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CELL PHONES AND OTHER DEVICES I AM CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025 A MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON . NINE MEMBERS, ALL PRESENT TONIGHT . THIS COMMISSION HAS FINAL AUTHORITY ON CERTAIN ITEMS AND ADVISORY ROLE ON OTHERS, IN THE CASE OF ADVISORY ITEMS , THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IF THE APPLICANT MAKES A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR THE CITY ORDINANCE AND THE COMMISSION CONDUCTS ITS BUSINESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POSTED AGENDA COPIES OF WHICH ARE IN THE LOBBY OUTSIDE THESE CHAMBERS . IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE OPEN MEETINGS ACT , THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
APPROVAL OF A SUBDIVISION PLAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW WITH THE PLAT MEETING ALL APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF STATE LAW AND THE CITY OF CARROLLTON ORDINANCES . A PLAT IS DEEMED APPROVED BY OPERATION OF LAW IF NO ACTION TO IMPROVE THE DENIED PLAT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TAKEN WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER A PLAT MEETING LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION TONIGHT . IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COMPLETE A CARD LOCATED AT THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE HEADING PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BEGINNING WITH THE CASE PRESENTATION , AFTER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, THE COMMISSION WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK ON THE CASE. WHEN IT IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, GET YOUR NAME AND ARREST -- YOUR NAME AND IT -- WHENEVER ONE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT BRIEF CLOSING COMMENT . AT THAT TIME, THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THAT ITEM . THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASES CONSIDERED TONIGHT ARE INTENDED TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE HEARD BY THE COMMISSION, IT IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY OR ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC . AFTER THE CASE PRESENTATION AND PUBLIC TESTIMONY TIME IS COMPLETED, THE COMMISSION WILL CONDUCT ANY DISCUSSION AND ACTION THAT IS APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, ONE THROUGH THREE . IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WITH COMMENTS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT AT THIS TIME? YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO. ARE
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THERE ANY COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS -- THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE OR MAKE A MOTION OR POLL THAT ITEM? FIRST, VICE CHAIR FOSTER .>> YES, THANK YOU . I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM ONE BEING THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 2ND , 2025 MEETING, AND AS TO ITEMS TWO, CASE NUMBER PLFP 2025-169, WE FIND THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS NECESSARY AND PROPORTIONAL TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WE FIND THE SAME AS TO CASE PLRP 2025-134, MARSH LANE NORTH SUBDIVISION, PROPORTIONAL TO THE
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>> YES, COMMISSIONER HERMON ? >> I SECOND .
>> THE MOTION WAS MADE BY FIRST VICE CHAIR FOSTER , SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HERMON . FOR THE THREE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE? LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE.
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UNANIMOUSLY. >> THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING
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AGENDA ITEM IS NUMBER 4, TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ON APPROXIMATELY 14.32 ACRE TRACT IS ON , 8148 FOR THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF EAST HEBRON PARKWAY AND MARSH LANE TO REPEAL AND REPLACE ORDINANCE 3911 , REESTABLISHING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 148 , TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING ON A PORTION OF SAID TRACT FROM (HC) HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO (MF-18) MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, TO ADD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND TO ADD CONCEPTUAL PLANS; AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY. CASE NO. PLZ 2025-133 IBP 9. CASE COORDINATOR: EMILY OFFER.>> THANK YOU. EMILY OFFER, THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF CARROLLTON, NORTH OF GEORGE BUSH, AND SOUTH OF HEBRON PARKWAY AND BETWEEN MARSH LANE AND INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY. ALONG HEBRON , YOU WILL SEE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, A LOT OF RETAIL, GAS STATIONS, AND OFFICE. ANOTHER INVOLVEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, AS PRECEDENT, WHILE SQUARE ALONG MIDWAY, THAT CASE WAS APPROVED IN 2019, PDU 148 IS PROPOSED TO BE REPEALED AND REPLACED. ONE OF THOSE TRACKS WITHIN IS TRACT 5 .
TRACTS 5, THOSE REGULATIONS WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD AS THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY . ADDITIONALLY, GOING EAST OF TRACKS -- TRACTS ONE AND TWO, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HEBRON, MAINLY RETAIL EXTENDING ALL THE WAY OUT PAST WILLOW BEND MALL. THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, INCLUDING APPROXIMATELY , JUST OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL ALONG WITH OVER 6000 SQUARE FEET OF PATIO SPACE. YOU CAN SEE , BEHIND THE RETAIL, THERE IS A POND FEATURE, INCLUDING A WATER FEATURE AS WELL. THE PROPOSAL IS GOING TO INCLUDE 396 HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS WHICH YOU WILL SEE HERE IN BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO. THERE WOULD BE TWO PARKING GARAGES , EXTERNAL TO THE BUILDINGS INDIVIDUALLY, AND APPROXIMATELY 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF COURTYARD SPACE , INCLUDING AMENITIES SUCH AS POOL, GRILL , THAT KIND OF THING. THE HIGHER DENSITY , MULTIFAMILY WOULD NOT EXCEED FOUR STORIES OR 60 FEET .
ADDITIONALLY, DOWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUILDINGS THREE AND FOUR WOULD BE LOWER DENSITY TOWNHOME STYLE MULTI FAMILY. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN . ONE THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THE BUFFER THAT IS GOING TO CREATE SOME LEVEL OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PEDESTRIANS USING THE MULTI FAMILY AND THE CHURCH AS WELL AS THE WAREHOUSE SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS A 3-D RENDERING THAT WILL GIVE YOU A
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BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE LANDSCAPING WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT WE WILL SEE AT THE END . THE APPLICANT HAS EXCEEDED LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THEY HAVE DEFINITELY MADE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY'S . HERE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE, THEY ARE PROVIDING PAVERS AT ANY PEDESTRIAN INTERSECTION, WHICH ENHANCES THE AREA VISUALLY AS WELL AS CREATES ANOTHER LEVEL OF SAFETY. HERE IS A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW OF THAT DEVELOPMENT . AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPE, THE POND FEATURE IN BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND THE RETAIL. AND, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO USES. THIS WOULD BE THE FACADE FOR THE RETAIL. ONE OF THE IMAGES, THEY ARE PROVIDED MIX MATERIALS IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE. ON THIS ONE, THIS IS THE OTHER BUILDING TO THE LEFT OF THE FIRST. YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE PROVIDING CANOPIES AND AWNINGS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND ALSO PROVIDED A DOUBLE FACADE ON THE RETAIL WHICH CREATES BETTER BRIDGE FOR VISUAL APPEARANCE FOR THE MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS.THESE PATIOS ARE ALSO COVERED AND FACING OUT TO THAT WATER FEATURE. HERE IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT WATER FEATURE , AS IF YOU WERE STANDING AT ONE OF THE PATIOS, IN THE REAR OF THE RETAIL . THIS WATER FEATURE DOES PROVIDE US AN AMENITY TO THE APARTMENTS AND RETAIL , IT CREATES AN INVITING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO USES. THE ARCHITECTURE PROPOSED, PROJECTION RECESSION ALONG THE WALL PLAYING WHICH BREAKS UP THE BUILDING'S FACADE AND CREATE SOME DEPTH. YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE ADDED SOME BALCONIES HERE . YOU CAN SEE THE VARIATION IN BUILDING MATERIALS, CONTEMPORARY REDESIGN, ONE THING YOU MAY NOTICE, THE DIFFERENCE IN ARCHITECTURE KIND OF PROVIDES ALMOST A TOWNHOME AESTHETIC, AND THE STOOPS ARE ANOTHER VISUAL AID TO BREAK UP THAT FACADE. JUST AS A REMINDER, THERE WOULD BE 396 OF THESE UNITS THAT ARE HIGH DENSITY , MULTIFAMILY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE STOPPS A LITTLE BETTER HERE . THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE LOBBY, A ENTRY ELEMENT HERE, THAT RECESSION THE STEPS AND THE CHANGE IN BUILDING MATERIAL -- UP AND DOWN THE BUILDING. THIS WOULD BE THE LOWER DENSITY TOWNHOME STYLE MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS ON THE VERY SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY . YOU CAN SEE SOME VERTICAL MODULATION , UNIFIED SCALED DETAILING . THERE WOULD BE TEN OF THESE UNITS IN TOTAL.
