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[***PRE-MEETING / EXECUTIVE SESSION***]

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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 23RD CARROLLTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I AM MAYOR PRO TEM CHRISTOPHER AXBERG, I'M SITTING IN FOR THE HONORABLE STEPHEN BABIC WHO IS OUT ON FAMILY BUSINESS. WE'RE GOING TO BE SKIPPING AROUND ON THE AGENDA IN THE WORK SESSION A LITTLE BIT, SO FOLLOW ALONG. IF I MISS ANYTHING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL THAT OUT IMMEDIATELY. THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE FUND. SO,

I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM

[***WORKSESSION***]

AND COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU FOR A VERY SHORT FEW MINUTES BEFORE WE BRING ABOUT CONSULTANTS, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK OVER THE CITY'S FINANCIAL LANDSCAPE, AND THEN GO OVER THE THINGS THAT HAVE BROUGHT US TO TODAY'S MEETING. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT CARROLLTON'S FUND STRUCTURE, WE'RE DIFFERENT AS A GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDS, GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE TAX RELATED, THAT'S HOW TYPICAL GOVERNMENT IS FUNDED, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT ENTERPRISE FUND. SO, ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE THINGS LIKE THE WATER UTILITY, THE GOLF COURSE, THE SOLID WASTE FUND. THAT WE PAY USER FEES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SERVICES REQUIRED. SO, TODAY, CARROLLTON HAS A SOLID WASTE FUND AND A GOLF FUND, THOSE INDIVIDUAL ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE FUNDED OUT OF USER FEES. WHEN COSTS GO UP, FEES GO UP, WHEN COSTS GO DOWN, THESE CAN GO DOWN, BUT THEY ALSO PAY FOR ALL THE CAPITAL, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S RELATED TO THOSE FEES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO CONSIDER, MANY OF YOU WERE VERY FOCUSED ON THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND THE SPECIAL SESSIONS THAT JUST PASSED. WE AS CARROLLTON NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS ON OUR CITY. SO, CURRENTLY, WE JUST FINISHED A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND A SPECIAL SESSION, AND THE LEGISLATURE IS FOCUSED ON LOWERING TAXES, AS IT CONTINUES TO WORK TOWARD THAT EFFORT, BUT IT'S ALSO FOCUSED ON THE STRUCTURE, FOCUSED ON BONDS, FOCUSED ON DRAINAGE. BECAUSE WE HAD SOME FLOODING IN THE STATE, AS YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH. THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE IMPACTED US IN THE PAST, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT US IN THE FUTURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY IMPACT US IS THE CAPS ON AD VALOREM, THAT CAME BACK IN THE SPECIAL SESSION. SO, I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO COME BACK IN THE NEXT SESSION. SALES TAX, WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR LAWSUIT, RELATED TO THE 3.334, SO SALES-TAX CONTINUES TO BE AFFECTED. THERE'S AN ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN THAT, YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMY AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE RISK OF LOSS OF REVENUE FOR ECONOMIC SLOWDOWNS, INFLATION IS OBVIOUSLY A FACTOR, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THINGS COST FIVE YEARS AGO AND YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY COST TODAY, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUR UPCOMING BOND MEANS, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF PLANNING FOR OUR BOND ELECTION, SO OUR CPAP COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO OUR BOND ELECTION AND WHAT MIGHT WE NEED TO FUND THROUGH OUR NEXT BOND ELECTION. ALL OF THESE FACTORS ARE PART OF OUR OVERALL FINANCIAL. LET'S TALK ABOUT STORM WATER. WE HAD A VERY EXTENSIVE TIMELINE OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, THE STORM WATER, THE HIGH LEVEL ASSESSMENT WENT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON THE 13TH, THEY PROVIDED A HIGH LEVEL ASSESSMENT, AND RECEIVED THE THUMBS-UP TO BRING THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE BROUGHT THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 17TH, COUNCIL APPROVED THE FULL STUDY WITH FRIESE AND NICHOLS, ON JULY 29TH, IT WENT BACK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MADE PRELIMINARY SERVICE-LEVEL RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO BRING TO YOU HERE TODAY. THAT'S WHAT FRIESE AND NICHOLS IS GOING TO PRESENT ON TODAY. AFTER, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO MAKE THREE DECISION POINTS, WHAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, AND THEN, AFTER WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION WE WOULD GO TO THE PUBLIC IN NOVEMBER. THIS IS FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE NEXT OCTOBER. WHEN YOU'RE IMPLEMENT A NEW

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ENTERPRISE FUND YOU HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD, YOU HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD FOR ALL OF THE ACCOUNTING THINGS, PLAN AHEAD SO YOU CAN NOTIFY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, WE DO IT AND FLIP A SWITCH AND IT TURNS ON, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES THOROUGH THOUGHT, AND FERMENTATION STRATEGY. JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE, THAT IS EVERYBODY WHO CURRENTLY HAS A STORMWATER FEE TO PAY FOR DRAINAGE RELATED ISSUES. WE'RE SMACK IN THE MIDDLE, AND THE OTHER TWO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR THAT IS. YELLOWISH. THOSE ARE ONES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF ADDING IT, RIGHT NOW. SO, WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU DO THE FREESE AND NICHOLS PRESENTATION AND HEAR FROM THEM, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THREE DECISION POINTS, THERE'S SOME EXEMPTIONS THAT CAN STATUTORILY BE MADE AND THEY'RE LIMITED. WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE EXEMPTIONS? WHAT SERVICE-LEVEL DID WE WANT TO PROVIDE? DO WE WANT TO BEGIN THE ADVERTISEMENT PROCESS? I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TREY, AND TREY, IF YOU COULD GIVE US

YOUR WORDS OF WISDOM. >> THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU TONIGHT. HOPEFULLY WE STAY DRY THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, WE'VE GOT A STORM COMING IN RIGHT NOW. IT'S TOPICAL. I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH , FREESE AND NICHOLS, CONNOR IS ALSO HERE WITH US, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DIANE AND HER TEAM, I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS, A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, I'LL TRY NOT TO BELABOR POINTS TOO MUCH. BUT, THE KEY ON THIS IS KNOWING THAT YOU GOT IN FOR STRUCTURE THAT HAS A PURPOSE, ITS PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE, HELP DIVIDE FLOOD RELIEF, MINIMIZE EVENT CONVEYANCE, YOU'VE GOT A CHALLENGE WITH THAT, AND THERE'S WATER QUALITY ASPECTS , ALL VARIETY OF TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRES MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP, IMPROVEMENTS OVER TIME, THERE'S COSTS INHERENT WITH THAT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND COST RECOVERY APPROACHES, AND GET TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT DIANE WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO, HERE WE ARE TONIGHT. THIS IS WHAT DIANE WAS JUST SPEAKING TO. I WILL NOTE THAT THIS ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SUMMONED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. SO, THIS IS A MAP IN NORTH TEXAS OF CITIES IN YELLOW IS ACTIVELY IN THE PROCESS OF CONSIDERING ADOPTION , IN TEXAS STATE LAW HAS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED CITIES SINCE 1989 TO ESTABLISH THIS. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THEY'RE SO COMMON. IT'S BEEN AROUND A WHILE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION FOR IT, IT'S A DEDICATED FUNDING MECHANISM. THEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON STORMWATER RELATED COSTS. THIS CAN BE APPROPRIATED FOR OTHER PURPOSES. IT'S COMMONLY USED TO HELP WITH COMPLIANCE RELATED ASPECTS, MAINTENANCE OF SYSTEMS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE LIKE. THE BASIS FOR THE FEE HAS TO BE AN EQUITABLE, REASONABLE, NONDISCRIMINATORY BASIS. THOSE ARE ALL THE APPROACHES THAT ARE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE CAME UP WITH, WE'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE. FOR THE CITY ITSELF YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE. OVER 200 MILES OF STORM HEIGHT, 27 MILES OF CHANNELS AND CREEKS AND THE LIKE, A COUPLE OF DAMS, AS YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THERE'S A BIG CAPITAL NEED FOR. BUT, THERE IS INCREASING NEEDS FOR THE UPKEEP OF THINGS, NATURAL CHANGES, DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRING, AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THERE'S ONGOING NEEDS. NEAR-TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PRIORITIES THAT IDENTIFY, THERE'S ALSO ONGOING WHAT WE CALL REHAB AND RENEWAL IS NECESSARY FOR YOUR AGING AND FOR STRUCTURE. OKAY? SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT, THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE OF COST, WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE IN A SECOND. HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY, WHAT'S A REASONABLE, EQUITABLE, NONDISCRIMINATORY APPROACH TO ASSESS THOSE COSTS , TO THE COMMUNITY? WHAT'S THE MOST COMMON, ACCEPTABLE APPROACH IS WHAT'S CALLED IMPERVIOUS.

THINK OF IT AS THE HARD SERVICE THAT KEEPS THE PRECIPITATION FROM SOAKING INTO THE GROUND, RESULTS IN MORE RUNOFF. EXAMPLES THERE, YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, WE'LL SHOW THIS IMPERVIOUS AREA. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT FOR EVERY PROPERTY IN THE CITY.

THAT'S PART OF THE FULL STUDY IS TO IDENTIFY THAT FOR EVERY PROPERTY. FROM THIS, WE'VE GOT A HIGH-LEVEL SUMMARY, HERE,

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WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU A FEE STRUCTURE RECOMMENDATION THAT SHOWS TO YOUR RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, A SMALL, MEDIUM, AND LARGE. AND WHAT WE CALL A EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT BASIS, FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BASICALLY, THINK OF IT AS THE UNIT OF MEASURE FOR THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA. THERE IS A RECOGNITION, IT'S BUILT INTO OUR RECOMMENDED FEE STRUCTURE, IS THAT THE COMMERCIAL IMPACTS ARE MORE THAN THE RESIDENTIAL IMPACT BECAUSE THE LARGER PERCENT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA AS WELL, THERE TYPICALLY IS LESS GRASSY AREA THAT CAN ABSORB SOME OF THAT, THAT RUNOFF FROM THE IMPERVIOUS AREA. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. STATE LAW DOES ALLOW FOR YOU TO, BY COUNCIL DECISION, TO EXEMPT TAX EXEMPT OR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, AND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOLS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A POLICY DECISION AS WELL. SO, ON THE LEFT, IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPERTIES BY TYPE, BY COUNT.

THERE IS 95% OF THE PROPERTIES IN CARROLLTON ARE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. OKAY? AND A LITTLE LESS THAN 5% ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. ON THE RIGHT IS THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA. WHAT YOU NOTICE, THAT 5% OF COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS FOR 55% OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREA. THE STORM WATER RUNOFF IMPACT IS STRONGLY GENERATED FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE RELATIVE TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S FACTORED INTO THIS, THIS IS NOT A CHARGE BASED ON EACH RESIDENTIAL, EACH PROPERTY IS CHARGED THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT.

WE FACTOR IN THIS IMPERVIOUS AREA. FROM THE EXEMPTION STANDPOINT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS, KNOW THAT THE TAX-EXEMPT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS ACCOUNT FOR 2% OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREA AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN 4%. SO, EXEMPTING THOSE HAS THAT REVENUE IMPACT. OKAY. SO, QUICK EXAMPLES, HERE, THAT MEASUREMENT ACROSS PROPERTIES, YOUR AVERAGE CARROLLTON RESIDENCE HAS 3300 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS AREA.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE 3300 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, LIVING AREA, THAT'S THE GARAGE, THAT'S THE PATIO, THAT'S THE DRIVEWAY.

IT'S ALL THESE OTHER COMPONENTS, EVEN THE OVERHANG.

ALL OF THAT HARD SURFACE ACCOUNTS FOR 3300 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS AREA. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT, THIS BUSINESS HAS ABOUT 13 E.R. USE, 13 EQUIVALENT HOUSE IS WORTH. IT'S THESE UNITS, INSTEAD OF SAYING 40,600 37 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S THE UNIT OF MEASURE. SO, JUMPING OVER TO THE COST SIDE OF THINGS, THE CURRENT STORMWATER RELATED FUNDING, IS BROKEN DOWN, THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING ON THAT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, FUNDING THESE KINDS OF SERVICES, YOUR COMPLIANCE, INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS TWO BIG BUCKETS.

THE O AND M SIDE OF THINGS, SO, WE GO FORWARD ON THIS AND JUMP RIGHT IN WITH SOME BIG OPTIONS. ON THE FAR LEFT, YOU SEE THREE SERVICE LEVELS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BOTH COLOR-CODED THE SAME AND ALL THAT, DECOUPLE SERVICE LEVEL 1 FROM THE O AND M FROM THE CIP SERVICE LEVEL. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PARTNERED. ON THE O AND M ON THE LEFT, IT MATCHES EFFECTIVELY TO YOUR SERVICE LEVEL, SO YOU'RE MOWING ABOUT 35 ACRES AROUND THE PONDS, 275 ACRES OF DRAINAGE, SOME VEHICLES TAKING CARE OF ANY STREET SWEEPING CONTRACT. SERVICE LEVEL 2 EXPANDS THAT SLIGHTLY FROM 35 TO 45 ACRES, MAINTENANCE FEES. YOU SEE THE EXPANSION THERE, LITTLE BIT OF EQUIPMENT, MORE STREET SWEEPING.

AND ADDING IN THE PIPE SYSTEM INSPECTION, AND CHANNEL MAINTENANCE. YOU'RE STARTING TO GET TO A PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. AND THEN SERVICEABLE THREE , JUST EXPANDS ON SERVICE LEVEL 2, MORE MOWING AVAILABLE, MORE EQUIPMENT, THE ADDITION , SO YOU SEE THREE FTES, THERE, A LITTLE BIT MORE STREET SWEEPING, AND AGAIN, MORE AGGRESSIVE ON THE INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE, OF CHANNELS. YOU SEE THE ASSOCIATED ANNUAL COST IN

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TODAY'S DOLLARS FOR EACH OF THOSE. ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU SEE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW, THE CITIES IDENTIFIED THESE NEAR-TERM PROJECTS, THESE ARE HIGH-PRIORITY PROJECTS, THE LARGEST OF THOSE ABOUT 24 MILLION, GO BACK TO AN EARLIER SLIDE, THESE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS ARE CONSIDERED HIGH PRIORITY TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. THAT'S 42 MILLION.

FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN 14 MILLION, UP TO 60 MILLION, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL FOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT AT THE SAME PRIORITY FROM A TIME STANDPOINT THAT ARE STILL IDENTIFIED AS PROJECT NEEDS. WOULD INCREASE THAT TO 56 MILLION, AND THEN, UP TO 68 MILLION WITH SEVEN CAPITAL PROJECTS. THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE KNOWN, AND SOMETIMES THE QUESTION IS, WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT, HOW LONG DO WE WANT TO WAIT TO ADDRESS IT? THINK OF THIS AS YOUR TIMING OF WHEN WE WANT TO JUMP IN AND ADDRESS

KNOWN PROBLEMS. >> TO THESE VALUES ACCOUNT FOR THE TIMING OF THE PROJECTS AS WELL? ARE WE ACCOUNTING FOR THE

INFLATION ? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

RIGHT NOW THESE ARE IN PRESENT-DAY DOLLARS. WOULD REMODEL THINGS WE FACTOR THAT SERVICE, FOR WHEN THE TIMING WOULD BE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

>> SO THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE

FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT. >> OKAY. ON THE LEFT, WE TALKED ABOUT ALLOCATING COSTS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND AS COSTS ARE NEEDED I'M GOING TO DO A CHART ON THE O AND M SIDE, OF THINGS THAT SHOWS SERVICE LEVEL 1, THE EXISTING SERVICE LEVEL, FOR MOST OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, 87% OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WHICH I'LL SHOW AS THE MIDDLE TIER, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $2.35 PER MONTH ON THEIR MONTHLY BILL. IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE NEXT SERVICE LEVEL WHERE YOU'RE STARTING TO INCORPORATE PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE, INCREASE STREET SWEEPING AND THE LIKE, THAT GOES UP A LITTLE OVER A DOLLAR TO 350. AND AT THE HIGHEST SERVICE LEVEL, THAT INCLUDES THE NEW CREW, $4.65 PER MONTH. FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENT. ON THE CIP SIDE OF THINGS, SIMILARLY, SERVICE LEVEL ONE GETS THOSE HIGH-PRIORITY PROJECTS, BACK IN THE DEBT FUNDING, $2.15 PER MONTH. 260 FOR THE SERVICE LEVEL WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO GET TO $56 MILLION OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND $3.05, FOR SERVICE LEVEL 3. THOSE SERVICE LEVELS CAN BE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER. AND THE CIP SERVICE LEVEL CAN BE SEPARATE. I'M GOING TO SHOW THIS AGAIN, A DIFFERENT KIND OF GRAPHIC TO SHOW FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, THAT YOU CAN PICK SERVICE LEVEL, CERTAIN SERVICE LEVEL , THREE IS WHAT'S RECOMMENDED, AND SERVICE LEVEL 2, RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE FOR THE CIP, OKAY? AND TO GET YOU WHAT YOUR TOTAL WOULD BE. I DO WANT TO SHOW THE NONRESIDENTIAL SIDE. I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT PART OF WHAT WE FACTORED IN IS THE INCREASED IMPACT OF RUNOFF FROM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S A SLIGHT PREMIUM ON THAT, WHEREAS, FOR SERVICE LEVEL 3 IS $5.40, AND THREE DOLLARS FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW IS THE RECOMMENDATION. SO FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENT IT WOULD BE $7.25 A MONTH, FOR THE COMMERCIAL , THAT SAME AMOUNT, $8.40. OKAY. ROLLING THAT ALTOGETHER, TO THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, FROM AN ON M STANDPOINT, THAT WAS THE $7 MILLION SERVICE LEVEL 3, APPROACH, I WON'T REREAD ALL OF THAT. WHAT THE SERVICES ARE INCLUDED WITH THAT $7 MILLION PER YEAR. AND THE CIP ADDRESSES THOSE HIGH-PRIORITY PROJECTS , PLUS, OTHER PROJECTS, ALL THOSE HIGH-PRIORITY PROJECTS AND THAT SECOND LEVEL PROJECT. IT DOES ASSUME THAT YOU WOULD EXEMPT THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. THESE RATES WE'RE GOING TO SHOW ON THE TOP RIGHT, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTIES. THESE RATES FACTOR THAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE EXEMPTED. IF YOU DON'T, IT HAS A 21% IMPACT ON THE RATES. SO, TOP RIGHT, WHAT YOU SEE, HEAR,

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WE'VE GOT THREE TIERS FOR RESIDENTIAL. THE SMALLEST PROPERTIES, THE SMALLEST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WOULD PAY FOUR DOLLARS PER MONTH, THERE'S 10% THE RESIDENCE WOULD BE IN THE FOUR DOLLAR A MONTH. AND THEN, 80% WOULD BE PAYING $7.29, THAT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE LARGEST 10%, THE BIGGEST PROPERTY, IMPERVIOUS AREA AMOUNT WOULD BE $11.40. THE COMMERCIAL WOULD PAY $8.40 PER E.R.U. SO, THAT WOULD GENERATE 8.5, 8.8 MILLION, THE REASON THERE IS A RANGE IS FACTORING GROWTH OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. AND YOU SEE HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN BETWEEN ON M, THE ANNUAL 7 MILLION A YEAR, AND THE DEBT SERVICE. SO, AGAIN, JUST SHOWING IT SEPARATELY, SMALL PROPERTIES, MIDSIZE PROPERTY, 725. 11 HERE, NONRESIDENTIAL, THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES. THIS IS IN TIERED, THESE ARE EXAMPLE PROPERTIES, THERE'S PROPERTIES AT ONE E.R.U., THERE'S PROPERTIES AT 100 E.R.U.'S, JUST AS EXAMPLES, THIS BANK FOR EXAMPLE HAS 12 E.R. USE, WOULD BE $100.80. THE MIDSIZE PROPERTY HERE, $344 AND THIS LARGE PROPERTY,. FOR A COMMERCIAL, JUST TO REITERATE, THERE'S EVERYTHING BETWEEN. AS WELL. ABOUT HALF OF YOUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WOULD BE 10 E.R.U.'S OR LESS. AND ABOUT TWO THIRDS WOULD BE 30 E.R.U.'S OR LESS. YOU GET A FEEL FOR MOST OF THEM DOWN HERE, MOST OF THEM ARE NOT, THIS IS THE EXCEPTION. NOT THE STANDARD. OKAY. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE? THAT MAP EARLIER, MOST CITIES IN NORTH TEXAS HAVE THAT, WE HAVE A SELECTION OF YOUR KEY COMPARISON CITIES, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THIS HOUSE AND PUT IT INTO EACH OF THESE CITIES, WHAT WOULD THEY BE PAYING EACH MONTH? RELATIVE TO WHAT THE RECOMMENDED SERVICE LEVEL WOULD BE? YOU SEE WHERE THAT RATE FITS, WITHIN THE SPECTRUM OF CURRENT RATES. LOOK AT THAT FOR A SECOND. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF THESE CITIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ACTIVELY IN THE PROCESS OF MODIFYING AND UPDATING THEIR RATES, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING DOWN RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY WE'RE TALKING TO IS LOOKING AT AN INCREASE TO THEIR RATES, THAT WOULD SHIFT THIS SLIGHTLY, WHERE YOU ARE HERE YOU MIGHT BE CLOSER TO THE MIDDLE. AND THEN, SAME FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS. SO, YOU SEE, TYPICAL BUSINESS, THAT WOULD BE $33, AND YOU SEE THE RANGE, HERE. ACROSS OTHER CITIES. OKAY. SO, ARE THERE SLIDES AFTER?

>> DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK? >> THERE YOU GO.

>> WE HAD THREE DECISIONS THAT WE NEEDED GUIDANCE FROM YOU GUYS ON, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THE FIRST DECISION POINT WAS RELATED TO EXEMPTIONS. WE MENTIONED THERE WAS THE EXEMPTION FOR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND CHARTER SCHOOLS. SO, WE NEED A DECISION FOR YOU GUYS, FOR WHAT TO ADVERTISE, WHAT TO INCLUDE. SO, WERE YOU IN AGREEMENT ON EXEMPTIONS FOR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS IN SCHOOL

DISTRICTS? >> WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A THUMBS-UP, HERE, THIS ISN'T AN ACTION OR ANYTHING.

>> YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE BY ONE TO GET CONSENSUS? FAIR ENOUGH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING EXEMPTION? DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE EXEMPTIONS AS STIPULATED?

>> WHAT DO THE OTHER IN REGARD TO EXEMPTION?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS WHAT ARE THE OTHER CITIES DO AS FAR AS EXEMPTION? THERE'S A HEALTHY MIX ACROSS THE METROPLEX, ABOUT HALF DO EXEMPTIONS, ABOUT HALF, DON'T.

THERE'S A MIXING WITHIN THE TYPES OF EXEMPTIONS, WHICH ONES

DO. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING

EXEMPTIONS? >> WHAT ABOUT PRESCHOOL CENTERS LIKE DAY CARES THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED?

>> THAT WOULD BE TREATED AS COMMERCIAL.

>> EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS IS SPECIFICALLY BY STATE STATUTES, WE'RE ONLY BRINGING THE THINGS THAT STATE STATUTE PURPOSE.

>> PERSONALLY I'M ALL FOR THE EXEMPTIONS.

>> I THINK THE COMMITTEE WAS AS WELL, THAT WAS THE DECISION ON OUR PART BUT WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU ALL TO TALK ABOUT

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THAT. IT'S $.20, ROUGHLY, 20.5, SO, I THINK, I SAW TWO THUMBS

UP. COMMITTEE HAD THUMBS-UP. >> SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON EXEMPTIONS, THANK YOU. SERVICE LEVELS? SAME SAME?

>> WE WANT TO GO TO THE SERVICE LEVELS AGAIN SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK

AT WHAT THEY'RE HAVING. >> THE SERVICE LEVELS AND THEY LOOK AT THE RATE, I'LL SWITCH THE RATES IN A SECOND. LET'S SEE. LET ME GET PAST ALL THIS. OKAY. THERE IS THE RATE IMPACT OF EACH, AND, WITH THE SERVICE LEVELS ESSENTIALLY, EXISTING SERVICE, JUST TRANSFERRING FUNDING OVER, SERVICE LEVEL 2, AND SERVICE LEVEL 3, JUST ALLOW FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE, AND CARE FOR YOUR SYSTEM. SERVICE LEVEL 3 IS , COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, THAT INCLUDED DEDICATED STAFF

FOR MAINTENANCE. >> SO, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE, THEN? ON THE RECOMMENDATION SERVICE LEVELS?

>> WITH A LOT OF GREAT CONVERSATION DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THIS, I THINK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE REST OF YOU COMMENT ON THIS, BUT, IT WASN'T UNANIMOUS, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY , WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DECISION TO GO WITH SERVICE LEVEL 3. ON THE ON THEM, AND SERVICE LEVEL 2 ON THE CIP.

>> AND, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU GOT THEM FOR THAT. I KNOW NANCY AND DR. PALACIOS.

>> I COMPARE TO MAINTAINING YOUR TEASE. THE ONM IS BRUSHING, FLOSSING, THE CIP IS THE ROOT CANAL, DENTURES, WHATEVER THE OTHER STUFF THEY DO NOW. YOU WANT TO DO AS MUCH PREVENTATIVE, CITIES HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR HOW MANY YEARS, NOW? WE HAVE BEEN HESITANT TO ENACT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO FUND THIS ADEQUATELY. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, GET SOME TOOTHBRUSHES AND SOME FLOSS, SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> SUFFICE IT TO SAY, YOU DEFINITELY WANT ALL OF THOSE

WHEN YOU'RE AT THE DENTIST. >> YOU'D RATHER NOT HAVE THE OTHERS IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. I THINK WE HEARD IN OUR LAST MEETING, I KNOW ONE OF OUR MEMBERS THAT HAS FLOODED.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN CARROLLTON TO BE EXPOSED TO POTENTIAL FLOODING, IT'S LIKE AGING. AS WE AGE AND AS WE GET THINGS IN OUR STORM DRAINAGE, WE WANT TO BE AWARE AND KEEP IT CLEANED OUT AND BE THE BEST STEWARDS WE CAN TO PROTECT EMERGENCY SERVICES WISE. I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT HAVING THE POLICE AND FIRE, I WANT TO FEEL GOOD WHEN IT'S RAINING LIKE CRAZY. I WANT TO FEEL GOOD THAT WE HAVE THE WIND AND EVENTS THAT HAPPEN, LAST SPRING WHERE KELLUM CREEK OVER POPLAR ROAD, AND OF COURSE HAD TO GO AND REMOVE THE GUARD RAIL, HAULED DEBRIS OUT OF THE CREEK. YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO BE PROACTIVE, WHICH IS WHAT HE'S SAYING. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN FEEL CONFIDENT, IT'S JUST GOOD CARE

AND PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC. >> APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> I DO. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CIP, I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE WOODLAKE DAM. THE WOOD LAKE ROOT CANAL THAT WE NEED. AND WHY IT'S IN THE 27 MILLION.

DOLLAR RANGE. >> GOOD EVENING, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. AS YOU MAY RECALL WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A STUDY OF THE WOODLAKE DAM AND THE JERSEY RANCH DAM. DURING THE STUDY, OUR ENGINEERING FIRM DETERMINED THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ISSUES REQUIRING ALMOST A FULL REBUILD.

HENCE THE PRICE TAG WE'RE AT, ALMOST EVERY TIME IT RAINS IT BEGINS OVERTOPPING. IT'S UNDERSIZED AND PUBLIC WORKS IS CONSISTENTLY HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND DO MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH IT. FOR OUR ANALYSIS WITH OUR FIRM, THAT WE HIRED, WE'VE DETERMINED IT'S TIME FOR A FULL OVERHAUL OF THE DAM. THAT'S WHERE THAT PRICE POINT SITS AT THE 24 MILLION MARK. THAT'S THE ESTIMATE OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TOGETHER.

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>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THE TIMEFRAME NEEDED FOR

THAT? IS THIS A DIRE NEED? >> THE SOONER THE BETTER. IN OUR OPINION, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS, VERY QUICKLY IS OUR GOAL. IF WE IMPLEMENT THIS OR IF IT GOT ON THE BOND AND WE DIDN'T IMPLEMENT THIS, OUR TARGET TO GET IT COMPLETED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU CLARIFY THE CAPITAL

PROJECTS REFERRED TO ? >> IN TWO AND THREE, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCALIZED DRAINAGE ISSUES. AS WELL AS OTHER CREEK PROJECTS, EROSION PROJECTS. WHAT WE, WE ADDED IN IS OUR LOCALIZED DRAINAGE PHASE ONE WAS A FIVE OF 15. THAT WAS FROM 2019 STUDY, AND SINCE THAT TIME OUR STAFF HAS ADDED PROBABLY 15 OTHERS. SO, PHASE ONE IS FIVE OF 15, PHASE TWO , THESE WOULD BE CONTINUING ON, ALLOW US TO START ADDRESSING THOSE INDEFINITELY. THOSE PROJECTS RANGE IN SCALE, SOME OF THEM ARE EXPENSIVE, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT AS EXPENSIVE. IT WOULD ALLOW US TO PROGRAMMATICALLY GO IN AT THE DIFFERENT SERVICE LEVELS, HAVE ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER, ON THE DRAINAGE TEAM PAID FOR THROUGH THE DRAINAGE FUND TO MANAGE THOSE PROJECTS. FUNDING AS WELL AS A TEAM MEMBER TO DO THAT.

>> TO COUNCILMEMBER CLINE'S POINT, THIS MONEY HAS TO BE SAVED NOW OR IT WILL BE A LOT MORE MONEY LATER ON. I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE, I DON'T ME TO SPEAK FOR YOU. I AGREE WITH YOU IN THAT REGARD, FOR SURE.

>> TO RECAP THIS, AND THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT OUR COMMITTEE MADE, IF WE CHOOSE THREE ON ONM, THIS IS GOING TO MITIGATE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE? IF WE'RE RUSHING AND RUSHING WE WON'T NEED THAT OTHER ROOT CANAL FIVE, SEVEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD?

>> IT HELPS. YOU CAN EXTEND THE TIMEFRAME, YOU ALWAYS EVENTUALLY NEED DENTAL. IT HELPS EXTEND IT, SO, WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSING ALL THE ONM, YOU'RE EXTENDING THE LIFE , SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH STREETS. ONE DOLLAR PUBLIC WORKS SPENDS MAINTAINING NOW IS FIVE DOLLARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR WHAT MY TEAM HAS TO COME UP

WITH. >> GREAT. I FEEL GOOD WITH YOUR

RECOMMENDATIONS. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> I FEEL STRONGLY THAT A LOT OF OUR CREEKS ARE MASSIVELY OVERGROWN AND I'M NOT SURE THAT EVEN ONM THREE INVOLVES REMOVING THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF VEGETATION THAT'S BLOCKING THE DRAINAGE AND BECOMING DEBRIS DOWNSTREAM AS WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN. I HOPE THAT MOWING BECOMES VEGETATION REMOVAL OF , STUFF THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE THERE, NEVER DESIGNED TO BE THERE.

>> APPRECIATE IT. CAN WE GET CONSENSUS ON THE LEVEL 3?

THUMBS-UP? >> I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE OVERGROWTH. LOOK AT THAT, IT STILL FLOWS, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO, WE ONLY HAVE, I'M SORRY, ONE CREW FOR DRAINAGE REPAIRS. WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF IT.

BUT WITH THESE, WE'LL HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT TO CLEAN THIS OUT.

>> WHERE PARKS USED TO MOW EACH YEAR THEY MOLEST BECAUSE THIS STUFF BECOMES MUCH MORE, IF YOU JUST NEVER BRUSH HER TEETH. IT JUST GETS REALLY GNARLY AND UNATTRACTIVE, BUT ALSO, INEFFICIENT FOR CARRYING WATER. THIS IS SOMETHING WE FEEL

STRONGLY ABOUT. >> CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT, BEFORE I ASK FOR CONSENSUS? THUMBS UP FOR THAT. OKAY. AND THEN IN THE THIRD. THE BEGINNING ADVERTISEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE WOULD TAKE THE INFORMATION, THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU PROVIDED US TONIGHT, AND WE WOULD UPDATE DRAFT ORDINANCES, SO WE CAN START OUR ADVERTISEMENT PROCESS FOR PUBLIC HEARING. THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING NOVEMBER 4TH, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE ADOPTION AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ADVERTISING? CONSENSUS THERE? I'D LIKE TO THINK OF BOTH THE STAFF AS WELL AS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS IN ADVANCE, AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS AT FREESE AND NICHOLS FOR THE STUDY, EXCELLENT JOB, REALLY. INFORMATIVE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS, OUR BUSINESSES, AND THEIR CITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. OKAY.

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NEXT, I HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO READ THROUGH THOSE CONSENT ITEMS. I HAVE ONE CALLOUT WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 24, THERE ARE TWO NOMINATIONS. HONORABLE MIKE HANNA FOR, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE, I THINK. FORMER COUNCILMEMBER. AS WELL AS OUR OTHER NOMINEE , SO, TO INCLUDE ON ITEM NUMBER 24 IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO, I'LL CALL THIS UP ON THE DAIS AS AGREED TO. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF OUR CONSENT ITEMS, I'LL READ IT OUT AND WE CAN BRING IT UP FOR COMMENT IN THE WORK SESSION. YES.

>> ITEM NUMBER 26 HAS AN AS AMENDED WORDING.

>> I DO APOLOGIZE. THERE'S A SMALL VERBIAGE THAT IT ON ITEM 26. IT WASN'T ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL. IT WAS JUST A WORD FLIP, BASICALLY. IF YOU WILL ALSO APPROVE THAT AS AMENDED AS

WELL. >> FROM A CONSENSUS STANDPOINT, WE CAN BE ABLE TO APPROVE, BUT ALSO STIPULATE ITEMS 24 AND 26 AS AMENDED? DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTS REGARDING THE

CONSENT AGENDA? >> ITEM 25.

>> READ THAT FOR US, ITEM 25, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCIDENT AGREEMENT WITH LOAN SERVICES LLC, ESTABLISHING PROGRAM OF GRANTS TO THE COMPANY FOR ITS RELOCATION AND THE CREATION OF JOBS AT 5025 PARKWAY TO PROMOTE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND STIMULATE BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CITY FOR JOB CREATION GRANT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 1.8 MILLION EVEN. JENNY? THERE SHE IS. YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER?

>> JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. FOR THIS

PARTICULAR ITEM. >> THIS IS A CASH GRANT, IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.8 MILLION, AND THAT IS FOR A TOTAL OF 1200.

>> FOR THE CURRENT LOCATION, WHERE THEY CURRENTLY LOCATED? ARE THEY COMING FROM THE PLANO LOCATION?

>> THERE IS PART OF THAT OPERATION THAT WOULD BE MOVING HERE, THERE'S ALSO A CONSOLIDATION OF FIVE OTHER

LOCATIONS ACROSS THE U.S. >> SO, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHAPTER 3 AGREEMENT. WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE

DO CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT? >> THE GREATEST INCENTIVE WAS EVALUATED AS THE OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WE HAD. WE LOOKED AT FISCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT, AND SO, THE AGREEMENT IS JUST IN RELATION TO THE JOB CREATION GRANT. SO, A COMPANY MUST CERTIFY FOR ITS GRANT PAYMENT FOR THE FIRST 500, AND THEY'LL CERTIFY AGAIN FOR THE REMAINING 700 FOR A TOTAL OF 1200. SO, EACH TIME THE COMPANY IS READY FOR CERTIFICATION, THEY'LL SUBMIT THAT TO US. BUT THEN ALSO SUBMIT BACK TO THE CITY ANNUALLY FOR THE DURATION OF THE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS 10

YEARS. >> SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO TRACK NEW BUSINESS, THAT WOULD BE A NEW BUSINESS TO THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. I KNOW YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES COMING OVER FROM PLANO, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE HEADCOUNT IS?

>> I THINK IT WAS IN THE THREE TO 400, THERE'S ANOTHER FORT WORTH OFFICE THAT WOULD BE CONSOLIDATED INTO THIS. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT BOTH COMBINED WOULD BE ABOUT 500. THE GROWTH OF THE COMPANY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS IS GOING TO BE ATTRIBUTED TO WHEN THE LEASE IS EXPIRING FOR THE OTHER THREE

LOCATIONS. >> I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS, WHAT TYPE OF TAX REVENUE GROWTH WOULD THIS BE FOR THE CITY? HOW WILL IT BENEFIT THE CITY OF CARROLLTON FOR THIS PARTICULAR

PROJECT? >> I WILL SAY, 1800 NEW JOBS FOR THE CITY WOULD BE THE BIGGEST BENEFIT. IT'S ALSO POSITIONED RELOCATION AT JOSIE AND PARKER, WHICH IS SET TO BE ACCELERATED NOW THE REMAINING PART OF LAND, THIS WILL ACCELERATE BUSINESS GROWTH IN THAT INTERCEPTION. THIS IS ALSO A PROJECT THAT WE CAN ADD THAT GIVES A LOT OF BRANDING AND REPUTATION ASSOCIATED WITH US. IF WE WANT TO GROW OUR OFFICE COMPONENT HERE IN CARROLLTON, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES, THIS WILL GIVE A FEATHER IN CARROLLTON'S CAP TO SAY WE CAN ATTRACT A FINANCIAL

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SERVICES COMPANY INTO CARROLLTON.

>> ECONOMICALLY, HOW WILL THE STATE OF CARROLLTON BENEFIT ECONOMICALLY? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

>> YOU WANT THE ACTUAL IMPACT NUMBERS?

>> IF POSSIBLE. PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS, SALES TAX DOLLARS?

>> SOME PROPERTY TAX THAT 300,000 SQUARE FEET. I WILL SAY THAT THE BUILDING WAS FINISHED OUT, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS GOING IN BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE, IN A MATTER OF A FEW YEARS, I THINK YEAR 2032 THEY'LL BE SPENDING ABOUT $10 MILLION IN REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS.

>> THAT'S A MORTGAGE COMPANY, CORRECT? THERE'S VERY LITTLE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX THAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. THAT'S VERY MINIMAL. I GUESS, HOW I LOOK AT IT, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT AREA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2500 PLANO PARKWAY? WHICH USED TO BE , WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, IT'S UP IN THE NORTH CORNER, TO THE WEST WE HAVE PLANO, TO THE LEFT OF IT, WE HAVE LOUISVILLE. SO, I'M LOOKING AT THE POSSIBLE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT MAY BE THERE, AND HOW MANY FOLKS WILL GO AND EAT AND DINE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WILL BE SAFE TO SAY THAT WOULD BE SPLIT AMONG THE CITIES. MAYBE MORE SO , MAYBE MORE SO, PLANO. RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA.

