Sep 09, 2025 City Council

[PRE-MEETING]

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>>> WELCOME, WELCOME PEER WE WILL START OUR WORK SESSION PEER WE WILL GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FIRST AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW WORK SESSION ITEMS AND THEN WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC STATEMENTS PICKED THE FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER 12, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE A CONTRACT OF A PURCHASE OF 218 UNITS TO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH FIVE. ANY QUESTIONS? MOVING ON TO NUMBER 13, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY AUDITOR TO PROVIDE CONTRACT FOR THE ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM UPGRADES TO THE CITY HALL HVAC SYSTEM FROM SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TIPS PURCHASING CORPORATIVE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $122,450. NUMBER 14, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON AMENDING ARTICLE 3, CHAPTER 30 , CITY COUNCIL, BY ADDING A NEW SECTION 30.02, TO BE ENTITLED PUBLIC MEETING RULES OF DECORUM, A NEW SECTION 30.3, TO BE ENTITLED CITIZEN PARTICIPATION DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND A NEW SECTION 30.04 TO BE ENTITLED FAILURE TO FOLLOW RULES OF THE CORE MORE DISRUPTION OF PUBLIC MEETING, TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. THIS IS YOUR PLATE. I THINK THERE WAS A MINOR TYPO. AS WE MAKE THE MOTION ON THIS FOR CONSENT, JUST PUT THIS ITEM AS STIPULATED. AS YOU RECALL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BRIEFLY DISCUSSED BUT WE HAVE RECENTLY CHANGED THERE OR ADOPTED A SIMILAR ORDINANCE AND THERE HAS BEEN A GROUP THAT GOES AROUND THE CITY TO CITY DOING PODCASTS AND CREATING A BIT OF A MOCKERY OF CITY COUNCILS SO THIS WOULD BE A VEHICLE TO ENSURE THAT IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, THERE IS A WARNING.

THE GROUP THAT DOES NOT DOES COUNCIL MEETING SKITS AND YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE SHENANIGANS. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NUMBER 15, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 31, COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, 2025.

>> CONSIDER RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF CARROLLTON APPROVING A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY STEERING COMMITTEE DIVISION REGARDING THE 2025 RATE REVIEW FILING, DECLARING EXISTING RATES TO BE UNREASONABLE, REFLECTING RATES CONSISTENT WITH THE NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT, FUNDING THE RATES ACCEPTED BY THE ATTACHED TO BE JUST AND REASONABLE DUE TO PUBLIC INTEREST, APPROVING ESTABLISHMENT OR ESTABLISHING THE PENSIONS AND RETIRING MEDICAL, REQUIRING ATLAS TO REIMBURSE , DETERMINE THAT THIS RESOLUTION WAS PASSED IN ACCORDANCE TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, ADOPTING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, TO PAIRING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND THE LEGAL COUNCIL AND PROVIDING

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A COUPLE. WHAT IS OUR

RM? -- RRM? >> RRM'S RENEWAL RATE

MECHANISM. >> IT IS NOT THE MEMBER ON THE BOARD. WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY, DEBORAH DAY WHO IS DOWN IN AUSTIN AND WE ARE ONE OF 23, 25 CITIES AND IT KEEPS OUR YEARLY EXPENDITURE PRETTY LOW BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF US TO NEGOTIATE ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE CITIES TO NEGOTIATED EVERY TIME THEY FOLLOW RATES AND IT SAVES THE CITY NOT ONLY IN LEGAL FEES BUT TO DO APPEARANCES DOWN.

>> HOW OFTEN DO THEY MAKE IT? >> THE PUBLIC UTILITIES

COMMISSION? >> ACTUALLY THE ACSC?

>> THEY MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

>> THAT WE DO MEETINGS LIKE THEM.

>> I SEE THAT OUR RESIDENTIAL RATE IS WHAT INCREASED FROM $7.83 ON A MONTHLY BASIS? AND THEN, I GUESS, COMMERCIAL WAS

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REDUCTION AS WELL. >> IT IS JUST A MANUAL CYCLE.

FIRST TO COME TO US AND WE DENY IT AND THEN IT GOES BACK.

>> FROM THE INCIDENT WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, A LOT OF NOT WAS IN -- THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE WAY THEY PLACED THE BURDEN.

>> NUMBER 17, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE REDEMPTION OF A PORTION OF THE OUTSTANDING CITY OF CARROLLTON , TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION IMPROVEMENT BONDS, SERIES 2014, AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED THERETO, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER, ANY

COMMENTS? >> NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS SAYS. WE ARE REDEEMING THOSE SO THEY ARE COMPLETELY PAID OFF.

>> IT IS A REDEMPTION. >> WE ARE NOT USING IT?

>> IT IS A SAVINGS, REGARDLESS. >> NUMBER 18, CONSIDER A DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSING MAJOR MODIFICATIONS DEVIATING FROM THE DOWNTOWN TRANSIT DISTRICT STANDARDS, ON A .658 ACRE LOT LOCATED AT 1430 SOUTH BROADWAY STREET. THIS IS HEARD BY APPEAL AND THEY HAVE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THERE. ANY QUESTIONS

ON THIS? >> IT BASICALLY DEALT WITH THE FRONT PATIO AND A LINE FROM THE OTHER.

>> THEN WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS. I'M GOING TO TAKE IN ORDER, 19:BY 22 FOLLOWED BY 23 AND THEN WE WILL MOVE IN -- AND 24 AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO NUMBER 20 AND 21.

>> JUST 22 AND 20 3R THAT HAVE SPECIAL WORDING. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> MRS. SCRIPTED SO 19 IS A SCRIPTED. 22 AND 23, JASON WILL MAKE THE MOTION AND AFTER THAT YOU ARE FREE TO MAKE ANY

MOTIONS. >> WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE IS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THOSE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, WE WILL

[WORKSESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

5E PHASE TWO. >> IN AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS EVENING, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ] TO GIVE A BRIEFING ON THE SAFETY PROJECT.

>> MY NAME IS MEETING WITH TRAVIS AND ALSO WITH TXDOT AND HE WILL BE THE ONE LEADING THE PRESENTATION TODAY.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME UPDATES. BEFORE GOING INTO THE DETAILS, I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH BASE ON THE PROJECT AND EVERYTHING. IT IS TO THE COUNTY LINE. 6.29 MILES OF CONTRACTING EXISTING GENERAL PURPOSE LANES TO A GENERAL PURPOSE LANES.

THE MIDDLE. CONSTRUCTION AT CAPACITY OF THE EXISTING LANES

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IS WHAT WE ARE BUILDING ON. >> I HAVE SOME PICTURES FROM LAST MONTH TO SHOW THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP SLIDE WE ARE CONSTRUCTING THE BRIDGES WITH THE I-35 P. WE ARE WORKING ON THOSE RIGHT NOW. ON THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE OPENING THE SOUTHBOUND LANES. ON THE SOUTHBOUND ITSELF, MAIN LANES. THIS IS WHERE IT JOINS THE ENTRANCE RAMP. THESE PICTURES IS WHERE WE ARE OPENING -- THIS IS FROM THE LAST MONTH BUT THIS WEEKEND, WE ARE WAITING FOR THE BRIDGE. THE BOTTOM PICTURE IS BUILT RIGHT NOW.

>> I CAN ASK A QUESTION? ONE OF THE PILES IS ALREADY OPERATIONAL. YOU ALL OPENED THAT UP?

>> THE SOUTHBOUND LANES ARE ALSO OPEN --

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS AT SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD. WE ARE ALMOST DONE WITH LEFT. I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME CONCEPTION LINES. WE ARE MOVING SOUTHBOUND CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED CAN OPEN UP TO CONSTRUCT. IF YOU SEE THE ORANGE LINE RIGHT NOW, THE EXISTING, THE REDLINE IS WITH THE EXISTING MAINE RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE MOVING TO THE BLUE LINE. THE REDLINE ALREADY WOULD BE OKAY AND UP. THIS WE ARE PLANNING TO DO END OF THIS MONTH. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO ALL OF THIS. NEXT, UPCOMING TRAFFIC WE ARE PLANNING ON THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS EVE, MOVING THE LANES THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT. THIS WILL BE BETWEEN YOU CAN SEE IT IS CURRENTLY WHERE THE LANES ARE AND THE BLUE LANE IS WHERE WE ARE LAYING THE PROPOSED LANES AND WE ARE PLANNING TO MOVE TO THE BLUE LINE AREA SO THAT THIS AREA WILL BE OPENED UP SO THAT WE CAN BUILD.

>> THIS IS BRIDGE WE ARE PLANNING TO DEMO IN JANUARY.

>> WHAT IS THE ENDCAP? >> A SUBSTRUCTURE ELEMENT, THE CONCRETE ELEMENT ON THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE. YOU HAVE A COLUMN AND THEN YOU HAVE A CALF AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BEAMS SET ON TOP OF THE CAP. IT IS A COMBINATION OF THE COLUMN ENDCAP AND THEN YOU

SET THE BEAMS ON THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS THE LUNA BRIDGE RECONSTRUCTION STATUS. IT WAS

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>> THAT LAST SLIDE, WE ARE PRETTY ECSTATIC ABOUT THAT SO

THANK YOU. >> FORGIVE ME, I DON'T THINK IT IS YOU BUT THE PARKING THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED UNDERNEATH, IS NOT SLATED FOR ANOTHER PLACE OR IS THAT --

>> THAT IS PART OF THE SCOPE ON THIS PROJECT. AS YOU CAN SEE WE STILL HAVE SOME OPERATIONS GOING WITH THE BELTLINE STRUCTURE.

ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED , WE WILL BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THAT AREA AND GET THE NEW PARKING CONFIGURATOR DID. OUR OVERFLOW PARKING THAT WE BUILT TWO YEARS AGO, THAT WILL STILL BE IN EFFECT. WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH FOLKS THAT ARE ORGANIZING YOUR NOVEMBER EVENT , LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO USE AND OBVIOUSLY, LIKE WE USUALLY DO, WE WILL GO AND CLEAN UP THE AREA AND TRY TO OPEN UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN BUT THE INTENT IS THAT ONCE WE ARE COMPLETE WITH THAT BRIDGE MINING, WE WILL BEGIN WORKING ON THAT.

>> THAT IS WONDERFUL TO HEAR AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY -- WE JUST DON'T WANT TO TEAR IT UP WHILE WE ARE STILL WORKING OVER THE TOP.

>> RIGHT. >> WE ARE ABOUT COMPLETE WITH

THAT. >> WE WON'T HOLD YOU TO IT BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR -- RIGHT NOW, OUR FORECAST FOR COMPLETION IS AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR. I WOULD CALL IT Q1 OF 2027. WE ARE GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE AND THEN WE HAVE FINAL ACTIVITIES THAT WILL CONTINUE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND AS FAR AS GETTING IN FINAL, IT WILL BE NEXT YEAR OF Q1.

>> SO, JUST THINKING TO NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. A LOT OF THAT WILL BE CLEARED. THE FINAL CONSTRUCT IS NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF

CONSTRUCTION. >> WHEN I SAY FINAL, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS, THESE ARE SIMPLY PUNCHLIST ITEMS WE ARE DOING . WE ARE PROBABLY DOING SOME PAINTING, MOST LIKELY CONTINUING TO WORK IN THE PARKING LOT AREA TO SOME EXTENT BUT BY THAT PERIOD OF TIME WE WILL BE IN THE FINAL CONFIGURATION WITH THE TRAFFIC. IT WILL BE FUNCTIONING IN THE NEW CONFIGURATION, SUCCESSFUL BY THE DIRECTION FROM EARLIER. ALL

OF THAT WILL BE OPENED UP. >> WONDERFUL.

>> YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF RELEASING WHAT YOU HAVE TO US.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE? WILL WE

LOSE SOME? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. THIS IS A VERY PHASED UP BUDGET. WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH AND MAKE TRAFFIC SWITCHES AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE TO ADVANCE NEW WORK.

YOU CAN SEE -- WE HAVE ALREADY SWITCHED THE MANAGED LANES NORTH OF BELTLINE BECAUSE WE WERE ADVANCING THAT AREA MUCH QUICKLY. WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE THE SWITCH. WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH THE SWITCH SOUTH OF BELTLINE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE ARE NOT GOING TO DELAY ANY PART OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES ON THE COMMERCE AND. WE WILL CONTINUE TO -- AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, AROUND THE HOLIDAYS, WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING THE NORTHBOUND ON THE NEW PAVEMENT NORTH OF BELTLINE WHICH WILL OPEN UP OUR FINAL PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION. IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ON THE EXISTING SANDY LAKE BRIDGE, IT WILL OPEN THE WHOLE AREA UP. IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT WE ARE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. IT IS. PROBABLY THREE TIMES AS WIDE.

>> ONCE WE DEMO THAT OUT IN JANUARY, ONCE WE DEMO AND DROP THAT, IT WILL OPEN THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION UP.

>> WERE YOU ALSO REFERRING TO THE REDUCTION IN SPACES FOR THE

PARKING SPOT? >> YES. AS WE BEGIN CONSTRUCTING THE FINAL CONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT, WE WILL BE

ELIMINATING SOME OF THE SPOTS. >> ISSUED AND CONTRIBUTE TO

OVERFLOW. >> WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT

OPEN. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I HEARD YOU ALL ARE LIKE SIX MONTHS BEHIND THE WHOLE SCHEDULE. IS

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THAT CORRECT? >> MORE LIKE A YEAR.

>> WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING? >> I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THIS IS FULL. THE DELAY GETTING UP THE FRONT, WHICH WE NEEDED TO BUILD -- THE WHOLE FACILITY GOT WIRED. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ACCELERATING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE RAMPED UP OUR FORCES SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST YEAR. OUR WORKFORCE HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE THAN IT WAS AT THIS TIME A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

WE ARE BRINGING ON ADDITIONAL CREWS, CONTRACTORS. I HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE OUR EFFORTS. WE PUT A FOCUS ON THAT ON HOW QUICKLY THAT CAN GO UP. IT WAS A LOT OF DECEPTION OF WHAT WAS TAKEN ON. IF WE TOOK ONE OF THOSE COLUMNS THAT WAS LOCATED ON THE EXISTING -- WE HAD TO BUILD THE NEW FRONTAGE ROAD TO GET TRAFFIC ON -- THEN FREE UP THAT CONFLICT TO GET THE LAST REMAINING STRUCTURE AND ONCE WE GOT THAT, WE WERE FLYING AND I WAS REALLY PROUD OF OUR TEAM'S EFFORTS TO GET THAT ACCELERATED

AND GET IT CLOSE. >> YES. AT LEAST WE HAVE

ACCELERATED OUR EFFORTS. >> RIGHT NOW, WE ARE WORKING IN

THE MIDDLE. >> THE CURRENT PHASES, INTERIOR.

WE ARE CONSTRAINED A BIT BY ACCESS. WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF TRUCKS IN AND OUT. THANKFULLY WE ARE ABLE TO LEAVE SOME OF THOSE STRUCTURES WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND GET THOSE OFF TO THE INTERIOR. YES, WE ARE SOMEWHAT IN A LITTLE BIT IN THIS MIDDLE SPACE BUT ONCE WE MAKE THAT FLIP TO THE END OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE PUT NORTHBOUND ON THE NEW PAYMENT, WE ARE ON THE EXTERIOR.

OUR ACCESS IS MUCH GREATER. THAT WILL HELP US EVEN FURTHER ACCELERATE. RIGHT NOW, IT IS HARD TO FIND A PLACE.

>> MAYOR, WHAT I WILL SAY IS WE ARE VERY EXCITED. WE ARE GOING TO END UP WITH AN ALL NEW FACILITY. SOME OF THE PAVEMENT OUT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS IT HAS BEEN AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE DESIGN WITH ROAD LANES AND DESIGN CALCULATED ON RAMPS AND EXIT RAMPS AND IT IS GOING TO BE

GOOD WHEN IT IS DONE. >> YOU ALL WERE DUE.

>> WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OUT AND BRIEFING US AND WE WILL HAVE YOU OUT IN NINE MONTHS OR WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. AGAIN,

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> ONE MORE QUESTION.

>> I NOTICE THAT ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, YOU MENTIONED THE PLANS FOR DRAINAGE AND I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING ON THE PICTURES. IS THERE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION ON THE DRAINAGE, SPECIFICALLY ON THE SOUTHBOUND LANES IN THE ON RAMPS TO THAT BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE IN THAT LITTLE AREA? IT IS A PRONE AREA.

>> ALL OF OUR DRAINS ARE PRETTY STANDARD. ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE, IT IS REALLY HARD TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE

IMPROVEMENT. >> IT IS HOW THE WHOLE CROSSING WAS INSTALLED. UNTIL WE GET THE FUNCTIONING SYSTEM INSTALLED, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THE BENEFITS OF IT BUT ALL OF IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO THE LATEST STANDARD.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> IT IS OPERATING ON THE

EXISTING TEMPORARY PLACE. >> THANK YOU ALL.

>> APPRECIATE YOU ALL. COUNCIL, NEXT ITEM IS A BRIEFING ON LOWER

DEADLY BRANCH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. TONIGHT WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE RESULTS FROM THE LOWER DUDLEY BRANCH

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TONIGHT, WE HAVE SOME RESULTS FROM THIS STUDY. WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS FROM YOU. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE FIRE STATION SIX WILL BE LOCATED. JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS FOR THE LOWER DUDLEY BRANCH STUDY.

INAUDIBLE ] FIRST WE GO OVER THE PROBLEM AREA AND THEN RECOMMENDATION. STARTING OFF WITH THE ROAD, IT IS A STUDY AREA. THIS IS A MAP OF THE AREA. THE STUDY AREA THERE. YOU CAN SEE IT IS A FLOODPLAIN. SO MUCH OF THE AREA IS IMPACTED.

>> THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE ARE FACING. OUR OFFICE PREPARED A HYDRAULIC MODEL OF THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE IT'S HOLDING YELLOW ALONG FRANKFORD ROAD. HERE IS A CONTINUATION OF A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT.

>> IN PLACE OF THE FIRE STATION BECAUSE ON THE MAP IT SHOWS THAT

IN THE PLANES. >> YOU CAN SEE THE ALCOR EASEMENTS RIGHT ON THE BACK. ONE OF OUR SUPPORTING MODELS IS HIGHER AND DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE

>> WE LOOKED AT NUMEROUS OPTIONS FOR THIS PROJECT AREA AND WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR RECOMMENDED PROJECT'S.

WE HAVE A TRACK NEXT TO THE PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 25 YEARS IT WILL

>> YES. >> SO, I STILL SEE BLUE ON FRANKFORD. DOES THAT MEAN THERE IS STILL WATER THERE? I AM NOT AN ENGINEER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY I AM LOOKING AT.

>> SO , TO THE EAST OF IT -- THE ROAD WILL STILL BE INUNDATED.

>> OKAY. HOW IS THAT HANDLED? IS THAT HANDLED WITH OUR STORMWATER

DRAINAGE SYSTEM? >> AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS AREA WAS ON THE PREVIOUS BOND. NOW WE HAVE THE STIPULATIONS. SOME OF THE FUNDING HAD TO BE REALLOCATED. BUT, THERE IS STILL FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT WORK. THIS MAY REQUIRE INAUDIBLE ] TO THE AREA TO HELP IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE. HOWEVER, IT DOES LIMITED TO THE EAST AND WEST. THERE IS SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THESE INITIAL PROJECT'S.

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>> OKAY. >> IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT IS

STILL FLOODING. >> THE 25 YEAR EVENT IS PRETTY

COMMON, UNFORTUNATELY. >> SIMILARLY, FOR THE 100 YEAR, IT WOULD REACH THAT AREA. SO, THE SECOND PROJECT WE LOOKED AT IS WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE FLOOD WALLS. WE HAVE THE YELLOW AREA.

THEN WE HAVE THE OVERFLOW OF THE ROAD THROUGH THAT AREA.

CURRENTLY, THE TOP ROAD THERE WOULD STILL GET IT ENTIRELY.

>> BE RECONSTRUCTING THE ROAD, YOU COULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM

ALSO? >> AGAIN, THIS IS THE

INAUDIBLE ] . >> THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE.

>> WHEN IT REALLY FLOODED WAS IN 2015 WHEN IT WAS IN DANGER OF FAILING AND THEY WERE DISCHARGING ALL OF THE WATER THEY COULD. THAT IS NOT REALLY SOMETHING.

>> JUST SO I CAN REFERENCE MYSELF, THAT IS WHERE THE FIRE

STATION WOULD BE? >> IN SUMMARY, WE LOOKED AT, WE HAVE A FLOOD WALL . THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST IS ABOUT ONE AND 1 MILLION AND THE FLOOD WALL IS ABOUT 359,000.

>> SO, IN TERMS OF THE DOLLARS AND IT IS EITHER REPROVING DOLLARS OR FUTURE BOND? WHAT IS THE PLAN TO COVER THAT?

>> IT IS THE EXISTING DOLLARS. WE DO HAVE FUNDING TO BAIL THEM OUT. OR, IF WE DECIDE TO REALLOCATE FOR A DIFFERENT DRAINAGE PROJECT, WE COULD DO THAT AND WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AT A LATER DATE. THEN, WE HAVE 2.5 MILLION FOR FLOODING

CONCERNS AS WELL. >> HOW MUCH WOULD A REBUILDING

INAUDIBLE ] COST US? >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WITH DESIGN ENGINEERS. WE WOULD SEE HOW MUCH

INCREASE THERE WOULD BE. >> ARE YOU TALKING INCREASE IN

DOLLARS? >> PROBABLY INCREASE IN DOLLARS.

I GUESS I HAD TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION MORE ABOUT THE MITIGATION. BY REBUILDING THE ROADS, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE

MORE. CAN YOU MITIGATE THAT? >> THAT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

>> I WOULD PREFER ACCELERATING THE SCHEDULE RATHER THAN DOING THESE PROJECTS THAT AREN'T AS HELPFUL.

>> MY MAIN CONCERN WOULD BE MAKING SURE THE FIRE STATION AS AN EMERGENCY FACILITY STAYS HIGH AND DRY. THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. I DON'T THINK IT WILL NECESSARILY PROTECT IT.

>> YOU MIGHT DISAGREE BUT EACH OF THESE, I THINK, SHOW FIRE STATIONS

>> THAT WE CAN'T MODEL BEYOND --

>> THE FEMA MAP SHOWS IT IN THE FLOODWAY.

>> FEMA IS IN THE PROCESS OF SUPPORT. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.

>> THE MAIN THING IS THAT IT RAISES.

>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE ROAD BERM AND THE FLOOD WALL DOES NOT ENCUMBER AND FEED THE FRANKFORD ROAD PROJECT? IT WILL

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FIT TOGETHER? >> NOTHING OF THE FRANKFORD ROAD

PROJECT. >> I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS, CAN YOU MITIGATE THE FLOOD WALL, CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THE DESIGN? SINCE THE FLOODWATER IS AN OPTION --

>> THAT DOES NOT HELP AT ALL ON THE WEST SIDE.

>> ARE YOU DONE? >> YES.

>> MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE FLOODPLAIN STUDY. IS THIS JUST ONE OF THE MANY PROJECTS WE HAD FOR FLOOD MITIGATION? WHERE DOES THIS FALL ON YOUR PRIORITIES

LIST? >> THIS IS AN OLD PROJECT.

ORIGINALLY IT ENCOMPASSED MOVING IT BASED ON OLDER STUDIES. WE LOOK AT IT THEN IT CAN HELP ANY OF THE FLOODING OR MITIGATING OF THE FLOODING. WE ARE JUST STARTING. EARLIER, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE LOOKED AT. MAYBE THEY CAN PROTECT YOU AGAINST THE FIVE-YEAR BLOOD AND IT COSTS $5 MILLION. THESE ARE THE TWO THAT GIVE YOU SOME LEVEL OF SERVICE

>> WE HAVE MULTIPLE ITEMS. WE HAVE SEPARATE PROJECTS. WITH THE FEMA STUDY GOING ON, WE ALSO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE LOW DRAINAGE DIFFERENT FLOOD ITEMS IN PROGRESS.

>> AND IT IS ALWAYS PRIORITY --

>> THIS ONE IS HIGHER ON OUR LIST BECAUSE OF THE 2013 PROJECT BUT WE WANTED TO GET IT DONE. THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN BE IMPACTED. IT BECAME A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US.

>> THE 2013 BOND HAD $13 MILLION? RECENTLY, THEY WANTED TO FILL IT IN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 100 PERCENT. CAN'T WE JUST DREDGE IT LIKE THEY DID THE POND BY JASON'S HOUSE AND IT IS NO PROBLEM. IT IS NOT CAUSING THE PROBLEM. INSTEAD, NOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME PLACE WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY

INSTEAD OF REMOVING THE STILT. >> THE OBSERVATIONS ON THIS ARE

HANDLED QUICKLY. >> WE HAVE FRUITS OF

COUNCILMEMBER ABBOTT. >> THESE ARE PROJECTS OF THE

ENGINEERING FIRM. >> THAT COMBINED WITH THE BOMB -- BOND DOLLARS. -- LET ME DIFFER THIS ALTOGETHER.

>> UNLESS THE FIRE STATION

>> STATIONS -- SEE --

WALL? >> OKAY.

>> EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT ON THE FLOODPLAIN, IT COULD IMPEDE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS GETTING SOMEWHERE IF THE ROAD COULD BE

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COVERED? >> IT IS A FOOT.

>> THE TOP AT THE FAR RIGHT, THIS WALL BASICALLY TAKES THE WATER OFF. GOING EASTBOUND, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS.

>> WE WERE FINDING ON THE UPPER ROW.

>> DID YOU TIE ANY OF IT? >> WHAT I FOUND IN 2016 WHEN IT FIRST FLOODED WAS IT WAS

>> I GUESS YOU REMODELED IT WITH THE WALL. IT GOES IN.

>> THE WATER GOES IN.

>> IT IS REMODELED WITH A WALL AND THE FIRE STATION REMAINS

INAUDIBLE ]. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO, THE SECOND PART OF THIS STUDY WAS THE HERE IS A LOCATION MAP. EISENHOWER STREET IS LOCATED JUST DOWNSTREAM OF THE FLOODPLAIN. HERE IS THE FEMA MAP SHOWING A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, FOR OUR STUDY WE NEEDED THE PREVIOUS MODEL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE EXISTING CROSSING. SO, HERE IS WHAT OUR MODEL IS SHOWING TO THREE FEET OF FLOODING

>> THIS IS ANOTHER VERSION OF THE 100 YEAR FLOOD. THIS ONE IS

RECORDED ANIMATION. >> IT IS NOT ONE OF THE

INAUDIBLE ] . >> YET, THAT IS A LOT OF

CLEANUP. >> FOR OUR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, WE EVALUATED THE CROSSOVER FOR A SINGLE SPAN BRIDGE. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE COMPARISON, JUST UPSTREAM, INAUDIBLE ]. YOU ARE LOOKING AT A REDUCTION UPSTREAM. THIS IS ALSO RESULTING IN A REDUCTION OF BACK. SO, HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CONDITION. HERE, THERE IS A BLUE OUTLINE THAT IS EXISTING AND THIS IS PROPOSED.

IT WILL BE REDUCING THE EXTENT OF INUNDATION AS WELL.

>> THIS IS THE 100 YEAR EVENT? >> YES, THIS IS FOR THE 100 YEAR EVENT. HERE, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE BENEFITS YOU ARE GETTING. A FURTHER REDUCTION FOR THOSE EVENTS. IN THE FIVE-YEAR,

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>> WHERE DOES THAT STAND FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE?

>> THAT ONE IS CURRENTLY NOT FUNDED. HOWEVER, IT MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE FUTURE PROJECTS WE TAKE INTO THE PLANNING PROGRAMS. SO, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PLAN FOR IN THE NOT SUPERLONG PICTURE.

>> AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW OBVIOUSLY WHAT BOND WE WILL GET BUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS NOT INCLUDED.

>> DOES THE COUNTY BOND DOLLAR HAVE ANY IMPLICATION ON THIS AT

ALL? >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE VISUALS TO SHOW US WHERE EXACTLY THE BRIDGE WOULD BE? THIS GRAY

AREA? >>

CULVERTS RIGHT NOW. >> IS THE THINKING THAT THE SAND BRIDGE DOESN'T HAVE THE SQUARES TO BE BLOCKED?

>> WE LOOKED AT TWO CHANNELS. HERE, YOU WOULD HAVE -- PRODUCE

SIMILAR RESULTS. >> I WOULD REQUEST THAT INSTEAD OF THE BERM AND THE OTHER ITEMS, THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THE POND WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OF IMPROVING THE POND WITH THE

$3 MILLION FROM 2013. >> DOES NOT GIVE IT MORE

CAPACITY IF WE DO THAT? >> IT HAS TURNED INTO A MARSH INSTEAD OF A POND THAT WAS 20 FEET DEEP. IT GOES UP AND DOES THE TRASH'S AND IT IS AN EYESORE AND IT IS SOMETHING THE

FIRE STATION WOULD BACK UP TO. >> MAYBE WE CAN BRING A FUTURE WORK SESSION BACK TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES. WHAT YOU ARE PRESENTING HERE DOES NOT SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD READ DREDGE THE

POND. >> WAS NOT EVEN AN OPTION?

>> THE DREDGING OF THE POND IS NOT SOMETHING WE LOOK AT. WE HAD TO HIRE A DIFFERENT FIRM TO SHOW YOU THAT AND THEY FOUND THAT IT DOESN'T -- YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO GET APPROVAL BUT WHAT THEY FOUND IS WHEN YOU SEE THE DEPTH OF THE POND ON THE SURFACE ELEVATION WOULD REMAIN THE SAME BUT POND SHOULD THEN BE APPLIED TO BE MORE

DRAINAGE BASED UPON -- >> WHAT WERE THE 2013 ? WAS IT

DRAINAGE? >> DRAINAGE.

>> SO IT NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE?

>> YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> I THINK IT IS A FAIR FUTURE REQUEST TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP BRIEFING. WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT MORE OF BEING A BOND ISSUANCE

SUBJECT TO FUTURE COUNCIL. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT CONSIDERING THE FIRST TWO ITEMS AND ACCELERATING FRANKFORD

DESIGNS. >> FRANKFORD ROAD IS ALMOST READY. IT IS STARTING AT THE INTERSECTION ALREADY.

>> YES, THERE IS A CURRENT DESIGN EASTERNMOST PORTIONS. MAY BE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY THAN THE IMMEDIATE AREA BUT THAT ALSO IS TO ADDRESS --

>> IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE COMPARISON WITH WHAT HAS

BEEN PROPOSED HERE. >> THE KIND OF WATER AND FLOODING YOU HAVE ON SITE FOR THE ROAD IS LIKE A SEWER BACKING UP IN YOUR HOUSE. IT IS KIND OF GROSS BUT IT IS NOT

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FROM THERE. >> IF I AM HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THE EISENHOWER CONSTRUCTION OVER THE FRANKFORD ROAD CONSTRUCTION?

>> RIGHT. THE OTHER TWO THINGS YOU COULD SOLVE BY BUILDING FRANKFORD HIGHER EXCEPT AT THE RAILROAD TRACK. THAT WOULDN'T FIX IT ANYWAY. THE RAILROAD TRACK, THEY HAVE BEEN HERE 120

YEARS. IT IS STILL UNDERWATER. >> A FLOOD BETWEEN HERE AND DENTIN WHICH IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION. HOW DOES THAT IMPACT

-- THAT ONE. >> YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE DENTON COUNTY --

SPEAKERS ] >> THAT IS PART OF THE BOND

PACKAGE. >> CORRECT.

>> THAT IS RIGHT. >> THEY DO PAY-AS-YOU-GO ONLY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHERWISE, WE WILL WRAP UP AND

MOVE ON TO BUDGET. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL, OUR LAST ITEM BEFORE GOING INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING IS ITEM NUMBER 4, FISCAL YEAR 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET.

>> THAT EVENING, HAS BEEN A REALLY LONG PROCESS. WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS GO OVER WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN ADOPT TONIGHT AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO, THIS IS THE LONG ROADMAP THAT WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS YEAR. WE STARTED BACK IN MARCH WITH A MULTIYEAR BUDGET CONSIDERATION AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AND WE STARTED DEVELOPING THE REQUEST, THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND THEN THE FINANCE GROUPS STARTED DEVELOPING THE BUDGET. IN JUNE, WE INCREASED THE OPTIONS FOR 97,000 TO 110. IN JUNE, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM REVIEWED ADDITIONAL PARTS OF THE BUDGET AND STARTED PROVIDING AND COMING TOGETHER WITH WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PRESENTED IN JULY. YOU RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS DELIVERED THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO YOU ON JULY 31 . IN AUGUST, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE WORK SESSIONS AND THEN TONIGHT WE ARE ADOPTING. THIS BUDGET WILL BE EFFECTIVE ON OCTOBER 1 OF 2025. THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS 5.750 AFTER A TAX RATE CUT.

THE ASSESSED VALUATION IS $23.6 BILLION AND WE ARE CUTTING THE BUDGET FOR THE 12TH YEAR IN A ROW. THIS IS THE FOURTH YEAR WE HAVE INCREASED OUR YEARS, WE HAVE INCREASED THAT BY 37.5% AND THEN WE ARE SAVING $73 THIS YEAR WITH THAT INCREASE. THE TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE YEAR IS $325.9 MILLION AND THAT INCLUDES ALL CITY OPERATIONS, NOT JUST THE GENERAL FUND. IT IS EVERYTHING. WATER, FLEET REPLACEMENT. THE GENERAL FUND ITSELF IS $144.9 MILLION.

THAT IS FOR RESIDUAL GOVERNMENT USED AND NOT FOR THAT IS CAPPED AT 3.5% OF THE TOTAL CAPITAL BUDGET IS $133

MILLION. >> CAN ASK A REAL QUICK

QUESTION? >> OF COURSE.

>> I CAN ASK THIS AND YOU CAN GIVE ME THE ANSWER BUT THE PROPOSED TAX CUT FOR THIS YEAR -- IT IS ALSO MEASURED BY PERCENTAGE. WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE?

>> IS IT A QUARTER OR AN EIGHTH?

>> AN EIGHTH OF A PERCENT, CORRECT?

>> YES. >> IS THAT RELATIVE TO INFLATION OR IS THAT A REAL YEAR ON YEAR CUT?

>> IT IS A CUT FROM THE ACTUAL TAX RATE BUT MY HOME VALUE WENT DOWN SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO VALUE IT UP --

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>> I AM DISCOUNTING THAT. JUST AT THE RATE ITSELF HAS BEEN CUT

BY .8%, CORRECT? >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> IT IS A REAL CUT. >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS, FOR THE TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE YEAR ON YEAR INCREASE WITH THAT FINAL NUMBER AND IF THERE IS, WHAT IS THAT

INCREASE? >> SHE IS GOING TO COVER THAT. I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE GOING. LET HER SUMMARIZE THE

POINT. >> IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET TO

THAT LATER, GREAT. >> SO, THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET -- SORRY. OKAY. THESE ARE JUST THE THINGS THAT WERE PROGRAMMED THIS YEAR IN THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET. WE HAVE DIGITAL UPDATES AND EQUIPMENT WITH ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. IT INCLUDED A 2.26 RATE FALL FOR COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR I.T. ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL AND WE ALSO DID A ONE TIME PAYMENT OF 1.25 PERCENT. WE PROVIDED A NEW ASPHALT TRUCK AND TRAILER FOR INCREASED RESPONSE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE PROVIDED ENHANCED SERVICES FOR PARK AND RECREATION, STAFFING THAT WAS PROVIDED. THEN, ALSO FUNDING SUPPORT.