I MENTIONED THE LANDSCAPING EARLIER, YOU CAN SEE THE LANDSCAPING VARIES IN HEIGHT, PROVIDING A WALL OF LANDSCAPING, BUT THERE IS SOME DEPTH BECAUSE OF THE TALLER LANDSCAPING SUCH AS TREES IN THE BACK AND SHRUBS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STEP DOWN IN HEIGHT . STAFF DID RECEIVE A TIA AND IT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH STIPULATIONS . ANY QUESTIONS OR
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COMMENTS? >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO? THANK YOU, MS. OFFER. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM , YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO AT THIS ITEM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> GOOD -- GOOD EVENING, 1722 ROUTH STREET, WITH BILLINGSLEY COMPANY, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE THINKING BEHIND THIS PROJECT MULTI FAMILY AND RETAIL, BUT MUCH MORE THAN THAT, A FULLY INTEGRATED PLAN, BUT A MASTER PLAN THAT IS WORKING TOGETHER AND WE CREATED THE POND AS AN AMENITY, WE COULD HAVE SOME DETENTION, WE DECIDED TO HOLD WATER PERMANENTLY AND MAKE IT A FEATURE SO THAT IT WOULD BE ON AMENITY FOR BOTH THE RETAIL AND THE MULTI FAMILY . SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS, WE RECENTLY COMPLETED THE RETAIL AT THE CORNER OF PARK AND INTERNATIONAL ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, NEW RETAIL BUILDINGS, THOSE ARE ONE-SIDED , I MEAN FACING THE STREET, THIS RETAIL IS TWO-SIDED AND RESPONDING TO THE STREET ON ONE SIDE AND ON THE BACKSIDE, PATIOS THAT RELATE TO THE MULTI FAMILY, IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF RETAIL. THE OTHER THING THIS IS DOING IS, BY DOING THIS INTEGRATED USE IN THE MASTER PLAN, HISTORICALLY, WE HAD SEPARATION OF USES THAT FORCED EVERYBODY TO GET INTO THEIR CAR TO DO EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO. HERE, BECAUSE THE STREETS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED VERY MUCH FOR WALK ABILITY, TO CREATE AN EDGE WHERE IT IS A PLEASANT WALK, WE WILL HAVE AMENITIES THAT THE MULTI FAMILY CAN WALK TO WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INTO THE CAR, WHICH IS GIVING THE RESIDENTS OPTIONS TO WALK AND NOT HAVE TO USE A CAR FOR EVERYTHING. ALSO, OUR INTENT THAT THIS WOULD ALL BE BUILT TOGETHER AS ONE PROJECT . WE WOULD NOT BUILD THE RETAIL FIRST AND IN THE MULTI FAMILY , OR VICE VERSA, WE FEEL IF WE WERE NOT TO BUILD IT TOGETHER, IT WOULD BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH INTERNALLY AND IT WOULD ALL BE BUILT TOGETHER. YOU HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT WE GIVE A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THE ARTICULATION OF THE FACADES AND MATERIALS , AND IT IS A VERY RICH PRODUCT THAT ENHANCES THE STREETSCAPE, AND YOU SAW THE ELEVATIONS EARLIER, AND WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. THIS PROJECT IS VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE COME TO YOU AND SOUGHT APPROVAL , MOST RECENTLY, AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT MORGAN HILL, AT IP AND 190. WE READ CONCERNS, LETTERS THAT WERE SENT IN, ALMOST ALL OF THEM WERE RELATED TO TRAFFIC . AND THE CONCERN ABOUT MULTI FAMILY BRINGING TRAFFIC . THE CURRENT ZONING THAT WE HAVE WOULD ALLOW TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS TO BE BUILT HERE. IF WE WERE TO SAY , THEORETICALLY, BUILD TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS WITH A -- INDISCERNIBLE ] 50,000 SQUARE FEET, FOUR STORIES, WHICH WE HAVE BUILT THROUGHOUT INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK , THE PARKING REQUIRED FOR THOSE 400,000 SQUARE FEET AT THREE PER THOUSAND, WHICH IS CODE , WOULD BE 1200 PARKING SPACES , THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC FROM OFFICE IS MUCH WORSE THAN MULTI FAMILY, IN OFFICE, ALL CONCENTRATED AT TWO PEAK HOURS AND IT HITS -- IT IMPACTS THE CITY TRAFFIC MUCH MORE HEAVILY THAN MULTIFAMILY .
IN MULTI FAMILY, A TOTAL OF 406 UNITS, 10 TOWNHOMES AND 396 APARTMENTS . THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 609, WE ARE PROVIDING 695 PARKING SPACES , WE ARE CUTTING THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE SITE BY HALF BASED ON THE USE WE COULD USE . I WANTED YOU TO BE WHERE THAT MULTI FAMILY REDUCES THE PARKING LOAD ON THE STREETS SIGNIFICANTLY . WHEN COMPARED TO OFFICE USE. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS . WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IN
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CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC OR UTILITIES ON THE SITE, AND OUR ARCHITECT IS ALSO HERE , WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWERANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DOYLE ?
>> THANK YOU, SIR . THE QUESTION ON THE COMMERCIAL COME IF YOU WERE USING BOTH THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WHERE
IS THE TRUCK ACCESS ? >> WE TEND TO DO IT FROM THE SIDE BUT WE HAVE BUILT A LOT OF THIS, DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH CYPRESS WATERS, CITY OF DALLAS, ALL THE RETAIL WE BUILT IS ALSO TWO SIDED AND WE FEEL THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT ENHANCES IT SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT WHAT WE ARE THINKING, THE LOADING WILL BE PRIMARILY BETWEEN -- REMIND ME -- LOADING IS ON THE
IN. >> OKAY, I PRESUME SOMEONE TO GET FROM THE LOADING DOCK TO ANY OF THE INTERIOR FACILITIES.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU, SIR. I DO HAVE 12 COMMON CARDS TONIGHT, ALL ARE AGAINST , FIVE OF WHICH ARE HERE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK . I WANT TO INVITE THOSE FORWARD FIRST. THE FIRST CARD I HAVE, THE PERSON WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
IS JOE BAILEY. >> GOOD EVENING, JOE BAILEY 2208 HIGH POINT DRIVE IN CARROLLTON . I WANT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROPOSED ZONING FOR THE REASON HE FLAGGED, TRAFFIC, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIRD'S-EYE VIEW THAT IS UP ON THE SCREEN, A GRAND TOTAL OF 15 CARS ON MARSH . I KNOW IT IS DEMONSTRATIVE BUT NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF MARSH AS MATERIALS POINT OUT, YOU HAVE PRESTONWOOD ON ONE SIDE , A CHURCH ON THE OTHER SIDE, PRESTONWOOD IS A CHURCH AND A PRIVATE SCHOOL WHERE THERE IS INTENSE TRAFFIC MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE WEEK AND ALSO CERTAINLY ON SUNDAYS AND OVER THE WEEKEND, THE BIRD'S-EYE VIEW DOES NOT GET IT JUSTICE TO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION THAT WILL BE CREATED BY PUTTING THIS MANY MULTI FAMILY UNITS ALONG THIS STREET . THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SAFETY CONCERNS WITH KIDS, THE SCHOOL BEING NEARBY, ALREADY BUSY INTERSECTION . OF EVENTS AND THINGS GOING ON . THE RETAIL HE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS FATHER OF HEBRON , IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME -- FARTHER UP HEBRON, TRAFFIC IS A BIG DEAL AND TRAFFIC IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE PROBLEMATIC, IF THIS ZONING IS APPROVED AND FOR THAT REASON I WOULD SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
>> THE NEXT COMMENT CARD IN PERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION IS STEPHEN DEWITT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> STEPHEN DEMITT, 2213 HIGH POINT, CARROLLTON, TEXAS, INDISCERNIBLE ] TWO POINTS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT, WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH APARTMENTS ONLY. SOME TYPE OF CONDITION WOULD BE A REQUEST . I HAVE HAD THIS HAPPEN IN OTHER CITIES WHEN THEY WOULD SAY, NO CO WILL BE ISSUED FOR A BUILDING OR DWELLING UNIT ON TRACT 2 MULTI FAMILY, THE SEAL WAS ISSUED FOR THE RETAIL OR RESTAURANT ON TRACT ONE, ENSURES THAT IT IS ALL BUILT TOGETHER WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS THE PLAN. SECOND ISSUE IS THE CHANGE IN THE INCREASE OF MAXIMUM UNITS , DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, NOT SURE IF ANYBODY REACHED OUT TO HOMESTEAD, THE DEVELOPER HAS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER MIDWAY AND GEORGE BUSH LARGE DEVELOPMENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION WHICH ALLOWS FOR 750 PARKING UNITS AT THIS WILL BE 400 AND ZONE FOR THE SAME
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OF CAPACITY , MAXIMUM DWELLING UNITS, 18 UNITS PER ACRE, THIS IS ASK INCREASED TO 44 UNITS PER ACRE, TOO MUCH, I THINK , WE SHOULD FOLLOW WHAT THE STATE LAW IS UNDER>> NEXT PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, MATT. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> MATT GARRETT, ARBOR CREST , CARROLLTON, TEXAS, I AM SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION IN THE CAPACITY OF THE HOA PRESIDENT WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 101 HOMES AT THE CORNER OF MARSH RIDGE AND HEBRON, THE PREVIOUS TWO SPEAKERS WERE HOA MEMBERS. WE WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1977 AND MY PREDECESSOR , MANY YEARS BEFORE, STOOD UP AGAINST ANY MULTI FAMILY IN THE AREA , AND A LOT OF THE OLDER MAPS I HAVE AT THE HOA HAD PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA AND WERE ALL DECLINED BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ACTIVE ENOUGH TO DENY ANY KIND OF MULTI FAMILY AND A ZONING CHANGE FOR THAT . MY POINT TO THIS THING IS THE ENTIRE NAME OF THIS CASE, IBP, INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, NOT INTERNATIONAL MULTI FAMILY PARK, MR. BILLINGSLEY CAME IN WITH THE IBP PLAN THAT SOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD UPON THAT, NOW WE ARE CHANGING THAT, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH THE RETAIL , WE THINK IT IS GREAT , EVERYTHING WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARKWAY IS PRETTY POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOW, IF WE NEED ANY EXAMPLE OF MULTI FAMILY, ALL WE NEED TO DO IS GO SOUTH ON MARSH AND SEE THE APARTMENTS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 1980S. THEY HAVE ALL HAD GREAT INTENTIONS WONDERFUL WHEN THEY STARTED, NOT SO WONDERFUL ANYMORE. THAT IS, I GUESS, BE IN 20, 25 YEARS? I LIVED IN CARROLLTON FOR 40 YEARS ON HEBRON WHEN IT WAS TWO-LANE, WE NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE, THE CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNT HAS TO BE CLOSE TO 100,000 CARS PER DAY, NEVER KNEW THAT, WHAT ARE THESE APARTMENTS GOING TO BE LIKE FOR MY CHILDREN, YOUR CHILDREN IN 25 YEARS? WONDERFULLY OR WILL THEY GO ? THE HISTORY OF THESE VERBS GO FROM A DEVELOPER BUILDS THEM, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PLAN, THEY HIRE A COMPANY TO RENT THEM OUT AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY ARE RENTED REALLY GOOD AND THEY GET SOLD ON THE MARKET TO A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST AND WALL STREET IS OWNING THESE APARTMENTS. THAT WILL END UP MORE THAN LIKELY, THAT IS THE HISTORY OF MULTI FAMILY, I REPRESENT 101 HOMES IN THE AREA, A FEW PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN . THAT IS KIND OF IT. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT, AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE . >> NEXT PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION ON THIS ITEM IS JOHN SMITH. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD .
>> JOHN SMITH, 3866 KELLY BOULEVARD IN CARROLLTON, AT THE CORNER OF MARSH LANE AND KELLY , I TOOK SOME PHOTOS AND I WILL BE GLAD TO SHARE WITH YOU, WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS CURRENTLY. IT IS ABOUT 4/10 OF A MILE FROM THE CORNER OF KELLY TO ROSEMEAD, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION WILL BACK UP BEYOND KELLY MULTIPLE TIMES PER DAY. IF THESE APARTMENTS ARE BUILT, WE WILL ADD -- I DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENT, IF IT IS INDUSTRIAL, YOU HAVE TWO TIMES A DAY FOR YOUR TRAFFIC BUILDUP , BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK AND GOING HOME, THAT IS MULTI FAMILY, YOU WILL HAVE TRAFFIC, INCREASE TRAFFIC AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. WHEN YOU TRY TO TURN LEFT OFF OF KELLY ONTO MARSH LANE , YOU HAVE TO WAIT MINUTES , AT THAT POINT IN TIME , CARS BACK UP BEYOND OUR RESIDENTS, WE CANNOT GET OUT OF
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OUR DRIVEWAY, BECAUSE THERE IS SIX, EIGHT CARS WAITING TO TURN LEFT, THE OTHER PROBLEM IS, CARS ARE TRYING TO TURN LEFT ON MARSH RIDGE OFF OF MARSH , THAT BACKS UP BEYOND KELLY ALSO. AGREEING TO DO THIS 32 YEARS AND HAVE SEEN THE TRAFFIC INCREASED DRAMATICALLY DURING THAT TIME. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO LET THIS GET OUT OF HAND LIKE THIS AND CONTINUE TO BUT MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET, THERE IS NO WAY TO EXPAND IT, LANDLOCKED ON EACH SIDE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, OUR RESIDENTS AT THE 3000 BLOCK OF KELLY, EIGHT HOMES, SEVEN ARE OVER 65 YEARS OF AGE , ALL OF OUR MEDICAL ACCESS, EMERGENCY -WISE , IS OFF OF MARSH LANE . IF I HAD A HEART ATTACK TOMORROW, WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT OF ALL THAT TRAFFIC IN THE CARROLLTON-FARMERS BRANCH PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO RESPOND TO THAT, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT IN A TIMELY MANNER. THAT IS A BIGGER PERCENTAGE OF SENIORS IN THE AREA AS A WHOLE, IN THAT AREA, BUT SIGNIFICANT, A LOT OF SENIORS LIVING IN THE AREA AND WE ARE AT THE STAGE OF OUR LIFE WHERE WE REQUIRE MEDICAL CARE AND EMERGENCY CARE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES, LIVING IN A HOME 32 YEARS AND THE TRAFFIC HAS GONE TO THE POINT YOU CANNOT EVEN GET OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY. AND SEE IF YOU WOULD WANT -- YOU ARE A SENIOR AND HAVE ISSUES WHERE YOU NEED TO TRY TO GET OUT. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. IF YOU WOULD PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES BEFORE YOUAPPROVE THIS. THANK YOU. >> NEXT PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION IS JIM. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR
THE RECORD. >> JIM YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE . I DID WHAT YOU DID 10 YEARS AGO. I DID RESEARCH ON MULTI FAMILY 18 REQUIRING SUP, SPECIAL USE PERMIT, I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT, SPECIAL USE PERMIT TONIGHT, ALSO RENDERINGS ARE FANTASTIC, I AM WONDERING, WHERE IS THE GARBAGE RECEPTACLES? OH, BOY, THOSE ARE NICE, I DO NOT SEE THEM, WITH THE LOADING DOCK , ALONG THE SIDE, BUT, INDISCERNIBLE ] LOADING DOCKS ARE PRETTY, PRETTY BAD.
SECONDLY, THE BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE THREE TO SIX STORIES, I HEARD MS. OFFER SAY IT WAS LIMITED TO FOUR, IS THAT THROUGH THE SUP? IT COULD GO TO SIX BECAUSE THAT IS THE MAXIMUM .
LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE, THE HIGHLANDS, MY WIFE AND I LIVE ON AN ACRE LOT AND THE MINIMUM DENSITY IS 30 UNITS PER ACRE, THIS IS 44 I BELIEVE THEY SAID, IF I PUT 30 DWELLING UNITS ON MY PROPERTY, NOBODY CAN WORK, I THINK THE DENSITY IS OUT OF LINE , I THINK THE TRASH RECEPTACLES NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO -- THERE HAS NOT BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY, OR IT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, WE ALWAYS HAD A TRAFFIC STUDY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HIGH DENSITY BEFORE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME I THOUGHT YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER RECOMMENDING THIS . HAVE A GREAT
DAY. >> SO, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE COMMENTS FOR YOUR OPINION ON MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> HENRY BILLINGSLEY, TURTLE CREEK IN DALLAS IS MY ADDRESS. I OWN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, I HAVE OWNED IT FOR OVER 40 YEARS , WE HAVE ABOUT 600 ACRES IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA . WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, IT WAS ON THE EDGE OF DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS IN THE COUNTRY, WE PUT IT ALL THE STREETS WITH NO ASSISTANCE FROM ANYBODY . WE BUILT OVER 1.3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE QUALITY OF WHAT WE BUILD, MULTI FAMILY , AT MIDWAY AND PARK, WE FINISHED 450 UNIT STRUCTURE THEIR THAT IS MULTI FAMILY. IT IS 90% BRICK,
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS , MOST PEOPLE WHO BUILD VARMINTS BUILD THEM, SELL THEM, MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD, WE BUILT APARTMENTS , WE MANAGE THEM , AND WE KEEP THEM , YOU BUILD THINGS DIFFERENTLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP IT FOR 15 OR 20 OR 30 YEARS THEN YOU DO IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUILD IT AND SELL IT . IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT AND SELL IT, YOU DO IT AS CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE, HE GETS FULL, YOU SELL IT AND IT FIVE OR SIX YEARS DOWN THE LINE, STARTS TO DETERIORATE AND YOU HAVE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE COSTS. IF YOU DO IT RIGHT, THEY DO NOT DETERIORATE AND IT IS A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT LONG-TERM.THAT IS AS AN OWNER . AS A PERSON IN THE CITY DRIVING BY EVERY DAY LOOKING AT IT, EVERYBODY, ALL THE BROCHURES LOOK GOOD, ALL THE PHOTOS LOOK GOOD I WOULD SAY, GO LOOK AT THE THINGS WE HAVE BUILT AND KEPT AND STILL ON -- AND STILL OWN, THE QUALITY IS THERE AND THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR QUALITY .