>> THERE MAY BE SOME SPILLOVER WITH DEALS LIKE THIS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A SPILLOVER EFFECT WHERE THE EMPLOYEES LIVE, WHERE THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY, THAT IS SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I WILL SAY THAT THIS FACILITY ALSO HAS DINING IN HOUSE. SO WE'VE GOT A LARGE CAFETERIA FROM YOUR

EMPLOYEES AS WELL. >> WE'VE GOT, MINIMAL PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, VERY MINIMAL SALES TAX. SO, TRYING TO GET A GRASP ON HOW IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US OVERALL. OTHER THAN IT'S NICE TO HAVE A TENANT THERE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ANOTHER TENANT.

AT THAT LOCATION. >> THIS IS NOT, A TAX REBATE AGREEMENT WHICH IS GOING TO FOCUS MORE ON REAL PROPERTY AND COMPONENTS, FOR OFFICE PROJECT TO NOT SEE AS MUCH IN REAL PROPERTY, WHAT WE'RE VALUING IS THE JOBS, AND THROUGH A LONG SPAN OF TIME. HAVING THESE JOBS FOR 10 YEARS, WE ASK THEM TO HOLD THESE POSITIONS, IS GOING TO HAVE, PAY MORE DIVIDENDS.

1800 EMPLOYEES THROUGH A SPAN OF TIME, BUT THE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY THAT GIVES CARROLLTON TO POSITION ITSELF FOR THE FUTURE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BUILD THAT MOMENTUM. WHERE LIKE-MINDED COMPANIES ARE, IT'S ONE THING THAT CAN ATTRACT THE AREA. JUST USING THIS OPERATION AS WE MOVE

TOWARD THE FUTURE. >> I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A TENANT THERE BEFORE, AND WE DID , I IMAGINE WE DID AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WENT UP UNTIL 2000 12, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. MY QUESTION IS, I'M STRUGGLING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BENEFIT FOR THE DOLLARS. I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT BRINGING IN THOSE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES, BUT, I STRUGGLE WITH WHERE THE ECONOMICS OF IT ALL , REGARDING

SALES TAX. >> THERE IS NO PERSONAL PROPERTY

TAX. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

IN SUMMARY, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND IT, THE FOCUS REALLY IS ABOUT THE JOBS THAT THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS IS BRINGING TO CARROLLTON, FINANCIAL INSTITUTION THAT WILL HELP US SCALE WITH ATTRACTING OTHER FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO CARROLLTON, THE BENEFIT IN ITSELF IS NOT IN THE TAX REBATE, IT'S IN THE NEW JOBS BEING CREATED, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> I THINK THE JOBS ARE IN THE ECONOMICS MYSELF. A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

>> WELL, YOU'RE CERTAINLY OF LIBERTY TO PULL CONSENT. THANK YOU. SO, AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE CONSENT FOR ITEMS 14 THROUGH 26, WITH THE AMENDMENTS STIPULATED ON RESOLUTION 24, AS WELL AS THE EDITS TO 26. DO I HAVE CONSENSUS?

>> POLL 25. >> YOU WANT TO PULL 25, ABSOLUTELY. SO, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON 14 THROUGH 26 WITH

THOSE AS AMENDED? >> YES.

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>> OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, NOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'LL READ US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO DISCUSS, THERE, I'LL INVITE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM TO GO NEXT DOOR FOR A MOMENT.

I'M GOING TO READ US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, COUNCILWOMAN EL CAMINO EXECUTIVE SESSION, PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071. PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY DURING REGARDING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION ON ALL MATTERS ON THIS AGENDA TO WHICH THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS A DUTY TO ADVISE. WE WILL MEET UNDER SECTION 55102072 TO

>> OKAY, COUNCIL, WE NOW RECONVENE TO CONSIDER ACTIONS IF ANY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. COUNCIL, WE HAVE TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS IN INFORMATION SHARING. TRY TO GET THROUGH THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS AND PERHAPS DO INFORMATION SHARING FROM THE DAIS. THE NEXT IS DISCUSS CRIME TRAFFIC IN CHILD SAFETY ZONES RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE WILL NOW DISCUSS THIS, AND HAVE A PRESENTATION. INTRODUCING OUR CONSULTANT.

>> SO, TONIGHT, ONE OF THE WORK SESSIONS THE POSTING IS FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU, IF YOU RECALL COUNCIL ADOPTED BACK IN MAY, THAT LOOKED TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE THE REGULATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. SO, YOU'VE REQUESTED DIFFERENT TOPICS BE ADDRESSED, ONE OF THOSE ARE CRIME RELATED SHORT-TERM RENTALS, ONE OF THOSE ARE SACK -- AND OFFENDER ZONES WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THE CITY HAS HIRED DR. BELL CARMEN, HIS CONSULTING FIRM, HE WORKS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND IS ALSO A PROFESSOR, AND I'M GOING TO LET HIM INTRODUCE HIMSELF MORE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE HIS RESUME. I'VE HIRED HIM TO BE AN EXPERT ON THE CRIMINAL , THE CRIME AND SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE

CITY. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. A SHORT BIO, I'VE BEEN A CRIMINOLOGIST FOR 28 YEARS, I WORKED WITH 150 POLICE AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE. I'VE TAUGHT AT THE FBI ACADEMY, QUANTICO, I'M A PROFESSOR, AND GETTING READY TO RETIRE IN JANUARY. I'VE BEEN IN THE SPACE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, IN RACIAL PROFILING AND POLICING FOR THE PAST 27 YEARS, BUT AS A CRIMINOLOGIST WE DEAL WITH VARIOUS TOPICS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. SHE ASKED ME TO LOOK INTO THE PAST THREE YEARS IN TERMS OF THE DATA AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THESE IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. WHAT I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU IS THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED OURSELVES BEFORE WE CAME ON BOARD, THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT IS THE PREVALENCE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN SDR PROPERTIES IN THE CITY? BOSTON NUMBER TWO IS DUE SDR PROPERTIES DEMONSTRATE HIGHER RATES OF MUNICIPAL CODE VIOLATIONS COMPARED TO BASELINE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES? THE THIRD IS, THE SPATIAL AND TEMPORAL PATTERNS THAT EXIST IN SDR RELATED CRIMINAL INCIDENTS, ARE THERE ANY? AND WHAT REGULATORY AND ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES EXIST IN THE CURRENT SDR OVERSIGHT FRAMEWORK? THESE QUESTIONS WE ATTEMPTED TO ANSWER, AND I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY , PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT WORKED THE ATTORNEYS, THEY GAVE ME ACCESS TO ALL THE INFORMATION I REQUESTED, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM A STRAIGHT SHOOTER, THAT'S THE REPUTATION I HAVE IN TEXAS, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 27 YEARS AND THAT'S WHAT I GET ALONG WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS MY WORK PRODUCT. I ASKED FOR SPECIFIC INFORMATION, THEY PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION AND A FOLLOW UP WITH ADDITIONAL REQUESTS. THE PREMISE THAT WE LOOK AT IN CRIMINOLOGY IS, AS YOU MAY KNOW, VARIOUS AREAS OF CRIME AS TO WHY IT IS THAT CRIME TAKES PLACE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. AS IT RELATES TO SDR PROPERTIES,

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WE LOOK AT THIS PREMISE OF THE CONVERGENCE OF WHAT WE CALL MOTIVATED OFFENDERS, SUITABLE TARGETS, AND INADEQUATE GUARDIANSHIPS. WE USE THIS PREMISE, WHICH WAS THE FOUNDATION , SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW WHAT THAT IS, CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. YOU TRY TO LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT, AS THE CULPRIT THAT WOULD INVITE AS OPPOSED TO THE PEOPLE THAT BRING IN THE CRIME. WHAT WE LOOK FOR SPECIFICALLY IS , IS THERE A GUARDIANSHIP PRESENTS? IS THERE SOMEONE PRESENT THAT IS THERE , WHETHER THAT'S IN THE FORM OF VIDEO CAMERAS, SECURITY GUARDS, POLICE OFFICERS, OR WHATNOT, AND IS THE ABSENCE OF THAT PREVALENT OR INVITING OF CRIME? THE TARGET SUITABILITY, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TERM TARGET HARDENING.

THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM IS THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THE TARGET VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE OFFENDER TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN OR PENETRATE. SO, WE SAW AND WE'VE SEEN A VOLUME OF INFORMATION REGARDING ANONYMOUS BOOKING SYSTEMS, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY, ALL OF WHICH AFFECT THE TARGET SUITABILITY PREMISE OF THIS PARTICULAR THEORY, AND THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS A MODERN-DAY WAY OF LOOKING AT CRIME, FROM THOSE OF US THAT STUDY IT AND THINK ABOUT IT OFTEN, IS THE SPATIAL OPPORTUNITY. THE IDEA THAT YOU SIMPLY LOOK FOR THE SPACE AND THE LACK OF FULL INTEGRATION OF SOME OF THESE SDR'S INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE LOOKED AT IT THROUGH THOSE LENSES AS WE TRY TO ANSWER THE ACTUAL QUESTION. GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION OF SDR BY Z.I.P. CODE, YOU KNOW THESE Z.I.P.

CODES BETTER THAN I DO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAST THREE YEARS, THE HISTORY OF Z.I.P. CODES AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF SDR'S THAT HAVE IN TOTAL, 81. 75006, 31, 75007, 39 AND 750010 11. NOTE THE FACT THAT YOU HAD A PREVIOUS NUMBER THAT WAS MUCH HIGHER, THAN THE ACTUAL CURRENT NUMBER. YOUR NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN. DISTRIBUTION MAP IS A PLOT FOR YOU TO GET A VISUAL OF WHERE THE SDR'S ARE LOCATED. AND, IN SOME CASES, THERE SEEMS TO BE A CLUSTER OF THEM, AND IN OTHER CASES THEY SEEM TO BE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPLIANCE STATUS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR US, WE LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THEY INVITE ATTENTION, THEY INVITE FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT, IS THERE LOUD NOISE, IS THE GRASS BEING MOWED PROPERLY? IS IT DEFACING THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ALL OF THESE THINGS WE LOOK AT AND WHAT WE FOUND IS, THE Z.I.P. CODES THAT WE LOOKED AT EARLIER, YOU SEE THE DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN THOSE THAT ARE LICENSED, THOSE THAT ARE UNLICENSED, THE SUMMATION OF ALL OF THEM AND THE NONCOMPLIANCE RATES. NOTE THE ARROW, WHICH IS HARD TO MISS, ON 75010, THE Z.I.P. CODE THAT SHOWS THERE IS A 36% NONCOMPLIANCE RATE. THAT ARE LICENSED, AND THE FOUR THAT ARE UNLICENSED IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. ALSO NOTE THAT THERE'S A TOTAL OF 11. THAT SOME UP TO THAT PARTICULAR Z.I.P. CODE, IN OTHER WORDS NUMERICALLY, THEY'RE NOT THE MAJORITY IN TERMS OF WHERE MOST OF THE SDR'S ARE LOCATED. SO WE KNOW THAT WE CALL IT THE NONCOMPLIANCE Z.I.P.

CODE, 75010 SEEMS TO BE THE ONE PREVALENT AS IT RELATES TO THESE NUMBERS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE VIOLATION FREQUENCY, HOW OFTEN DO THEY VIOLATE ORDINANCES IN THE CITY? WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE DATA FROM ZERO VIOLATIONS, ALL THE WAY TO 6+. WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THAT THERE IS A DISTRIBUTION WHERE 38% OF THE SDR'S OR 39%, ARE NON-VIOLATORS. HOWEVER, HOWEVER, OVER 60% OF THEM ARE IN THE CATEGORY OF ONE TWO TO THREE AND SUBSEQUENTLY FOUR TO FIVE AND SIX POST VIOLATIONS. AT LEAST WE CAN SAY WITH SOME DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE, THAT WE KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY IN THIS PARTICULAR CITY ARE, IN FACT, VIOLATING AT LEAST ONE ORDINANCE DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR LIFETIME. OKAY? IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE LOOKED AT THE CLASSIFICATION CATEGORIES FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODES, THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. HIGH IMPACT, MEDIUM IMPACT, LOW IMPACT. THE HIGH IMPACT HAS TO DO WITH THE ABSOLUTE HOUSING CODES, YOU MAY VIOLATE THE HOUSING CODES, VIOLATE ZONING, VIOLATE SAFETY PROTOCOLS. IMMEDIATE IMPACT HAS TO DO WITH PARKING VIOLATIONS OR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES. THE LOW IMPACT WOULD BE LANDSCAPING OR MINOR AESTHETIC VIOLATIONS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE NOT URGENT OR NEEDED TO BE FIXED RIGHT AWAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SDR ORDINANCE VIOLATION, FREQUENCY, AND YOU DO IT BY VIOLATION TYPE, CONTROLLING FOR

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VIOLATION TYPE, THE OTHER CATEGORY SEEMS TO BE INCREDIBLY PREVALENT. SO WE LOOKED FURTHER INTO WHAT OTHER MEANS, AND YOU'LL SEE IN MY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I RECOMMEND FOR THE CITY TO FURTHER FIND THAT SO THAT THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY AS TO WHAT WE MEAN BY OTHER VIOLATION TYPE. IN TERMS OF SCIENCE, SCIENCE THAT ARE POLITICAL SCIENCE, HOME BUSINESSES, GARBAGE THAT'S BEEN LEFT OUT, SOME OF THOSE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT THE CITY TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD CATEGORIZE THE OTHER CATEGORY HAS. THEN WE HAVE TRASH AND DEBRIS, PARKING, HOUSING CODE VIOLATIONS, JUNK VEHICLES, OFFSTREET PARKING, AND ZONING ISSUES. WHICH ARE THE LEAST IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY. BUT NOTE THAT THE OTHER CATEGORY SEEMS TO HAVE THE MOST PREVALENCE, MEANING 52 VIOLATIONS OUT OF 153 , 34%. AND ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART CAREFULLY, ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU WILL SEE HOW THE IMPACT LEVEL IS ACTUALLY SPREAD OUT FROM MEDIUM LOW TO MEDIUM TO LOW, TO MEDIUM, ALL THE WAY UP TO MEDIUM, TO LOW AS WELL, ONLY THE HOUSING CODE WHICH IS CATEGORIZED AS THE HIGH IMPACT LEVEL IS THE ONE THAT SHOWED AT ALMOST 8%. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION OF SDR CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS BY PERCENTAGES, THIS GIVES YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

YOU WILL SEE HOW THE OTHER CATEGORIES IT SEEMS TO HAVE SOME DEGREE OF PREVALENCE AS WELL. AGAIN, IT WILL BE USEFUL FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS IF YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO SOMEHOW PROVIDE A DEFINITION FOR WHAT OTHER AND BE ABLE TO SINGLE CATEGORIZE OTHER WITHIN THEIR CATEGORIES THEMSELVES. IN TERMS OF CRIMINALITY, THIS IS AN INTERESTING TOPIC. EVERYONE NOW, PEOPLE ARE PLAYING THE NUMBERS GAMES, THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AS YOU HAVE MORE CRIME OR LESS CRIME AND THEY'RE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION FACTORS. WHAT WE FOUND IS, THAT THERE IS NO QUESTION, BY THE WAY THAT IN THE ACADEMIC LITERATURE THAT THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN CODE VIOLATIONS, AND THE INVITATION THAT THE SPACE WOULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED, I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I'M NOT SAYING IF YOU VIOLATE A CODE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BECOME A CRIMINAL. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT IT INVITES ATTENTION, THE REASON WHY WE LOOK AT BROKEN WINDOWS AS A COMPONENT, AS A THEORY, THE IDEA IS IF YOU START ABANDONING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDINGS, IF YOU START BLOCKING THE ENTRYWAYS, IF YOUR LIGHTING IS POOR, IN YOUR PARTICULAR LOCATION, THEN IT'S GOING TO INVITE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AT SOME POINT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO. LOOKING AT THIS AND BREAKING IT DOWN BY WHAT WE CALL PART ONE PROPERTY, PART ONE VIOLENT ARE THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES, MURDER, ARSON, ET CETERA. PART ONE PROPERTY BURGLARY, ROBBERY, ET CETERA, IF YOU START PUTTING THIS IN A CHART TO SEE WHERE THE SDR CZAR, YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY THAT PART ONE PROPERTY AND DISTURBANCES SEEMS TO BE THE MOST PREVALENT OF ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT ARE THERE. MEANING CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, AND DISTURBANCE CALLS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY INSPIRE OR REQUIRE FOR POLICE PRESENCE TO BE THERE AT SOME POINT. THEN YOU HAVE THE SERVICE CALLS, WHICH IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF ALL OF THEM. I WANT TO MAKE A PAUSE HERE AND TELL YOU, FOR THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SIMILAR WORK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STARTED LOOKING AT IS, HOW MUCH MONEY IS SPENT BY A CITY ON A POLICE OFFICER? EVERY TIME AN OFFICER GOES OUT ON A CALL, THINK ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, THE AMOUNT OF SALARY, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT TAKES TO MAINTAIN AND SUPPORT THE VEHICLE THAT THAT OFFICER IS DRIVING, THAT SUPPORT , I DIDN'T DO THE NUMERICAL VALUE OF WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IN ANOTHER STUDY TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE SERVICE CALLS HAVE REQUIRED A POLICE OFFICER TO STAY THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND CENTS FOR THE CITY. BUT NOTE THE FACT THAT 125 OF THE 488, THE TOTAL COUNT, OF THESE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES WERE ACTUALLY INSPIRED BY SERVICE CALLS. THAT MEANS BUT HE PICKED UP THE PHONE, CALL 911, AND SAID I NEED A CALL. WHEN IT COMES TO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE ANALYSIS, WE STARTED , BROKE THOSE DOWN AS WELL BY SERIOUS CRIMES, AND TOTAL INCIDENTS, AND AGAIN YOU SEE HOW THERE SEEMS TO BE A REDUCTION BUT NOT A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION I WOULD ARGUE IN TERMS OF THE SERIOUS CRIMES ON THE SDR'S BY YEAR. 2021, 22, 23. KEEP IN MIND AS YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, 79 AND COMPARE THAT TO 75, TO 2023, KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 2023, YOU HAVE LESS OF THE SDR'S THAT ARE MAKING A PRESENCE IN THE CITY. IN OTHER WORDS IF

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YOU WERE TO COMPARE THESE NUMBERS, MAKE SURE YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT YOUR POPULATION OR SAMPLE IS A LOT SMALLER IN 2023 THAN IT WAS IN 2021. IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT CITATIONS ISSUED, WITH THE COMPARISON TO NON-SDR'S CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE SUPPORT AT A RATE OF 10 TO 15% ANNUALLY, OF ALL THE NON-SDR'S. THAT MEANS OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BEING RENTED, THEY ESSENTIALLY RECEIVE AT AN AVERAGE 10 TO 15% OF ALL THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED IN A SINGLE YEAR. CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE CITATIONS AT AN ANNUAL RATE OF 60%. NOW, KEEP IN MIND, THOSE CONTEXTUALLY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT THIS WAY, CODE ENFORCEMENT HANDLES APPROXIMATELY 10,000 CASES ANNUALLY, AND THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE RESOLVED WITHOUT THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITATION. IN OTHER WORDS, SOMEBODY GETS CALLED IN, CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOWS UP, AND HAS A NICE CONVERSATION WITH THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY, TWO, THREE DAYS LATER WHEN THEY COME BACK TO DO A FOLLOW-UP THEY REALIZE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED BY THE INDIVIDUAL THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY OR OCCUPIES THE PROPERTY. SO, THIS IS, A LOT OF TIMES, A LOT OF RESOURCES, THAT ARE GOING INTO THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITATIONS BY CODE ENFORCEMENT RELATED TO SDR. SDR CRIME DATA IS LIMITED, YOU CANNOT REALLY MAKE A CRIME COMPARISON WITH THE REST OF THE CITY BECAUSE THE SAMPLE OF YOUR SDR'S ARE SO SMALL. I WOULD BE VIOLATING THREE OF THE PREMISES THAT WE TEACH THESE STUDENTS CANNOT DO RESEARCH. ESSENTIALLY, IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO ATTAIN THAT, BUT, I AM SUSPECT OF THE FACT THAT SO MANY CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE TAKEN PLACE, AND THEREFORE SO MUCH OF THE ATTENTION HAS BEEN INVITED TO THIS AREA THAT IS LIKELY THAT AT SOME POINT, WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT SOLID COMPARISON, YOU WOULD FIND THAT SDR'S ARE INVITING CALLS FOR SERVICE AND A LOT MORE POLICE CALLS, AND POLICE ATTENTION THAN NON-SDR. CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE HIGHER FOR THE SDR, FOUR TO FIVE TIMES GREATER THAN NON-SDR, AND THEY INVITE GREATER POSSIBILITIES FOR CRIMINALITY IN THE SDR IS BASED ON THAT PREMISE. SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I MADE, I KNOW YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY, I KNOW THIS COUNCIL HAS ACTUALLY REVISITED SEVERAL TIMES, SO, BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN, WHAT I SEE HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IS ENHANCING THE BACKGROUND SCREENING PROTOCOL, KEEPING THE SDR, MANDATORY OFFENDER REGISTRY CHECKS FOR ALL BOOKINGS. IDENTIFICATION VERIFICATION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOW USING , SADLY, FAKE I.D.S AND DIGITAL INFORMATION THAT IS NOT VALID, TARGETED ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY PRIORITIZES Z.I.P. CODE 75010. JUST SO YOU KNOW I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE Z.I.P. CODE IS, DON'T THINK THAT I'M PICKING ON THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY REPRESENT OR LIVE IN THIS PARTICULAR Z.I.P. CODE. NO CLUE.