>> ON THE TRANSPARENCY IN THE RECORD, METRO PRESS SERVICES REPRESENT 629,000 AND THEN CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER REPRESENTS $100,491. WITH THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, THAT IS CONSISTENT

INAUDIBLE ]. >> FOR CAPITAL BUDGET, WE CONTINUE TO SET AT $3.5 MILLION FOR THE LOCALIZED DRAINAGE PROJECTS. WE HAVE THE STREET LIGHT INFILL AND THE ]. WE INCREASED THAT BY $1 MILLION THIS YEAR . SOME SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT AT DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND ALSO COMPLETION OF THE DOWNTOWN SILO.

>> SO, THE 2026 BUDGET IS COMPLETE ON OCTOBER 1 ON THE MODERATE UPDATES WILL COME IN NOVEMBER. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE OVERALL INCREASE FOR THE GENERAL FUND WAS ABOUT 5%. OVERALL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY WAS 7.85. A LOT OF THAT WAS DRIVEN BY INCREASES IN THE WATER AND WE DO HAVE A RATHER LARGE INCREASE ON REPLACEMENT THIS YEAR AND IT IS DUE TO

INAUDIBLE ] COMING IN. >> I DON'T WANT TO GET LOST ON THIS. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE RATE THAT MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG IS ASKING ABOUT, 3.5% IS OUR

WE ARE AT 5% RELATIVE? >> NO. THAT IS JUST THE GENERAL

FUND OPERATION. >> THE GENERAL FUND WAS 5% IN THE SECOND NUMBER YOU SAID -- SEE THE ENTIRE OPERATION WAS SEVEN. IT INCLUDES

>> STRATEGIC OPERATIONAL CHANGES OR EFFICIENCY WITH THE MANAGED COMPETITION REVIEW AND WE ARE BENCHMARKING SERVICES TO ENSURE WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT COSTS TO DO BUSINESS AND THOSE WILL BE THINGS THAT COME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, TO YOU GUYS. I DID WANT TO GIVE A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE BECAUSE I GAVE ONE AT THE LAST MEETING AND SINCE THEN A LOT HAS HAPPENED, THE LEGISLATURE ENDED SPECIAL SESSION AND THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE CAP TO REDUCE TO 2.5%.

THE HOUSE WHENEVER THAT WENT TO THE HOUSE THE HOUSE KICKED IT BACK AND REDUCED IT TO 1% WITH A POTENTIAL EXCEPTION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WENT BACK TO THE SENATE WHO REFUSED TO THAT AND THE BILL DIED WHEN IT WENT TO THE HOUSE. WE EXPECT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE SOME THING THAT COMES UP IN FUTURE YEARS SWEAR

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>> CAN WE GET THE SLIDE? >> WE WILL PROVIDE TO YOU.

>> YOU GUYS HAD $1.6 MILLION TO PROGRAM ON A RECURRING BASIS.

WITH THE DECISION YOU MADE TO ADD NEW POLICE OFFICERS, INCREASE THE RAISE WITH PROPERTY TAX CUTS YOU WOULD ABOUT 400,000 HAD THE 2.5% CAP BEEN PUT INTO PLACE.

>> A LOT OF NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AGAIN WHICH THE DIRECTIVE OF THE LEGISLATURE IS TO DO NO NEW REVENUE RATE WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE MEANS NO INFLATION SO NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS SIMPLY PRIOR

VALUATION ON THE SAME PROPERTY. >> IT IS PRODUCING THE SAME

REVENUE YEAR AFTER YEAR. >> NO NEW REVENUE BY NATURE IS 0% INFLATION ON THEN-CURRENT PROPERTY. THE 3.5% IS OUR CURRENT THRESHOLD THAT WE CAN GO UP TO WITHOUT TRIGGERING. YEAR AFTER YEAR THE PROPERTY RATES HAVE BROUGHT THE RATE DOWN OF THAT 3.5 WE LANDED AT 3.3 SOMETHING AND CHANGE SO THAT WAS PART OF THE TAX RATE CUT. IF THE SENATE BILL WITH THE HOUSE BILL DID COME ACROSS ONE PERSON WITH PUBLIC SAFETY EXCEPTION THAT'S HOW IT WENT BACK TO THE SENATE OF THE 1.6 WE HAD TO PROGRAM WE WOULD'VE BEEN SHORT 5 MILLION. IF THE 2.5% CAP THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED BY THE SENATE INCLUDED PUBLIC SAFETY THAN THAT WOULD'VE REDUCED OUR FUNDS AVAILABLE BY 1.2 SO WE WOULD'VE BEEN FINE PROGRAMMING 1.6 AND WE WOULD'VE HAD TO PULL SOME THINGS OUT BUT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ON THE BOTTOM POINT IF YOU READ ON THIS CHART RIGHT HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AD VALOREM TAX UNDER THE REVENUE , THIS PIE CHART. YOU'VE GOT AD VALOREM TAXES OF 77.1 MILLION .

THAT IS HOW MUCH CITIZENS, RESIDENTS PAIN PROPERTY TAX AND COMMERCIAL RESIDENTS SO $77.1 MILLION. EXPENDITURE ON PUBLIC SAFETY IS 94 MILLION SO 100% AND THEN SOME OF OUR, 100% OF POVERTY TAX FUND, PUBLIC SAFETY CARVEOUT BY LAW FOR DEBT SERVICE. WE PAY THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE BALANCES FUNDING PUBLIC SAFETY BUT BECAUSE WE ARE COLLECTING 77 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX AND WE ARE SPENDING $94 MILLION IN PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU ALL SHOULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS ABOUT IT, 100% OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE FUNDING PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S NOT FUNDING A SILO OR REC CENTER, IT'S NOT FUNDING THE GOLF COURSE, IT IS FUNDING PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO FROM FISCAL YEAR 2023- 2024, THE GENERAL FUND WAS I THINK 40 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 25 -26 GOES DOWN TO 35 MILLION.

>> CAN ASK? >> WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? IT IS ON AGENDA ITEM 22 WHERE WE HAD YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO WAIT AND ANSWER THAT.

>> IF I CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS I CAN TRY TO EXPLAIN.

>> THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THIS CHEAT SHEET , THIS DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER

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>> DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND. >> WOULD THIS BE MADE NOVEMBER?

>> FOR THE BUDGET? >> IF YOU HAD TO CALL IT IT

WOULD BE IN NOVEMBER. >> THE REAL PROBLEM WOULD BE PEOPLE WOULD'VE ALREADY STARTED, HAVE THE BUDGET BASED ON THE HIGHER NUMBER , PEOPLE WOULD'VE STARTED MAKING PAYMENTS ON THE HIGHER NUMBER, THEN YOU HAVE THE ELECTION PASSES AND EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS YOU HAVE TO REFUND THE MONEY AND ALL OF THAT CAN AFFECT THE BUDGET. SO WE ADVISE NOT GOING ABOVE. WHATEVER IT IS.

>> I AM REALLY THANKFUL FOR OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE AND TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND ALWAYS MAKING US LOOK GOOD, MAKING GREAT DECISIONS FOR THE CITY AND BEING CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR. ONE THING I DID WANT TO KNOW IS THE 46.7 IS THE 46.7 MILLION IN SALES TAX AND YOU MENTIONED HALF OF THE PENNY IS GOING TO START

>> ANOTHER PENNY OF THAT MAGNITUDE.

>> WE GET A PENNY THEY GET A PENNY.

>> IF WE GOT ONE PENNY AND ONE QUARTER THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN

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EXTRA FORCE OF THAT. >> OKAY, WHEN DO WE KNOW THE

DECIDING FACTORS? >> NOTHING FOR THE BUDGET TODAY, WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOW-UP BRIEFING WITH DART, ALL MEMBER CITY FOR INFORMATION SHARING PUBLISHER THAT IN A MEETING AT THE TEXAS COMMISSION , THIS LAST WEEK AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ALL MEMBERS WERE NODDING THEIR HEADS THAT SOMETHING IS BROKEN HERE.

DALLAS, DALLAS IS COMMITTED TO HELP FIX, THE CITY MANAGER OF DALLAS. FOR THE FIRST TIME I AM SENSING WE WILL HAVE SOME REFORM

ON THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

>> THAT WE WILL COME BACK AFTER OUR MEETING TO COVER THE BALANCE OF WORK SESSION ITEMS AND EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS BUT WE'RE GOING TO START AT FIVE AFTER. IF YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF

>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR SEPTEMBER 9 CITY OF CARROLLTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AS WE ALWAYS DO WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION LED BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT WE WILL START WITH A BRIEF TRIBUTE IN MEMORIAL OF 9/11 TRIBUTE, IF YOU WILL PLEASE RISE.

>> WHAT IS A HERO? EVERY PERSON IS FACED WITH A MOMENT IN THEIR LIFE WHERE THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE TO RUN FROM ADVERSITY OR STAND IN ITS PATH AND FACE IT HEAD ON, THAT QUESTION COULD NOT BE MORE CLEAR THAN 9/11 WHEN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WERE MET WITH AN IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE. TO RUN INTO BURNING BUILDINGS WHEN EVERYONE ELSE WAS RUNNING AWAY AND FOR THEM IT WAS NOT A TORTS, THAT MOMENT CAME AND WITHOUT QUESTION WITHOUT A MOMENTS HESITATION, THEY RAN TOWARD THE FIRE, TOWARD THE DANGER. TOWARD SACRIFICE.

2977 LIVES WERE TAKEN THAT DAY. 413 OF WHICH WERE FIRST RESPONDERS, 343 WERE FIREFIGHTERS. WE HONOR YOU, 60 WERE POLICE OFFICERS, WE HONOR YOU. EIGHT WERE EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS, WE HONOR YOU. AND, THE REST, 2564 WERE MOTHERS, FATHERS, DAUGHTERS, SONS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS. IN A DAY OF TRAGEDY WE SAW MORE CLEAR THAN EVER WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A HERO AND WE WILL NEVER FORGET. GOD BLESS THEIR SACRIFICE AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.

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>> LET'S BOW OUR HEADS. ALMIGHTY GOD AND FATHER WE ARE GRATEFUL TO YOU TODAY FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US GATHERED HERE, FOR BLESSING OUR CITY, ITS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES I HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THIS COUNCIL AND YOUR HAND BE UPON OUR CONVERSATIONS AND ANY DECISIONS WE MAY MAKE TODAY, WE PRAY SPECIAL BLESSING OVER ALL MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND ALL FIRST RESPONDERS AND FOR THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE SEPTEMBER 11 REMEMBRANCE DAY WEEKEND WE ASK THIS IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD , ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. OKAY COUNCIL WE

[PRESENTATIONS]

[01:15:10]

>> ISN'T STRUDEL CUTE? ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY COUNCIL BEHIND ME AND WE REFLECT ON ALL THE SERVICE DOGS DO YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE WE ARE HONORED TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK THEY DO. SO ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNCIL WHEREAS SERVICE DOGS PROVIDE ESSENTIAL ASSISTANCE, INDEPENDENCE AND LIFE-CHANGING SUPPORT TO INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, ENABLING THEM TO LIVE MORE FULFILLING AND SELF-SUFFICIENT LIVES WHEREAS CANINE COMPANIONS FOUNDED IN 1975 PIONEERED THE MODERN CONCEPT OF THE SERVICE DOG AND FOR 50 YEARS HAS REMAINED A NATIONAL LEADER IN PROVIDING EXPERTLY TRAINED SERVICE DOGS AT NO COST TO CLIENTS. THEREBY ENHANCING THE LIVES OF ADULTS AND CHILDREN AND VETERANS WITH DISABILITIES, WHEREAS MORE THAN 70 MILLION AMERICAN ADULTS HAVE DISABILITIES YET THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 16,000 SERVICE DOGS FROM ACCREDITED PROGRAMS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES HIGHLIGHTING THE CRITICAL NEED FOR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CANINE COMPANIONS. WHEREAS SINCE ITS INCEPTION THE CANINE COMPANION HAS PLACED MORE THAN 8200 SERVICE AND FACILITY DOG TEAMS AND CURRENTLY SUPPORTS OVER 2800 ACTIVE TEAMS NATIONWIDE SERVING INDIVIDUALS WITH MORE THAN 65 DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISABILITIES. WHEREAS THESE HIGHLY TRAINED DOGS AND SERVICES PROVIDED BY CANINE COMPANIONS IN POWER GREATER INDEPENDENCE AND IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THEIR PARTNERS WHILE FOLLOW-UP SUPPORT IS PROVIDED FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE TEAM ALL AT NO COST TO THE RECIPIENT, NOW THEREFORE I STEVE MAYOR BABICK DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH.

THANK YOU, STRUDEL.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO HOLD STRUDEL?

>> STRUDEL IS 12 WEEKS OLD A LAB GOLDEN CROSS. MY NAME IS , I AM THE LONE STAR CHAPTER LEADER HERE, WE ARE THE LARGEST SERVICE DOG ORGANIZATION NONPROFIT IN THE COUNTRY PROVIDING SERVICE DOGS TO ADULTS AND CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES AS WELL AS FACILITY DOGS TO INDIVIDUALS IN PROFESSIONAL SETTINGS. WE ARE PART OF THE SOUTH-CENTRAL REGION WHICH IS OKLAHOMA, ARKANSAS AND LOUISIANA. OUR TRAINING CENTER IS LOCATED IN IRVING, TEXAS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 60 DOGS OVER 18 MONTHS OLD ON CAMPUS LEARNING HOW TO BE A SERVICE DOG , INCLUDING WHEN I JUST TURNED IN A MONTH AGO, MY THIRD DOG, STRUDEL IS MY FOURTH. AND WITHIN OUR REGION WE HAVE 130 FUTURE SERVICE DOGS THAT ARE BEING SOCIALIZED TODD OBEDIENCE, GOOD MANNERS AND THAT GETS US TO PROFESSIONAL TRAINING WHEN THEY ARE 18 MONTHS. SHE IS MY FOURTH DOG , SHE GOES TO WORK WITH ME EVERY SINGLE DAY, SHE WAS RAISED IN OUR TOWNHALL SO SHE GETS A JUMP ON SOCIALIZATION FROM THIS EARLY AGE, I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. I GREW UP IN CARROLLTON SO TONIGHT IS SPECIAL. I WENT TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL, GRADUATED FROM NEWMAN SMITH IN THE 90S. NOT GOING TO PIN A YEAR ON THAT BUT I WILL GIVE YOU THE DECADE. SUCH A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE IN THE TOWN THAT GAVE ME MY FOUNDATION AND EDUCATION TO GO ON AND BECOME THE PERSON I AM SO THANK YOU ON

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BEHALF OF CANINE COMPANIONS. >> I INTRODUCED YOU, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> OKAY MY NEXT PRESENTATION IS A PROCLAMATION DECLARING SEPTEMBER AS LIBRARY CARD TO SIGN UP MONTH IF I CAN HAVE DIRECTOR JONATHAN HSU AND HIS TEAM JOIN ME. I AM GOING, WHILE THEY ARE JOINING ME I WILL READ A FEW STATS SHARED FROM OUR CITY MANAGER EACH QUARTER WE GET STATS IN TERMS OF THE KEY KPIS.

81,399 CHECK OUT FROM JOSIE RANCH LIBRARY IN THE SECOND QUARTER, 11,002 AND 35 LIBRARY PROGRAM PARTICIPANT WALKING THROUGH THOSE DOORS. 140 TOTAL LIBRARY PROGRAMS OFFERED TO THOSE RESIDENTS THAT COME TO. IF YOU'RE NOT A LIBRARY CARD MEMBER IT'S EASY. JOIN ON THE KEY FOB AND THERE'S A BARCODE SO I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER JOINING. FOR OUR LIBRARY STAFF WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO AND BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL I WILL READ THIS PROCLAMATION WHEREAS LIBRARIES ARE FOUNDATIONAL TO EDUCATION, IMAGINATION AND OPPORTUNITY PROVIDING EARLY LITERACY PROGRAMS, DIGITAL TOOLS AND LIFELONG LEARNING RESOURCES THAT SUPPORT PERSONAL GROWTH WHEREAS LIBRARIES WELCOME ALL PEOPLE AS INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY HUBS CONNECTING DIVISIONS ACROSS CULTURES, GENERATIONS AND EXPERIENCES WHILE FOSTERING CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND CRITICAL THINKING WHEREAS LIBRARIES STRENGTHEN LOCAL ECONOMIES BY EQUIPPING JOBSEEKERS, ENTREPRENEURS, STUDENTS AND CRATERS WITH TRUSTED INFORMATION, DIGITAL ACCESS AND ESSENTIAL TOOLS FOR SUCCESS.

WHEREAS THE DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS OF CARROLLTON PUBLIC LIBRARY ARE COMMITTED TO EXCELLENCE IN PROGRAM SERVICES AND COLLECTIONS THAT MEET THE EVOLVING NEEDS OF A GROWING AND DIVERSE POPULATION WHEREAS CARROLLTON PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS BEEN AWARDED THE ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN LIBRARIES AWARD BY TEXAS MUNICIPAL LIBRARY DIRECTOR ASSOCIATION FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY RATHER LIBRARY CARD OPENS DOORS TO ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES FROM THE BOOKS AND TECHNOLOGY TO IMAGINATION, CREATIVITY AND LIFELONG LEARNING NOW THEREFORE I, TRYING TO MIRROR OF CARROLLTON DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 2025 AS LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UP MONTH AND I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN ME BEING A CARDMEMBER FOR THE CITY OF

CARROLLTON. >>

>> I WANT TO SEE ALL OF YOU OVER HERE.