ON THE RETAIL, WE BUILT THREE RETAIL BUILDINGS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON PARK, THE OTHER SIDE OF INTERNATIONAL A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, LOOK AT IT, IT IS EITHER GOOD OR BAD AND YOU CAN TELL QUALITY WHEN YOU SEE IT, THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE HAVE DONE RETAIL PARK. THIS WOULDALONG MORE OF THE SAME -- THE MULTI FAMILY WERE PROPOSING, IF YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF DENSITY, YOU CAN AFFORD TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE SPREADING IT OVER MORE UNITS AND THE ECONOMICS MAKE SENSE . IF IT MADE MORE SENSE TO DO TWO STORY, WE WOULD DO TWO STORY BUT WE HAVE DONE FOUR STORY, IF WE LOOK AT MIDWAY, THE PRODUCT IS FOUR STORY AND GOOD-LOOKING. AND HIGHLY LEASED AT VERY GOOD RATES. YOU HAVE TO LOOK, NOT AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING BUT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. WE ALSO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY WHICH WE WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS, WE HAVE GIVEN IT TO STAFF, STAFF LOOKED AT IT AND WERE HAPPY WITH IT. IF YOU BUILT OFFICE ON THIS PROPERTY, THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE TWICE AS BAD. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY, 14 ACRES, FIVE WAYS IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY, FIVE , PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND OUT WITHOUT CAUSING ADDITIONAL -- I MEAN, TRAFFIC IS WHAT IT IS, I GO TO WORK EVERYDAY ON CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND I THINK THEY SHOULD CLOSE IT DOWN BECAUSE IT IS SO BUSY THEY WILL NOT DO THAT SO WE HAVE TO LIVE IN THE WORLD WE ARE IN, THIS WILL NOT BE A MAJOR CAUSE OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HAPPY TO TRY TO
ANSWER THEM. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING , ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE COMMENTS, MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO AT THIS TIME. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE
RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> I APOLOGIZE , WE ARE OPENING
IT UP. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND
ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> JACK, 2417 VISTA GLENN IN CARROLLTON, I AM AGAINST IT, FROM A STANDPOINT OF TRAFFIC , JOHNNY SAID HE CANNOT GET OUT OF HIS DRIVEWAY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HEADED SOUTH ON MARSH ARE FACING SO MUCH TRAFFIC GOING DOWN MARSH THEY TURN ON KELLY, IT IS BUMPER-TO-BUMPER TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION, AS SOON AS THEY GET PAST THE SPEED BUMPS, THEY ARE DOING 60, 70 MILES PER HOUR TRYING TO GET TO ROSEMEAD SO THEY CAN GO TO MIDWAY OR JOSEY. IT IS A BIG PROBLEM, I AM SURE THE QUALITY IS EXCELLENT, YOU ARE ADDING SO MANY MORE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ALL OVER THAT AREA, JUST NORTH OF HEBRON OVER MARSH, ANOTHER HUGE COMPLEX BEING PUT IN THERE, THIS TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC .
MARSH IS NOT EXPANDABLE, HEBRON MAY BE BUT MARSH IS NOT . FROM TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING, THREE HOURS IN THE AFTERNOON, MARSH IS BUMPER-TO-BUMPER TRAFFIC . EVERYBODY IN THESE APARTMENTS, THEY ARE HAVING TWO CARS, ONE TAKING KIDS TO SCHOOL AND THE OTHER GOING TO WORK, THEY WILL BE ON THAT ROAD, YOU CANNOT STOP THAT. THAT IS PROGRESS WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT, BUT , IT GETS TO THE POINT IT IS NOT LIVABLE ANYMORE I AM ON THE BOARD IN THE HIGHLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS 496 HOMES, WE ARE BORDERED ON
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THE SIDE BY MARSH AND ON THE NORTH RIDGE, SOUTH BYSIDE BY MARSH ROSEMEAD, A HUGE SUBDIVISION AND I AM ON THE BOARD, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I HOPE YOU TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, I KNOW YOU WILL JUST THAT AS PART OF YOURJOB. THANK YOU. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS OR OPINION KNOWN MAY NOW DO SO AT THIS TIME . IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND
KNOW YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, PRISCILLA 2307 ABERDEEN DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING BEING PROPOSED. I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS, A LOT OF RISK , A LOT OF CONGESTION, A LOT OF ACCIDENTS, IF THE STRUCTURE , CRIME, POLLUTION, POOL SAFETY, A BIG THING WITH ALL THE SCHOOLS, EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THE SCHOOLS, WE HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS AND NOT KNOWING HE WILL LIVE THERE, SO MANY DIFFERENT CONCERNS, AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. QUALITY OF LIFE, EVERY TIME I GET OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY, TRY TO MAKE A LEFT ON MARSH, I AM WAITING FOR SEVERAL MINUTES, WE ARE IMPACTED, I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE RETAIL THERE, THAT IS GREAT, I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO LEAVE HERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND EXPERIENCE THAT THEY WILL BUILD AND MOVE ON SOMEWHERE ELSE . SO, UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS WANTED TO COME TONIGHT BUT COULD NOT IN FEAR OF RETALIATION I DO NOT WANT TO GO OUT AND SPEAK. CAN YOU SPEAK FOR US? I AM HERE TO SAY THAT I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND -- MY OTHER CONCERN, NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON. HIGHLANDS AND HIGH COUNTRY , I SPOKE TO SEVERAL NEIGHBORS AND EVERYBODY WAS CONCERNED , WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? USE OUR PROPOSAL, THAT PROPOSED SIGN THAT SAYS SCAN THE BARCODE , WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON MARSH, EVERYBODY IS DRIVING , YOU DO NOT HAVE TIME TO STOP AND TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT SCAN CODE. I DID, I STOPPED INTO THE PICTURE AND WENT BACK HOME AND I TALKED TO A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS.
EVERYBODY WAS CONCERNED. IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, I HEAR SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT A PROBLEM, THESE PHOTOS -- WE MADE IT ON A LOT OF PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEYS WEBSITES, PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEY WEBSITE, HE IS SAYING THAT , YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE WEBSITE AND LOOK AT IT, HEBRON PARKWAY AND MARSH LANE IS LISTED AS A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION FOR CAR ACCIDENT.
THAT IS A BIG RISK . EVERY TIME I GO THERE AT NIGHT, I AM ALWAYS IN AND OUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, I ACCIDENTS, WITH UNPREDICTABLE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, DRIVERS OFTEN IGNORE LIGHTS, MAKE HER RETURNS, LISTING A HIGH NUMBER OF SIDE-IMPACT COLLISIONS INVOLVING MULTIPLE CARS AND SOMETIMES FATALITIES. AGAIN, WE HAVE SEVERAL CHURCHES, A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON ON THE WEEKENDS. PRESTONWOOD WILL HAVE A BIG THING WITH CHRISTMAS. IT IS A LOT. ANOTHER ATTORNEY , REPORTING THAT CARROLLTON , MULTIPLE MULTIVEHICLE COLLISIONS AND THERE WAS A BAD ONE EARLIER THIS YEAR, JANUARY 8TH, THAT WAS DOWN THE ROAD OFF OF CARROLLTON AND MARSH RIDGE COMING UP TOWARDS THE LOCATION THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THAT. I AM HERE TO SAY, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE RESIDENCE , LIKE WE SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF VETERAN RESIDENTS THAT HAVE LIVED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE OVER 60. AMBULANCE , SOMETIMES A LOT OF EMERGENCIES . NOW, THESE APARTMENTS, MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT, I KNOW YOU HAD TO GET SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE, THEY ARE CHANGING IT FROM ORDINANCE 3911 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 148, I AM NOT IN THE INDUSTRY, I HAD TO TAKE SOME TIME AND FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN. DO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR TAXES ? I KNOW THERE IS A TREASURE, OUR TAXES GO TO THE TREASURY WILL THEY HAVE TO REDO THE PIPELINES? WHAT ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH ALL THE WEAR AND TEAR OF THE NEW CARS GOING IN? THE TRUCKS? THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROBLEMS. I PRAY THAT YOU HEAR MY CONCERNS AND MY CONCERNS -- CONCERNS OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS, I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT MAKE IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, MAY DO SO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD , YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS
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SHELLEY 2349 HIGHLANDS CREEK IN CARROLLTON . I AM SPEAKING IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPOSAL. I LISTENED TO WHAT WAS SAID AND READ THE PROPOSAL AHEAD OF TIME AS WELL. SOUNDS LIKE THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS TRAFFIC. I THINK WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR CITY. THEREFORE, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OVER ON OFFICE BUILDING . SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS EXISTING NOW AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEM EATING WORSE IN THE FUTURE . THERE ARE A LOT OF EFFECTIVE WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN AND SHOULD ADDRESS TRAFFIC ISSUES. IN THAT AREA .REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, RESTRICTING ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT ONE OF THOSE AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU.
>> IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ANDREA, 2221 MEADOW DRIVE IN CARROLLTON , OUR HOA PRESIDENT SPOKE AND ON AN OFFICE BUILDING ON EAST HEBRON PARKWAY BETWEEN MARSH RIDGE AND MARSH LANE , DOUBLE WHAMMY, MY CONCERN I APPRECIATE THE RETAIL , MR. BILLINGSLEY, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THAT, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 18 YEARS, I WALKED FROM MY HOUSE, TO A LOVELY RESTAURANT FOR BREAKFAST AND WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE. WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AT INTERNATIONAL AND MIDWAY, WE CAN DO THAT. HOWEVER, BUILT THE RETAIL ON HEBRON PARKWAY, WE WOULD WELCOME IT AND MAKE USE OF THOSE RETAILERS . BUT, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE 396 MULTI-UNIT, GIVE ME THE 10 TOWNHOME FOCUSED IN THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE HAVE 60 OF THEM INSTEAD OF FOUR STORY BUILDING WITH 400 RESIDENTS AND 600, 800 CARS , WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE. FROM THIS VIEW, LOOKING BETWEEN THE TWO RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE THERE IS A DRIVEWAY WHERE WE COULD LOAD FROM THAT , THE OTHER SIDE, THAT EXIT ONTO HEBRON PARKWAY IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. TRAFFIC BACKS UP AT THE RACETRACK , TURNING RIGHT ON INTERNATIONAL DRIVE EVERY MORNING, TRYING TO GET TO THE TOLLWAY , IT IS BACKED UP HALFWAY DOWN, YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO CUT ACROSS TO THE LEFT ON HEBRON, IF IT IS BLOCKED, THEY WILL GO RIGHT AND DO A U-TURN. THIS SCREAMS TRAFFIC ACCIDENT TO ME. ON ANY GIVEN DAY, YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN MARSH LANE IN HEBRON, INTERNATIONAL AND HEBRON, I DROVE BY TWO ACCIDENTS IN THE EVENING LAST WEEK. IT IS A HIGH PROBLEM AREA IN MY MIND, I DO NOT THINK ADDING THAT MANY MORE CARS IS A GOOD CHOICE. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HIGH DENSITY
DEVELOPMENT PART. THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT MAY COME FORWARD AND DO PLEASE, STATE YOUR NAME ANDSO AT THIS TIME. ADDRESS -- 2121 MIDWAY ROAD, CARROLLTON, TEXAS, I AM A CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT , ONE THING I WANTED TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION MARSH LANE , AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR DRIVEWAYS DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE MEDIAN OPENING ON MARSH LANE , IT IS MORE TO ENCOURAGE CARS TO ACCESS THE MEDIAN OPENING AT INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY AND THE DRIVE BEHIND THE RACETRACK, THE FOCUS IS ON THE NORTH-SOUTH ROAD OF BRINGING PEOPLE IN OFF OF HEBRON PARKWAY INTO THE SITE AND USING THE MAIN CORRIDOR, WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE WILL BE, WHILE THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA THAT IS A CONCERN, I LIVED IN ALLEN, TEXAS AND WORK IN CARROLLTON, I TAKE MIDWAY EVERY DAY, A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON IT . BUT, THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ZONING THAT EXIST TODAY AND WHAT CAN BE BUILT IS NOT NECESSARILY -- THE EXISTING PROBLEMS THAT EXIST IN THE AREA ARE TRAFFIC IMPACT, I AM NOT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY ENGINEER, HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER DO THE TIA AND PROVIDED TO THE CITY, RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF HEBRON THAT WAS REQUESTED, FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT , THE
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PROJECT IS GOING TO FUNCTION AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE. I JUST WANT TO STATE , THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE TRAFFIC AND WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON PEOPLE NOT HEADING SOUTH FROM THE PROJECT ON MIDWAY. OR, ON MARSH LANE, DIFFICULT TO GET TO MARSH LANE FROM THE APARTMENTS. THANK YOU.>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD , YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. NO? THAT APPLICANT, GIVE
ANY CLOSING REMARKS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS AND REPEAT, JUST TO BE CLEAR, A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS REVIEWED WITH STAFF, THAT HAS BEEN DONE. REGARDING THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL, THE PRODUCT THAT WE BUILD IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT, 100% GRANITE , COURSE IN THE KITCHENS, BATHROOMS, EVERYWHERE ELSE, $2.15 PER SQUARE FOOT, YOU WOULD BE PAYING ABOUT $20,000 PER YEAR, MOST PEOPLE ESTIMATE THAT 20% OF YOUR INCOME SHOULD GO TOWARDS RENT THEREFORE YOU'RE TALKING MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE IN THE $100,000 RANGE, MORE OR LESS. IT TENDS TO BE A YOUNG, PROFESSIONAL THE RENTS AND MOST OF OUR PROPERTIES AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT THERE WAS AN INCREDIBLY LOW IMPACT ON SCHOOLS, TWO PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA, SLOAN STREET AND WILDER COME AT THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS IS NEGATIVE. REGARDING DENSITY, IN THE 1980S AND 1990S AND EARLY 2000 BUT THE THINKING WAS, LET'S DO 24 UNITS PER ACRE MAXIMUM. NOW CAN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE GET FOR 24 UNITS PER ACRE, AND WHAT WE GET FOR 40 UNITS PER ACRE, THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIES IN THE METROPLEX THAT NOW, FOR MULTI FAMILY, FOR A SPECIAL PROJECT, HAVE A MINIMUM OF 40 UNITS PER ACRE .
AS MR. BILLINGSLEY SAID, IT IS THE SLIGHT INCREASE IN DENSITY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT THAN GOING TO A LOWER DENSITY THREE-STORY TYPE PRODUCT.
SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP THE GARBAGE RECEPTACLES . THEY ARE ALL SHOWN ON THE SITE PLANS, THEY ARE ALL SCREENED, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN VETTED WITH STAFF, THEY ARE THERE AND HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THOROUGHLY. THOSE WERE RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP. ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HAPPY TO
ANSWER. >> COMMISSIONER FOSTER ? VICE
CHAIR FOSTER, SORRY . >> A COUPLE QUESTIONS THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. THE TRAFFIC STUDY ISSUE THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. LOOKING AT THE PLANS , ARE THERE TWO EXITS ON TO INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY ?
>> YOU CAN SEE, ONE ON THE NORTH, ON THE STREET THAT ENDS UP ON THE POND, OTHER, YOU SEE THE GARAGE, YOU CAN ACCESS IT FROM INTERNATIONAL , WE HOPE PUTTING THE EXIT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHERE THE CURSOR IS, MOST OF THE TRAFFIC WOULD GO TO INTERNATIONAL . I WANT TO POINT OUT, INTERNATIONAL HAS VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND THERE.
THE THINKING WAS, WE WOULD BE ENCOURAGING TRAFFIC TO GO
TOWARDS INTERNATIONAL . >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?
>> ANY COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS OR MAKE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 THIS TIME? YES, FIRST VICE CHAIR
FOSTER? >> I MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE CASE NUMBER PLZ 2025-133 IBP 9.
>> THANK YOU . >> COMMISSIONER PENDLETON?
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>> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
>> DID YOU ME TO APPROVE WITH STIPULATIONS OR WITHOUT
STIPULATIONS? >> WITH STIPULATIONS , THANK YOU FOR THE CATCH. COMMISSIONER PENDLETON . I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION . THE MOTION WAS MADE BY FIRST VICE CHAIR FOSTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENDLETON. TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER PLZ 2025-133IBP9 WITH STIPULATIONS, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE MOVED TO A VOTE? LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. THE MOTION PASSES WITH SEVEN VOTING FOR AND VICE CHAIR KRAMER VOTING AGAINST, COMMISSIONER DOYLE VOTING AGAINST . THIS CASE WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 2ND, 2025. THANK YOU.
THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AN "AMUSEMENT ARCADE, EXCLUDING ADULT ARCADE, LOCATED AT 4070 SH 121, SUITE 312, AND ZONED, PD197, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY. CASE NO.