BUT, 36% NONCOMPLIANCE, THE PROACTIVE COMPLIANCE AUDITING FOR REPEAT VIOLATORS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU FOLLOW THE LOCATION AND YOU FOLLOW THE ENTITY THAT KEEPS ON REPEATING, AND ASKING FOR THE CITY TO INTERVENE, TO INTERVENE THE FACT THAT THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY. INCREASED PENALTIES FOR THE UNLICENSED OPERATIONS, INCREASING THOSE PENALTIES AS THE PENALTY AS THE FREQUENCY GOES UP. THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU WOULD SUSPEND THAT PERSON'S ABILITY TO OPERATE IN YOUR CITY, WHICH I KNOW YOUR COUNCIL HAS DONE BEFORE. HUMAN TRAFFICKING PRESENT PREVENTION PROGRAMS, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS. HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A SERIOUS ISSUE, WE KNOW. HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS ALSO, YOU READ THE NEWSPAPERS, WE HAD AN INCIDENT IN DALLAS RECENTLY AND SOME OTHER PLACES IN THE METROPLEX. AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE UNITED STATES, I WANT TO CAUTION YOU, CRIMINOLOGISTS WORRY ANYTIME THERE ARE MAJOR NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL EVENTS BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT IT BRINGS A LOT OF CRIME, BUSINESS PEOPLE SEE IT AS A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, WE ARE THE PARTY COOPERS OF THE GROUP, AND WE LOOK AT IT LIKE, THIS IS GOING TO BE HORRIBLE. FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE WORLD CUP IS COMING. I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING BORN OVERSEAS WHICH MEANS I KNOW WHAT THE WORLD CUP MEANS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE WORLD CUP COMING TO THE METROPLEX, IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL. NOT ONLY ECONOMICALLY BUT IS A CRIMINOLOGIST OF 28 YEARS PRACTICING, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS GOING TO INVITE A LOT OF CRIME. OKAY? I LOVE SOCCER, SO I'M NOT, AGAIN, CASTING A SPELL ON SOCCER, BUT I'M TELLING YOU

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THAT IT IS VERY POSSIBLE , WE DON'T USE THE WORD PROBABLE, BUT WE USE THE WORD POSSIBLE, THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING EVENTS WILL TAKE PLACE THROUGH THE METROPLEX, AND THAT THE STRS MAY SERVE AS A PLATFORM TO DO THAT. NOT NECESSARILY IN THE CITY BUT IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL. MANDATORY ANTITRAFFICKING TRAINING, HOUSTON IS USING THAT AND IS WORKING FOR THEM. THEY'VE SEEN A REDUCTION IN THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING , AT LEAST THOSE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED. SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORTING PROTOCOLS, AND THERE ARE SIGNS THAT PEOPLE ARE TRAINED TO LOOK FOR WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING. ESPECIALLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RENTING FACILITIES THAT MAY LOOK AT A POTENTIAL CLIENT AND SAY, SOMETHING IS WRONG, LET ME LET LAW ENFORCEMENT NO. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN THE INDUSTRY IS THAT EVERYONE RUNS THEIR OWN DATABASE. INTEGRATION IS IMPORTANT, WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER. GEOGRAPHIC RISK MANAGEMENT IS A SOPHISTICATED WAY OF LOOKING AT DENSITY CAPS. IN THE Z.I.P.

CODES, ENHANCED MONITORING FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT SEEM TO BE CLUSTERED IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CITY. COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS SO THE REST OF YOUR COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF FEAR AND GOING TO ALLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO NOT ONLY HAVE A SAY BUT ALSO BE INFORMED AND KNOW THAT THEIR CITY IS TAKING CARE OF THEM AS I'M SURE YOU ARE. TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATED MONITORING SYSTEMS , AND THEN THE REAL-TIME VIOLATION TRACKING. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE A SCREEN, IN REAL TIME, THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT ENTITIES ARE VIOLATING THESE COMPONENTS, AND YOU'RE INTERVENING AS NEEDED.

FINALLY, PLATFORM DATA SHARING AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD ALSO BE IN PLACE. IN TERMS OF LONG-TERM, ZONING RESTRICTIONS, SOME OF THE THINGS THE CITIES ARE DOING, LIMITING STRS TO DESIGNATED ZONES. EVALUATE THE COMPATIBILITY WITH RESIDENT CHARACTER PRESERVATION. THIS IS A SOPHISTICATED PHD WORD AS MY WIFE SAYS, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF TOLERANCE AS IT RELATES TO THIS, AS IT RELATES TO CRIME, TO INTERVENTION, AS IT RELATES TO PREVENTION. SO THE COMMUNITY REALLY SHOULD DECIDE, IN THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS, WHETHER OR NOT THE CHARACTER OF THE SDR IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SPIRIT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. FINALLY, ECONOMIC INCENTIVES, COMPLIANCE, BONUSES FOR VIOLATION, THOSE THAT DO NOT VIOLATE ANY KIND OF STATUTE OR ANY KIND OF COMPONENT. INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR HIGH RISK PROPERTIES, AND TAX INCENTIVES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. AS WELL. PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I REALIZED THAT MY TIME IS PRESSED.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY INFORMATIVE, VERY APPRECIATED, ALSO APPRECIATE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND LEGAL STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION, VERY INFORMATIVE. THIS IS INFORMATIVE, WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ASK THE CHAIR FOR RECOGNITION, SO WE CAN EXPIATE AND BE ABLE TO GET TO OUR MEETING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION LATER, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE INFORMATION YOU'RE GOING TO GET, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET

IT AFTER THE REGULAR MEETING. >> BE SURE TO GIVE ALL THE HARD

QUESTIONS TO HER. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLINE.

>> THE DATA WE'RE LOOKING AT, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE DATA FROM THE ONES WHO CEASED TO OPERATE SINCE THEY WERE PURSUED?

>> THEY WERE NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE SAMPLE. SURE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU .

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COUNCIL, WE HAVE ONE MORE WORK SESSION ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST AFTER COUNCIL, AND

[INVOCATION - Mayor Pro Tem Christopher Axberg]

>> BOW YOUR HEADS. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER HERE TONIGHT AS A COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL. LET US TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE TOGETHER. WE STAND AGAINST THE RISING TIDE OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE , COMMITTING OURSELVES TO DIALOGUE , UNDERSTANDING, AND PEACEFUL RESOLUTION. WE ALSO EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT PRAYERS TO OUR MAYOR, AND HIS FAMILY DURING THIS TIME WHERE THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF HIS FATHER. IN TIMES OF PERSONAL STRUGGLE, WE ARE REMINDED FOR THE STRENGTH FOUND

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IN OUR FAITH AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. LET US NOT FORGET OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR OUR SAFETY EVERY DAY, MAY WE HONOR THEIR DEDICATION AND COURAGE AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD A BETTER, SAFER CARROLLTON FOR ALL. WE ASK THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> -- OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION , UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[PRESENTATIONS]

WE WILL BEGIN WITH HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO THE PODIUM TO JOIN ME.

CAROLYN HARDAWAY IN THE CREEK VIEW TEAM. AND CARROLLTON TEAM , DETECTIVE VAZQUEZ, AND CHIEF ARREDONDO, PLEASE MEET ME AT THE PODIUM. I'M SORRY, AS WELL AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AND OUR COUNCILMEMBER, DR. PALACIOS.

OH, YEAH. YES, ABSOLUTELY, PLEASE, JOIN US. WOW. SO, I WILL READ THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF OUR MAYOR. WHEREAS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH OBSERVED FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH CELEBRATES THE HISTORIES, CULTURE, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICANS WHOSE ANCESTORS COME FROM SPAIN, MEXICO, THE CARIBBEAN, AND CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA, AND WHEREAS THE OBSERVANCE BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 15TH , THE ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE FOR COSTA RICA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, NICARAGUA, AND ALSO INCLUDES MEXICO'S INDEPENDENCE DAY ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, AND CHILE ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARROLLTON IS PROUD TO BE HOME TO A DIVERSE AND GROWING HISPANIC AND LATINO POPULATION THAT CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE CITY'S CULTURE, ECONOMY, PUBLIC SERVICE, AND COMMUNITY LIFE, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARROLLTON IS PROUD TO BE THE HOME TO A GROWING HISPANIC AND LATINO POPULATION WHOSE LEADERSHIP , ENTREPRENEURSHIP, AND CULTURAL CONTRIBUTIONS STRENGTHEN THE CITIES REFLECTED IN SERVICE OF LEADERS SUCH AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AND DR. ANDREW PALACIOS, AND CELEBRATED THROUGH THE WORK OF THE COMPANY OF CARROLLTON FROM INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH HAS SPENT THE LAST 10 YEARS BUILDING A STRONG , FORGIVE ME, PROGRAM, ADVOCATING FOR CULTURAL DANCE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND INSPIRING STUDENTS, ALUMNI, AND FAMILIES TO CARRY FORWARD THESE TRADITIONS. AND WHERE IS THE CITY OF CARROLLTON REAFFIRMS ITS COMMITMENT TO RECOGNIZING AND HONORING THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS SUPPORTING EFFORTS THAT PROMOTE EQUALITY, INCLUSION, AND SHARED OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL. NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR PRO TEM

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CHRISTOPHER AXFORD ON BEHALF OF MAYOR STEVE BABICK OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH , 2025, AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE A PICTURE.

FORGIVE ME, YES, THANK YOU, I'M ALSO RECOGNIZING OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DIGNITARIES FROM THE AREA, WE HAVE WITH US THIS EVENING CARROLLTON ISD TRUSTEE CAROLYN B AND BONITOS. CAROLYN? AND JUSTICE BLANCO IS ALSO HERE WITH US. JUSTICE BLANCO. THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE. COME OVER HERE IN FRONT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW, I'D LIKE TO INVITE CREEK VIEW TO PERFORM FOR THE AUDIENCE. PLEASE WELCOME OUR CREEK VIEW DANCERS.

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>> WELL DONE. THAT WAS REALLY COOL. THANK YOU. EXCITING.

>> OKAY. NEXT, WE HAVE THE MAYOR SPOTLIGHT AWARD. THE MAYOR SPOTLIGHT AWARD IS PART OF CARROLLTON'S BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION PROGRAM CREATED TO CELEBRATE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE SHAPING THE CITY'S FUTURE. THIS AWARD RECOGNIZES COMPANIES THAT EMBODY INNOVATION, GROWTH, AND EXCELLENCE THESE ARE BUSINESSES THAT NOT ONLY SUCCEED IN THEIR OWN RIGHT, BUT ALSO STRENGTHEN THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. TO BE ELIGIBLE, A COMPANY MUST BE BASED IN CARROLLTON, DEMONSTRATE CONSISTENT GROWTH AND EXCELLENCE AND SHOW COMMITMENT TO BEING ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE BUSINESSES THAT REPRESENT MORE THAN ECONOMIC SUCCESS. THEY ARE INNOVATORS, LEADERS, AND TRUE PARTNERS IN BUILDING THE CARROLLTON OF TOMORROW. TONIGHT, WE ARE PROUD TO SHINE THE SPOTLIGHT ON BUZZ BALLS. BUZZ BALLS INCENTIVIZE THE SPIRIT OF CARROLLTON , BOLD, INNOVATIVE, AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN. THE SUCCESS STORY IS ONE THAT INSPIRES ALL OF US, AND THEIR IMPACT IS WHEN WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR. ON BEHALF OF OUR HONORABLE MAYOR, STEVE BABICK, IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT THE MAYOR'S SPOTLIGHT AWARD TO BUZZ BALL.

BUZZ BALL IS ONE OF CARROLLTON'S GREATEST SUCCESS STORIES. AND WHEN IT WAS BUILT FROM A BOLD IDEA, FOUNDED IN 2009, FIVE FORMER HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER MARLENE KICK. WHAT BEGAN

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AS A MASTERS THESIS HAS GROWN INTO A BILLION-DOLLAR COMPANY .

TODAY, BUZZ BALLS REPRESENTS PRODUCTS THAT ARE SOLD IN ALL 50 STATES, AND 29 COUNTRIES WORLDWIDE. WE ARE PROUD THAT THIS TRAILBLAZING GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED BRAND CONTINUED TO CALL CARROLLTON HOME. SHOWCASING THE INNOVATION AND OF BERNARDO SPIRIT THAT DEFINES OUR CITY. WE NEXT HAVE A SHORT VIDEO PRESENTATION.

>>

>> I'D LIKE TO WELCOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR JENNY FELDER AND ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE YOU TO VICE PRESIDENT BUZZBALLZ.

PLEASE COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> GOOD EVENING. FOR HAVING ME AT THIS EVENT. I'M HONORED TO ACCEPT THE AWARD ON BEHALF OF BUZZ BALL, AND SO APPRECIATIVE OF MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, JENNY, AND THE CITY OF CARROLLTON.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF THE BUZZ BALL TEAM, IT'S BEEN A WILD RIDE. I REMEMBER IN 2013 I HAD JUST GRADUATED MY UNDERGRAD, IN A BIOCHEM, AND JOINED BUZZBALLZ SALES TEAM. WE WERE 30 EMPLOYEES, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. FAST-FORWARD TO TODAY, OVER 1200 EMPLOYEES, 630,000 SQUARE FEET. AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A LOT BACK THEN, WE WERE MAKING 40,000 CASES OF BUZZBALLZ A YEAR, THERE IS 24 BUZZBALLZ IN A CASE. TODAY, WE MAKE 40,000 CASES IN 12 HOURS. SO, WE'VE GROWN DRAMATICALLY .

EVERY YEAR IS LIKE DRINKING STRAIGHT FROM THE FIRE HYDRANT.

WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR IT, SO THANKFUL FOR THE SUPPORT FROM THE TEAM AT THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, PROUD TO CALL IT HOME AND TO BE A MEMBER OF IT. WE'RE NOT DONE GROWING YET, WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE ABOUT FOUR TIMES THE DEMAND IN THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS. SO WE'RE EXCITED FOR WHAT'S TO

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COME, IT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING. BUT WE'RE READY FOR IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT, THANK YOU AGAIN.

>> NEXT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE CHRISTINE JONES, CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER OF UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE. I HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE TO READ.

WHEREAS UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY PROVIDES LIVES BY MOBILIZING COMMUNITIES LIKE THE CITY OF CARROLLTON TO ACTION SO THAT ALL RESIDENTS MAY THRIVE, AND WHEREAS UNITED IS THE WAY WE CREATE A HEALTHY DENTON COUNTY COMMUNITY WITH STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE, WELLNESS, AND FINANCIAL SECURITY, WHERE EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF AGE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FLOURISH, AND WHEREAS BY WORKING TOGETHER TO CO-CREATE SOLUTIONS TO PEOPLE'S MOST PRESSING CHALLENGES , UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY POSITIVELY IMPACTS THE LIVES OF MORE THAN 54,000 LOCAL RESIDENTS ANNUALLY, AND WHEREAS UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY LEADS THE EFFORT WITH A STRONG NETWORK OF NONPROFITS, GOVERNMENTS, BUSINESSES, AND DONORS TO RESPOND TO OUR NEIGHBOR'S IMMEDIATE NEEDS, WHILE ALSO SEEKING STABILITY SOLUTIONS FOR LARGER COMMUNITYWIDE ISSUES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHRISTOPHER AXFORD, MAYOR PRO TEM, ON BEHALF OF THE HONORABLE STEPHEN BABICK, MAYOR, OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2025 AS UNITED IS THE WAY MONTH.

CONGRATULATIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A COUPLE WORDS?

>> A LITTLE SHORTER. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ON BEHALF OF UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY, THE BOARD, OUR BOARD CHAIRMAN HERE, CHIEF THOMPSON, WHO YOU ALL ARE NOT STRANGER TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF OF THE 54,000 RESIDENTS WHO THANK YOU TO MAYOR BABICK, DEPUTY MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND CITY OF CARROLLTON FOR YOUR SUPPORT. FROM HEALTH AND FINANCIAL INSECURITY TO AT RISK STUDENTS AND VICTIMS OF ABUSE AND NEGLECT, UNITED IS THE WAY TO FIND THE SOLUTIONS TO THE CHALLENGES THAT FACE OUR GROWING COUNTY. ALL WORKING TOGETHER , COLLABORATIVELY, TO CREATE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY PERSON IN DENTON COUNTY TO THRIVE. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF CARROLLTON FOR BEING A STRONG PARTNER WITH UNITED WAY, AND FOR BEING PART OF THE WAY AND HOSTING A WORKPLACE CAMPAIGN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF. OKAY. MOVING ON. I INVITE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF TO THE PODIUM, AND BRIANNA NASH.