>> WE CAN DO IT.

OKAY. OKAY, YOU CAN'T SEE ME AND I CAN'T SEE YOU. OKAY.

READY?

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH MAYOR INTO COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT FOR YOUR CONTINUING SUPPORT I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE LIBRARY STAFF, THEY JUST ESCAPED AS SOON AS THEY COULD, BUT FOR THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE LIBRARY SUCCESSFUL AND WE CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT THEM. SEPTEMBER AS LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UP MONTH AND THE THEME IS ONE YOU CARD, ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES, TO CELEBRATE THE LIBRARY 'S RUNNING PROMOTION THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 WHERE NEW AND EXISTING CARDHOLDERS CAN EARN CHANCES TO WIN PRIZES INCLUDING TICKETS TO SIX FLAGS, THE MUSEUM AND FRISCO ROUGH RIDERS, THEY ARE FREE FOR ALL CARROLLTON RESIDENTS SO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT LIBRARIES, TAKE PART IN THE PROMOTION, GET A LIBRARY CARD IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND ENJOY THE ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES IT

PROVIDES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY MY LAST PRESENTATION FOR THE EVENING BEFORE WE GET TO THE NORMAL CONSENT AGENDA ITEM IS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK. WE LOVE PAYDAY, IMPORTANT DATA ALL OF US. IF I COULD HAVE FROM THE DALLAS CHAPTER OF PAYROLL ORGANIZATION JOIN ME AS WELL AS OUR INTERNAL PAYROLL TEAM JOINING ME UP FRONT. SUCH AN IMPORTANT JOB IN ANY ORGANIZATION. WHETHER IT'S A FRIDAY, THE FIRST AND 15TH, WHETHER IT'S EVERY TWO WEEKS WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO PAYROLL AND WE NOTICE WHEN IT IS NOT THERE RIGHT? SO WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF JOINING ME ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNCIL WHEREAS NATIONAL PAYROLL BE CELEBRATED ANNUALLY DURING THE WEEK OF LABOR DAY HONORS THE HARD WORK OF AMERICA'S 160 MILLION WAGE EARNERS AND PARAPROFESSIONALS WHO ENSURE THEY ARE PAID ACCURATELY AND ON TIME WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS IN CARROLLTON PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN MAINTAINING COMPLIANCE WITH TAX LAWS, COLLECTING AND REMITTING FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL TAXES THAT FUND CRITICAL PROGRAMS SUCH AS SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND EDUCATION. AND WHEREAS THESE PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS HELP ENSURE EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THEIR PAYCHECKS, BENEFITS AND DEDUCTIONS, EMPOWERING INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE INFORMED FINANCIAL DECISIONS. WHEREAS NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK CELEBRATES A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AMERICA'S WORKERS, PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN SUPPORTING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, I, STEVE BABICK MAYOR OF THE GREAT CITY OF CARROLLTON IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 1-7 AS NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK HERE IN CARROLLTON. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>

>> JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU MAYOR FOR THIS IN THE NAME OF THE PAYROLL ASSOCIATION. IT IS NOT EASY PROFESSION BECAUSE NOBODY WILL CALL AND TELL YOU MY CHECK IS RIGHT, ONLY CALLED WHEN SOMETHING IS WRONG. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> >> ALL RIGHT THAT WAS FUN. I

[PUBLIC FORUM]

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE EXTRA WEEK OFF. I AM SPEAKING TO ABOUT ITEM 14 AND I'M HOPING THAT I CAN CONVINCE ONE OR SOME OF YOU TO PULL THIS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE , IN THIS ORDINANCE, YOU ARE PLACING THE PUBLIC FORUM , THE PORTION OF THE AGENDA WHERE RESIDENTS , BUSINESS OWNERS, STAKEHOLDERS IN

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[01:35:06]

>> OKAY COUNCIL I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS FOR ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS 12 THROUGH 18. I'M HAPPY TO

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AXBERG. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR I WOULD

LIKE TO PULL ITEM 14. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEMS NUMBER 12 TO 13 AND 15 TO 18?

>> CONSENT ITEMS -- >> COUNCILMEMBER CLINE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 12 AND 13, MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CLINE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE

MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG. >> NO DISCUSSION.

>> SEEING NONE CALLED ABOUT. >> AND THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS

[*14. Consider An Ordinance Of The City Council Of The City Of Carrollton, Texas, Amending Article III, Chapter 30, City Council, By Adding A New Section 30.02, To Be Entitled “Public Meeting Rules Of Decorum,” A New Section 30.03, To Be Entitled “Citizen Participation During Council Meetings,” And A New Section 30.04, To Be Entitled “Failure To Follow Rules Of Decorum Or Disruption Of Public Meeting,” To The Code Of Ordinances Of The City Of Carrollton.]

COUNCILMEMBER PALACIOS. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. ITEM 14 AS

STIPULATED. >> COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG.

>> THANK YOU I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION AND ALSO MAKE A COMMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO RUN NOT ONLY THE CHAIR, BUT TO COUNCIL WE DID DISCUSS THIS IN THE WORK SESSION, WE DID REVIEW AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE ORDINANCE, GIVING THE CHAIR THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE RULES THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN OUTLINED IN THE CHARTER REGARDING CITIZENS COMING UP AND BEING ABLE TO VOICE THEIR MIND AND OPINIONS ON CITY BUSINESS BUT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT FROM BOTH OUR STAFF AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL WORKING TO THIS PARTICULAR ADMISSION AND STIPULATION IN THE CHARTER,

THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL HAVE A MOTION BY PALACIOS AND SECOND BY AXBERG. ITEM NUMBER 14 AS STIPULATED STIPULATIONS ARE FEW TEXT CHANGES AND STRIKING THE LAST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IF A PUBLIC FORUM IS POSTED THIS ITEM SHALL APPEAR ON REGULAR MEETING AGENDA UPON CONCLUSION OF ALL OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL CALL THE VOTE. ONE LAST THING I WILL VOTE, THIS TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S POINT, THIS ORDINANCE WAS BROUGHT FORTH BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. WHERE PODCAST AND OTHERS HAVE CREATED SHENANIGANS IN PUBLIC MEETINGS LIKE THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND CREATING PODCASTS SO THIS IS INTENDED IF SOMEBODY COMES AND WANTS TO MAKE A MOCKERY OF THIS ENVIRONMENT WE CAN STOP THE DISCUSSION, GIVE THEM A WARNING AND SUCCESSIVE VIOLATIONS WILL ULTIMATELY POTENTIALLY PREVENT THEM FROM DOING SO , SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE AS WE DISCUSSED IN OUR RETREAT AND IS BEING CODIFIED HERE. WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER

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PALOMO. >> THANK YOU I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IN THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO PUT SOME , SOME BOUNDARIES ON THE DECORUM OF THE PUBLIC FORUM AND NOT SO MUCH THE LENGTH OF TIME, GIVEN THE LENGTH OF TIME IS THREE MINUTES IS PLENTY OF TIME FOR SOMEONE TO COME WITH THOUGHTS AND GET THEIR POINT ACROSS TO THE COUNCIL SO I AM

ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. >> SEEING NO OTHER SPEAKERS , I

[PUBLIC HEARING - INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION (Part 1 of 2)]

[INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION]

ITEM NUMBER 22 IS TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE ADOPTING AND APPROVING CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 FOR FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2026. THIS IS A SCRIPTED MOTION, ANY DISCUSSION PRIOR TO THE MOTION? COUNCIL

MEMBER CARPENTER. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ADOPTING AND APPROVING CAPITAL BUDGET CITY OF CARROLLTON MAKING APPROPRIATIONS THEREFORE, FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2026.

>> OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER AND MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG ADOPTING AND APPROVING OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON MAKING APPROPRIATIONS THEREFORE FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 OCTOBER 1, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2026. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY I WILL MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. ON THIS PRIOR TO THE VOTE. WILL .0 AD VALOREM TAX WHICH IS THE PROPERTY TAX ACCOUNTS FOR $77 MILLION, PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENDITURES IS $94 MILLION , THAT WOULD IN FOR 100% OUTSIDE OF DEBT SERVICE WHICH IS A CARVEOUT AND REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW FOR PROPERTY TAX OUTSIDE OF THAT 100% OF THE RESIDENT PROPERTY TAXES AND LESS THE SERVICE GOES TO PUBLIC SAFETY EVERY OTHER EXPENDITURE THE CITY MAKES THIS ONE THROUGH ALTERNATIVE MEANS SUCH AS SALES TAX, FRANCHISE FEES AND I WILL COMMAND STAFF AND COUNCIL IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THE BUDGET FOCUSING ON PUBLIC SAFETY BY INVESTING WITH ARE CAMERAS, FLOOD CONTROL. BE THE PAY GO FUNDING ACCELERATED DEPRECIATION ON OUR FLEET TO ENSURE THAT OUR FLEET IS SHIPSHAPE AND WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, THIRD YEAR IN A ROW FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW WE ARE INVESTING OVER $100 MILLION IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR CITIZENS, STREETS AND WALKWAYS, ALLEYWAYS, DRAINAGE ET CETERA AT 133.4 MILLION. 60% OF ALL INFRASTRUCTURE SPEND IS VIA PAY

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AND THE MOTION PASSES WITH COUNCILMEMBER , COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING IN OPPOSITION. THAT TAKES A STARTING 23 CONSIDER ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING TAX RATE AND TEXT OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON TAX YEAR 2025 UPON TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON IN CONFORMITY WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE CITY. THIS IS A SCRIPTED MOTION I WILL ASK FINANCE CHAIR TO MAKE A MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER.

>> THANK YOU I MOVE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY ADOPTION OF TAX RATE OF 53.750 CENTS PER $100 OF VALUATION EFFECTIVELY A

4.45% INCREASE ON THE TAX RATE. >> LOOKING FOR A SECOND MAYOR

PRO TEM. MAYOR PRO TEM . >> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THE

MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG THAT PROPERTY TAX INCREASE BY ADOPTION OF TAX RATE OF 53.75 CENTS PER $100 OF VALUATION EFFECTIVELY 4.45 % INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I WILL MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, THE 4.45% INCREASE AS STATED IN THE TAX RATE IS AFTER OUR 12 STRAIGHT YEAR AS A COUNCIL REDUCING TAX RATE THAT IS APPLIED TO RESONANT APPRAISAL VALUE FOR THEIR TAXABLE VALUE, 12 STRAIGHT YEAR WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX WHO HAVE BEEN DILIGENT AND INTENTIONAL WITH THE REDUCTION TO PASS IT ON TO CITIZENS, 4.45% INCREASE BY LAW IS STATED INCLUDES 3.1% OF CORE INFLATION WHICH MEANS WITHOUT INFLATION WE ARE AT .35 , 35 BASIS POINTS OF A PERCENTAGE INCREASE AGAINST THE TAX RATE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION OTHERWISE IT WILL CALL THE VOTE. SEEING NONE I WILL CALL THE VOTE. AND THE MOTION PASSES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING IN OPPOSITION. OKAY COUNCIL THAT TAKES US TO OUR, CONSIDER SOLUTION RATIFYING TECH CITY PROPERTY TAX INCREASE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 OPERATING BUDGET. I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE

APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 24. >> MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG.

>> THANK YOU I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER AND SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG TO APPROVE RESOLUTION RATIFYING POVERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED FISCAL YEAR 2025 , 2026 OPERATING BUDGET.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE MY COMMENTS ARE JUST REITERATING WHAT I HAVE SAID FOR THE MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, WITH THAT I WILL CALL THE VOTE.

>> AND THE MOTION PASSES WITH COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING IN

[PUBLIC HEARING - INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION (Part 2 of 2)]

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ON A 2.35 ACRE TRACK ZONE LR 2 LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT AT 2763 EAST TRINITY MILLS ROAD TO ESTABLISH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM 40% BUILDING COVERAGE AND TO UTILIZE

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TENNIS CLUB. >> GOOD EVENING, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT BEFORE YOU IS TO ESTABLISH ONE FOR A FEW REASONS.

ONE IS, IT IS A INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND TWO REASONS IS IT'S GOING TO ALLOW BUILDING FOOTPRINT TO EXCEED THE MINIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE OF 40%. FINALLY TO UTILIZE ALTERNATIVE SCREENING MATERIALS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY NAMELY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 46,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THIS LR 2, 40% BUILDING COVERAGE IS MAXIMUM, THEY'RE GOING 5.8% OVER THAT.

IT WILL BE ALL INDOORS WITH SIX TENNIS COURTS THERE PROVIDING, THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH PARKING PROVIDED ALONG THE SOUTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDE PARDON ME.

PROVIDING LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE PARKING AS WELL ON THE BACKSIDE ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO THAT THEY WILL HAVE A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL FROM THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE NORTHWARD UP UNTIL IT REACHES A FLOODWAY AND FLOODPLAIN WHERE WALLS CANNOT BE BUILT THERE ARE A BUNCH OF TREES AND LARGE TREES AT THAT THAT ARE THERE WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS FOR TREES TO BE PRESERVED AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED ELEVATIONS FOR THE SITE THAT GOES ALONG WITH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE BEEN CONCERNS IDENTIFYING BY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND FLOODING FROM THE DRAINAGE AREA THAT IS NORTH OF THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THE ARIAL HERE. THE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WHERE THE WHITE BLOCK IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE GROUPING OF THE TREES ARE AND THEN RUNNING NORTH ALONG THE ALLEY AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR, INSTEAD IT IS PART OF THE DRAINAGE AREA THERE. AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE STORMWATER ORDINANCE SO ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO DETAIN ITS OWN WATER SO IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE RELEASED IMPACTING SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND THAT IS WITH ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN, THE SECOND WAS ENVIRONMENTAL WHERE THERE WAS AND THERE WAS THE ACCUSATION OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ON THE SITE, THE PROPERTY OWNER PROVIDED US TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS SINCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. IN 2022 CONFIRMING THERE WERE NO POLLUTANTS OR HAZARD MATERIALS FOR THAT STUDY, A MORE THOROUGH DID SAMPLING OF THE SITE CONFIRMING THE 2022 ASSESSMENT AND THERE WERE NO ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS ON THE PROPERTY. WITH THIS BEING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WANT TO REMEMBER FOR THE COUNCIL, THESE CONCEPT PLANS ARE PART OF IT SO THAT IS ADOPTED WITH THE DESIGN, THEY WERE NOT BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT DESIGN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT THEY CANNOT HAVE THE LARGER BUILDING AND THE ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. THERE HAVE BEEN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL WITH THE PRESENTATION.

>> THIS DID GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND IT WAS DENIED WITH A VOTE 4-4, TIGHT, SO IT WAS DENIED SO WOULD REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.

SCHAPIRO? >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, MR. SCHAPIRO I WAS TRYING TO LOOK FOR IT AND WHEN I READ THIS EARLIER , GOING 40% OVER TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NUMBERS CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE AND WHY WE

ARE ABLE TO DO IT SUCCESSFULLY. >> AS IT RELATES TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS BASICALLY 100,000 SQUARE FEET SO 40,000 WOULD BE THE 40% FOR THE BUILDING COVERAGE, IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE PARKING AREA JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF.

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>> SO YOU ALL FEEL THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE BUILDING GIVEN THE USE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO OVER THE AMOUNT

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OTHERWISE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD. >>

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY MEMBERS OF LIKE TO PROPOSE AND TRANSFORM DEVELOPER LABORATORY LUXURY INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY THAT WILL IMPROVE THE AREA APPEARANCE, LAND-USE AND LONG-TERM VALUE. AS YOU CAN SEE I WANT TO START CALLING OUT THREE MAJOR PROBLEMS GENERATED WITH THIS. FIRST IS THE TRASH ACCUMULATION BY THE NEARBY BUSINESS, LIKE THE SELF-SERVICE CARWASH AND THE SECOND IS NO NOISE AND SIDE CONTROL BECAUSE THE LAND IS VACANT AND THE THIRD IS OVERGROWTH VEGETATION AND THAT CREATES UNFAVORABLE APPEARANCE. THE RIGHT SIDE IS A RENDERING FOR THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND THE LEFT SIDE IS THE EXISTING CONDITION WITH THE SELF-SERVICE CARWASH. SO WE WANT TO BUILD A PROFESSIONAL IN DORM TENNIS CLUB PROVIDING SAFETY AND CLEANLINESS AND SITE CONTROL. AND SERVES AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND A CAR WASH. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RENDERING. ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE CARWASH AND OUR BUILDING CAN BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUSINESS. THIRD IS ADDING A WALKABLE AMENITY TO THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. SO WE BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL ENHANCE THE AREA APPEARANCE AND HAS POTENTIAL TO INCREASE SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUE. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE AUGUST 7 THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, DURING THE MEETING WE HAD SUPPORT ON THE FIVE OBJECTIONS SO BECAUSE OF THAT AND ONE ABSENT BECAUSE OF THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MOTION PASSED. BUT SINCE THEN WE HAVE DONE A FEW THINGS BUT THE REASON WE HAVE FOUR OBJECTIONS IS PRIMARY BECAUSE OF TWO REASONS. FIRST IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISK CONCERN, THE CONCERN BY A NEIGHBOR AND ALSO FORMER LICENSED PG CONCERNS OF POTENTIAL CONTAMINATION. SINCE THEN WE ADDRESS THIS BY COMMISSIONING ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS COMPLETED IN AUGUST 23 AND LICENSED ALSO CONSULTED FOR THE LOCATION AND THE TESTING PROCESS SO THE RESULT SHOWS NO CONTAMINATION ENVIRONMENTAL RISK IDENTIFIED THE REPORT FROM THE CITY ENGINEER SO ALSO CONCURS WITH THE RESULTS. SECOND IS DRAINAGE ISSUES. SO THE DRAINAGE DESIGN CAN ONLY BE INITIATED DURING THE DESIGN REVIEW FACE WITH THE CITY OF CARROLLTON CITY STAFF AFTER PD APPROVAL. AFTER THAT WE HAVE LEFT 65 FEET OF SANDBAGS TO ALLOW TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY TO POTENTIAL DETAIN THE RETENTION SOLUTION. WE WENT TO VISIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEPTEMBER 7 SO WITHIN THE PROPERTIES WITHIN 200 FEET AFTER EXPLAINING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND DRAINAGE FUNDING SO THE OPPOSITION DECREASED 80% WAS 0% IN FAVOR INCREASE 0%, 47%, THE OTHER TABLE SHOWS THE ADDRESSES REVISITED THE POSITION ON AUGUST 7 AND NOW SEPTEMBER 7 SO THE MAJOR REASON THE OBJECT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE

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>> COUNCIL THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION AFTERWARD. SEEING NON-I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DO HAVE A FEW CARDS, A NUMBER OF CARDS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I WILL READ THOSE THAT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK FIRST, HOWARD WINK IN SUPPORT BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, RAISE YOUR HAND THANK YOU.

WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN SUPPORT. ERIC GOODWIN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN SUPPORT. AND THEN MY NEXT , SORRY ABOUT THAT MY FIRST CARD TO SPEAK IS MARK HODGE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, DOES NOT INDICATE FOR OR AGAINST BUT YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU MR. MORAN COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS WITH , I'M WITH THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION, THE GOVERNING BODY OF TENNIS IN THE UNITED STATES. WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR INDOOR TENNIS COURTS IN THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX. THIS PROJECT ALSO ALIGNS WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT WHICH IS TO GROW TENNIS TO INSPIRE HEALTHIER PEOPLE AND HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THE NEXT CARD IS NIGEL

AGAINST. >> I AM HERE I RECENTLY JOINED THE TENNIS LEAGUE WE HAVE A LARGE TENNIS COMMUNITY. I AM INTERESTED TO SHOW MY SUPPORT EVEN IF THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE I AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE NEED TENNIS INDOOR COURTS IN THIS AREA IT'S HARD TO FIND INDOOR COURT UNLESS AS YOU GO TO EXCLUSIVE CLUB OR YOU HAVE TO PLAY TO PLAY. I BELIEVE WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE CITY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRACTICE WE LIKE TO PRACTICE THIS BEAUTIFUL SPORT REGARDLESS OF THE WEATHER CONDITIONS AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT FOR US, FOR THE

WHOLE CITY. >> THANK YOU, MY NEXT CARD IS JOHNNY SIMS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR FROM JL S ENGINEERING.

>> YEAH, I AM THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE THE COUNCIL WE WILL FOLLOW ALL CITY ROLES, WE WILL MITIGATE THE FLOOD AND WORK WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE

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YOU. >> VERY GOOD. MY NEXT CARD IS FROM MARVIN REEDER WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR FROM GENERAL CARROLLTON TENNIS. SO YES MARVIN REEDER 3940 INDIAN OAKS HERE IN CARROLLTON. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK ABOUT THIS I'M PART OF THE CARROLLTON TENNIS COMMUNITY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.

I FELT LIKE DURING THE ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING WHICH I ALSO ATTENDED WE GOT OFF TRACK TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL PROJECT INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THE EXTRA 6% OF BUILDING SPACE THAT WAS ASKED FOR IN THE VARIANCE. SO WITH THAT FOCUS THE FIVE QUARTS WOULD BE GREAT, HAVING THE VARIANCE AND THAT SIX COURT WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, THESE COURTS WILL BE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE OAK CREEK TENNIS CENTER AND THERE'S A HUGE COMMUNITY OF TENNIS PLAYERS IN CARROLLTON THAT PARTICIPATE BOTH AT THE OAK CREEK TENNIS CENTER AND WITHIN THE CARROLLTON TENNIS ASSOCIATION. THERE IS ALSO THE KOREAN TENNIS ASSOCIATION SO THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT HAVING YOU GUYS

APPROVE THE VARIANCE. >> VERY GOOD.

>> I WANTED TO COME UP EARLY BECAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING AT 8:00 AND I TOLD THEM I WILL BE FIVE MINUTES LATE.

>> YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME. I WOULD'VE HAD YOU FIRST.

>> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS

>> GOOD EVENING MY COUNCILMEMBERS COME I LIVE AT 1112 APACHE LAKE IN CARROLLTON, LIVING HERE , WE MOVED HERE AFTER WE GOT MARRIED AND HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE. I AM PART OF THE CARROLLTON TENNIS ASSOCIATION YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF US. WE WERE HERE LAST YEAR ABOUT ANOTHER TOPIC. SO I AM THE DIRECTOR THERE BUT I AM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF CTA TONIGHT, JUST COMING HERE TO SPEAK AS A TENNIS ENTHUSIAST SO WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY HERE IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON AND I WAS SO PROUD OF THE JOB THAT SCOTT WHITAKER AND HEATHER AND THEIR TEAM HAS DONE, MAINTAINING WITH THE PARKS , COURTS AND TENNIS CENTER. IT IS ALWAYS WELL-MAINTAINED AND WE ALWAYS FILL THE COURT, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY WE HAVE A LOT OF PLAYERS OUTSIDE OF CARROLLTON COMING HERE BECAUSE THE COURTS WERE SO NICE. HAVING, HAVING A INDOOR TENNIS COURT FACILITY ALL YEAR ROUND COMING TO A GREAT CITY , IT IS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR ME AND FOR MANY OF US IN THE TENNIS COMMUNITY. WHETHER YOU ARE PARENTS OF A JUNIOR RECREATION PLAYER , SOMEONE WHO TRAINS HERE WHO KNOWS, WE MIGHT CRANK OUT A PRO PLAYER AND SO, WITH THAT I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. I HOPE, YOU KNOW I LOOK FORWARD, FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND THIS WOULD PUT US ON THE MAP SO TO SPEAK AND I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING TO COME TO CARROLLTON TO PLAY IN THIS GREAT FACILITY WITH THE COUNTRY CLUB AMENITIES INCLUDING ELECTRONIC LINE CALLS WHICH, THERE'S A LOT OF BICKERING WHEN IT COMES TO THAT IN THE GAME OF TENNIS.

>> MY NEXT CARD IS MICHAEL PERRY. SORRY THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES. WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, ANY RELATION TO JOE

POUNCEY? OKAY. >> FOUND OUT THOSE GUYS ARE MY COUSINS. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HAVING. I'M THE OWNER OF GENESIS ENVIRONMENTAL I'M A GEOLOGIST AND CORRECTIVE ACTION MANAGER. 15 YEAR PROFESSIONAL WORK OUT LARGER FIRMS MY FIRM SPECIALIZES IN DUE DILIGENCE AND CORRECTIVE ACTION HAVE GENERALLY THOUSAND ASSESSMENTS ACROSS THE UNITED

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>> THANK YOU, MR. POUNCEY. MY NEXT CARD IS BREESE DAVIDSON. IN FAVOR, NOT SPEAKING. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

>> SO LANDSCAPING TREES ON THE LEFT SIDE PLEASE. GOOD EVENING HELLO. I LIVE AT 2740 EAST WENT WOULD DRIVE, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE 40 YEARS. I LIVE EIGHT FEET FROM THE PROPOSED

PROPERTY. THE MAP PLEASE. >> THERE IS A LAYOUT.

THERE WAS ONE WITH LANDSCAPING. LET ME GO ON WHILE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THAT. THAT WILL WORK OKAY. I AM A TEXAS LICENSED PROFESSIONAL GEOSCIENTIST, BG LICENSED TO SPEAK ABOUT CONTAMINATION AND THE SUBSURFACE ET CETERA, BEFORE THE PUBLIC AND HAVE DONE SO FOR MY WHOLE CAREER. MY INITIAL OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS THAT 15 YEARS AGO A DRILLING PROGRAM FOUND SUBSURFACE CONTAMINATION AND IT WAS NEVER REPORTED . WE WORRIED ABOUT THAT THOSE OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE WORRIED FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, BUT HE WAS WILLING AND I WANT TO APPLAUD HIM FOR SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO GET OUT THERE AND DO A PHASE 2 ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT DRILLING AND HE SHOWED ME IN MY LIVING ROOM THE OTHER DAY THE REPORT AND IT IS APPARENT THAT CONTAMINATION HAS BEEN BIO REMEDIATED SO IN MY OPINION THAT IS NO LONGER A CONCERN SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALSO, THE CREEK ON THE NORTH SIDE FLOODS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS FLOODED THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE LAST 25 YEARS. IN SPEAKING WITH MR. CHEN , GOING OVER WITH HIM A NUMBER OF TIMES WE WILL HAVE TO DESIGN THE STORM WATER RETENTION SO AS TO NOT TO AGGRAVATE THE FLOODING AND IN SPEAKING WITH MR. SIMS AND MR. CHEN THEY HAVE TOLD ME HOW THEY WILL DO THAT AND THANK YOU, THEY'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING A RETENTION POND ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE HERE WHERE THE FACTORIES ARE LOCATED AND IT WANT TO BE DECENT SIZE TO PREVENT AGGRAVATION OF THE FLOODING. AND THAT IS FINE WITH ME, SEVERAL TIMES MR. CHEN SAID

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MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE LAST CUT I HAVE ON THIS ITEM IS DAVID WILLIAMS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. WE WILL MAKE A NOTE FOR 21. COUNCIL I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, IF ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

>> AND POULTER , I'M GLAD THE NEW ORDINANCE DOES NOT LIMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CAN SPEAK. REALLY WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I GREW UP PLAYING TENNIS YOU KNOW I DO THINK AN INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY CERTAINLY COMPLEMENTS OAK CREEK TENNIS CENTER , WHICH IS A BIG SUCCESS. WHICH IS SOMETHING SIMILAR WE HAVE WITH THE PICKLEBALL INDOOR PICKLEBALL JUST SOUTH OF FRANKFURT OFF 35 SO CERTAINLY THERE IS A NEED AND AN ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF THIS, HOWEVER SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, THE ISSUE THAT I THINK YOU REALLY WANT TO CONSIDER IS THE LIMITED SETBACK OF I THINK IT'S ONLY 65 FEET, THEY SAID , BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES AND THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE SIDE OF THE ALLEY ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT IS EXISTING THERE , I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. THEY BUILT THE ELLIS APARTMENTS BEHIND MY HOUSE BEHIND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND COUNCIL AT THAT TIME APPROVED THE VARIANCE, ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A THREE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING WHICH I BELIEVE THESE ARE AT LEAST AS TALL AS A THREE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING WITH A REDUCED SETBACK OF ONLY 100 FEET. SO EVEN MORE THAN WHAT THIS. AT LEAST THEY PUT IN A EIGHT-FOOT SCREENING WALL IT'S UGLY ONE OF THOSE PREFABRICATED ONES. HAD, THEY AGREE TO PUT IN SOME SCREENING TREES AND 15 YEARS LATER, THE TREES BARELY SCREEN ANYTHING AND EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENDED UP HAVING TO BUILD TALLER FENCES AND I ENDED UP BREAKING IN A BATHROOM WINDOW AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT SO MUCH A PRIVACY ISSUE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE LOOKING DOWN BUT FROM THE EYESORE STANDPOINT, THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF DETRIMENTAL TO THOSE HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO IT WAS SUCH A MINIMAL, MINIMAL SET BACK. AND I KNOW PART OF THE COUNCIL GOALS , THE COUNCIL'S MISSION IS TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CARROLLTON RESIDENTS. AND IN THIS CASE PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BACK UP TO THIS AND I THINK THAT NECESSITATES YOU DENYING THIS PROJECT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TOO TALL, IT IS NOT A SUFFICIENT SETBACK. IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THEIR FACE FOR THOSE HOMES, THE HOMES THAT AFFECTED THAT. SO IF IT WAS A 200S FOOT SETBACK GO AHEAD WANT

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>> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >> ANYONE WISHING TO CALL TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS OR FOR THIS? SEEING KNOW AND I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING I WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT IF HE WISHES TO MAKE A REBUTTAL TO ANYTHING SET, NOT REQUIRED BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE

TO YOU MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL I WANT TO REPLY TO THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE SETBACK, THE SETBACK REQUIRES , FOR THE ONE-STORY 25 FEET, FOR THE SECOND STORY WE HAVE A SECOND STORY WHICH IS 65 FEET, 65 FEET IS MORE THAN ENOUGH . IF THERE WAS ANY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS TALKED WITH US, THERE WAS ZERO CONCERN ABOUT THE SETBACK THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. SO WE THINK THAT'S TOTALLY ENOUGH AND WHEN THE OF THE PEAK HEIGHT AT 35 AND THE ADDED HEIGHT IS ONLY 18. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE 35 ADDED TO 65 BECAUSE IT IS RISING WITH A SLOPE SO I WANT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONSIDER THAT. ALSO, THERE IS ANY OTHER LENGTH IN CARROLLTON IN A GOOD LOCATION SUITABLE FOR TENNIS PLAYERS WE WOULD HAVE FOUND THAT ALREADY, THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE, THIS LAND IS PERFECT USE FOR TENNIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXPOSED TO THE STREET SO THE LAND IS RELATIVELY CHEAPER THAN OTHER LAND SO THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE CAN FIND.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU BASED ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSION.

OTHERS MAY HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL. ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED THERE WAS A RETENTION POND AGREEMENT . FIRST OFF THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF US FOR A RETENTION POND ABOVE OR UNDERGROUND RIGHT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> IS THAT A COMMITMENT? IF IT IS THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER ADDING TO THE

REQUIREMENT VIA STIPULATION? >> WANT TO CLARIFY, I TOLD YOU WE LEFT 65 FEET OVER THERE JUST IN CASE THE CITY AS TO HAVE DETENTION SOLUTION BUT WITHOUT GOING TO THE DESIGN PHASE WE DON'T KNOW ADDING OTHER UTILITY LINES OR WHERE WE CAN PUT THE DETENTION POND WHAT IS THE SIZE OR THE DEPTH. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS, THERE'S NO WAY MY CIVIL ENGINEER CAN CALCULATE THAT SO I TOLD MR. BOOTH BASED ON CITY REQUIREMENTS WE WILL PUT EITHER RETENTION OR DETENTION POND BASED ON THE FLEXIBILITY, HOWEVER IF THE CITY ALLOWS US, I PREFER UNDERGROUND DETENTION POND OVER RETENTION POND BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUE AND SAFETY LIABILITY ISSUE BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE. THE FINAL DESIGN IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE WE WILL GO THROUGH HERE ALL

OVER AGAIN. >> THANK YOU CAN I HAVE FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM RECOGNIZING THERE IS NO DESIGN, THIS IS JUST A PLAN , EXACTLY. SO THE RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION WAS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW, ABOVE AND UNDERGROUND IS REQUIRED BUT DURING THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE RETENTION POND IF IT IS REQUIRED STAFF WOULD NOTIFY, WALKED THE COUNCIL THROUGH THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THAT WOULD LEAD TO A RETENTION

POND. >> IT SOMETHING TO BE ADDRESSED BY ENGINEERING, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

>> DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. AT THE TIME OF THE ENGINEERING PLAN SUBMITTED STAFF WILL REVIEW THOSE AND MAKE SURE THEY MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR DETENTION OR RETENTION WHICHEVER THEY CHOOSE AND WE WILL ALLOW THE ENGINEER TO COME IN WITH THE DESIGN. TYPICALLY THAT IS NOT A ZONING ISSUE IF IT IS A ZONING CASE WE WOULD NOT WANT LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN THE ZONING CASE TO DICTATE HOW THE ENGINEER WILL DESIGN THIS.

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>> FAIR ENOUGH THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SHAPIRO. CAN YOU REVIEW WITH US AGAIN THE PARKING AND ACCESS SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE LAND-USE IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE HOW, WAS THERE A TRAFFIC STUDY , ARE PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT AND FOR THE SIZE I KNOW IT IS A VERY LARGE BUILDING, BUT IT IS TENNIS

WHICH I AM FAMILIAR WITH. >> RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE BEST WAY OF DESCRIBING HOW THE ACCESS WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED. THERE IS NO STREET FRONTAGE ON MARCH NOR TRINITY MILLS BUT THERE IS MUTUAL ACCESS BOTH AT THE CAR WASH IN THE GARAGE AND ANOTHER AT THE MEDICAL OFFICES THAT IS DUE SOUTH SO, THROUGH THOSE MUTUAL ACCESS DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE EXISTING THAT IS HOW THE TENNIS FACILITY WILL BE ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS ON MARSH LANE AND TRINITY

MILLS. >> OKAY THAT MAKES SENSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH BASICALLY WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE IN THE PARKING LOT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS

THAT. >> THAT IS VERY TYPICAL. WITH

MUTUAL ACCESS. >> AS FAR AS THE PARKING GOES, WAS THERE ANY KIND OF STUDY WITH THE PARKING AS FAR AS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IN REGARDS TO THE FACILITY ITSELF?

>> THEY PROVIDED MORE PARKING THAN THEY NEEDED SO THEY HAVE MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. THEY DID A STUDY AND PROVIDED US A STUDY THAT MORE THAN MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> OKAY COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER.

>> THANK YOU, I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL WHEN WE COME TO ITEMS LIKE THIS, WE WANT TO NOT DESIGN FROM THE DAIS AND TAKE CONCEPTS THAT ARE NOT PRESENTED TO US AND TO CHANGE THEM I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS TERRITORY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION PROVIDED . WHEN WE ARE TASKED WITH LOOKING AT LAND-USE WITHIN THE CITY IT IS IMPORTANT WE TAKE IN ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS.