PLSUP 2025-157, CLAW ARCADE. CASE COORDINATOR, SHAD RHOTEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION , WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SO, JUST TO ORIENT YOU , THIS IS THE PROPERTY DELINEATED IN WHITE AND THE CROSS STREETS , THIS WILL BE 121 AND HEBRON, JUST SOUTH OF THAT INTERSECTION. THE SUP, A MULTITENANT RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL , THIS IS SPECIFIC TO ONE OF THE TENANT SPACES WHICH I'VE TRIED TO IDENTIFY IN BLUE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OVERALL LOCATION MAP FOR YOUR REFERENCE , SHOWING THE SPECIFIC TENANT SPACE IN THIS BUILDING , ROUGHLY RIGHT THERE. WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR, LET ME BACKTRACK, THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS PD, ENCOMPASSING MULTIPLE TRACTS. AND THIS TRACT, THE ONE IN WHITE UNDER THE PD, HAS A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF THE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PD, AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT, A REQUEST WE HAVE TONIGHT IS REQUIRED TO OPERATE THE ARCADE BUSINESS THEY HAVE. A LITTLE BACK HISTORY. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE, IT IS AN ARCADE, THESE ARCADE GAMES ARE THE CLAW MACHINES, I HAVE A PHOTO TO SHOW YOU, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 50 OF THEM , YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THIS FLOORPLAN HOW THEY ARE ORIENTED, AND THE FRONT AND REAR EGRESS TO THE SUITE, RESTROOM, COUNTER AREA, THIS REQUEST, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS 50 NAMING STATIONS WHICH ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THESE BLUE BLOCKS THROUGHOUT THE SUITE. HERE IS A REFERENCE FOR A GAMING DEVICE EXAMPLE . AS OF TONIGHT, WE DID SEND OUT PUBLIC NOTICE ON OCTOBER 23RD, YOUR REPORT NOTES WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS , THAT WAS TRUE AS OF THE WRITING OF THE REPORT AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME AFTERWARDS, ONE IN SUPPORT, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT WITH YOUR PACKET, I BELIEVE
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HEADED OUT PRIOR TO THE BRIEFING. STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION . WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH STIPULATIONS, NOTED IN YOUR REPORT, IF YOU ACT FAVORABLY, STAFF ASKS THAT YOU MENTION THOSE STIPULATIONS IN YOUR MOTION. I BELIEVE I CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION . MY APPLICANT I BELIEVE IS HERE AND HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.>> COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR MR. RHOTEN AT THIS TIME. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR
THE RECORD. >> RICHARD SMART, STATE HIGHWAY 121, WE ARE A FAMILY-FRIENDLY ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS THAT IS FOCUSED ON CLAW MACHINE ARCADES, OUR CLAW MACHINES WILL HAVE PRIZES SO OUR CUSTOMERS TO PLAYER ARCADE GAMES AND WIN SOME PRIZES. WE APPEAL TO FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN , TEENAGERS AND YOUNG ADULTS . WE ARE A MODERN TWIST ON TRADITIONAL ARCADES.
THIS IS A SAFE, CLEAN AND COMMUNITY FOCUSED ARCADE. WE CHOSE BAYTOWN PLAZA BECAUSE OF ITS STRONG RETAIL , MARKETS, RESTAURANTS, OTHER BUSINESSES. THERE IS HIGH VISIBILITY AND ACCESS FROM 121. THERE ARE COMPLEMENTARY TENANTS , FAMILY DINING , SHOPPING, AND ENTERTAINMENT. OUR HOURS OF OPERATION WILL ALIGN WITH THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE SHOPPING CENTER. OPEN 11:00 A.M. TO 9:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 11:00 A.M. TO 11:00 P.M. ON MONDAY -- SATURDAY -- WE WILL PLAN TO STEP THREE TO FIVE EMPLOYEES PER SHIFT, WE WILL HAVE SOME SECURITY ON SITE, WITH OUR STAFF WE WILL HAVE CCTV, AND COORDINATE WITH PLAZA SECURITY . FOR NOISE CONTROL, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY EXTERIOR SPEAKERS OUR MACHINES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED AT ALL. THE WALLS WILL BE INSULATED. THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY, WE WILL CREATE FIVE TO 10 NEW JOBS, TAX REVENUE, THIS WILL BE A SAFE , SUPERVISED ALTERNATIVE FOR YOUTH AND FAMILY DESTINATIONS. WE WILL HAVE GOOD TENANT SYNERGY, WE WILL BRING MORE CUSTOMERS TO THE RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER. FOR TRAFFIC AND PARKING, WE WILL HAVE STAGGERED VISITS, THERE IS SURPLUS PLAZA PARKING AVAILABLE.
AGAIN, THE NOISE CONCERNED, THIS IS INDOOR USE ONLY, NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND. SO, WE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES. WE ARE NOT A NUISANCE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. WE PROVIDE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT . ENHANCES MIXED-USE, FAMILY-FRIENDLY INDISCERNIBLE ] . IN CLOSING, IT IS A CLEAN, SAFE, FAMILY-FRIENDLY VENUE, WE WILL BRING JOBS, TAX REVENUE , CUSTOMER TRAFFIC TO CARROLLTON . WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT . THANK YOU . I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY. >> COMMISSIONER DOYLE ?
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN . I SEE IN THE DRAWING THERE IS A NEW BACKDOOR TO THE BUILDING. IS THAT PROPOSED TO BE A PUBLIC
ENTRYWAY AND EXIT? >> YES, THERE IS CURRENTLY NOT A BACK DOOR, WE WILL HAVE TO CUT OUT STONE AND BUILD A BACKDOOR .
>> IS THERE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING ?
>> THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BEHIND THEM THERE IS STREET PARKING, NEAR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE
APPLICANT? NO? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
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>> THERE WAS ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD RECEIVED IN SUPPORT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS KNOWN OR THEIR OPINION KNOWN, MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAS FINAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER 5? COMMISSIONER OVERHOLT? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 5 AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WITH
STIPULATIONS . >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OVERHOLT . COMMISSIONER HERMON ?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION .
>> A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER OVERHOLT AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HERMON, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE 2025-157 CLAW ARCADE, ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE? LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY , THIS CASE WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 2ND, 2025. THANK YOU. THE NEXT PUBLIC AGENDA ITEM IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING TO AMEND SUP413 TO ALLOW MODIFIED CONCEPTUAL PLANS ON AN APPROXIMATELY 5.426-ACRE TRACT ZONED PD-189 FOR THE OFFICE DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT 1401 EAST TRINITY MILLS ROAD; AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY. CASE NO. PLSUP 2025 -171 TRINITY MILLS OR EXPANSION. CASE COORDINATOR, MR. MICHAEL
MCCAULEY. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN , MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I AM MICHAEL MCCAULEY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1401 EAST TRINITY MILL ROAD , NORTHWEST CORNER OF COIT AND TRINITY MILLS, THE HOSPITAL IS PLANNING TO ENLARGE THEIR OPERATING ROOM BY 7500 SQUARE FEET . TO DO THIS, THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO MODIFY THEIR EXHIBITS IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. A BRIEF HISTORY ON THIS, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SUP 413 WAS ADOPTED TO ALLOW THE USE TO HOSPITAL ITSELF ON THIS SITE. AT THAT TIME, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, IT HAS GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. ADDITIONAL USE RELATED TO HEALTHCARE PROFESSION , ALSO, TO A LARGE THE SAME SITE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU. YOU KNOW WHICH WAY IS WEST. NOT SHOWING UP VERY WELL. I THOUGHT I HAD IT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT CARRYING IT OVER ON THIS EXHIBIT. WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN 2021, FOR THE SAME LOCATION, EXPAND THE OPERATING ROOM AND THEREFORE BUILDING A INDISCERNIBLE ] BY 6000 SQUARE FEET , AT THAT TIME, THEY HAVE NOT EXPANDED THE BUILDING YET. WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS COME BACK WITH HIS APPLICATION HERE AND EXPAND IT BY 7500 SQUARE FEET. THAT IS BASICALLY 25% MORE THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED OR 1500 SQUARE FEET. IT IS THE SAME LOCATION, THEY ARE JUST ADDING 1500 SQUARE FEET TO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED AND CURRENTLY APPROVED IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. THERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN, THAT IS NOT CHANGING AT ALL. HERE IS THE ELEVATION. SAME ELEVATION FOR
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THE MOST PART . AS FAR AS DESIGN AND EVERYTHING, THAT SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL SEEING IN 2021 . THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IT IS INCREASING THE LENGTH OF IT . IT WAS 112 FEET , OR CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR 112 FEET BY 54. , 112 FEET BY 54 FEET , NOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS COME GO WITH 142 FEET BY 54 FEET. THAT IS WHERE YOU GET YOUR 1500 SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL OPERATING ROOM. THE FINAL ELEVATION HERE. THE ONLY WRITTEN COMMENT STAFF HAS RECEIVED THAT HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE COMMISSION ALREADY FOR THE BRIEFING MEETING , STAFF BELIEVES THE PROPOSAL, WILL NOT HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, JUST LIKE IN 2021. IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH A COUPLE OF STIPULATIONS THAT YOU SEE OUTLINED IN YOUR REPORT. THE APPLICANT IS HERE , SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM .THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE STIPULATIONS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. I WILL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
MAY HAVE. >> FIRST, VICE CHAIR FOSTER ?
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, DID IT CHANGE ANY OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO WHERE THEY HAD TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ? AS A RESULT OF THE CHANGE FROM 6000 SQUARE FEET TO 7500 ?
>> NO ADDITIONAL PARKING IS REQUIRED . AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE TONIGHT, HAS NOT TAKEN AWAY FROM ANY OF THE PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY.
>> THANK YOU . >> YOU'RE WELCOME .