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>> ONCE AGAIN ON BEHALF OF OUR MAYOR, I WILL READ THIS PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE THEME OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH 2025 IS PREPAREDNESS STARTS AT HOME, REMINDING US THAT THE ACTIONS WE TAKE IN OUR HOUSEHOLDS FORM THE FOUNDATION OF A SAFER, STRONGER COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS CARROLLTON FAMILIES , SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, AND NEIGHBORHOODS ALL PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN PREPARING FOR THE UNEXPECTED. FROM SEVERE WEATHER AND HEALTH EMERGENCIES TO LARGE-SCALE DISASTERS. AND WHEREAS READINESS NOT ONLY PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY, BUT ALSO STRENGTHENS RESILIENCE, REDUCES RECOVERY TIME AND ENSURES THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN CONTINUE TO THRIVE IN THE FACE OF CHALLENGES. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARROLLTON'S FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM EXEMPLIFY DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM , SERVING ON THE FRONT LINES WHILE ALSO PROVIDING TRAINING, RESOURCES, AND EDUCATION TO EMPOWER RESIDENTS TO PREPARE FOR DISASTER STRIKES. AND WHEREAS PREPAREDNESS IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY, AND WHEN EVERY HOUSEHOLD TAKES STEPS SUCH AS CREATING AN EMERGENCY KIT, REVIEWING COMMUNICATION PLANS, AND STAYING INFORMED, OUR ENTIRE CITY BECOMES MORE SECURE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHRISTOPHER AXBERG, MAYOR PRO TEM, ON BEHALF OF OUR MAYOR, THE HONORABLE STEVE BABICK, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2025 AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM. PREPAREDNESS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN CARROLLTON, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD PROGRAM, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY. IT'S HONORABLE TO BE ABLE TO LEAD IT, IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE GREAT SPECIALS LIKE RYAN, AND I CAN SAY THAT THE THREE THINGS I HAVE A PLATFORM REAL QUICK, EMERGENCY KIT, SO, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE STORM IS COMING LATER TONIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> OKAY. FINALLY, WE HAVE OUR LIFE SITTING AWARD. WE WILL PRESENT THE LIFE-SAVING AWARD, I INVITE FIRE CHIEF THOMPSON, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR JODY BARELY, AND PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER JOSH KERN TO THE PODIUM. THERE YOU ARE, CHIEF. YOU GOT THAT?

OKAY. >> IF I COULD ALSO INVITE ANY MEMBERS OF PUBLIC WORKS THAT ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT TO COME FORWARD. AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS FROM CFR TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE. ANOTHER BIG PICTURE FOR YOU. WHILE EVERYBODY IS COMING UP, I WANT TO THANK MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO, RECOGNIZE THE GREAT WORK THAT WE GET TO DO IN CARROLLTON EVEN WHEN IT HAPPENS 40,000 FEET IN THE AIR. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO HONOR JOSH. FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AND HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT AND SAVING A LIFE. A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, ON AUGUST 20TH 2025 WHILE TRAVELING ABOARD AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 1290 TWO DALLAS-FORT WORTH, RETURNING FROM A CONFERENCE, A PASSENGER EXPERIENCED SEVEN MEDICAL EMERGENCY. THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS REQUESTED ASSISTANCE FROM ANYONE WHO HAD MEDICAL TRAINING WAS ON THE FLIGHT. AND OUR OWN PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER ,

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WHO IS TRAINED AS A PUBLIC WORKS FIRST RESPONDER, JOSH COHEN, STEPPED FORWARD TO ASSIST. THE ELDERLY PATIENT OR PASSENGER WAS STRUGGLING WITH SEVERE REPERTORY DIFFICULTIES DUE TO A FAILURE OF HIS OXYGEN MACHINE. JOSH RESPONDED BY DRAWING FROM HIS TRAINING TO MONITOR THE PATIENT'S VITAL SIGNS, AS WELL AS A MINISTER OXYGEN AND PROVIDE A CALM REASSURING PRESENCE TO STABILIZE THE PATIENT'S CONDITION. JOSH'S ACTIONS AND SURE THE PASSENGER IN DISTRESS RECEIVED IMMEDIATE MEDICAL CARE HE NEEDED, BUT ALSO AVERTED AN EMERGENCY LANDING WHICH ALLOW THE FLIGHT TO ARRIVE SAFELY IN DALLAS WHERE THE PASSENGER RECEIVED ADVANCED CARE FROM AIRPORT EMS STAFF. THIS INCIDENT REFLECTS THE IDENTITY AND COMMITMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AS FIRST RESPONDERS. FOR STRONG PARTNERSHIPS WITH CARROLLTON FIRE RESCUE ARE PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES ARE TRAINED AS BASIC LIFESAVERS, EQUIPPING THEM TO ACT DECISIVELY IN MOMENTS WHERE SAFETY AND HUMAN LIFE HANG IN THE BALANCE. THIS COLLABORATION AND ENSURES THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF PUBLIC WORKS ARE NOT ONLY SKILLED TRADES PEOPLE DEDICATED TO BUILDING AND MAINTAINING OUR VITAL STRUCTURE, ARE TRAINED RESPONDERS READY TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL SCOPE OF THEIR WORK.

IN RECOGNITION OF HIS DECISIVE ACTIONS, PROFESSIONAL SKILLS, AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CITY OF CARROLLTON AND CARROLLTON FINAL RESCUE COMMAND JOSH FOR THE STANDARDS OF SERVICE, HIS ACTIONS REPRESENT NOT ONLY PERSONAL EXCELLENCE BUT A COLLABORATIVE STRENGTH OF PUBLIC WORKS AND FIRE RESCUE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP, ALWAYS PREPARED, ALWAYS READY, ALWAYS DEDICATED TO PROTECTING LIVES AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE JOSHES EXEMPLARY EFFORTS WITH A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION AND A CHALLENGE COIN.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, IS A HUGE HONOR TO STAND HERE THIS EVENING. IT'S A BIGGER HONOR TO PARTNER WITH THE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF POLICE AND FIRE TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN. I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY TAKES SOMETHING FROM THIS, THAT PUBLIC WORKS CAN OPERATE OUTSIDE OUR TRADITIONAL SCOPE. IF WE ALL JUST TURN A SHOVEL, WE'RE IN THE TRENCHES, BUT, WE CAN BE SO MUCH MORE.

FIRE DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU ALL.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO, NEXT, ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA. SORRY. OH, SORRY. NEXT WE HAVE THE CITIZENS COMMENT ON

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THE AGENDA ITEMS. 14 THROUGH 26. I WILL NOW OPEN THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD FOR ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA, WHICH ARE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 26. I HAVE SOME CARDS. THE FIRST CARD I HAVE IS FROM FORMER COUNCILMEMBER ADAM POULTER. COMMENTING ON ITEM NUMBER 25.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCIL. WE'VE GOT TO STOP MEETING LIKE THIS. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO, I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 25 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, I APPRECIATE THAT IT WAS PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I DO WANT TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE BREAK WITH PRESIDENT DURING THIS EVENING'S

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WORK SESSION, WHEN EACH INDIVIDUAL CONSENT ITEM WAS NOT DEBATED OR DISCUSSED INDIVIDUALLY. WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC, I THINK AT LEAST MENTIONING THOSE, READING THEM, HAVING ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE ASKED, THAT'S HELPFUL TO THE PUBLIC AND IT PROMOTES TRANSPARENCY. ESPECIALLY, ITEM 25. FOR $1.8 MILLION, AND IT WAS PRIMARILY DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE DISCUSSION OUT OF VIEW OF THE PUBLIC. THE ITEMS THAT Y'ALL DID NOT DISCUSS TONIGHT THAT WERE LEANED OVER, THAT ACCOUNTS FOR $8.42 MILLION. THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO SEE ANY DEBATE OR QUESTION OR MENTION OF UNLESS THEY READ THE AGENDA. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT Y'ALL GO BACK TO REVIEWING EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY, DURING THE WORK SESSIONS. ITEM 25, THERE IS NO ROI. IN THIS, NORMALLY WE TALK ABOUT THIS, IS GOING TO BE FUTURE DOLLARS. TAX REBATES, REBATES ON PROPERTY TAX, OF WHICH THERE IS NO INCREASE. WE ARE DOING REBATES ON FUTURE SALES TAX, OR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, ANOTHER THAT EXISTS WITH THIS. SO, THERE IS NO RETURN FOR THE CITY, AND $1.8 MILLION, FROM MY TIME ON COUNCIL, THAT'S A HUGE INCENTIVE. Y'ALL MAY RECALL THAT FOR THE STATION DEVELOPMENT, WE INCENTIVIZE THAT OFFICE BUILDING , THAT WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION TO THE TUNE OF $2 MILLION, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING, LET THE LANDLORD, LET THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF THEY WANT TO ATTRACT THIS BUSINESS TO CARROLLTON, LET THEM PROVIDE THAT $1.8 MILLION. $1.8 MILLION, THAT'S 10 TO 12 POLICE OFFICERS, THAT COULD BE ON OUR STREETS FOR A YEAR. THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND YOUR DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.

ADDITIONALLY THIS COMPANY, PENNY MACK, THIS IS THE NEXT ITERATION OF COUNTRYWIDE. THE FOUNDER, MANY OF THE TOP EXECUTIVES, COUNTRYWIDE WAS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN 2007 AND THE RECESSION THAT FOLLOWED. AND PENNY MAX BUSINESS MODEL, AS I SEE, IS CAPITALIZING ON THAT , ON THE CARNAGE THAT THE MORTGAGE CRISIS AND ECONOMIC CRISIS RESULTED IN. I DON'T, WHY WOULD WE INVITE COUNTRYWIDE? WHY WOULD WE PAY COUNTRYWIDE TO COME TO OUR BORDERS AFTER THE HISTORY OF WHAT THAT DID TO OUR COUNTRY? I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THIS, AND VOTE AGAINST IT. WE CAN SPEND $1.8 MILLION IN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE MANY, MANY OTHER WAYS. THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A

RETURN, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT THE AGENDA IS POSTED ON WEDNESDAY, FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO VIEW. AS MR. POULTER DEMONSTRATED IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT THEY'RE AT LIBERTY TO DO SO.

AND AS A REMINDER AS WELL, DURING THE WORK SESSION, I CERTAINLY INVITED ANY OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT OR DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO, THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS LOOKS LIKE HARPER ANDREWS, I BELIEVE. WANTS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.

MR. ANDREWS, OUR MY DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. SO, FOR CONTEXT, THIS IS THE AGENDA ITEM ABOUT A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE HOW DARTS REPRESENTATION WORKS A LITTLE BIT. I AM IN FAVOR OF EVERY CITY BEING GIVEN A REPRESENTATIVE, DIRECTOR, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR, I DON'T THINK TO PUT SOMEONE IN A POSITION TO REPRESENT TWO DIFFERENT CITIES.

I JUST ASKED THAT, WE AS YOUR CONSTITUENTS, A REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD BE , SORRY. IT'S A JOB OF A REPRESENTATIVE TO PRIMARILY

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FOCUS ON REPRESENTING THEIR CONSTITUENTS. WHEN WE'RE REFORMING OR CHANGING THE SYSTEM IN SOME WAY, THE FOCUS I THINK SHOULD BE ON OVERALL FAIRNESS , PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED AND NOT JUST BY NUMBER OF CITIES. SO, I ASK THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE SUBURBS THAT THAT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY, THAT THEY DON'T GET MORE REPRESENTATION UNFAIRLY COMPARED TO FIRST CITIZEN IN DALLAS. AND I ALSO HAD A SMALL POTATO CONCERN, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE LEGALESE, BUT, THE WORDING USED , ARTICLE A4 DIRECTOR, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IMPLIES SPECIFICALLY ONE DIRECTOR PER CITY OR IF IT'S AT LEAST ONE.

AT LEAST ONE IS FINE, BUT, I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT SAID THAT EVERY CITY ONLY GOT EXACTLY ONE.

BEYOND VOTING WEIGHTING, WHICH IS A REASONABLE THING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT INFLATING IT RIDICULOUSLY THE SIZE OF THE BODY AND ARE SUITABLE TO HAVE GOOD DECISIONS, OR GOOD REPRESENTATION, BUT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH ENOUGH TO REPLACE HAVING SOME PROPORTIONAL , WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S 13, 12 OTHER CITIES, WHO HAVE 12 OR PRESENTED LIVES, AND THEN DALLAS HAS ONE PERSON. SO, ANYWAY. PLEASE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THAT YOU ARE PRIORITIZING ACTUAL THEIR PRESERVATION AND NOT THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS QUAN LEE. WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM 26.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCILMEMBERS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM 26. I PERSONALLY SUPPORT HAVING A FULL REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTING OUR CITY. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WORKING HALF AND HALF BETWEEN CARROLLTON AND IRVING. WE MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAN IRVING AND WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN US AND THEM. AND AWAITED SYSTEM DOES MAKE SENSE, IT DOES IN THE PAST, I BELIEVE THEY'VE HAD UP TO 25 BOARD MEMBERS AND IT BECAME TOO UNWIELDY TO MAKE A PROPER DECISION ON IMPORTANT MATTERS. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT WEIGHTED SYSTEM, THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. AS THEY SAY. I REMEMBER IN THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, SENATOR PARKER HAD HIS BILL FOR REDOING THE REPRESENTATION OF THE BOARD.

SO THAT BILL, I BELIEVE, GAVE DALLAS A 20% REPRESENTATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DO NOT WANT THE BOARD BE CONTROLLED BY ONE CITY. RIGHT NOW, DALLAS HAS EIGHT BOARD MEMBERS. AND THEY CAN BAND TOGETHER, AND GET A MAJORITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT, THEY ARE 50% OF THE POPULATION, AND IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU MANIPULATE THE WAITING, SO, LET'S SAY THEY HAVE , LIKE IN SENATOR PARKER'S BILL, 20% OR SOMETHING LESS THAN 50, IT BRINGS INTO QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE AUTHORITY. A PROPER REGIONAL TRANSIT SYSTEM IS NOT A SYSTEM MEANT TO FAVOR ONE GROUP OVER THE OTHER, REGARDLESS OF THEIR POLITICAL POWER OR THE AMOUNT OF TAXES THEY PAY INTO THE BUDGET.

AND THEY SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD HAVE EQUITY. IT SHOULD HAVE A QUALITY WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE SYSTEM. AND, IF IT CAN'T REPRESENT EVERYONE EQUALLY, WITHIN THE MEMBER CITIES, ALL OF US, THE ENTIRE 13 MEMBER CITIES, BECOME LESSER FOR IT, AND THE AUTHORITY ITSELF LOSE LEGITIMACY, AND VIABILITY.

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AS NEGOTIATIONS KEEP GOING, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A SET SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. PLEASE THINK OF IT ON A REGIONAL LEVEL, NOT JUST ON OUR LOCAL CITY LEVEL. THERE'S WAYS TO INCREASE OUR VOICE AND THE VOICES OF OTHER SMALL CITIES, LIKE HOPPER HILL, HIGHLAND PARK, WITHOUT SEVERELY AFFECTING THE VOICES AND REPRESENTATION OF THE BIGGER CITIES. AND, THE FACT THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE ONGOING AND PROGRESSING IS PROOF THAT DALLAS ARE LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND WE NEED TO RESPECT THAT. AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE EQUAL PARTNERS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN

THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MR. LEE. THANK YOU, MR. LEE, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS, SORRY. SO, THIS IS ALL THE CARDS I HAVE FOR ITEMS CONCERNING THE AGENDA. IF ANYONE ELSE HAS A COMMENT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. PERTAINING TO

ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. >> YES, HI, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 25. MY NAME IS LISA SUTTER.

>> YOU GOT THREE MINUTES. >> YOU NEED MY ADDRESS?

>> NO, WE HAVE IT ON FILE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 25. I KNOW OVER ALL THE YEARS BEING ON COUNCIL FROM 2009 TO 2015, WE DID A LOT OF INCENTIVES IN THE AREA, THAT HAVE PAID OFF FOR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, INCLUDING RANGE 99, WE GAVE MORE FUNDS, RANGE 99, AND A LOOK AT RANCH 99 IN THE SHOPPING CENTER. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS POSSIBLY 1800 JOBS COMING TO THE AREA. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT , GREAT MONEY TO SPEND FOR THE CITY. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER FOR THE COMMENTS. I'LL INVITE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME UP AND COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEMS. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE

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CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, AND ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 14 THROUGH 24. AND 26 AS AMENDED. AND WE'RE PULLING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 25 FOR DISCUSSION. SO, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER CLINE .

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 14 THROUGH 24, AND 26.

>> AS STIPULATED. AND, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, .

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT

MOTION. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION, AND A SECOND, TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 14 THROUGH 24 , AND 26 AS AMENDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL THE BOAT.

>> AND THE VOTE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NOW, WE CAN

[*25. Consider A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Negotiate And Execute An Economic Development Incentive Agreement With Pennymac Loan Services, LLC, Establishing A Program Of Grants To The Company For Its Relocation And The Creation Of Jobs At 5025 Plano Parkway To Promote Local Economic Development And Stimulate Business And Commercial Activity Within The City For A Job Creation Grant Amount Not To Exceed $1,800,000.]

BRING UP ITEM NUMBER 25 FOR DISCUSSION. I'LL READ IT OUT.

ITEM 25. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGERS TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH PENNYMAC LOAN SERVICES LLC ESTABLISHING A PROGRAM OF GRANTS TO THE COMPANY FOR ITS RELOCATION AND THE CREATION OF JOBS AT 5025 PLANO PARKWAY, TO PROMOTE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND STIMULATE BUSINESS AND

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COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CITY FOR JOB CREATION GRANT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1.8 MILLION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING.

>> YES, SIR, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM. IN LOOKING AT THE KEY PURPOSE FOR THE CHAPTER AGREEMENTS, WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES AND CHARACTER GROWTH OF EXISTING BUSINESS, AND WHEN I LOOK, I ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER TODAY DURING OUR WORK SESSION REGARDING WHAT LOCATION WOULD PENNYMAC BE LOCATING FROM, AND I WAS TOLD PLANO. AND THEN FORT WORTH. BUT, AFTER YOU EVALUATE THIS NEW LOCATION, WHERE THEY'RE MOVING TO DO, TO THE WEST YOU HAVE PLANO, A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH THEY HAVE LOUISVILLE AND THE COLONY. TYPICALLY, YOU SAY THAT A COMPANY, ITS EMPLOYEES WILL EAT AND BUY GOODS AND SERVICES TYPICALLY IN A THREE MILE RADIUS AROUND THAT. MOST OF THAT RADIUS IS NOT IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THAT AND I EVALUATE THE BENEFIT FOR US, I SEE VERY LITTLE SALES TAX DOLLARS COMING BACK TO THE CITY. I FIND IT QUITE ODD THAT PENNYMAC , I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID OR NOT, BUT, THEY RECEIVE ANY TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT FROM THE CITY OF PLANO.

KIND OF WHAT I SEE HERE IS MUSICAL CHAIRS COMING INTO CARROLLTON, BECAUSE WE PROVIDE THEM WITH THIS GRANT, RIGHT? AND I JUST DON'T SEE, OVERALL, WHAT IS IT, HOW IS IT BENEFITING THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, AND THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, FOR $1.8 MILLION? JOB CREATION, TO INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES TO CREATE NEW JOBS.

THERE'S LITTLE QUESTION TO ME AS TO HOW MANY JOBS THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CREATE. AND THE REASON WHY I EXERCISED SKEPTICISM IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPANY THAT WAS AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION BEFORE, I DON'T THINK THEY FULLY REALIZED THEIR POTENTIAL, THERE, IN THE SENSE THAT THE CITY OF CARROLLTON DIDN'T GET ALL OF OUR , OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS BACK, IN A RETURN. THEY RELOCATED, BUT YET WE GAVE THEM AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE. AND IT WAS A POSTER AND 2018 OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO BE GREAT STEWARDS OF THESE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE'VE GIVEN THESE COMPANIES, AND FOR THIS, I JUST DON'T SEE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHEN I LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH. WHEN I LOOK AT PROPERTY TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES ARE WHAT THEY ARE, I LOOK AT THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, MORTGAGE COMPANIES NOT REALLY HAVING ANY TYPE OF INVENTORY, NO MAJOR ASSETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO ASSESS VALUE ON. SO I DON'T SEE MUCH TAX REVENUE GROWTH ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR US. WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBERS, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR

AGENDA ITEM. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION, I'M NOT SURE, COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT THIS WOULD BE FUNDED FROM TAXPAYER MONEY. IS THAT HOW THIS IS BEING FUNDED? I'M SORRY? MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT?