I AM VERY SATISFIED WITH THE LAND-USE FOR THIS, I HOPE YOU ALL WILL JOIN ME IN VOTING FOR THIS. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, I BELIEVE ACCESS IS PROVIDED, PARKING IS PROVIDED FOR THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL COME LATER , THAT WILL BE ADMINISTRATIVE. I BELIEVE THAT IS DONE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE SAY THINGS WE NEED TO DO WITH THE CITY SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION LESS THERE IS DISCUSSION AROUND THIS TO PROVE THIS ITEM AND I DON'T REMEMBER I THINK IT IS ITEM 20.

>> COUNCILMEMBER? >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> A QUESTION FOR MR. SHAPIRO. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL STAFF

RECOMMENDATION? >> ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS

TO PROVE. >> THIS WAS DENIED PERHAPS GOT OFF TRACK THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING BUT IT ALWAYS HAD STAFF

RECOMMENDATION. >> OKAY I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. I WOULD ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE CITY.

AS WE THINK ABOUT INDOOR ATHLETIC VENUES LIKE THIS, GOOD THINGS COME FROM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART TO MITIGATE WITH THAT I WILL CALL THE VOTE. AND THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPEAKERS.

THAT EXIST ITEM NUMBER 21. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW EVENT CENTER AND RECEPTION HALL IN APPROXIMATELY 5077 SQUARE FOOT SPACE ZONE LR 2 LOCAL RETAIL AND LOCATED AT 2129 NORTH JOSEY LANE AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY CASE NUMBER 2025-101 CARROLLTON EVENT CENTER. MR. SHAPIRO.

>> THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE YOU AGAIN IS FOR THE EVENT CENTER ALLOWING UP TO 125 PEOPLE . IT IS LOCATED ON PROPERTY THAT HAS EXISTING SPECIAL USE PERMIT ESPECIALLY 270 WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS FOR OFF-SITE OR SHARED PARKING AMONG TRACTS OF LAND

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>> HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SEP? ARE EACH OF THOSE 2 A, 2 B AND EACH OF THE THREE LOTS LISTED? ARE THOSE THE APPROXIMATE SPACES THAT WERE EARMARKED FOR THE LOT? 15 SPACES, 20 SPACES, THERE'S A MUTUAL PARKING AGREEMENT.

>> THE ACTUAL MASTER-PLANNED , IT'S NOT REALLY AN AGREEMENT IT IS THE SEP GRANTS THE ABILITY OF THE PARKING.

>> ARE THOSE SPACES SHOWN THERE IN TERMS OF THE PRORATING OF THE 52 ACROSS EACH OF THOSE THREE, AT THE TIME THREE PARCELS WAS THAT ABSENT THE ASSIGNED PARKING?

>> THAT'S CORRECT IT IS DUPLICATE TO WHAT IS OUT THERE

TODAY. >> IF YOU GO BACK TO THE , THIS ONE IS FINE I GUESS. YOU MADE THE POINT THAT THE USE , THE EVENT SPACE IS A HIGH-INTENSITY USE MORE THAN OFFICE SPACE.

BASED ON THE HIGH-INTENSITY USE IF ALL FOUR BUILDINGS OR THREE OF THE FOUR BECAME EVENT SPACE WITH THEIR BE SUFFICIENT

PARKING? >> SAY THAT AGAIN.

>> IF ALL THREE OF THESE WERE EVENT SPACES WOULD BE SUFFICIENT

PARKING? >> THERE WOULD NOT BE.

>> BASICALLY THEIR 16 SPACES IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED BASED

ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF , WE WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT AS WELL.

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>> THERE ARE 54 SORRY I'M JUMPING AROUND SO MUCH THE AERIAL, THEY'RE BASICALLY 54 PARKING SPACES IN THE AREA SHOWN DASHED IN THE RED. THAT'S WHAT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS FOR AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SEE BUT THERE'S FOUR TRACTS OF LAND THAT ARE ON THE SITE. SO, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 54 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE. OF WHICH THE TRAFFIC STUDY CAME BACK TO SAY 50 WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR THE EVENT CENTER RESUMING USES THOSE HOURS OF OPERATION. LEAVING ONLY FOUR.

>> THE OTHER THREE PARCELS. >> WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF

OPERATION? >> WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND WHAT THE STUDY CAME BACK WITH ARE THE HOURS OF AFTER 6:00 LEAD WITH THE IDEA THAT THE OTHER OPERATING BUSINESSES CAN OPERATE

BEFORE THOSE HOURS. >> IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THOSE

BUSINESSES TYPICALLY. >> DOES THE CURRENT SEP PRECLUDE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS FROM OPERATING AFTER 6:00 P.M.?

>> IT DOES NOT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OTHERWISE WE WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

OKAY. I WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT IF HERE TO MAKE A STATEMENT. IF YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. I WILL REMIND THE APPLICANT WHILE I DON'T SET A TIMER THE APPLICANTS ARE ALLOTTED ABOUT 20 MINUTES MAXIMUM AND 10 MINUTES

OF REBUTTAL. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS OSCAR MENDOZA APPLICANT FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE EVENT CENTER 2129 NORTH JOSIE LANE. HAVE A FOLDER HERE FOR EACH OF YOU ALL WITH THE PARKING STUDY WE CONDUCTED AS WELL AS A COPY OF THE SEP 270.

>> WE CURRENTLY OPERATE AS A RETAIL STORE, A BUSINESS THAT I SERVE CARROLLTON OVER 15 YEARS, PURCHASING THE BUILDING IN 2021 WE FACED CHALLENGES INCLUDING CAN CONSUMER HABITS, RISING COST AND REDUCED FOOT TRAFFIC, RATHER THAN LIVING UNDER WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL ECONOMY, VENDORS AND FAMILIES WHILE CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OURSELVES, AS A LIFELONG CARROLLTON RESIDENT THIS IS VERY PERSONAL. TO ME AND MY FAMILY, I GREW UP HERE I WENT TO A ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOL AND BUILD MY LIFE AND CAREER IN THE COMMUNITY. THE BUSINESS STORE 15 YEARS AND THE BANQUET HALL OVER 10 YEARS, WE ARE COMMITTED TO KEEPING JOBS, SUPPORTING LOCAL VENDORS AND ENSURING STAFF CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING TO CARROLLTON EVERY DAY. AT THE CURRENT VENUE WE HOST 50 EVENTS EACH YEAR OUR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE IS REFLECTED IN OUR 4.7 GOOGLE RATING AND 97% FACEBOOK APPROVAL, REAL FEEDBACK FROM TRYING TO SPECIAL MOMENTS TRUST US WITH SPECIAL MOMENTS.

THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE CURRENT SPACE. REVIEWS FROM CLIENTS ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE OPERATED A VENUE OVER 10 YEARS WITHOUT CITY COMPLAINTS THERE IS A GROWING DEMAND FOR A SMALLER MORE INTIMATE EVENTS, THE CURRENT VENUE IS OFTEN TOO LARGE FOR GROUPS UNDER 100 AND WE HAVE TO TURN AWAY MANY CLIENTS. THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS ASSIGNED 60 TO 100 GUESTS AND WE HAVE INQUIRIES HAVE BEEN FOR THE SIZE SHOWING STRONG LOCAL DEMAND FOR THAT. INQUIRIES WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE WEBSITE WITHIN THE PAST 60 DAYS ARE REQUESTING EVENTS FOR LESS THAN 100. HERE IS THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED LR 2 SO SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED

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THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT IN PLACE.

WHICH ALLOWS SHARED PARKING AMONG THE SITES IT IS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT LIMIT OR RESTRICT THE USE OF ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS. IN ADDITION THE PROPERTIES OWNED LOCAL RETAIL WHICH ALLOWS A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USE GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY FOR PROPOSED VENUE.

ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE OVERVIEW OF THE SITE, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY LR 2 ZONING TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND THE EAST AND ALSO THE LAKE TO THE WEST. THE INTERIORS WILL BE FULLY MODERNIZED AND FLEXIBLE FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS IN THE SPACE WILL BE ADA COMPLIANT WITH ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE AND RESTROOMS WE ARE ALSO INSTALLING A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM TO MEET SAFETY STANDARDS AND PROTECT GUESTS, STAFF AND THE PROPERTY. THIS IS A SCHEMATIC DESIGN THAT SHOWS THE INTERIOR DESIGN OF THE MENU. THIS SHOWS LAYOUT CLEAR ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS, ADA COMPLIANT PATHWAYS AND EMERGENCY ROUTES. WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND ACKNOWLEDGE CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT, WE WILL SUPPORT BUSINESSES LIKE WALGREENS AND CVS SINCE GUESTS MAKE LAST-MINUTE PURCHASES BEFORE EVENTS BY DRUG PEOPLE IN DURING EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS WE WILL BRING VISIBILITY AND ACTIVITY THAT HELPS DETER CRIME, THIS IS IMPORTANT GIVEN A RECENT TIP INTO THE NEARBY SPECIFICALLY FOR WALGREENS. WE ARE INVITING LANDSCAPING AND SECURITY TO FURTHER ENHANCE SAFETY, OVERALL WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT A DISRUPTION.

EVENT RECEPTIONS WILL BE ENDORSED WITH NO AMPLIFIED SOUND OUTSIDE , WE FOLLOW STRICT VOLUME LIMITS AND THROUGH REMODELING WE WILL INCLUDE SOME SOUNDPROOFING TO KEEP NOISE CONTAIN. CITY STAFF HAS RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL FUTURE CONCERNS ABOUT PROPERTY, TODAY NONE OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE INDICATED PLANS TO CHANGE OFFICE USE IN A WAY THAT WOULD COMPETE FOR PARKING. THE OWNER OF 2129 HAS EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT WHO IS HERE TODAY AS WELL. WE'RE ALSO WILLING TO DESIGNATE OR BLOWUP SPACES IF NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERNS WE WANT TO COLLABORATE A BENEFIT TO THE AREA BASICALLY THE DATA WE HAVE PROVIDED AND THE SURPLUS OF PARKING AVAILABLE WE ARE CONFIDENT PARKING WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE. AMPLE PARKING IS AVAILABLE DURING EVENING AND WEEKEND HOURS. DO NOT OVERLAP WITH NEIGHBORING OFFICE HOURS GENERALLY 9:00 UNTIL 5:00 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THE PROPERTY HAS 57 PARKING SPACES AND WE REQUIRE ONLY 41 AT FULL CAPACITY 125 LEAVING A SURPLUS OF 16 SPACES.

THIS IS BASED ON THE PARKING RATIO OF ONE PER 125 THAT THE CITY REQUIRES FOR EVENT SPACES. DIFFERENT POINTS OF ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY WITH THREE WAYS TO ENTER THE PROPERTY COMING FROM THE SOUTH AND FOUR WAYS TO ENTER COMING FROM THE NORTH. THIS SHOWS DIFFERENT WAYS TO EXIT THE PROPERTY SIX WAYS TO EXIT AND GO NORTH WITH FIVE WAYS TO EXIT AND GO SOUTH. STAFF HAS REDUCED HOURS OF OPERATION AT THE END OF EVENTS DUE TO CONCERNS WITH A LIGHT POLLUTION FOR THE NEARBY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. HAVE CAREFULLY CONSIDERED THAT AND ANALYZED PROPERTY AND FOUND THE FOLLOWING. FIRST FLOOR OF THE NORTHERN BUILDING IS A PARKING GARAGE WHICH NATURALLY LIMITS LIGHT EXPOSURE. VEHICLES EXITING THE LOT ARE DIRECTED TOWARD A WALL WITH LIGHT METERS BEFORE TURNING SOUTH ON JOSEPH LANE MINIMIZING ANY DIRECT LIGHT ON

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UNTIL 1:00 A.M. AFTER OFFICE HOURS AND SATURDAY 10:00 YOU UNTIL 1:00 AND SUNDAY 10:00 UNTIL MIDNIGHT, THIS SCHEDULE IS ESSENTIAL AND JUSTIFIED . VENDORS NEED TIME FOR SET UP AND TEAR DOWN, EVENTS WILL NEVER EXCEED SEVEN HOURS IN TOTAL AND IN PRACTICE ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF GUESTS REMAIN UNTIL THE FINAL HOUR OF ANY EVENT. FINALLY IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SEP FOR ANOTHER EVENT SPACE THAT IS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AND HOURS OF OPERATION ARE UNTIL 1:00 A.M. ON THE WEEKDAYS AND THIS EVENT SPACE WILL BE RIGHT BEHIND RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE REQUESTING THE SAME CONSIDERATION TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS BUT WE HAVE ADJUSTED HOURS TO ACCOMMODATE NEARBY BUSINESSES, WE BELIEVE THIS BALANCES THE NEEDS OF BUSINESS WITH RESPECT OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. TO SUPPORT REQUEST FOR EXTENDED HOURS WE HAVE INCLUDED TIME STAMPED PHOTOS OF THE PARKING LOT DURING REQUESTED HOURS OF OPERATION. THIS ANGLE SHOWS THE PARKING LOT ON THE SOUTH IN FRONT OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS AND CLEARLY SHOWS THERE ARE NO CARS FURTHER BUILDINGS AFTER 4:30 P.M. ON FRIDAY THE GRAY CARS FROM ONE SALES ASSOCIATE AT THE STORE. THERE TWO PICTURES, ONE AT 4:30 AND THE OTHER AT 6:00 LEAD ON A FRIDAY. THERE IS A LOOK SATURDAY AT 9:00 AND 12:00.

THE PARKING LOT IS PRETTY MUCH EMPTY. THIS IS THE PARKING LOT ON SUNDAY AND 9:30 ON SUNDAY AND 12:30 P.M. VERY MUCH EMPTY. WE ARE RESPECTIVELY REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL HOUR OF ALCOHOL SERVICE WITHIN THE STIPULATION BASED ON EXPERIENCE THE CURRENT LIMITS RESTRICTIVE FOR THE INDUSTRY AND WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT ABILITY TO SERVE CLIENTS EFFECTIVELY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALCOHOL SERVICE IS ALREADY REGULATED BY THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION ONLY CERTIFIED BARTENDERS ARE PERMITTED TO SERVE WITH STRICT GUIDELINES AND SERVING TIMES ARE MANDATED AND ENFORCEABLE AND IN PRACTICE MOST VENUES ALLOW FOR ABOUT SIX HOURS OF SERVICE WHICH MATCHES THE NATURAL FLOW OF EVENTS OF 5 TO 7 HOURS FROM CEREMONY THROUGH DINNER AND DANCING. A FOUR HOUR CAP WILL CUT SERVICE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EVENT, THIS MAY NOT ONLY FRUSTRATE CLIENTS AND GUESTS BUT COULD HARM REPUTATION AND ENCOURAGE CUSTOMERS TO CHOOSE VENUES IN OTHER CITIES THAT IMPACT WAS BEYOND BUSINESS AND MEANS LESS ALCOHOL PURCHASE LOCALLY, FEWER CELEBRATIONS IN CARROLLTON AND ULTIMATELY LOST TAX REVENUE. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING UNUSUAL JUST A MODEST EXTENSION THAT ALIGNS WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND INTEREST THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS STAY HERE IN CARROLLTON. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING TO EXTEND A CALL SERVICE FROM FOUR HOURS TO FIVE HOURS STOPPING ONE HOUR BEFORE

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EVENTS ARE MANAGED UNDER STREET CONTRACTS AND CLEAR POLICY FOR CLIENTS AND GUESTS TO ENSURE A SAFE AND RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE RECEIVED MANY LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THE NEW MENU PROPOSAL, INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES HAVE PERSONAL EXPENSE HOSTING EVENTS WITH US AND THE FEEDBACK REFLECTS NOT ONLY SATISFACTION WITH SERVICES , BUT ALSO ENTHUSIASM ABOUT POSITIVE IMPACT THAT THIS NEW LOCATION COULD BRING TO CARROLLTON. THIS IS MORE THAN HE KNEW EVEN SPACE IT IS OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE LONG-TERM ECONOMIC VALUE, GENERATING SALES TAX FROM BOOKINGS, CATERING, SUPPLY AND PURCHASES FOR INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY INCREASING ASSESSED VALUE CONTRIBUTED TO HER PROPERTY AND SCHOOL TAXES, EVENTS DRIVE BUSINESS BENEFITING NEARBY HOTELS , GROCERY STORES AND PHARMACIES TO INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC AND REVENUE. WE HAVE A STRONG NETWORK OF LOCAL CARROTS AND VENDORS FROM CATERS TO PHOTOGRAPHERS, THIS VENUE WILL CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM KEEPING ECONOMIC ACTIVITY LOCAL AND STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS. WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM SOME OF THESE LOCAL VENDORS WHO SEE HOW THE SUPPORT FOR BUSINESS AND BOOST ACTIVITY THESE VENDORS UNDERSTAND THE VALUE EVENT VENUES BRING TO THE INDUSTRY AS VENUES ARE THE HIGHEST POINT OF CLIENT REFERRAL AND WE ARE INCLUDING A LETTER FROM WALGREENS STORE MANAGER NEXT DOOR WHO NOTED INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC FROM EVENTS WOULD BENEFIT THEIR STORE ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS. WE HAVE HAD A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MARRIOTT HOTEL IN CARROLLTON FOR MANY YEARS, WITH THIS LOCATION WE WOULD CONTINUE REFERRING CLIENTS TO THE HOTEL STRENGTHENING A PARTNERSHIP, THEIR SUPPORT SHOWS THIS WOULD BE PART OF A NETWORK OF LOCAL BUSINESSES WORKING TOGETHER TO DRIVE POSITIVE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY IMPACT TO CARROLLTON. THIS VENUE WOULD MEET THE NEED FOR SMALLER EVENTS AND IT WOULD CELEBRATE CARROLLTON'S CULTURAL DIVERSITY. WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING THE VENUE TO CARROLLTON A SPACE WITH UNIQUE HIGH END FARMHOUSE DESIGN THAT DOES NOT EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY FOCUSING ON PERSONALIZED EXPERIENCES, EVERY DETAIL MATTERS FROM THE CORE TO THE SERVICE, THE GOAL IS AFFORDABLE LUXURY SO LOCAL FAMILIES DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE CARROLLTON TO FIND A MEMORABLE VENUE, IN SHORT THE VENUE IS NOT JUST FILLING A GAP IT'S BRINGING MORE PEOPLE INTO CALTON, BOOSTING THE CITY APPEAL. IN CLOSING, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR LETTING US SHARE OUR VISION.