>> COMMISSIONER DOYLE? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MIKE, I SEE DISCUSSION ABOUT FIRE LANES, WILL DISINHIBIT OR
MOVE , OR AFFECT FIRE LANES? >> IT DOES NOT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCAULEY AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> LOGAN, ENGINEER OF RECORD, AS MENTIONED, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS -- ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 1500 SQUARE FEET TO OUR BUILDING EXPANSION, ONE THING TO NOTE FROM THE PREVIOUS SUP, IT HAD OR STATION TO THE NORTH, WE ARE NO LONGER BUILDING THAT AND REMOVING THAT. IF WE ARE TO GO BACK TO DO THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND REDO THE SUP PROCESS AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. ONE ADDITIONAL NOTE FOR THE PARKING, WE ARE ADDING SIX ADDITIONAL THE NORTHEAST CORNER, NOT THAT IT IS NEEDED BUT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE PROPERTY. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE OTHER THING WE WANTED TO NOTE, FOR THE OWNER, THEY ARE STARTING TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONS, THE MAIN CAMPUS IS THE CARROLLTON CAMPUS, THAT IS PART OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE . EXPANDING AND BRINGING RESOURCES TO CARROLLTON . WE HAVE THE OWNER AND ARCHITECT AS WELL. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? NO? THANK YOU. I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE WERE THREE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, TWO PREVIOUS TO THE MEETING AND ONE WE RECEIVED AT THE MEETING THE PERSON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT ARE IN SUPPORT, THE NAME IS MARSHALL REED. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING , ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE COMMENTS OR THEIR OPINIONS KNOWN MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO AT THIS TIME. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND NOTE THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> STEPHEN DONNELLY , SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF, I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF REAL ESTATE FOR ALLEGIANT HEALTH AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU INSIGHT AS TO WHY WE ARE DOING THIS PROJECT, AS LOGAN HAD STATED, WE ARE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE OUR SERVICES , WE CURRENTLY HAVE STAFF AND PHYSICIANS THAT FLEX
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AMONG FOUR FACILITIES, A SMALL SURGICAL HOSPITAL IN PLANO, TWO SURGERY CENTERS, ONE IN COMPAL AND ONE IN RICHARDSON, PEOPLE HAVING TO TRAVEL AMONG DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITH THE IDEA TO BRING EVERYTHING TO ONE LOCATION WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE EFFICIENCY , WE CAN LOWER PATIENT COSTS , IMPROVE PATIENT OUTCOMES, AND SAFETY. FOR AS , THIS IS A STRATEGIC MOVE TO PROVIDE BETTER CARE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE HERE FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND LOOKFORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A COMMENT OR THEIR OPINION KNOWN ON THIS ITEM? IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY QUICK CLOSING REMARKS, YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO AT THIS TIME. NO? DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO? ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONCERNING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER DOYLE?
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER PLSUP 2025-171, TRINITY MILLS OR EXPANSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE THIS CASE WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DOYLE. FOSTER?
>> I SECOND THAT MOTION . >> THANK YOU, THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOYLE AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR FOSTER , THE CLOSE OF PUBLICLY AND APPROVE CASE PLSUP 2025-171, TRINITY MILLS OR EXPANSION, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE? NO? LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY IN THIS CASE WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 2ND, 2025. THANK YOU. THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEM IS NUMBER 7, THAT IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, TEXAS AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 1470, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, BY AMENDING ARTICLE V. USE OF LAND AND STRUCTURES, SECTION C. USE MATRIX, BY MODIFYING THE ZONING DISTRICTS SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND BED AND BREAKFAST USES MAY OPERATE BY RIGHT OR BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND REPEALING SECTION D. INTERIM PROHIBITION ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND BED AND BREAKFAST USES, REPEAL AND RESERVE ARTICLE XXI. SPECIAL USE PERMITS, SECTION D. SPECIAL CONDITIONS, 2. SUBSECTION F.
HOTEL AND TRANSIENT LODGING; AND AMENDING DEFINITIONS RELATIVE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED AND BREAKFASTS. THIS IS CASE PLZT 2025-170 CZO TEXT AMENDMENTS ¿ STR AND B&B ZONING AMENDMENTS.
CASE COORDINATOR IS MICHEAL -- LOREN SHAPIRO.
>> LOREN SHAPIRO, FIND THE MANAGER, -- I WANT TO START WITH A TIMELINE AND BACKGROUND, TO GET PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS. BEFORE 2022, THE CITY DID NOT HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS EXCEPT FOR BED-AND-BREAKFAST WE REQUIRED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IN DECEMBER OF 2022, COUNSEL ADAPTED ADDITIONAL REGULATION IN RESPONSE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, CREATING A PROCESS AND LICENSING PROGRAM FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED-AND-BREAKFAST, IT FOLLOWED SHORTLY THEREAFTER , COUNSEL LIMITED THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THAT CAME OUT BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DEMAND THAT HAS OCCURRED ACROSS THE GLOBE, LET ALONE LOCALLY, WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED-AND-BREAKFAST , WITH SO MANY BEING THERE, THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP, THE
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CITY WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME REGULATIONS IN PLACES AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN 2022 AND 2023. SINCE THAT TIME, FROM 2023 TO 2025 , AS YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TO BRING IN SPECIAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2023, OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED-AND-BREAKFAST, THAT WENT THROUGH COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AND WE FOUND THERE WERE A LOT OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE USES. A LOT OF CONCERNS. FOR THAT REASON, THE COUNCIL CAME BACK AND ADOPTED A ONE-YEAR INTERIM PROHIBITION TO ALLOW TIME FOR US TO COLLECT DATA AND FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE MEANTIME . DURING THAT INTERIM PROHIBITION, WE STILL ALLOWED SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO COME IN AS LONG AS THEY ARE MEETING CERTAIN CRITERIA AT THE TIME. WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE INTERIM, WAS TO LOOK INTO WHAT CAN THE CITY DO BETTER TO SERVE ITS CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS. REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO GO OVER THE REGULATIONS AT THE TIME OF THE INTERIM PROHIBITION . SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IN EVERY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ZONING DISTRICTS AND OUR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DUPLEX , RETAIL, OFFICE ZONING DISTRICTS, AND IN THE URBAN FRINGE AND DOWNTOWN TRANSIT CENTER. THE SDR'S ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE HISTORIC SQUARE AND URBAN GENERAL BEING IN OUR DOWNTOWN TRANSIT CENTER, BED-AND-BREAKFAST REMAIN AS A DOUBLE ACT ALLOWED BY SUP AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED , ATTACHED AND DUPLEX ZONING DISTRICTS , AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINED WHAT STRS AND BED-AND-BREAKFAST ARE, THIS IS SUMMARIZING WHAT I JUST MENTIONED, WHERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED-AND-BREAKFAST MAY BE ALLOWED, BY SUP OR BY RIGHT IN THE CASE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS LOOKED INTO WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE INTERIM TO SORT OUT THE CONCERNS THAT WERE COMING FROM OUR RESIDENTS. AS A RESULT OF THAT, CITY COUNCIL HELD A WORK SESSION IN JULY , SEPTEMBER, TWO IN OCTOBER , ULTIMATELY, THE COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION ON THE 28TH OF OCTOBER ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED IN RESPONSE TO ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT ABOUT. WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, FROM DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, ON OCTOBER 28TH , TO REMOVE THE INTERIM PROHIBITION SECTION FROM ARTICLE 5, THAT IS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WE HAVE THE PROHIBITIONS ON STRS AND B&BS, MEETING NEW WAS OVERRATED BUT IT ALLOWS LEGAL NONCONFORMANCE CONFORMING TO CITY CODE TO CONTINUE. THE OTHER AMENDMENT WE WOULD MAKE, THE THIRD ITEM, TO ARTICLE 21, SPECIAL USE PERMITS FROM A SECTION IN THERE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PERSPECTIVE BAN AND PROHIBITION, -- FINALLY, WE NEED TO AMEND ARTICLE 34 BECAUSE THERE IS DEFINITIONS THAT REFER TO BED-AND-BREAKFAST AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OTHER TERMS, AS A RESULT , WE HAVE TO MODIFY THAT TO GO ALONG WITH CHANGES WE ARE ALSO MODIFYING IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES PROCESSES , RESTRICTION OR REGULATIONS IN PLACE, WE HAVE TO AMEND THOSE, TOO. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU WILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. REGARDING THE CHANGES WE ARE MAKING.>> COMMISSIONER DOYLE? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN .
COULD WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE YOU PLEASE?
DO? >> I ACCIDENTALLY TURNED YOU
OFF. >> HOW CAN I TAKE A PERSONAL? LAUGHTER ] THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE SECOND BULLET POINT UNDER NUMBER 2 , IF I AM READING THIS , DOES THIS SAY WE WILL ALLOW LEGAL NONCONFORMING , OR PROHIBIT THAT?