>> WE'VE GOT -- DIRECTOR, CAN YOU COME UP AND ANSWER THAT

QUESTION FOR US? THANK YOU. >> DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT, IT IS COMING OUT OF THE ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT FUND. >> NOT THE GENERAL FUND. GREAT, THANK YOU, I WOULD ALSO JUST SAY, APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT. I THINK THAT FOR ME, PERSONALLY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS AN IMPORTANT FACET WITHIN OUR CITY, I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO EQUATE SOME SORT OF SALES TAX DOLLAR TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT COME IN THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THIS IN THE WRONG WAY. I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE VALUE THAT HAVING A COMPANY BRING THAT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES TO OUR CITY AND TO FILL A BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY EMPTY IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE, AND IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY , AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT, NOT JUST FROM A SALES TAX DOLLAR STANDPOINT OR WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EAT, I THINK THERE'S MUCH MORE TO IT, AND I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS.

>> AND IF I MAY WELL I HAVE YOU UP HERE, DIRECTOR. IF I REMEMBER FROM THE WORK SESSION, YOU SAID SPECIFICALLY THAT THE EXPECTATION IS 1800 NEW JOBS COMING TO CARROLLTON. WITH THIS

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PARTICULAR COMPANY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. HOWEVER, THE INCENTIVE IS FOR 1200 EMPLOYEES,

NOT THE ENTIRE WORKFORCE. >> THE INCENTIVE SPECIFICALLY IS OUT LAID , AND IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE 1200 AND THEN WHAT

HAPPENS? >> IF THEY DON'T MEET, IF THEY DON'T GET THE PAYOUT FOR THAT INCENTIVE.

>> THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE 1200 THRESHOLD JOB

REQUIREMENT. >> THEY NEED TO MEET THOSE JOB REQUIREMENTS FIRST AND CERTIFY THAT THEY'VE MADE, THAT THEY'VE

PERFORMED, YES. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING.

>> COUNCILMEMBER PRINTER TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUNDS COMING FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. WHICH ARE, WHAT DO THOSE FUNDS COME FROM? WHAT ARE THOSE FUNDS COME FROM?

>> THEY COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

>> SO THOSE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, CORRECT?

>> IT WOULD BE, YES. >> OKAY. ALSO, I ALLUDED TO EARLIER REGARDING BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH IN A SENSE OF BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AT HIS CURRENT LOCATION, AM I CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND VERY MINIMAL SALES TAX DOLLARS. SO THIS IS BASICALLY, AS YOU STATED BEFORE, THIS IS A JOB CREATION GRANT, RIGHT? AND, DO WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY HOW MANY JOBS ARE BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE CITY OF PLANO AND FROM THE

CITY OF FORT WORTH? >> NOT EXACT JOBS. THERE'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST THREE TO 400 COMING FROM THE PLANO LOCATION. THE BULK MAJORITY OF THE JOBS ARE GOING TO BE NEW BECAUSE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S FIVE LOCATIONS THAT ARE CONSOLIDATING INTO ONE OFFICE. SO, FOR THE THREE OUT-OF-STATE LOCATIONS, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT EMPLOYEE IS GOING TO WANT TO MOVE TO TEXAS OR NOT. THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE TBD, BUT I WAS IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF JOBS ARE

GOING TO BE NEW. >> AND THE YOU HAVE ANY DATA REGARDING THE PAYBACK PERIOD FOR ANY TYPE OF ANALYSIS THAT WOULD SHOW WHEN THAT ONE $.8 MILLION , WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY REALIZE

THAT? >> I DO IN AN IMPACT REPORT THAT

I CAN SHARE WITH YOU AFTER. >> OKAY. THAT'S ALL THAT I

HAVE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU, I MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE ITEM 25. >> DEPUTY PRO TEM .

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. TO PASS ITEM NUMBER 25 .

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL A VOTE. AND, THE VOTE PASSES, 6-1. WITH ONE NO VOTE FROM COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. OKAY. WITH THAT, OUR LAST ITEM

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ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC FORUM, NON-AGENDA ITEMS. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM PERIOD FOR ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED TWO MINUTES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE, FOR THE RECORD. I HAVE CARDS HERE THAT WE'LL START WITH. FIRST CARD I HAVE HERE IS FROM NATALIE LAVORO. WISHES TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN A PUBLIC FORUM. IF YOU'LL COME TO THE PODIUM. DO

YOU NEED ASSISTANCE? >> HEY, ALL, THANK YOU FOR

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COMING OUT TONIGHT, IT'S MY FIRST ONE, GO EASY ON ME. SO, COMPOST IS THE TOPIC I LIKE TO BRING UP. I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF WHETHER IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP PRIOR TO TONIGHT, BUT, I KNOW AS A SPECIES WE COMPOSTED UP UNTIL ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO, AND PLASTICS TOOK OVER, BUT, COMPOST IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PLANET, AND IT'S OUR PAST AND IT'S OUR FUTURE, IF WE WANT TO SUSTAIN THE PLANET. AS WE LIVE ON IT, AND MINIMIZE THE CLIMATE CHAOS.

BUT, YEAH. DO ANY OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COMPOST AT ALL?

>> I'M SORRY, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND DIRECTLY.

BUT, WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU MAKE WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO CONTACT

YOU AFTER THE MEETING. >> OKAY. YEAH, COMPOST IS JUST MATERIALS THAT CAN REPLENISH INTO SOIL, ONCE AGAIN, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL DID AS A SPECIES, LIKE I SAID, AND EVERYTHING IS COMPOSTABLE EXCEPT FOR MODERN INVENTIONS LIKE PLASTICS, A LOT OF MIXTURES AND METALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, BASICALLY, IF WE WANT TO HELP THE FUTURE GENERATIONS, AND KEEP THE AIR CLEAN, AND KEEP OUR RIVERS RUNNING, WE WANT TO REITERATE COMPOST IN OUR LIVES. ADDITIONALLY, IT'S A HUGE ASPECT OF REDUCING METHANE GAS. WHICH IS SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE ADVANCED, BUT, WHENEVER THINGS A SIT AROUND IN A LANDFILL, EVEN THE WORD LANDFILL IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS, BECAUSE THE WORD IS ABSURD, LAND IS NOT TO BE FILLED WITH ITEMS, BUT JUST SIT THERE, AND THEY DON'T EVEN ROT PROPERLY COMPOST ALLOWS IT TO ROT. AND ENJOY THE CYCLE OF LIFE. LANDFILLS INHIBIT OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN COMMUNITIES, AND TO LIVE OFF THE LAND. AND I KNOW TEXAS HAS A LOT OF DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS OF ALL OF THE LANDFILLS WE HAVE AND WE SPENT SO MUCH TAX MONEY ON IT, BUT, YEAH. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE DALLAS. IF Y'ALL FEEL COMPETITIVE , I WOULD LIKE TO GET AHEAD IN THAT WAY. YEAH. DALLAS DOESN'T HAVE COMPOST BUT A LOT OF CITIES IN

THE U.S. DO, AND SOME CITIES -- >> I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO

WRAP UP. >> A LOT OF THEM SELL THE SOIL BACK TO PEOPLE SO THERE'S A PROFIT TO BE MADE, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE BEING CHARGED $12 MILLION A YEAR TO THROW THINGS INTO LAND TO SIT THERE. AND CREATE A TOXIC GAS. SO, LET'S STOP THAT . AND CREATE HOPE FOR THE FUTURE, FOR FUTURE

GENERATIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

REST ASSURED THAT EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T RESPOND, YOU HAVE OUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS THOMAS CHAR. YOU LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THE PODIUM? PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND YOU'LL HAVE

THREE MINUTES. >> HELLO, MY ADDRESS IS 4551 INAUDIBLE ] CARROLLTON, TEXAS, 75010. THANK YOU. HONORABLE MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, AND CITIZENS OF CARROLLTON CITY, GOOD EVENING. WE ARE HONORED TODAY TO STAND BEFORE YOU AS A PROUD CITIZEN OF CARROLLTON CITY, AND TO EXTEND A WARM INVITATION ON BEHALF OF OF THE APS IN IRVING. WE INVITE THE HONORABLE MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND EACH MEMBER OF THE CARROLLTON CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF CARROLLTON RESIDENTS TO JOIN US IN CELEBRATING THE AUSPICIOUS FESTIVAL OF DIWALI, ALSO KNOWN AS THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS. ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, FROM 1:00 P.M. ONWARD TILL 8:00 P.M. SUNDAY AND MONDAY IN IRVING. DIWALI CARRIES A PROFOUND SIGNIFICANCE ACROSS VARIOUS CULTURES. IT SYMBOLIZES VICTORY OF GOOD OVER EVIL,

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KNOWLEDGE OVER IGNORANCE, AND HOPE OVER DESPAIR. IT IS A MULTI-DAY FESTIVAL OBSERVED OVER A SPAN OF ONE TO FIVE DAYS DEPENDING ON REGIONAL AND PERSONAL STATIONS. WHILE DIWALI IS PRIMARY CELEBRATED BY HINDUS , IT'S CENTRAL THEME OF LIGHT RESONATES THROUGH ALL OF HUMANITY. THIS FESTIVAL SERVES AS A POWERFUL SYMBOL OF UNITY BY BRIDGING GAPS BETWEEN PEOPLE AND DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS. FROM THE INTRICATE DOORSTEPS TO THE SKY WITH FIREWORKS, DIWALI CELEBRATES LIGHT THAT BRIGHTENS LIVES AND LIFTS THE HUMAN SPIRIT. IT IS A TIME FOR REFLECTION, JOY, AND RENEWAL. FOSTERING A SENSE OF TOGETHERNESS AND SHARED HAPPINESS THROUGH THE THEME OF LIGHT WITHIN, LIGHT AROUND. BY JOINING US IN IRVING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, NOT ONLY WILL YOU PARTAKE IN A BEAUTIFUL CULTURAL CELEBRATION, BUT ALSO EXPERIENCED THE UNIVERSAL MESSAGE OF UNITY AND HOPE THAT DIWALI BRINGS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING EACH MEMBER OF THE CARROLLTON CITY COUNCIL , THE MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM OF CARROLLTON CITY, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF CARROLLTON RESIDENTS AT OUR CELEBRATION. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS EVENT, PLEASE VISIT THE APS.ORG/DALLAS OR CONTACT US AT DFW.P.A. AT GMAIL.COM, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR, WELL DONE, VERY WELL DONE. YOU SHOULD BE UP IN THIS CHAIR. SO, ON THAT NOTE, WE HAVE ONE MORE WORK SESSION ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN BACK TO OUR WORK SESSION TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE, AND WE'LL ALSO DO INFORMATION SHARING AFTER OUR LAST WORK SESSION ITEM. HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYB

>> ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CALL US BACK INTO WORK SESSION FOR OUR LAST REMAINING ITEM. AND INFORMATION SHARING. WE HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE REGIONAL METROX EMERGENCY RESPONSE EXERCISE, BY OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, AND UP TO THE PODIUM.

>> SORRY. >> I NEED TO FINISH.

>> OH, OKAY. SORRY. WE'LL FINISH UP THE DISCUSSION ON CRIME TRAFFIC AND CHILD SAFETY ZONES RELATIVE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND THEN WE'LL SEE, SORRY.

>> SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHERE WE DOING THIS? WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE FACTORS, SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT FOR USE, DENSITY, OCCUPANCY, SAFETY ZONES, NOTICE, TRAFFICKING, SEP, JUST SOME OF THE DIFFERENT TOPICS. AS MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED, WE'VE INCLUDED SOME OF THOSE, TONIGHT YOU'VE HEARD FROM DR. DEL CARMEN REGARDING THE LIMITED DATA WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE LAST THREE YEARS, 21 TO 23, REGARDING CRIME STATS IN THE CITY. BUT WE HAVE A SMALL NUMBER IN THE CITY, THEY'VE GONE DOWN, AS YOU SAW, SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A SMALL NUMBER IT'S HARD TO EXTRAPOLATE DATA. BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS CHILD SAFETY ZONES. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I'M GOING TO START OFF IS, HOW CAN WE REGULATE CHILD SAFETY ZONES? WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE TO REGULATE SEX OFFENDERS? WE HAVE A SEX OFFENDER REGULATION ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT A SEX OFFENDER REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER CANNOT LIVE WITHIN 1000 FEET OF A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN COMMONLY GATHER.

WHAT ARE AUTHORITY FOR THAT? BACK IN 2007 RECOGNIZE THAT THE MUNICIPALITY HAS THE ABILITY TO REGULATE EVERYWHERE THAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT LIMIT OUR AUTHORITY. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT A FEW YEARS AGO WITH THE HEZBOLLAH THING, 2026, IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH CERTAIN RULES, PREEMPTED, IN THIS AREA THERE IS NO PREEMPTION, WE ARE ABLE TO REGULATE, AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SPECIFICALLY REGULATED THIS. INTERESTINGLY THIS OPINION WAS RELATED, WAS A QUESTION RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT GENERAL LOSS OF THESE COULD REGULATE, HE SAID SPECIFICALLY YES, GENERAL LAW CAN'T. SO, WHAT ARE SOME REGULATIONS

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RELATING TO SEX OFFENDERS? SEX OFFENDERS WHO ARE PAROLED UNDER SAID COMMUNITY SUPERVISION CANNOT LIVE WITHIN A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN COMMONLY GATHER, GENERALLY 1000 FEET. THAT IS PART OF THEIR TERMS OF PROBATION. SO, IF YOU'RE UNDER PROBATION, YOU CAN'T LIVE THERE, AND PER CITIES THAT HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS, YOU ALSO CAN'T LIVE THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE CITIES BEGAN TO MODEL THESE REGULATIONS BASED ON THESE DIFFERENT PROVISIONS UNDER STATE LAW. WHILE STATE LAW DOESN'T , STATE LAW DOESN'T PREEMPT IT, WE CAN REGULATE, AND FURTHER, COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT THERE IS NO EQUAL PROTECTION VIOLATION FOR RESTRICTING SEX OFFENDERS FROM LIVING WITHIN 1000 FEET OF A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN COMMONLY GATHER. I KNOW THAT IS THE ROLE OF EVERYBODY'S TONGUE, CHILDREN COMMONLY GATHER, BUT THAT'S THE DEFINITION THAT MOST OF THESE ADOPT, THAT'S A DEFINITION THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR CHILD SAFETY ZONE RESTRICTION. IT'S INCORPORATED IN YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. ONE OF THE CASES THAT FOUND THIS SAME THING WAS VERSUS LOUISVILLE WHICH WAS A CASE NEAR US WHERE THEY FOUND THAT A 2000 FOOT BUFFER ZONE WAS REASONABLE. WE HAVE 1000 FEET IN CARROLLTON. WHICH DOES PROVIDE FOR PLACES WITHIN THE CITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE. IT DOESN'T RESULT IN A DE FACTO BAND FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER. YOU HAVE 2000 FEET, IT COULD THEORETICALLY IN THE CITY BE A BAND, CARROLLTON HAS CHOSEN NOT TO DO THAT, NOT TO REGULATE THAT YOU CAN'T RESIDE HERE AS A SEX OFFENDER. SO, CHILD SAFETY ZONE, THE DEFINITION, FOR REMINDING YOU OF WHAT IT IS, THAT IS UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO ESTABLISH A PERMANENT RESIDENT OR TEMPORARY RESIDENT WITHIN 1000 FEET. TEMPORARY RESIDENT IS A TIME PERIOD OF LESS THAN FOUR DAYS. THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER THREE OR MORE TIMES FOR A PERIOD IN EXCESS OF 48 HOURS MUST REGISTER IN THE CITY. SO, WE SAY FOUR DAYS, STATE LAW SAYS THREE DAYS, 48 HOURS EACH, SIX DAYS. WE CAN REGULATE BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T PREEMPT US, THIS IS IN THE WEALTH. OUR FOUR DAYS IS A REASONABLE REGULATION. WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY IS OF A SEX OFFENDER WAS TO GO INTO ANY LOCATION FOR A PERIOD OF THREE DAYS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IF A SEX OFFENDER IS RESIDING THERE. ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY MANY CITIES IS ALWAYS, ALSO ON AIRBNB'S ON WEBSITE, IS TO PREVENT SEX OFFENDERS AND SEX TRAFFICKERS FROM RESIDING IN YOUR AIRBNB IS TO ALWAYS REQUIRE AT LEAST A

FIVE DAY STAY. GO AHEAD. >> IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME AND VISIT FOR LESS THAN FOUR DAYS, LEAVE, BUT THEN COME BACK TO THAT SAME LOCATION, STILL, AGAIN, FOR LESS THAN FOUR DAYS BUT NOW THEY'RE AT SIX DAYS, IS THAT WITH A BE REQUIRED?

>> UNDER STATE LAW, YES. YES. FOUR, A REGISTERED IN ANOTHER STATE, ONCE YOU'RE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT STATE YOU'RE IN. THEY CAN'T RESIDE ON A CAMPUS OF A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE UNIVERSITY. AND THEY MUST IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY A SCHOOL IF THE ANSWER IS COOL DURING SCHOOL HOURS. ACROSS THE BOARD THERE'S RELATIONS ON SEX OFFENDERS IN ADDITION TO THE REGULATIONS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED, SHOWING THAT THERE IS A COMMUNITY INTEREST IN ENSURING THE PROTECTION OF CHILDREN. WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF THE REGISTRATION? 1994, FEDERAL LAW MANDATES THE STATE CREATE FEDERAL REGISTRIES, AND COLLECTS THIS INFORMATION. AND AGAIN IN 96, IT WAS UPDATED TO REQUIRE NOTIFICATION AFTER AN INCIDENT. THE INTENT IS TO REDUCE CRIME TO GREATER PUBLIC AWARENESS, AND TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT MONITOR.

WHEN YOU HAVE A TRANSIENT POPULATION, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE LESS MONITORING BECAUSE THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT UNTIL YOU MEET THOSE CERTAIN DEADLINES. SO, THIS IS A LONG DEFINITION OF WHAT THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT. BUT, THE MCCAIN INSTITUTE IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE PREEMINENT INSTITUTES ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESEARCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY DID A SIX YEAR ANALYSIS BETWEEN 2010 AND 2015 ON ALL FACETS OF SEX TRAFFICKING OF CHILDREN. EITHER WAY, ANY RELATIONSHIP FOR A CHILD IS CONSIDERED TRAFFICKING, AND IS CONSIDERED ABUSE. BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONSENT, SO IT'S ALWAYS ABUSE WHEN IT'S CHILDREN. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT FINDINGS OUT OF THIS RESEARCH IS THAT 14% OF HOUSES WERE USED BY SEX TRAFFICKERS TO ABUSE CHILDREN.

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AND YOU SAY 14%, THAT'S NOT VERY HIGH. AIRBNB'S STARTED IN 2010.