THIS PROJECT IS NOT JUST A BUSINESS, IT IS OUR PASSION AND EXPERIENCE COMING TOGETHER TO CREATE A SAFE AND WELCOMING SPACE WHERE FAMILIES AND GROUPS CAN CELEBRATE LIFE'S IMPORTANT MOMENTS. WERE HAPPY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ALIGNS WITH GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS, WITH THAT WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

>> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? OTHERWISE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILMEMBER

CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU, I WONDER AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF NEEDS HELP, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR PARKING SPACES AND THE REQUIREMENTS NOTED VERSUS WHAT STAFF HAS HAD. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?

>> THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES? >> YOU INDICATED 57 AND STAFF

INDICATED 54. >> BASED ON THE PARKING STUDY WE CONDUCTED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS 57.

>> ALL RIGHT AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT STAFF INDICATED IN THE 125 SQUARE FOOT , ONE PARKING SPACE DID YOU NOTICE THAT MR. SHAPIRO?

SEEMS LIKE HE HAD FEWER. >> REMEMBER A COUPLE THINGS HERE THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES ONE SPACE PER 125 WITH A 5077 SQUARE FEET PROPOSED WITH THE EVENT CENTER REQUIRING 41 PARKING SPACES HOWEVER, THE STUDY PROVIDED AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AS THEY CONCLUDED 50 SPACE IS NEEDED SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. MR. MENDOZA I UNDERSTAND TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR ASKING FOR CHANGE TO STIPULATION NUMBER THREE REGARDING THE HOURS AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR A CHANGE TO

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>> CORRECT. >> I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

>> IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IF YOU NOTICE THE 50 PARKING SPACES SHOWS WILL BE USED IF OTHER BUILDINGS WERE OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME BASED ON CURRENT USE.

>> OKAY I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. TRENTON.

>> YOU ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING A BANQUET HALL NOW YOU ARE ASKING FOR EVEN SPACE, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF

ATTENDANCE? HOW MUCH CAPACITY ? >> WITH THE CURRENT ONE WE OPERATE IS 250. SO OUR EVENTS MORE THAN 100 WILL BE BASICALLY ALL FOR THE OTHER SPACE. IT IS NOT THE SAME SPACE.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PALOMO.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, MR. MENDOZA THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED STUDY AND YOUR COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING, YOUR THOROUGH INVESTIGATION AND THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BRING THIS BUSINESS TO CARROLLTON. MY QUESTION IS IN REGARD TO THE PARKING SPACES. IT LOOKS LIKE THE PARKING STUDY SAYS THAT ARE ANTICIPATING HOURS OF OPERATION ARE ONLY GOING TO BE IN DIRECT OPPOSITION OF WHAT THE EXISTING OTHER LOTS ARE GOING TO HAVE? SO YOU ARE GOING ON THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO OPEN WHEN YOU ARE

OPEN? >> WE ARE ADJUSTING HOURS SO WE

DO INTERVIEW WITH THEIR CURRENT. >> SO YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE ONLY GOING TO BE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AFTER 6:00 P.M.

>> FRIDAY AFTER 5:00 P.M. AND SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

>> OKAY. SO, THE SPACE WILL NOT BE USED AT ALL DURING THE DAY

MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? >> NOT FOR EVENTS.

>> SO, THEN IT WOULD BE A MULTI-USE SPACE?

>> OKAY WHEN I SAY NOT FOR EVENTS, IT'S MORE FOR LIKE OTHER THINGS RELATED TO THE EVENTS LIKE SHOWINGS, TOURS, APPOINTMENTS, BASICALLY APPOINTMENTS WITH CLIENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT NOT FOR EVENTS.

>> SO WE'RE GOING ON THE SOLE IDEA THAT WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT PLANNED FOR 125 PEOPLE, AND YOUR VENUE, THE OTHER BUSINESSES CANNOT BE OPENED BECAUSE THERE WILL NOT BE ANY PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE FOR THEM? BECAUSE YOUR BUSINESS WILL BE UTILIZING ALL

THE PARKING SPACES? >> NO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING STUDY WE REQUIRE PER CITY ORDINANCE WE REQUIRE 41 PARKING SPACES BASED ON THE PARKING RATIO AND I WAS CONFIRMED DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING TRANSPORTATION. SO IF THERE ARE 57, THERE ARE 16 LEFT. EVEN AT

FULL CAPACITY. >> IF WE GO WITH YOUR PARKING STUDY WHICH INDICATED 50 SPACE IS REQUIRED , BASED ON YOUR PARKING STUDY 50, THERE ARE 52 SPACES PER THE PLAT. IN THERE

ARE ONLY TWO SPACES? >> I DO HAVE SOMEONE HERE WHO CONDUCTED THE PARKING STUDY THAT CAN ELABORATE MORE ON THAT.

>> OKAY ALL RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE THAT PERSON WHO CAN SPEAK TO THE PARKING STUDY THAT'S FINE OR THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I GUESS I AM ON THE HOT SEAT. WE WERE ASKED TO DO A PARKING STUDY BASED ON CITY STAFF COMMENTS ON THE VENUE NOT BEING A REQUIREMENT, THEY WERE SAYING 41 SPACES ARE NEEDED FOR THE USE PERMITTED. IT REALLY

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RIDESHARE CAME ABOUT IN 2009 -2010. MY OPINION IT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE THAT IF I'M GOING TO A WEDDING OR WHATEVER KIND OF EVENT WE ARE HOSTING IT IS NOT CONSIDERING THAT. SO THAT'S MY STANCE. THAT'S WHERE I AM COMING FROM.

>> OKAY. COUNCIL, FOR THE QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO CONFIRM SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT SAYS HERE THE BUILDING WOULD BE CONVERTED TO 5000 SQUARE-FOOT VENUE FROM 3000 THAT IT CURRENTLY IS? TRYING TO CONFIRM.

>> IT IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING AND WE REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BY REMOVING THE SECOND FLOOR PART OF THE SECOND FLOOR. TURNED UP WITH 5000 SQUARE FEET 5077 NOTED HERE.

>> OKAY MR. SHAPIRO I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, I THOUGHT THE DOCUMENTS WE GOT FROM PLANNING AND ZONING SAID 3000 SQUARE

FEET, I COULD BE MISTAKE. >> 5077.

>> THERE ARE TWO STORIES, OVERALL 5077 SQUARE FEET . WHAT

THEY UTILIZE FOR THE EVENT. >> AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE OTHER OFFICE BUILDINGS , THERE IS NO RESTRICTION ON WHEN THEY CAN UTILIZE THE PARKING SO IF SOMEBODY IN THE ADJACENT OFFICE BUILDINGS HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON, ON A SATURDAY THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT FROM THE ZONING.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, THERE'S NO REGULATION TO PREVENT THEM.

>> IN FACT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND THERE'S NOTHING THE CITY CAN DO FROM REZONING STANDPOINT.

>> IF THIS IS CORRECTED THAT'S CORRECT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING. >> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT WAS WELL PUT TOGETHER AND VERY THOROUGH, IF I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING I DON'T AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. I VISITED YOUR OTHER LOCATION BEFORE, REALLY NICE INSIGHT IS THAT THE SAME TYPE OF

THING WITH THE NEW LOCATION? >> YES OR.

>> SHOULD BE A GREAT EVENT. YOU MADE A COUPLE REQUESTS REGARDING ALCOHOL SALES YOU WANT TO EXTEND ANOTHER HOUR?

>> NOT FOR ALCOHOL SALES JUST FOR TIME ALCOHOL CAN BE SERVED DURING THE EVENT. STEVIE STAFF HAD DIED AT FOUR HOURS SO I AM REQUESTING ONE ADDITIONAL HOUR FOR A CALL TO BE SERVED. WE DO

NOT SELL IT. >> NUMBER THREE GOES UNTIL 1:00 A.M. AND NUMBER EIGHT GOES FROM FOUR HOURS, TO FIVE HOURS?

>> CORRECT. >> THE REASON FOR THE LIMITATION ON THE LATE HOURS HAD BEEN BECAUSE OF THE LIGHT POLLUTION .

WE HAVE REQUESTED 1:00 A.M. INITIALLY SO THEY LIMITED THAT BECAUSE OF LIGHT POLLUTION BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THERE WILL BE LIKE POLLUTION FROM THE EVENTS.

>> GOTCHA. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

>> OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER.

>> THANK YOU, CLARIFICATION ON STIPULATION NUMBER THREE ON THE HOURS I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY FROM 5:00 P.M. UNTIL 1:00 A.M.

>> THAT IS ON FRIDAY. >> FRIDAYS START AT 5:00 END AT

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>> SATURDAY 10:00 A.M. UNTIL 1:00 P.M. AND SUNDAY 10:00 OR

P.M. UNTIL MIDNIGHT. >> THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE STIPULATIONS SO LET'S BE CLEAR ITEMS THEY SHOULD READ EVEN RECEPTION HOURS LIMITED TO FRIDAY , THIS IS THE REQUEST NOT

THE STIPULATION AS WRITTEN. >> 5:00 UNTIL 1:00 FRIDAY, 10:00 UNTIL 1:00 SATURDAY AND THEN SUNDAY 10:00 UNTIL MIDNIGHT. THE REASON FOR THAT IS SO WE CAN ALLOW FOR ANY VENDORS TO SET UP BEFORE THE EVENT STARTS. WE CAN OPERATE ONLY 6:00 P.M. WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE IF VENDORS ARE COMING IN TO SET UP BEFORE THE EVENT STARTS AND FOR THE POTENTIAL EVENTS THAT MAY TAKE PLACE EARLIER IN THE DAY SUCH AS BABY SHOWERS, THOSE ARE USUALLY ON SUNDAYS. FROM 12:00 UNTIL 5:00 SO YOU KNOW JUST TO HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING THAT IF POSSIBLE. WE WOULD NOT TO MORE THAN TWO EVENTS PER DAY SO WE

HAVE ONE EVENT. >> I THINK THE QUESTION AGAIN WAS TO MAKE SURE THIS REFLECTS WHAT YOU'RE WANTING AS OPPOSED TO WHATEVER FLEX BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT.

>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. MY LAST COMMENT AND I AM A STICK WITH FOR DETAILS. WHEN I AM LOOKING AT THE DUNAWAY MAP FOR PARKING, IT APPEARS , I DON'T A PROPERTY LINES, NO SURVEY, IT APPEARS YOU ARE TAKING THREE SPACES FROM THE RETIREMENT HOME SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY SO I WANTED TO NOTE I BELIEVE THEY'RE PROBABLY REALLY ARE ONLY 54 SPACES IN THIS PROPERTY NOT 57 AND IF YOU'RE EVENT CENTER PER YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRES FIVE, OR 50 THAT LEAVES SEVEN. AND I WILL NOTE THAT AND MAKE COMMENTS FOR LETTER.

>> THIS PICTURE YOU HAVE THAT YOU PASSED OUT, IT JOGS INTO THE RETIREMENT HOME VERSUS GOING STRAIGHT TOWARD JOSEY LANE.

>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR REBUTTAL BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE MOVE ON TO A PUBLIC HEARING. WITH NO OBJECTION I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE SEVERAL CARDS. MY FIRST CARD IS SUPPORT. MY NEXT CARD IS FROM FAVOR.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS ONE THAT HAS ATTENDED AND HOSTED EVENTS AT THE CURRENT VENUE I CAN SAY THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND NOT JUST TO PROVIDE SPACE BUT CREATE A LASTING MEMORY WITH ATTENTION TO DETAIL, KINDNESS AND PROFESSIONALISM ARE UNMATCHED. EVERY TIME WE HAVE BEEN THERE MY FAMILY AND GUESTS WALK AWAY FEEL CARED FOR AND APPRECIATED WHICH IS VERY RARE AND IT MATTERS. EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A CARROLLTON RESIDENT THE CITY IS A PLACE WHERE WE CHOOSE TO GET TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THEM. IT IS CLOSE AND COMFORTABLE, MOST IMPORTANTLY FEELS LIKE HOME. HAVING A SMALLER FULLY DESIGNED VENUE LIKE THIS WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS GIFT TO NOT JUST FAMILIES LIKE MINE, BUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, THERE IS A NEED FOR ACCESSIBLE HIGH-QUALITY EVENT SPACES. NOT EVERY FAMILY CAN AFFORD OR EVEN NEEDS OR WANTS A LARGER HALL OR VENUE.

SOME OF US JUST WANT A WARM SMALLER WELCOMING PLACE TO CELEBRATE LIFE'S MOMENTS WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE ACROSS TOWN OR COMPROMISING ON QUALITY. THIS PROJECT SUPPORTS LOCAL FAMILIES AND SMALL BUSINESSES. IT WILL BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER FAMILIES FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS A PLACE TO CONNECT AND CELEBRATE MOMENTS. I BELIEVE IN THIS VISION AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT.

PLEASE APPROVE THE PERMIT FOR THEM AND THE COMMUNITY IS READY TO USE AND CHERISH THIS PLACE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MY NEXT CARD IS FROM

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>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS GLORIA HERNANDEZ AND I OPERATE THE CURRENT RETAIL STORE AT THE 2129 LOCATION. THE SUBJECT WHERE WE ARE REQUESTING SPECIAL USE PERMIT. JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN PROUD TO SERVE CARROLLTON, THE CARROLLTON COMMUNITY. WE HAVE LOVED QUALITY PRODUCTS AND BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL FAMILIES, LIKE MANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WE FELT THE CHALLENGES OF A CHANGING RETAIL LANDSCAPE. LOW ONLINE PRICES, RISING DISTRIBUTOR COSTS AND IMPORTS HAVE MADE IT HARDER TO SUSTAIN OUR STORE IN THE TRADITIONAL WAY. WE HAVE HAD TO RECONSIDER HOW TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS. ALONGSIDE THE RETAIL STORE I AM ALSO HANDS-ON WITH THE CURRENT EVENT VENUE AS DECORATOR AND PLANNER. THROUGH THAT WORK I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW STRONG THE DEMAND IS FOR SMALL EVENT SPACES, GATHERINGS OF 50 TO 100 GUESTS. REPURPOSE IN OUR BUILDING WITH A SMALL EVENT VENUE WOULD BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THE SPACE AND ALLOW US TO CONTINUE SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN A SUSTAINABLE AND MEANINGFUL WAY. HELPING FAMILIES CELEBRATE LIFE'S MOST IMPORTANT MOMENTS IS SOMETHING I TRULY LOVE. I ENJOY CREATING PERSONALIZED DECORATIONS, BRINGING CLIENT VISIONS TO LIFE AND MAKING EVERY GUEST FEEL WELCOMED AND VALUED. WHILE IT IS BITTERSWEET TO TRANSITION OUT OF OUR LONG-STANDING RETAIL STORE WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER SOMETHING EVEN GREATER. AS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF OUR STORE I CAN TELL YOU THE PARKING LOT IS MOSTLY EMPTY ON WEEKENDS AND AFTER 5:00 LEAD ON WEEKDAYS EXCEPT FOR OUR OWN CUSTOMERS. SO YOU KNOW WE WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES . WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF, PLANNING AND ZONING AND OUR NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED AND RESPECTFULLY HANDLED. THIS PROJECT IS MORE THAN JUST A BUSINESS CHANGE. IT IS A WAY TO REINVEST IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS SUPPORTED US FOR SO MANY YEARS. WE BELIEVE THAT THE NEW VENUE WILL MEET A REAL LOCAL, CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES AND KEEP OUR PROPERTY VIBRANT AND PURPOSEFUL. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE VALUES THAT HAVE GUIDED US FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. CARROLLTON IS PART OF WHO WE ARE, OUR ROOTS RUN DEEP HERE AND WE TRULY LOVE BEING PART OF THE CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU, MY NEXT CARD IS FOR AARON INGLE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

>> MY NAME IS AARON INGLE A RESIDENT OF ADDISON, TEXAS. I AM A PARTNER WITH THE REAL ESTATE BROKER AND I'M THE REAL ESTATE BROKER WHO REPRESENT THE REPRESENTATIVES. JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT, YOU HAVE THREE LOTS AND A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THERE ARE BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE FOR EVERYBODY. ONE ARGUMENT MADE WAS PRETTY DAMNING AND FOR MORE CONTEXT YEAR, THAT ARCING LOT IF IT IS MONDAY WORTH OF VIDEO CAMERAS A WEEK A MONTH OR YEAR I SUSPECT YOU WILL SEE , THE LOT IS NOT USED , THE PARKING LOT IS NOT THERE A LOT OF DECISIONS WILL BE MADE ON THE UTILITY OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY AND COMMUNITY. UNDERSTAND WITH

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>> THIS IS NOT Q&A. WE HAVE A LETTER . SO OKAY SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN YOUR DECISION IS NOT EASY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR ALL PARTIES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> NEXT CARD AS ADVERTISED IS KIMBERLY LLOYD.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MY NAME IS KIMBERLY LLOYD AND I LIVE IN ADDISON, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY IN REGARDS TO SUPPORTING OSCAR AND GLORIA WITH THE EVENT CENTER, THIS SPACE IS DEDICATED TO SERVING THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY OF CARROLLTON AND OTHER NEARBY COMMUNITIES. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE THEM. THEIR VISION IS GREATER VIBRANT INCLUSIVE VENUE SUPPORTING EVENTS FROM BABY SHOWERS TO BIRTHDAYS TO WEDDINGS AND WE HAVE KNOWN GLORIA FOR MANY YEARS, THERE DEDICATED UPSTANDING CITIZENS, THEY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, LOCAL VENDORS AND BUSINESSES AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE THEM. WE ARE SEEKING CITY SUPPORT, THE VENUE IS MORE THAN A VENUE IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN CARROLLTON'S SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC VITALITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THEM BEING A VALUABLE ASSET TO THE CITY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

AND ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU MY NEXT CARD IS FROM STEPHANIE APOLOGIES. WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR .

>> GOOD EVENING, I AM THE OWNER OF PINK LADY TEXAS SUPPLIER FOR GLORIA AND OSCAR AS WELL AS SURROUNDING VENUES IN CARROLLTON AND THE DFW. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FIVE YEARS AND THROUGHOUT THIS TIME WE CAN ATTEST TO THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, INTEGRITY AND DEDICATION WITH WHICH GLORIA AND OSCAR RUN THEIR BUSINESS. HAVE BEEN FUNDAMENTAL IN THE GROWTH OF MY COMPANY PROVIDING A STEADY FLOW OF CUSTOMERS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THIS LOCATION WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EXPAND BUSINESS AND PROVIDE WITH EXCELLENT SERVICE THEY ARE KNOWN FOR TO WIDEN THEIR CUSTOMER BASE CREATING ANOTHER SOURCE OF REVENUE WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY. WE FULLY SUPPORT THE NEW ENDEAVOR.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH NEXT CARD IS FROM JEFF TAYLOR. YOU ALREADY SPOKE, YOU'RE FREE TO MAKE ANOTHER STATE SPOT YES SIR THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

LOOKING ON GOOGLE STATED EARLIER THE 54 SPACES LOOKING BACK ON STREET YOU THERE ARE THREE SPACES ADDED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE GATED ENTRY TO THE FACILITY TO THE SOUTH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY OR OUR.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS OUR PROPERTY BY THE MONUMENT SIGN SO AGAIN 57 SPACES AND WHEN WE DID THE REPORT IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY FOR WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE AND WHAT'S GOING FORWARD. AGAIN BASED ON 25 IT'S 41 SPACES NEEDED . JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE CLARIFICATION. ASK

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IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION. >> THIS IS NOT Q&A TIME.

APPRECIATE YOUR STATEMENT AND MY LAST CARD IS TY WILLIAMS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

>> THANK YOU. LET'S DO THIS. I WILL MAKE IT QUICK AND SHORT.

FIRST, MY NAME IS TY WILLIAMS AND I'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY IN CARROLLTON AND IT IS A GOOD ONE NOT A BAD ONE. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS, FIRST OFF IT IS LATE. IT IS 9:00 COME I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, MAYOR I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, COUNCILMEMBERS, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. I KNOW THIS IS A TOUGH JOB AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. I AM A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND MY WIFE AND I OWN A SUCCESSFUL REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE , WE HAVE AGENTS ALL ACROSS THE METROPLEX INCLUDING QUITE A FEW IN YOUR AREA. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS CHAIRMAN FOR THE BROKER RESPONSIBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE TEXAS REAL ESTATE COMMISSION HOWEVER, I AM NOT SPEAKING IN THAT CAPACITY TODAY I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. IS A FORMER CARROLLTON RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER AS WELL AS A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN CARROLLTON HAVE SEEN CARROLLTON COME A VERY LONG WAY YET MAINTAIN ITS IDENTITY AS A FAMILY AND BUSINESS FRIENDLY PLACE WHICH IS VERY TRUE. IT IS A GREAT PLACE I LOVE TO COME HERE AND EAT, I LOVE DOWNTOWN IT IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE. I REMEMBER WHEN JOSEY RANCH WAS ACTUALLY RANCH WITH MESQUITE TREES. WE WERE ALL SAD TO SEE A CHANGE AND IF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH YOU HAVE ALL HAD THE SAME FEELING AS WELL. IT HAD TO CHANGE FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT HAD TO MAKE AN EVOLUTION AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT TIME HAS COME AGAIN. IT'S TIME FOR IT TO EVOLVE AND MOVE FORWARD AND PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE TRULY USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZED. I MYSELF AM A CLIENT AND I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE HOSTED COMPANY TRAININGS THERE, COMPANY EVENTS AT THE OTHER LOCATION AND IT IS TOP-NOTCH, TOP-QUALITY. NOT JUST TALKING SOMEPLACE YOU SHOW UP AND IT'S GOING TO BE RIFFRAFF, THEY PROVIDE A GOOD QUALITY EVENT CENTER AND THEY DO IT WELL AND RUN IT WELL LIKE PROFESSIONALS AND THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS QUITE FRANKLY. OVER THE YEARS I HAVE HOSTED THESE EVENTS. WE MENTIONED BABY SHOWERS, HE'S RIGHT WE HOSTED OUR BABY SHOWER THERE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 12:00 UNTIL 4:00 P.M. AND IT WAS GREAT COME A GOOD TIME PROBABLY THE BEST BABY SHOWER I HAVE EVER BEEN TO. I KNOW YOU HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS. WHAT I BELIEVE AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE FOR YOUR CITIZENS AND FOR THE FUTURE REALLY DO MATTER. MY BELIEF IS MAKING THIS AN EVENTS VENUE DOES MAKE SENSE. PARKING YES IS A CONCERN BUT IT IS THERE. YOU CAN MAKE THAT EXCEPTION. IT'S YOUR CHOICE.

PERSONALLY I HAVE BEEN A CLIENT OF OSCAR AND GLORIA OVER THE YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY RUN A VERY SOLID AND TOP-NOTCH BUSINESS. I HAVE HOSTED LARGE COMPANY EVENTS THERE AND EACH EVENT WAS HANDLED WITH CARE AND PROFESSIONALISM. THIS IS A INTIMATE AND HIGH END VENUE. IT WOULD BE ASSET TO THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS. NOT JUST ANOTHER VENUE, BUT A PLACE TO GO, A DESTINATION. THIS IS MY VOTE OF SUPPORT OF THIS SMALL BUSINESS WITH THIS FAMILY RUN BUSINESS NOT JUST AS A CLIENT BUT AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AS WELL I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR

TIME. >> THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS? COME ON UP.

>> MY NAME IS DAVID WILLIAMS OF 2121 NORTH JOSEY AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE NEW EVENT CENTER BEING PROPOSED. PICTURE THIS HEADLINE. CARROLLTON GETS NEW EVENT CENTER. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT SUPPORTING BUSINESS IN CARROLLTON? WE SUPPORT BUSINESS IN CARROLLTON. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE COUNCIL SUPPORTING BUSINESS? GOOD JOB WE ARE LOOKING FOR A VOTE OF YES.

>> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. COUNCIL I WILL REMIND YOU, YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 2125 . IF YOU DON'T RECALL,

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IS YOUR FREEFORM STATEMENT. >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY 5484 SQUARE FEET.

WE WILL BE REDUCING TO 5077 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. WHEN YOU DIVIDE THAT FOR THE PARKING RATIO THE CITY REQUIRES FOR EVENT SPACES WHICH IS ONE PER 125, WE REQUIRE 41. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO MONOPOLIZE THE PARKING LOT, LIKE I SAID EARLIER WE'RE WILLING TO BLOCK SPACES FOR OTHER NEIGHBORS IF NECESSARY. I JUST HOPE YOU CONSIDER THE BENEFITS THIS BRINGS TO THE CITY AND A CITY WE ENJOY DOING BUSINESS WITH. WE HAVE BEEN PART OF FOR MANY YEARS AND WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

>> OKAY COUNCIL, YOU HEARD FROM SOME OF THE SPEAKERS, THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS AND THEY ARE HARD DECISIONS. THIS IS A LAND USE DISCUSSION . THAT WAS A GORGEOUS LOOKING FACILITY AND CERTAINLY A PLACE I COULD ENVISION AN EVENT TAKING PLACE. FROM A LAND-USE PERSPECTIVE YOU AS A COUNCIL SHOULD BE LOOKING FROM A LAND-USE PERSPECTIVE AND CONSIDERATION. AND PARKING IS ONE OF THOSE LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY LIGHTS TO SPEAK BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT OR ANYONE ELSE THEN I INVITE YOU TO WEIGH IN OTHERWISE I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING.

>> YES SIR. FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. MENDOZA FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. WHEN I REFLECT BACK ON WHAT IT USED TO BE, REMEMBER IN 1980 DOING A FUNDRAISER WHEN OLD MAN JOSEY HAD A FUNDRAISER FOR PAT ROBERTSON. I WAS OUT THERE SERVING ICED TEA AND HANDING OUT BARBECUE PLATES. TO SEE THAT AESTHETIC BEAUTIFUL WHAT USED TO BE BECOMING WHAT IT IS NOW AND THEN HAVE YOU COME PROPOSED THIS IDEA TO THE NEXT GENERATION THINGS CHANGE IT'S NOT THE OLD MAN JOSEY RANCH THAT USED TO BE.

2025 I THINK WHAT YOU PROPOSED WAS A GREAT CONCEPT. I THINK IT MEETS ALL THE DEFINITIONS. I THINK IT MAKES GOOD ECONOMIC SENSE FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITY AS WELL AND YOU LOOK AT TAX REVENUE. SO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

>> VERY GOOD. COUNCIL, PRO-BUSINESS AND LAND-USE ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE SO I WELCOME DISCUSSION OTHERWISE I

WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT I WANT TO VOICE THE CONCERNS AS FAR AS RIGHTS OF OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS USING THE PARKING LOT PARKING LOT. THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS LIVE IN PERPETUITY. MEANING THIS USE IN THE FUTURE BEYOND 2025 PERHAPS NOT GOING AS FAR BACK AS JOSEY RANCHE BUT INTO THE FUTURE THE LAND-USE WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON WITH THAT. WITH THE EMPOWERMENT AND LESS RESTRICTION WITH THAT PARTICULAR LAND-USE. I REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT INFRINGING ON THE RIGHTS OF EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS, HOW THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE PARKING LOT SPACE IN THE FUTURE WHICH IS SHARED AND AS MUCH AS I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE BUSINESS FROM A LAND-USE STANDPOINT I DON'T SEE THIS AS THE RIGHT SPACE FOR THE SIZE OF EVENTS I WANT TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE ZONING PURPOSE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I WANT

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>> COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SHAPIRO OR STAFF. WITH THE SUP WHEN GRANTED AND IT GOES WITH LAND-USE AND SEE THE PROPERTY OWNER CHANGES IN THE FUTURE OR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS CHANGE, WHEN IS IT EVER OR DOES IT EVER, COULD IT EVER HAPPENED THE SUP COULD BE REMOVED.

>> IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY TO BE REPEALED AND REPLACED BUT IT STAYS WITH THE LAND REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP

CHANGES. >> YOU BRING THOSE PERIODICALLY FOR ABANDONED USE, SO TO SPEAK. WHENEVER TAKE USE AWAY FROM SOMEBODY EXERCISING YEARS WHETHER THE CURRENT OWNER OR FUTURE OWNERS. AS LONG AS THEY OPERATE UNDER THE SUP, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE, THERE IS NO TIME BOUND NATURE?

>> NO. TO THE POINTS MADE , DECISIONS ARE NOT ABOUT MR. MENDOZA THE DECISIONS ARE LAND-USE RELATIVE TO THE PARCELS IN FRONT OF US. AND THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THEY ARE TOUGH DISCUSSIONS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHERWISE? IF THERE IS A QUESTION WE WILL CALL YOU BACK UP. COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. AFTER HEARING ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I WANT TO SAY THAT WE HEAR YOU AND RETAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CAREFUL CONSIDERATION WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I AM FEELING LIKE THAT AREA, I KNOW THE STUDY DONE AND PICTURES TAKEN SHOW THAT IS KIND OF AN EMPTY LOT FOR THE MOST PART. I LIVE NEARBY SO I DRIVE DOWN JOSEY LANE OFTEN. AT LEAST 10 TIMES A WEEK AND I CAN SAY I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY VEHICLES THERE. I HAVE NOTICED THERE IS A FORMAL BOUTIQUE THERE AND IT IS A NICHE MARKET SO I'VE NEVER HAD THE NEED TO GO INTO ONE OF THE STARS, BUT I DO WELCOME THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT YOUR BUSINESS TO CARROLLTON. SO I AM THANKFUL FOR THAT. WHAT I SEE HERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR SOME REVITALIZATION OF THAT CORNER , THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF JOSEY AND TRINITY MILLS. I THINK IT WOULD BE A WELCOME ADDITION , FOR THAT REASON, I KNOW THAT WHEN EVENTS ARE HELD, THOUGHTS ARE COMING TO MY MIND AND THE PARKING SPACES ARE MAY BE DETERMINED BASED ON CARPOOLING, AS WELL. WHEN I GO TO AN EVENT I'M NEVER GOING IN MY CAR ALONE. I AM ALWAYS TAKING MY FAMILY, HUSBAND, CHILDREN, SOMEONE WITH ME . SO FOR THE REASONS I HAVE STATED AND MORE THAN ANYTHING THE REVITALIZATION OF THE AREA AND BRINGING SOME

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>> COUNCIL MEMBER PALACIOS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE SUPERB PRESENTATION AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO CAME OUT THIS EVENING TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE GIVEN ME A LOT TO THINK ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW , I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE OF LAND FOR THE REASON I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT. THANK YOU.

>> I WILL REMIND YOU AS LAND USE IN ALL OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE FULL BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH. SO PARKING IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, WHETHER AT THAT RATE AND IMAGINE ALL OCCUPANTS HAVING THE SAME RATE OF PARKING. THERE ARE LIMITED SPACES THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER

WATTERS. >> WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF INFORMATION SO I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD IT RIGHT THE LAST STATEMENT MR. MENDOZA MADE HIS HE WILL REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE EVENT CENTER AND I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD THAT RIGHT OR IF IT

IS POSSIBLE. >> REDUCE THE SIZE? THE CAPACITY

WE CAN REDUCE THE CAPACITY. >> SO, FORGET THE 3000 THE REQUEST IS 5077 SQUARE FEET AND BASED ON THE PARKING REQUIRES 50 OR 41 SPACES. THE , THERE PARKING STUDY SAYS THEY NEED 50

OF THE 52 SPACES. >> BASED ON THE OLD SQUARE FOOTAGE, 5077 PER CITY REQUIREMENTS WE ONLY NEED 41.

>> SO I WANT TO CLARIFY. IF IT IS POSSIBLE AND YOU ARE WILLING TO REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, NOT THE CAPACITY IT DOES NOT

MATTER? >> THE ASK IS HERE. FOR A VENUE

SPACE OF 5077 SQUARE FEET. >> THAT WILL BE SUBJECT OF

ANOTHER. >> THE VENUE, AND ASK IS 5077 SQUARE FEET WITH THE HOURS REQUESTED ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY WITH DIFFERENT HOURS ON EACH DAY. AND REALLY IS IT APPROPRIATE LAND-USE GIVEN THE EXISTING SUP WITH THE OTHER

OCCUPANTS GIVEN THE SUP. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER PALOMO.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 21 CASE NUMBER PLS UPA 2025-101 CARROLLTON EVENT CENTER.

COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THE

MOTION. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALOMO AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE TO PROVIDE A NUMBER 21 2025-101 CARROLLTON EVENT CENTER. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER.

>> I WANT TO CONFIRM THE MOTION WILL BE AS STIPULATED MEANING CHANGES THAT THE OWNER ASKED FOR WILL NOT BE INCLUDED , THAT'S

WHAT YOU INTENDED? >> THE CASE REPORT HAS STIPULATIONS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS ASKED.

>> I'M OKAY WITH THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU

INTENDED TO DO. >> SO IF I DO AS STIPULATED,

>> YOU WOULD IDENTIFY THE CHANGES YOU ARE MAKING THE MOTION FOR IF YOU CHANGE ANYTHING OTHERWISE IT IS AS STIPULATED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

MAKE THE APPROPRIATE MOTION. >> OKAY THEN, CAN I?

>> CLARIFY YOUR MOTION. >> TO CLARIFY MY MOTION LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CHANGES OF THE HOURS FROM FRIDAY 5:00 UNTIL 1:00, SATURDAY 10:00 UNTIL 1:00 AND SUNDAY 10:00

UNTIL MIDNIGHT. >> AND THE ALCOHOL SERVING?

>> NO. I WOULD SAY WITHOUT , THE HOURS OF OPERATION CHANGE, YES NOT THE ADDITIONAL HOUR OF ALCOHOL.

>> FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, MY SECOND WAS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE.

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THE MOTION FAILS , COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING, COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE AND COUNCIL MEMBER PALOMO IN FAVOR AND THE BALANCE IN OPPOSITION. I'M SORRY, WE APPRECIATE AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK. WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL SPACE AND IDEA PROBABLY JUST NOT THE RIGHT

LOCATION. >> OKAY I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT

IN REGARDS TO THE NEIGHBOR. >> I'M SORRY, WE HAVE HEARD THE

CASE, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES OUR NORMAL AGENDA ITEMS AND TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 25 WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM, OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL TO DO SO. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS SUBMITTED. IF ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES GIVEN THE TIME. SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND WITH THAT WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED. WE WILL GO BACK TO WORK SESSION AND

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