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>> WE WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW THOSE, THESE ARE EXISTING NOW , THEY HAVE THE LICENSING, THEY ARE FOLLOWING OUR STANDARDS.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE. BUT THAT MAKES THEM , BECAUSE OF THE ZONING CHANGE, CHANGES TO OUR TEXT, IT BECOMES A NONCONFORMING BUT A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE.
>> OKAY, EXCUSE MY CONFUSION WHAT IS IS LEGAL NONCONFORMING .
IF I MAY PARAPHRASE, I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE UNITS THAT WERE ALREADY OPERATING, GRANDFATHERED AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE ARE NOW COMING IN TO GET LICENSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAN WE ARE FINDING THINGS THAT WERE NOT RIGHT. IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, IF THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING , THEY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE , EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN CONFORMANCE OR DO THEY HAVE TO COME INTO CONFORMANCE?
>> THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE A LICENSE OR THERE MAY BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE FIND OUT THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING AND WE COME TO FIND OUT, WHEN THEY GET THEIR LICENSE, THEY MET THE -- THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN, THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE AND
MEET CITY REQUIREMENTS . >> WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WE SAW THAT WERE NOT LICENSED AND HAD BEEN OPERATING ? THEORETICALLY, GRANDFATHERED BUT WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PLACES WHEN YOU DID THE SEARCHES IN THE COMMERCIAL CATALOGS, THAT WE FOUND THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT.
>> AGAIN, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THOSE THAT COME IN AND TO DEMONSTRATE AND DOCUMENTED THAT THEY WERE OPERATING BEFORE THE ORIGINAL DATE OF ADOPTION OF THE REGULATIONS, THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING THAT LICENSE, THROUGH THE CITY AND FOLLOW OUR CODES, THEY MAY OPERATE . WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO, THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED THE PERSPECTIVE BAN, ANYTHING THEREAFTER, NO NEW ONES WILL BE APPLICABLE.
>> THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE OPERATING IN THE GRANDFATHER PERIOD, STILL NEED TO GET A LICENSE AND MEET OUR STANDARDS?
>> PRESUMING THEY -- TO UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> VICE CHAIR KRAMER? >> YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION, PERSPECTIVE BAN, A BAN GOING FORWARD?
>> CORRECT. >> YEAH, YOU DID, THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER OVERHOLT ? >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT I THINK IS A TYPO, PAGE 6.
>> OKAY. >> ITEM 3 AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO REPEAL AND RESERVE, IN SUBSECTION F. WAS THAT INTENDED TO BE REVISED TEXT?
>> GREAT QUESTION, POINT NUMBER 3, NUMBER 3, REMOVING THE TEXT AS IT RELATES TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED-AND-BREAKFAST, BECAUSE THERE IS A SUBSECTION EXISTING, WHILE WE WILL REMOVE THE TEXT, WANT TO RESERVE THAT FOR WHATEVER WILL COME IN LATER ON WHEN IT IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT , WE RESERVE THAT SUBSECTION, WE ARE LITERALLY SAYING RESERVE FOR THE FUTURE . THAT IS WHAT THAT
MEANS . THAT IS ALL THAT IS. >> THAT IS ALL.
>> COMMISSIONER'S , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SCHAPIRO AT
THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER DOYLE? >> THIS PERSPECTIVE GOING FORWARD, BASED ON CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS ACTIVITY?
>> RIGHT. SUBJECT TO COUNCIL, WE ARE HOPEFULLY BRINGING THAT TO THE DECEMBER 2ND COUNCIL MEETING .
>> THAT IS THE DATE THIS WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SHAPIRO. VICE CHAIR FOSTER?
>> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE NUMBER OF INDISCERNIBLE ] OPERATING IN CONFORMANCE WITH CITY CODES
RIGHT NOW? >> I WILL LET COREY ANSWER THAT.
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>> 6-0, YES, 60. >> THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SHAPIRO? NO? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR THEIR OPINION ON MAY COME FORWARD AND DO SO AT THIS TIME.
I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD . DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONCERNING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7? I WANT TO APOLOGIZE, I WILL HAVE TO BACK UP FOR A SECOND, THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE, I DID HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THAT WANTED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. ALBERTO GOMEZ.
>> GOOD EVENING, WHEN I FILLED IT, I OWN ON BED-AND-BREAKFAST .
>> YOU ARE SPEAKING IN FAVOR? SO, THE NEXT PERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM IS JAMES PHILIP HAUGE.
>> LEWISVILLE, TEXAS. I OWN AN AIRBNB IN CARROLLTON. THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN REALLY CONFUSING FOR US, TRYING TO NAVIGATE ALL THE CHANGES WITH THE CITY, I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT HAS BEEN A PRETTY ONE-SIDED DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN THIS PROCESS THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS , THEY CALLED US IN AND GOT BOTH SIDES, THEY LISTEN TO THE AIRBNB OWNERS AND LISTENED TO THE CITY FOLKS AND THEY WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCE THAT MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITIZENS ON BOTH SIDES . I FEEL LIKE, WITH THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, IT WAS A PRETTY ONE-SIDED PROCESS . I STILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON WHAT THIS CHANGE IS. WE HAVE AN AIRBNB THAT SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE BY A SCHOOL WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING FOR THREE YEARS, IS THAT APPROVED NOW? I DO NOT KNOW . CAN I GET A PERMIT, WE WERE DENIED IN THE CHAPTER 100 PROCESS BECAUSE WE WERE LOCATED WITHIN A SCHOOL WHICH IS CLOSED DOWN RIGHT NOW. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF I AM TRYING TO GET ANSWERED. YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHERE WE STAND. GRANDFATHERING IN THE EXISTING OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITHIN THE CITY IS A GREAT THING, IF YOU WANT TO BAN THEM GOING FORWARD, I GET THAT, YOU SAY NO, I WILL TAKE MY MONEY AND INVEST SOMEWHERE ELSE, THOSE WHO INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY AND WERE TOLD, BY THE WAY, TALK TO THE CITY AND WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY UNDER THOSE REGULATIONS, NOW, BEING DENIED , I THINK THAT IS UNFAIR . I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SERVICE. THAT IS ALL. >> NEXT PERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS VIN LEE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> 1804 CHAMBERLAIN DRIVE IN CARROLLTON, TEXAS . I AM IN FAVOR RENTALS. I BELIEVE HE CAME UP WITH A SUGGESTION BASED ON THE STUDY OF THE NEIGHBOR COMPLAINING ABOUT TRASH , SOMETHING LIKE THAT. EVEN THOUGH THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT, THE REALITY, IN THE U.S. NOW. THAT IS 50% OF THE U.S. POPULATION. -- THAT IS 15% OF U.S. POPULATION, ONE AND TWO FAMILY
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AIRBNB USE. EVEN THOUGH THEY COMPLAIN, THEY'RE STILL USING IT, I DO NOT THINK THAT COMPLAINT IS FAIR. WHEN MY MOM BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, THERE IS NO BAN ON AIRBNB, WE TRY TO APPLY, PROBABLY DO NOT BUY THE HOUSE IN CARROLLTON . THANK YOU.>> SINCE EVERYONE HAS COME FORWARD WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS AND NO ONE ELSE HAS COME FORWARD OR ASKED TO COME FORWARD, I AM GOING BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS DO YOU HAVE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONSIDERING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7 ? COMMISSIONER HERMON?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PLZT 2025-170 CZO TEXT AMENDMENTS ¿ STR AND B& B
ZONING AMENDMENTS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER
HERMON . COMMISSIONER OVERHOLT? >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION .
>> THANK YOU, A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HERMON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OVERHOLT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE CASE PLZT 2025-170 CZO TEXT AMENDMENTS ¿ STR AND B& B ZONING AMENDMENTS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE? IF NOT, LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE.
>> VOTE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, THIS CASE WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 2ND, 2025. THANK YOU.
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ANY STAFF REPORTS? OTHER ITEMS ? MR. SHAPIRO?>> TO SUMMARIZE THE ITEMS THAT WENT BEFORE COUNSEL THIS PAST MONTH, ON OCTOBER 14TH, THE ASPEN-ROSEMEAD SR. CENTER WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 5-2 , THE CARROLLTON COVERED PARKING WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY COUNSEL . THE CORPORATE-COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT , CHANGES WE MADE FOR CONDITIONAL USE IN THAT DISTRICT, THAT WAS APPROVED , WITH STIPULATIONS . THE OTHER , NOVEMBER 4TH, THE CLAW SUP WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY COUNCIL, PADDLE CLUB FOR OUTDOOR LIGHTING WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE COATING LOUNGE WAS APPROVED, STIPULATIONS THAT ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE UNTIL 4:00, THAT WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 6-1. THAT
IS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, MR. SHAPIRO, THANK YOU, CITY STAFF, FOR THE TRAINING AND THE SUPPORT YOU ALWAYS GIVE US. WELCOME TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT, AND A PLEASURE HAVING YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR ONE YEAR FOR ME.
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