SO, IT IS SIGNIFICANT, IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS THEY WERE ALREADY USING. MAYBE THEY OWN THE HOMES, I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT IN THAT IT WAS THE EARLY DAYS OF AIRBNB, AND 14% , AND MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFICKERS ADVERTISED ONLINE, PLACES THAT MOST OF US DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO, LIKE BACKPAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, IN RESPONSE TO THESE KIND OF TRAFFICKING INCIDENTS, WHERE SEX TRAFFICKERS USED HOTELS AND WE SEE THAT THAT WAS 56% AT HOTELS, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THE INDUSTRY, THE HOTEL INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE CREATED SOMETHING CALLED THE CODE, DR. DEL CARMEN TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, THIS CODE HAS INSTITUTED ALL OF THE SAFEGUARDS TO PREVENT SAFE, SEX TRAFFICKING WITHIN HOTELS. I SAY SEX TRAFFICKING BUT IT ALSO CAN INCLUDE LABOR TRAFFICKING. THEY TRAIN THE STAFF TO LOOK FOR CLUES LIKE BRANDING, UNUSUAL BRUISES, NO LUGGAGE, LONG HANGING DO NOT DISTURB SIGN, MULTIPLE GUEST COMING AND GOING, AND OBVIOUS SIGNS THAT MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE VISITED A ROOM. WHEN THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE NOTICED, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPORT, THE HOTEL STAFF ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT IT TO THE POLICE OR TO THEIR SUPERVISORS. THEY'VE ALSO SUGGESTED POSTING SIGNS IN THE BATHROOM AND IN THE ROOMS WITH QR CODES. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE LED TO A DROP IN USAGE OF HOTELS BY TRAFFICKERS, AND AN INCREASE IN USE OF STRS. ONE OF THE BASIS FOR USING STRS IS THE PRIVACY. IT'S ALSO THE RELATIVE IN EXPENSE . HAVING AN ENTIRE PLACE FOR $500 RATHER THAN HAVING TO RENT FOUR HOTEL ROOMS FOR $200 APIECE IS CHEAPER. NORTH CAROLINA WAS ONE OF THE FIRST STATES TO ADOPT A STATEWIDE LAW THAT MANDATED TRAINING FOR HOTEL STAFF AND VACATION RENTAL MANAGERS. IF AN IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS, TRAINING, SIGNAGE, RULES THAT MUST BE PROVIDED WITHIN THE BOOK THAT'S PROVIDED WHEN YOU GET INTO AN AIRBNB. AND A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MONITORING AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED FOR THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER UPON LOOKING AT HOW YOUR LICENSING REQUIREMENTS. THE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT DR. DEL CARMEN MENTIONED, THE SECURITY FEATURES, THE CHECKING OF EACH PERSON COMING IN AND VERIFYING, VERIFYING THE IDENTITY, AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE AREN'T COMING AND GOING AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, WHICH ARE SIGNS THAT TYPICALLY THERE MAY BE SOME SORT OF TRAFFICKING. GOING ON. AND OF COURSE, HE MENTIONED THAT DALLAS, IT WAS A PLANAR ARREST BY DALLAS AND PLANO WERE 23 PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED IN ONE SHORT TERM RENTAL WHERE THERE WAS TRAFFICKING GOING ON. THEY HAD MOVED BETWEEN FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE DALLAS PLANO AREA. BUT, IT WAS NEIGHBORS CALLING IN, REPORTING THAT HELPED. THERE'S STUDIES IN CHICAGO, OKLAHOMA, CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE COME OUT THAT HAVE DEMONSTRATED HOW CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE HELPED POLICE TRACK AND MONITOR THESE THINGS. SO, YOU HAD YOUR 1000 FOOT BUFFER, SO, IT LIMITS HOUSING AVAILABILITY, PEOPLE, SEX OFFENDERS HAVE STARTED TO STAY IN MORE MOTELS, TRANSIENT POPULATION, DIFFICULT TO FIND HOUSING ON OCCASION, CHICAGO DID A STUDY AFTER A CHILD WAS INJURED, WHERE THE SIX MONTH STUDY, THEY FOUND 667 SEX OFFENDERS WERE LIVING AT 490 HOTELS WITHIN 10 STATE AREA, MUCH SMALLER WOULD BE PART OF TEXAS. ANYWAY, BECAUSE HOTELS ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO MONITOR CHECK THE STATUS OF SEX OFFENDERS. SO, AS A RESULT OF THESE STUDIES AND THERE IS A WORLD OF CONCERNED CITIZENS IN HIS OKLAHOMA EXPERIENCE, SOMEONE WAS GOING TO STAY AT THIS HOTEL, THEY WERE PLANNING THEIR WEDDING, LOOKING TO RESERVE LOTS OF ROOMS FOR THEIR GUESTS, AND THEY DID A MEGAN'S LAW SEARCH, AND THEY FOUND THAT THERE WAS 50 TO 60, ACTUALLY 12 AT THIS LOCATION, AT THIS INDIVIDUAL HOTEL, THEY HAD 12 SEX OFFENDERS REGISTERED AT THAT HOTEL. THEY NOTIFY THE OWNERS AND THE OWNERS STARTED KICKING THE SEX OFFENDERS OUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND STAY AT THEIR HOTEL WHO WOULD WANT TO STAY AT A TRAVEL LODGE IF YOU KNEW YOU HAD 12 SEX OFFENDERS THERE. SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A HOUSING ISSUE THAT'S NOT THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION THIS EVENING, BUT IT IS A HOUSING ISSUE FOR SEX OFFENDERS, WHERE DO THEY GO? ONE OF THE PLACES YOU CAN GO IS IF YOU STAY LESS THAN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD IS TO START STAYING IN STRS. THEY'RE CHEAPER, YOU CAN

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AGGREGATE, AND ACCORDING TO A 2020 REPORT FOUND THAT 55% OF TRAVELERS CHOSE STRS BECAUSE OF COST EFFECTIVENESS AND AT 41% IN ANOTHER ARTICLE I READ SAY THEY WOULD PREFER TO STAY IN STRS OVER HOTELS. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE USING STRS ACROSS THE BOARD. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT 41% OF THE PEOPLE ARE SEX OFFENDERS OR SEX TRAFFICKERS, BUT I'M SAYING THAT A REPRESENTATIVE PORTION OF EACH OF THE OTHER USES IS LIKELY TO START USING STRS IN THE SAME MANNER THAT USE HOTELS AND MOTELS. ACROSS-THE-BOARD PERCENTAGES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT EQUAL. I DON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF MEMBERS BECAUSE NOBODY REPORTS ON HOW MANY SEX OFFENDERS THEY RENT TO EVERY YEAR. THAT DATA I DID HAVE. I THINK WHAT THIS DATA SHOWS YOU IS THAT USAGE OF STRS BY SEX OFFENDERS WHO CAN STAY FOR SHORTER PERIODS OF TIME, MEANING SOME CITIES HAVE ADOPTED FIVE DAY MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, TO STAY. SO THAT YOU TRY TO WEED OUT THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, THE SIGNAGE, THE CODE TYPE REGULATIONS. AND OF COURSE, THE NOTICE AND OTHER THINGS. IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS FOR ME? >> THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY. THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE ANYONE WITH ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS INFORMATIVE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS. COUNCILMEMBER

CLINE. >> THANK YOU. SEX OFFENDERS, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO REPORT THEIR WHEREABOUTS?

>> WITHIN FOUR DAYS IN CARROLLTON, AND WITHIN , I THINK IT'S SEVEN DAYS WHEN YOU PERMANENT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE REGULATIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THAT SOUNDS RIGHT, OKAY. >> IS THERE SOME STATE AGENCY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE REPORTING? HOW IS THAT?

>> CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW THAT ANSWER?

>> I DO NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER. I KNOW YOU'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT

TO THE CITY YOU RESIDE IN, . >> POLICE, MOST POLICE APARTMENTS HAS A DEPARTMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT UNIT. WE USE RESOURCES THROUGH DALLAS AND OTHER AGENCIES TO HELP STATE RESOURCES AS WELL.

>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, IF YOU'RE A CONVICTED TRAFFICKER OR SEX OFFENDER, THAT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE, YOUR CAR REGISTRATION, SO ON AND SO FORTH. IF YOU CAN BE ABLE TO TRACK THE MOVEMENTS OF THAT.

>> DRIVER'S LICENSE, YES. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? >> SO, AS FAR AS THE SEX OFFENDERS HAVING TO REGISTER, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING , WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REGULATE THAT . IT'S MORE OF A REACTIVE MEASURE THAT IF THEY EVEN SAY THAT SEX OFFENDERS, HOW WOULD WE REGULATE THAT? THEY'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN FOUR DAYS.

>> THE WAY TO REGULATE THAT IS TO HAVE THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

AND REQUIRE THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER REGULATE AND DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS. IF THEY'RE RUNNING TO THEM, IN EXCESS OF A CHILD SAFETY ZONE, THAT WOULD THEY WOULDN'T RENT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE A SEX OFFENDER. THERE'S SOMETHING, THE SAN DIEGO MODEL, THE CALIFORNIA MODEL REQUIRES EVERYONE WHO RESERVES, WHO RENTS AT AN SDR TO LIST THEIR BACKGROUND DRIVER'S LICENSE OR IF THEY'RE A MINOR, THEIR DATE OF BIRTH, SO AIRBNB AND DIFFERENT PLATFORMS PARTNER OR OFFER, ADVERTISE, WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS, DIFFERENT BACKGROUND CHECK PLATFORMS. IT'S ON THE BUSINESS OWNER TO ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T RENT TO SOMEBODY WHO WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE.

>> AS FAR AS US AND OUR CODE COMPLIANCE, IT WOULDN'T COME AS A CODE VIOLATION THAT THEY'RE RENTING TO SEX OFFENDERS.

>> THE CITY WOULD NOT LOW UNLESS SOMEBODY REPORTED.

>> WHEN YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR AND THEY SAW SOME SORT OF SUSPICIOUS OR FURIOUS BEHAVIOR, THEY WOULD CALL THE CITY AND FOLLOW UP WITH IT LIKE THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE I BELIEVE OUT OF CHICAGO. YOU'RE PUTTING THE ONUS , AGAIN, ON YOUR NEIGHBORS , IN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT AND LET THE CITY KNOW AND THEN THE CITY WOULD GO

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AND INVESTIGATE. >> IT SEEMS LIKE A REACTIVE MEASURE INSTEAD OF A PROACTIVE MEASURE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO

GET AT. >> I AGREE, AND IT'S DIFFICULT , IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MONITOR.

>> EVEN AS A BUSINESS OWNER, YOU DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK ON THE INDIVIDUAL RENTING , THAT DOESN'T MEAN , THEY'RE NOT MONITORING WHO IS , NO ONE IS AT CHECK IN TO CHECK EVERYONE IN.

>> I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE THE PLANO EXAMPLE IN 2023. WERE THERE JUST GOING OFF OF PRECEDENTS, ANY STIPULATIONS, OR REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE SCR OWNER? AN OPERATOR?

>> IN PLANO? I'M NOT SURE. THEY WEREN'T REGULATING AT THE TIME.

THEY WERE IN A PROHIBITION THE SAME WAY, SO WHEN THEY ADOPTED THEM SIX MONTHS LATER, THEY BANNED THEM.

>> OKAY. >> AND THEY CITED THIS AS ONE OF

THE REASONS WHY? >> OBVIOUSLY YES. IT WAS PART OF THEIR DECISION-MAKING. THEY WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

>> AT THAT POINT IT WAS A REACTIVE MEASURE TO BAN AND PROHIBIT ANYMORE STRS FROM OPERATING AND USING THAT AS A PRECEDENTS, NOBODY CAN COME BACK AND HAVE ANY LITIGATION BECAUSE

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE IT IN YOUR ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW THAT IF YOU GET TWO VIOLATIONS OF SOMETHING RELATED TO THE OWNER AND THE USE, THAT YOUR LODGING LICENSE WILL BE REVOKED. SO, THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING FOR ANY

ABUSES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO APPLY THIS NOT JUST TO STRS BUT

THE CITY OF CARROLLTON? >> BACKGROUND CHECKS?

>> REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS AND PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR CITY.

IT'S DISTURBING, OBVIOUSLY TO SEE THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION, BUT REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION SHARING AND HOW IS RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO STRS. AS THE COUNCIL CONTINUES DISCERNING WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? OKAY. SO, WE'LL GO TO OUR FINAL WORK SESSION ITEM, WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE REGIONAL METROX EMERGENCY RESPONSE EXERCISE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, UP TO THE PODIUM. OVER TO YOU, ELLIOTT.

>> THANK YOU, PREPAREDNESS MONTH, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ISN'T REAL, WHAT IS IT REAL? EVERY FEW YEARS THE REGION TRIES TO DO A LARGE FULL-SCALE DRILL THAT SIMULATES HOPEFULLY THIS NEVER HAPPENS, TO TEST OUR ABILITY THAT IS HAPPENING NEXT YEAR THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE NOT TYING TO THIS DRILL, HERE, BUT THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR AND HOW WE'RE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER. THE DRILL IS BEING ORGANIZED AT THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS AND THEY HAVE ASKED OLSEN GROUP TO RUN IT FOR US AND WE'LL BE HOSTING HERE IN CARROLLTON, WE'LL INTRODUCE MISS DADDY, SHE'S WITH THE OLSEN GROUP AND SHE'S GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF IT AND I'LL

ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, ELLIOTT, GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS OVERVIEW OF THE CARROLLTON SPECIFIC INFORMATION , AFTER I GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL EXERCISE. WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A 2500 PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOVERNMENT EXERCISE OVER THREE DAYS AT THE END OF OCTOBER. THAT'S GOING TO TEST OUR REGION'S RESPONSE TO A COMPLEX COORDINATED TERRORIST ATTACK. THAT MEANS SIMULTANEOUS INCIDENTS ACROSS THE METROPLEX FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, SIDE TO SIDE, HOW WOULD OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOVERNMENT RESPOND TO THAT? THE MAIN GOAL OF IT IS TO TEST OUR INTERAGENCY COORDINATION. HOW DOES THE CITY OF CARROLLTON WORK WITHOUT DISPATCH PARTNERS IN ADDISON, WHAT'S THE LAST ONE? FARMERS RANCH, YES, AS WELL AS OUR OTHER, WE'VE GOT MORE CONGLOMERATES DOWN THERE, COUNTY TO COUNTY, LOCAL TO LOCAL, FEDERAL, ALL THE WAY UP SIDE TO SIDE. WE'RE TESTING EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME. LIKE I SAID, 2500 PUBLIC SAFETY PARTICIPANTS REPRESENTING AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS, NOT HOW MANY CITIES THERE ARE, THAT CITIES,

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COUNTIES, UNIVERSITIES, THE AIRPORT IS GOING TO BE COMING WITH US, ANYBODY WHO HAS SOMEBODY WHO RESPONSE , THEY HAVE BEEN INVITED AND ENCOURAGED TO DISSIPATE IN OUR EXERCISE.

SO, HERE IN CARROLLTON WE ARE GOING TO BE AT THE KNISH CELEBRATING A FANZONE EXPERIENCE, DURING A LARGE WORLDWIDE SPORTING EVENT, THAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, THERE WILL BE SOME FAN SIDES FOR THOSE PARTICIPANTS THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET TICKETS TO AN ACTUAL SPORTING EVENT, AT THAT POINT, LOCAL CITIES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER ALTERNATE SITES AS A WATCH PARTY TYPE THING. IT'S BASICALLY SUPER BOWL HAPPENING FOR SIX WEEKS STRAIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE TESTING AN OUTDOOR ACTIVE SHOOTER SCENARIO THAT'S GOING TO BRING TOGETHER OUR S.W.A.T. TEAMS, THEIR UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS OR DRONE CAPABILITIES, AND OUR EMS PARTNERS AS WELL AS OUR HEALTHCARE PARTNERS. THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR HOSPITALS. WE'RE TESTING OPERATIONAL COORDINATION, OPERATIONAL COMMUNICATION, CRITICAL TRANSPORTATION, MASS CARE, ALL AT THE SAME TIME WITH, I BELIEVE, OVER 200 PEOPLE. YES, 200 S.W.A.T. TEAMS IN CARROLLTON. MORE THAN 20 UA S MEMBERS, THOSE ARE SMALL SQUADS ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FOUR PEOPLE. PER CITY. AND OVER 40 VOLUNTEERS. OUR VOLUNTEER NUMBERS, WE ARE GOING TO TRY SO WE CAN BE A MORE REALISTIC EXPERIENCE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT AS AN EXERCISE WE WRANGLED 400 PEOPLE, ALMOST, INTO THIS. THAT'S VERY GOOD AS FAR AS RETENTION. BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY SITES WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING 10 EXERCISE SITES ACROSS THE METROPLEX. WE ONLY GET A SMALL CUT OF IT, AND ELLIOTT AND I ARE WORKING TO PROVIDE MORE REALISM TO THE SCENARIO. BUT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THESE NUMBERS, AND APPRECIATIVE TO THE CITY OF CARROLLTON FOR HOSTING US. AND I DO WANT TO GIVE PROPS TO THE REGIONAL COORDINATION THAT THE CITY OF CARROLLTON HAS BEEN ENGAGING IN WITH US. AS A HOST SITE, THEY'VE TAKEN ON A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE THE SITE, BE IN MORE MEETINGS WITH US THAN THEY ALREADY ARE, TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN THE SITE, AS WELL AS COLLABORATE INTERNALLY WITH THE CITY PARTNERS AND REGIONALLY WITH THE OTHER CITIES AND OTHER HOST SITES AND REGIONAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE COORDINATING TO PUT ON THIS EXERCISE. I JUST SAID TO THE WORD COORDINATING FIVE TIMES IN THAT SENTENCE. WE'RE COORDINATING, GUYS. RYAN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT THE CORRECT PEOPLE ARE IN THE CORRECT AREAS AND MEETINGS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR JOB.

THEY MAJOR THE PARKS PEOPLE WERE THERE WHEN THEY WERE TOURING THE PARKS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE WELL INFORMED AND COORDINATING WITH US AND THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THE SITE. WE COULDN'T ASK FOR BETTER PARTNERS AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT PART OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING CONTRIBUTIONS CAN'T BE UNDERSTATED, NOT ONLY DOES ELLIOTT PARTICIPATE AS PART OF THE REGIONAL EMERGENCY SUPPORT TEAM MEMBER, WHICH IS BASICALLY ANYBODY HAVING A PROBLEM THEY PICK UP THE PHONE, ELLIOTT'S COMING TO HELP. ELLIOTT IS THE CAVALRY, HE'S PART OF OUR CORE PLANNING TEAM. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL SET OF MEETINGS WHERE HE GIVES SPECIFIC FEEDBACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EXERCISE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AT MCKENNA SPECIFICALLY, HERE IS THE LAYOUT, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE WAY BACK HERE. THERE'S A ROAD, THERE'S ALSO A BERM I BELIEVE AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

WE WILL BE OUT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC VIEW, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THERE WILL BE FAKE GUNSHOTS, AND A LOT OF POLICE CARS AND A LOT OF AMBULANCES, AND IT FREAKS PEOPLE OUT. BUT OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER GROUP ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING MESSAGING OUT ON THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE 200+ PEOPLE BACK HERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ACTIVE SHOOTERS POP OFF DOWN HERE WITH ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE PLAYING AS IF THEY'RE AT THE FANZONE AND OVER BY THE SOCCER FIELD WE'RE STAYING OFF THE FIELD. YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL SOCCER FIELDS WILL NOT BE TRAMPLED ON. BUT WE WILL BE OVER THERE COORDINATING OUR STAGING AREA, AND OUR VOLUNTEER COORDINATION AREA. FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A QUICK REVIEW, THIS IS WHERE THE INCIDENT WILL TAKE PLACE WHERE OUR S.W.A.T. TEAMS, DRONES, AND EMS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE THEIR TACTICS AS FAR AS RESPONDING TO AN OUTDOOR ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENT. WE WILL HAVE A VIP OBSERVER AREA IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT AND VIEW THE FESTIVITIES. WE'RE

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GOING TO HAVE ON-SITE FIRST-AID PLAYER PARKING OVER HERE, SEPARATING ALL OF THE RESPONSE VEHICLES FROM THE NORMAL PEOPLE, UP HERE AT THE PARK BENCH WE'RE GOING TO BE APPLYING, SO GIVING VOLUNTEERS VERY REALISTIC FAKE INJURIES SO THAT WHEN THEY ARE TRIAGED AND TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITALS NEARBY, THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD STORY AND IT PROVIDES REALISM FOR OUR RESPONDERS ON SITE AND FOR OUR HOSPITAL PARTNERS AS WELL. HERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE GETTING THE TRAINING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO IF THE KNISH WAS NOT ONE OF OUR HOST SITES. THIS IS WHERE THE 200 PERSON NUMBER COMES FROM. THIS IS ALL DAY FOR THREE DAYS STRAIGHT. HAVING PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE METROPLEX PARTICIPATE IN THIS EXERCISE. IF YOU NOTICE, AS THESE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORK TOGETHER NORMALLY, THAT'S TO ENCOURAGE INTERAGENCY COORDINATION. WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS WHO WORK TOGETHER ALL THE TIME, ROCKWALL, THEY ARE LIKE THIS. OUR MCKINNEY PARTNERS PROBABLY HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH BEFORE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH OF THEM SINCE THEY'RE SUCH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. AND CARROLLTON SHARE SOME COMMON INTERESTS OVER HERE. SO, THAT'S WHO ALL IS GOING TO COME THROUGH. IF YOU NOTICE THAT CARROLLTON ITSELF IS NOT ON HERE, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE AT OTHER SITES, REALLY GETTING THE OVERALL ROTATION AT SOME OF OUR OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY SITES, SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO A STADIUM ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS I BELIEVE THE VIP. YES.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING INTO ALL SORTS OF FUN STUFF AS WELL. HEARS WHAT OUR VOLUNTEERS LOOK LIKE, WE'VE GOT 25 FOLKS THAT WE'RE TRANSPORTING THE HOSPITALS, WE WANT THIS NUMBER TO BE HIGHER SO THAT OUR HOSPITAL PARTNERS CAN GET AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF MEDICAL SURGE NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S PRETTY GOOD AS FAR AS GETTING VOLUNTEERS GO, OUR SITE VOLUNTEERS ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES PROVIDING LUNCH, RUNNING REGISTRATION, GETTING WATER, HOPEFULLY NOT PUTTING OUT ANY ACTUAL FIRES BUT PUTTING OUT HYPOTHETICAL FIRES LIKE IF THE PAPER BLOWS AWAY. WE HAVE OUR HOSTAGES AND SPECTATORS WHO WILL BE ACTING AS IF THEY ARE ATTENDING THE FANZONE WHO WILL BE RUNNING AWAY FROM THE SIMULATED GUNFIRE. HERE IS OUR HEALTHCARE PARTNERS, THIS IS WHAT OUR VOLUNTEERS WILL BE TRANSPORTED TUESDAY MORNING WITH THEIR GORY, POTENTIALLY BLOODY INJURIES THAT THEY HAVE CONSENTED TO HAVE PUT ON THEM.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO TRANSPORT THESE FOLKS TO THESE HOSPITALS, LET THEM BE TRANSPORTED WITH THE REGIONAL PATIENT TRACKING SYSTEM WHICH IS ONE OF OUR OTHER MAJOR TEST ITEMS, HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK OF PEOPLE FROM AN INCIDENT SITE TO THE HOSPITAL SO THE FAMILY CAN FIND THEM, AND BACK TO THE SITE TO FEED THEM LUNCH. AND GET A T-SHIRT. I BELIEVE ELLIOTT HAD MORE AS FAR AS THE COORDINATION

ON THIS PART GOES. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, THERE'S 25 FOLKS, THE ORIGINAL TARGET IS 50, IF YOU KNOW FOLKS WOULD LOVE TO PLAY AS VOLUNTEER AS A PATIENT, IT'S TUESDAY MORNING, ONLY TUESDAY MORNING PIECE OF IT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT PROVIDES A RARE CHANCE FOR OUR EMS FOLKS, THE HOSPITALS, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS WITH TABLETOPS ALL THE TIME, UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY PUT THE PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU DON'T FIND THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AN ISSUE DURING REAL SCENARIOS. JUST LIKE GABBY SAID, THIS EVENT COMING NEXT YEAR, IT'S LIKE SEVERAL SUPERBALLS AT ONCE FOR A FEW MONTHS. WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONFIRMED, THAT COULD CHANGE, BUT EVEN WITH THE HOST HOTEL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IMPACTS FOR IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO HELP OTHER FOLKS WITH IT. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US ALL. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE TYPE OF EVENTS AND SIMULATE THEM, LIKE GABBY SAID. WE DON'T KNOW BETWEEN ALL THESE FOLKS, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY TRY, YOU DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR OUR S.W.A.T. TEAM, OUR EMS, OUR RESCUE TEAM IS GOING TO BE AT OTHER SITES, WITH THE PARTICIPATING CHIEF AT THE SIX FLAGS SITE, ALL OF OUR FOLKS, YOU DON'T SEE THEM UP HERE, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, THEY'RE GOING OTHER PLACES TO BE CHALLENGED BECAUSE THEY KNOW OUR LOCATIONS, THAT'S WHY OUR S.W.A.T. TEAM IS HEAVILY INVOLVED, EMS AS WELL, COUNTY STAFF HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH FOLKS AS WELL, THINGS LIKE THAT, FAR MORE. IT'S A BIG LIFT AND I WANT TO THANK THE OLSON GROUP, I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO ORGANIZE ONE OF THESE THINGS, 10 OF THEM AROUND THE NATION, THAT'S BIG.

I'M EXCITED, OUR PARK STAFF HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC WITH LETTING US, CAN WE USE THE SITE? MAKE SURE WE DON'T HARM ANYTHING HERE. IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ALTHOUGH PARTS WE HAVE HERE

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BEING ABLE TO HELP THE REGION, IT'S GOING TO HELP OURSELVES AS

WELL. >> I THINK THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. I CAN ANSWER THEM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT ONE OF THOSE EMAILS, ELLIE IS GOING TO PUT SOMETHING OUT HERE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME FOLKS TO PRETEND TO BE INJURED AND GET A FREE AMBULANCE RIDE.

>> I'D LIKE TO THANK THE OLSON GROUP AS WELL AS FOR THE PRESENTATION. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> DO YOU HAVE A MITIGATION PLAN IF IT RAINS THAT DAY?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE RAIN OR SHINE AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP, ALL OF OUR SITES HAVE A SAFETY SHELTER SITE.

>> WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. >> AND IT CAN GO IN THE VEHICLE, IT'LL BE FINE. WE DO HAVE THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PARTNERING WITH US TO MONITOR OUR SITES, THAT'S ANOTHER COORDINATION PIECE THAT WE WILL HAVE. THEY'RE EXCITED TO TRAIN THEIR NEWER PEOPLE ON SPECIAL REPORTING.

>> WE'RE ALSO WORKING RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO WHERE WE CAN GET AN INTERNET CAMERA THAT CAN BROADCAST THE SITE AS WELL AS , POLICE HELP US OUT WITH THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLINE? >> SOMETHING INTERESTING TO NOTE, THERE IS THE GUN RANGE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, IF YOU HEAR EXTRA GUNFIRE, DON'T BE ALARMED.

>> THAT'S NOT US. >> EXACTLY.

>> IF I WAS GOING TO HEAR GUNFIRE, IT WOULD IDEALLY BE WHEN I'M SURROUNDED BY A BUNCH OF POLICE OFFICERS. I'LL TAKE

IT. >> GOOD POINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL.

OKAY. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO INFORMATION SHARING. TO CLOSE OUT OUR MEETING. I WILL START, HERE, TO MY RIGHT, WITH

COUNCILMEMBER DR. PALACIOS. >> OTHER THAN TO SAY GREAT JOB TONIGHT, APPRECIATE YOU LEAVING THE MEETING AT OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH MAYOR BABICK AND HIS FAMILY.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CLINE.

>> I JUST WANT TO MENTION I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND A PORTION OF THE MMC CONCERT SATURDAY NIGHT AND WENT TO THE CHILDREN SUB JUDICE, AND IT WAS EXCITING AS ALWAYS, AND ALSO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE, THIS IS THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING FOR OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, SCOTT WHITAKER. AND JUST THANK HIM FOR ALL THE YEARS OF SERVICE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE'RE GOING TO MAKE HIM COME

BACK. >> I'M THINKING HE CAN RUN FOR

COUNCIL. >> ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. >> YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, LAST WEEK, THURSDAY, I ATTENDED THE GRAND OPENING OF SCOTT AND WHITE, WHICH IS HERE IN CARROLLTON CONNECTED TO THE WILD MARK WHICH IS AN IDEAL BUSINESS MODEL, YOU GET A LOT OF FOOTPRINT. A LOT OF TRACTION IN THERE. SO, I THINK I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT INITIATIVE, INTERESTING TO SEE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THEIR PILOTS, SO, THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT ALL ACROSS THE METROPLEX AREA, AND DOWN IN WACO WHERE THEY'RE FROM. IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT GOES, I THINK THERE STAFF, I THINK THEY HAVE ABOUT 15 STAFF, I THINK, THERE. FULL-TIME. SO, OFFER EVERYTHING FROM SHOTS TO PHYSICALS, AMONG OTHER THINGS.

TESTING. SIMILAR TO LAB CORE. SO, A VARIETY OF SERVICES. I THINK THE VICE PRESIDENT CAME DOWN AND THE MAYOR ATTENDED AS WELL. THEY'VE GOT A GREAT PRESENTATION, I THINK THEY SHOULD DO PRETTY WELL. THEN LATER ON, THAT AFTERNOON, I ATTENDED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ANNUAL QUEST FOR SUCCESS AWARDS, WHICH IS AT THE W HOTEL. KUDOS TO REVEREND DR. HAYNES, AS ONE OF THE AWARD WINNERS OF FRIENDSHIP BAPTIST WEST, AND THEN IT GOT PASSED AROUND CONNOR, PASS RICHIE BUTLER OF SAINT LUKE UNITED METHODIST, AND ASKED CHRIS SIMMONS, BAPTIST CHURCH, ALL OF THEM AWARD WINNERS THIS YEAR. THEY CELEBRATED THE COMMUNITY LEADERS . SO, TYPICALLY THEY DO THAT EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS. GREAT EVENT, GREAT JOB TO ALL THE AWARDS. AND THEN, I ATTENDED MMC, WHICH WAS LAST SATURDAY.

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ALWAYS A GREAT EVENT. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT KRISTA LEE IS DOING, IT'S UNITY THROUGH MUSIC, SO, I LOVE THE CONCEPT, I LOVE THE IDEA, JUST BRING THE CULTURES TOGETHER, ENJOY SONG, ENJOY MUSIC. ALWAYS A GREAT EVENT.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER WATTERS.

>> I WENT TO THE UNITED WAY EVENT , VERY EARLY MORNING. AND IT WAS VERY WELL DONE, I LEARNED SO MUCH. AND I CAN'T THE WOMEN'S CLUB EVENT, AND I ATTENDED THE CENTER WHICH WAS A TASTE OF CULTURE, ANYTHING THAT'S MULTICULTURAL, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT'S THERE. WHEN IT BRINGS TOGETHER. I WENT TO THE OTHER URGENT CARE AND CAUGHT UP. I CAUGHT UP WITH THEM. THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN A TINY SPACE. IT'S JUST AMAZING.

>> IS THIS THE SAME THING? >> I THINK SO. THEY HAD A LAB, THEY HAD X-RAY, IT WAS AMAZING. AND THEN I WENT TO, NEW YORK FOR THE NATIONAL ACE. AND THEY HAVE SO MUCH TO GIVE TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, EVEN IN CARROLLTON, SINCE 2021 THEY HAVE GIVEN OUT OVER 6.5 MILLION GRANTS. AND I KNOW THAT DURING COVID, SOME RESTAURANTS HELPED GET SOME GRANTS, AND THEY'RE STILL DOING A LOT OF THE WORK. THE NEXT ANNUAL CONFERENCE IS GOING TO BE IN TEXAS NEXT YEAR, AND OF COURSE THE MMC WHICH WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE ATTENDING THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. I JUST HAVE ONE ITEM OF NOTE. I AM A LIAISON FOR METRO CREST SERVICES AND THIS SATURDAY IS THEIR PICNIC. FROM 10:00 A.M. TO 1:00, WHICH YOU CAN GO TO BEFORE YOU HEAD OVER TO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON FOR OUR EVENTS.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMA.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. I WAS ABLE , I DIDN'T GET TO DO A LOT AS FAR AS COUNCIL, BUT I DID MAKE IT TO THE RIBBON-CUTTING FOR FEEL GREAT CAR WASH. WHICH WAS, I FELT GREAT, I WILL SAY.

IT WAS A WELL THOUGHT OUT RIBBON-CUTTING. THEY HAD FREE ICE CREAM, FROM THE ICE CREAM TRUCK, FREE CHICK-FIL-A, THEY HAD MUSIC, THEY HAD PEOPLE GIVING OUT FREE CAR WASH VOUCHERS, AND ANYBODY WHO CAME THROUGH DURING THE RIBBON-CUTTING GOT A FREE CAR WASH. THE PLACE WAS PACKED. THEY ALSO COMBINE THE RIBBON-CUTTING WITH GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. SO, IT WAS GIVING DAY THAT DAY, AND IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE THIS BUSINESS COMING AND PUTTING THEIR FOOTPRINT IN CARROLLTON, BUT ALSO GIVING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY GAVE TO OUR CITIZENS, OUR CARROLLTON POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATION, THEY ALSO GAVE TO METRO CREST SERVICES, AND TWO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPERATE IN THE AREA. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THIS COMPANY COMING IN AND GIVING BACK RIGHT OUT THE GATE.

IT WAS GREAT TO SEE. I SIGNED UP FOR THEIR MONTHLY CAR WASH SERVICE. MY HUSBAND IS FINDING OUT. SO. ASIDE FROM THAT, I ALSO, THIS WEEKEND WAS VERY NOSTALGIC FOR ME, AND MY FAMILY.

PARTICULARLY MY HUSBAND, BECAUSE WE GOT TO GO BACK TO OUR ALMA MATER HIGH SCHOOL, AND WALK THE HALLS AGAIN, AND ATTEND A PEP RALLY, AND A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME. OUR HIGH SCHOOL, SUNSET HIGH SCHOOL IN DALLAS CELEBRATED THEIR CENTENNIAL , SO THEY OPENED IN SEPTEMBER 21ST OF 1925. SO, IT WAS GREAT TO GO BACK AND JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE THE HALLWAYS, AND EVERYWHERE THAT PRODUCED LOTS OF GREAT PEOPLE, A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE CAME OUT OF SUNSET HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO, IT WAS VERY NOSTALGIC, AND IT JUST TOOK ME BACK. THAT WAS GREAT. AND THEN ON SATURDAY, I ATTENDED THE CHILDREN ADVOCACY CENTERS OF CHAMPIONS, AND I FELT VERY

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EMPOWERED AFTER THAT, JUST TO KNOW THAT THEIR PIVOTAL KEY PHRASE FOR THIS EVENT WAS FROM THE BOOK OF ISAIAH, WHERE HE'S ASKING, WHO IS GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS ? AND HE RESPONDS WITH, SEND ME. SO, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS PULLS AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS, AND WE ALWAYS WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER, AND BE CHAMPIONS FOR OUR CHILDREN. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ASIDE FROM OUR TOD COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY, WHICH IS ALSO EXCITING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEW ARTWORK COMING INTO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON. STAY TUNED.

>> WELL SAID, YES. I HAVE ATTENDED THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY GALA, IT IS A SPECTACULAR EVENT. AMAZING STORIES THAT WILL DEFINITELY DRAW YOUR ATTENTION. VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON THAT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. JUST A FEW THINGS. I ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE HELPING HANDS FUNDRAISING GALA WITH OUR FRIENDS FROM THE PHILIPPINE COMMUNITY. THEY GAVE ME THIS CERTIFICATE. BUT, VERY MUCH ENJOYED , WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES THERE, WE HAD THE MAYOR OF RICHARDSON THERE, WE HAD A FEW OTHER PEOPLE. THAT WAS WONDERFUL. I ALSO WENT TO THE WOMEN'S FORUM OF DALLAS, EVENT, THE SAME NIGHT LATER. WHERE THEY WERE RAISING MONEY FOR THE ALEXANDER IN DALLAS AND BEING ABLE TO LOOK TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT FROM OUR CITY IN CARROLLTON, SO I WAS ABLE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AT THAT. I ALSO ATTENDED OKTOBERFEST , ON SUNDAY, AND SAT THROUGH HALF THE COWBOY GAME, BEFORE I WAS READY TO GO HOME. I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT, I KNOW IT'S NOT UNTIL NEXT MONTH, BUT TML IS COMING. IT'S TIME TO BE ABLE TO START MAKING PLANS AND STUFF FOR OUR TRIP OUT TO FORT WORTH. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO CONGRATULATE SCOTT WHITAKER, WHAT AN AMAZING CAREER, HERE, WE'LL ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU LEAVE PARKS AND REC IN GOOD HANDS, BUT YOU'LL SORELY BE MISSED. I ALSO WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBER CAROLYN BE OF ANY DOSE, AND OUR OWN CHIEF JUSTICE BLANCO FOR FORGETTING THEM FROM THE DAIS, SO, SORRY FOR THAT.

I'M GLAD THAT OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM REMINDED ME OF THAT.

APPRECIATE IT. IN FACT, ON THAT NOTE, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE FROM STAFF, WHO PREPPED ME FOR THIS MEETING, TO ALL OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR HELPING ME THROUGH THIS MEETING, MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE DEFINITELY WITH OUR MAYOR, HE'S ADDRESSING SOME SERIOUS FAMILY BUSINESS AT THE MOMENT. I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION LATER. BUT, OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH HIM, AND FINALLY, I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO CONGRATULATE, ONCE AGAIN, FORMER COUNCILMEMBER MIKE AND INAUDIBLE ] ON THEIR APPOINTMENT . I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY VOTING IN ON THAT AND BEING ABLE TO GET OUR APPOINTMENTS THROUGH, AND THE NOMINEES. CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. ANYTHING FROM STAFF? OF

COURSE. >> I WANTED TO ADD THAT , THANK YOU FOR A GREAT JOB FOR RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, THAT WAS REALLY NEAT TO FILL THE ROOM WITH THE TEAM FROM CREEK VIEW, AND , JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE, THE 25TH, THIS THURSDAY, IS ALSO RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AT THE STADIUM STARTING AT 6:00 P.M. YOU'LL SEE A LONGER PRESENTATION FROM THE TEAM AS WELL AS THE MARIACHI TEAMS, AND OTHERS. WITHIN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEN, ON FRIDAY, THERE'S A SPECIAL SOUNDS ON THE SQUARE . I FORGOT WHO IT WAS, BUT, IT'S RELATED TO HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. AND THEN, DON'T FORGET ON SATURDAY, FROM 3:00 TO 9:00 IS CULTURE BEST. SO, LOOK TO CELEBRATE ALL OF THE BLENDING OF OUR CULTURES, AND ALL OF THE

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DIFFERENT VARIATIONS AND FLAVORS OF OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE. IT WOULD BE GREAT. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE THERE.

>> THANKS FOR CALLING THAT OUT. CULTURE FEST WILL BE A REALLY GOOD TIME. NOTHING FROM STAFF? APPRECIATE.

>> I'LL SAY MY EMBARRASSING SCOTT STORIES FOR HIS RETURN.

>> LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. I'M SURE MEREDITH IS GOING TO BE BUYING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.