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>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE OFFICIALLY STARTING OUR WORK SESSION, GUYS FOR THE DECEMBER 2 ND.
WE'LL GET THOSE MODIFIED AND JUST INDICATE AS
[*11. Consider Approval Of The Purchase Of A New SWAT Vehicle And Accessories From Lenco Industries, Inc. Through A US General Services Administration (GSA) Purchasing Contract In An Amount Not To Exceed $365,000.00.]
STIPULATED.>> NUMBER 11. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF A NEW S.W.A.T. VEHICLE AND ACCESSORIES FROM GLENCO INDUSTRIES THROUGH GENERAL SERVICES ADMIN SERVICES CONTRACT AND NOT TO EXCEED $365,000. FOR ONE OF OUR S.W.A.T.
VEHICLES. IT'S AN OLD ONE SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A REPLACEMENT.
>> CONSIDER AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH VARIOUS FURNITURE VENDORS THROUGH INTERLOCAL CO- OP AGREEMENTS WITH THE COLIN COUNTY PURCHASER'S FORUM AND COLIN COUNTY COLLEGE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO SPEED $120,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.
IT GOES IN LINE WITH THE UPGRADES AT CITY HALL, FAR CHEAPER THAN BUILDING A NEW ONE AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? NO? OKAY. MOVING ON TO NUMBER 13. CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH SAMSARA INC.
THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL WITH SOURCEWELLCO OP FOR VEHICLE CAMERAS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $96,660 FOR A TOTAL THREE-YEAR CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $289.982.22.
YOU'LL RECALL THIS WAS PRESENT DURING OUR BUDGET SESSION AND IT'S BEEN INCREMENTED SLIGHTLY AS SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE LOOSENED UP SOME OF THEIR CONTINGENCY FUNDS TO GET ONBOARD WITH THIS PROGRAM. SO ANY QUESTIONS? NUMBER 14, CONSIDER AUTH RISING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH CIGNA HEALTH AND LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY PURSUANT TO RFP 25- 056 FOR STOP LOSS INSURANCE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,293,855.00. YES?
>> WILL THIS BE INCREMENTAL TO THE EXISTING PPO OR HMO FOR STAFF OR IS IT SEPARATE FROM THAT?
>> GOOD QUESTION. THIS IS STOP LOSS.
SO THIS IS INCREMENTAL COVERAGE FOR DEALS LIKE THAT, BUT DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM STAFF TO
>> SAMANTHA? >> YOU MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> SAMANTHA DEAN. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER.
THIS IS AN INSURANCE PLAN FOR THE HEALTH PLAN. SO IT IS ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY PAY CIGNA FOR THE HEALTH PLAN ADMINISTRATION.
>> OKAY. SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, SOME OF IT WE DO THE SELF-INSURED AND THIS IS A STOPGAP FOR WHAT WE'RE INSURING OURSELVES, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. CORRECT. IT'S REALLY TO HELP WHEN WE HAVE HIGH COST CLAIMANTS THAT COME ON THE PLAN SO IT REALLY HELPS OFFSET ANY OF THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT THEY GO OVER THE DEDUCTIBLE. IT'S A GOOD STRATEGY TO MAINTAIN FINANCIAL SECURITY FOR THE HEALTH PLAN.
>> AND IT DOESN'T RELATE TO INJURIES WORK COMP INJURIES AND ONLY PEOPLE WITH HMOS.
>> THANKS. IT WAS MENTIONED A HIGHER NUMBER OF CATASTROPHIC CLAIMS. WHAT DRIVES THAT AND IS THAT A TREND?
>> IT'S NOT A TREND. THAT'S UNUSUAL FOR US, WE USUALLY TREND BETWEEN ONE AND THREE HIGH- COST CLAIMANTS PER YEAR. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH A SELF-INSURED HEALTH PLAN. YOU MAY HAVE A YEAR WHERE YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF CANCER PATIENTS ON THE PLAN, YOU HAVE SOME HIGH- RISK PREGNANCIES OR HIGH- RISK BIRTHS AND WE EXPERIENCED ALL OF THAT THIS YEAR, SO WE HAD SIX HIGH- COST CLAIMANTS THAT WERE ABOVE $225,000 DEDUCTIBLE.
>> THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU HAVE THE STOP LOSS.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO 15. CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGE TORE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MCLIVE COFFEE
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PURSUANT TO RFP 25- 033 FOR CASE OR BULK BEVERAGE AND FOOD SUPPLY AND VENDING MACHINE SERVICES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,000 ANNUALLY FOR A FIVE- YEAR CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 16.CONSIDER THE CITY MANAGE TORE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH LLC FOR PURSUANT FOR A TOTAL THREE-YEAR CONTRACT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $411,000 EVEN. QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. 17. CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE. THIS WAS COVERED IN THE LAST MEETING DURING WORK SESSION.
THIS IS THE ORDINANCE TO PASS THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? NUMBER 18, CONSIDER ORDINANCE ADOPTING ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION CODES.
>> YES. >> ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? OKAY. NUMBER 19, CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TITLE IX, CHAPTER CHAPTER 97 HOTEL SHORT- TERM RENTAL AND BED & BREAKFAST CODE RELATING TO LICENSING AND REGULATIONS OF HOTEL, SHORT- TERM RENTALS AND BED & BREAKFASTS AND ESTABLISHING A PENALTY. THIS IS THE POLICY, NUMBER 20 AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, AS WELL ON NUMBERNUMBER 28. ALL OF THOSE KIND OF FOLLOW THE SAME THEME, BUT THAT'S JUST THE POLICY.
>> AFTER I REVIEWED IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WERE ANY CHANGES BEYOND WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION.
>> OKAY, NUMBER 20 IS THE COMPANION ITEM THAT REPEALS THE PROHIBITION ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED PREVIOUSLY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? ALL RIGHT. AS I INDICATED, WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THE DEUS, BUT 28 IS THE COMPANION THAT EFFECTIVELY PUTS THE -- I GUESS, THE CURRENT FINAL --
WORDING ON THAT ONE. >> FINAL ZONING ORDINANCE.
>> THANK YOU. ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROGRAM.
ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO NUMBER 21, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE V, CHAPTER 56 CROSS CONNECTION CONTROL ANY PREVENTION OF THE CARROLLTON CODE OF ORDINANCES.
I THINK WE HAVE A WORK SESSION
ANY QUESTIONS? LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 22.
CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE THIRD EXTENSION TO A CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE'S INJURY LEAVE AS IT PERTAINS TO TEXAS LOCAL CODE -- GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 143.073.
THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING THE EXTENSION.
>> SO THIS IS JUST SIMPLY REFLECTING THE CODE CHANGE THAT CAME FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE? THERE'S NO --
>> NO, IT'S JUST REFLECTING THAT SOMEONE ASKED FOR PROHIBITION OF THREE MONTHS.
HAVEN'T DONE THIS. >> THE GOVERNING BODY.
>> NUMBER 23. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTH RISING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND THE DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT WITH HUITT- ZOLLARS INC. FOR THE HEBRON PARKWAY PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $88,880$88,880 A TOTAL REVISED CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,385,010. 00 EVEN. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? JUST FYI, THE COUNTY DID APPROVE TO RELEASE THE FUNDS FOR FRANK HEBE HEBRON AND WE'LL HAVE A MEETING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. NOW WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM STAFF ON A TECHNICAL LEVEL. WE'LL TAKE DES QUESTIONS ON THE
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DEUS. I'M GOING TO START WITH NUMBER 5, DISCUSS THE 2026 BOND REFERENDUM.I'LL INVITE KAREEM UP AS OUR CHAIR FOR THE CPAC COMMITTEE
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AND JOHN, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCILS. TONIGHT WE HAVE MR. KAREEM ALI, OUR CHAIR FOR CPAC HERE TO DISCUSS THE IMMENSE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS PUT INTO CRAFTING THIS PROPOSAL.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US, KAREEM.
WE APPRECIATE IT. A I LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP FOR THE CPAC COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU FOR ME TO BE HERE. I WILL GO OVER A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AS A CPAC, AND I DO WANT TO PASS ALL OF THETHE CREDIT TO THE ENTIRE TEAM OF CPAC THAT HAVE SPENT A LOT OF HOURS INTO THE PRESENTATION AND ESPECIALLY JONATHAN WHO HAS BEEN BEEN GUIDING US THROUGH. THESE ARE THE MEETINGS THAT CPAC HAS GONE THROUGH, AND THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO PREPARE FOR 2026 BOND ELECTION. WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING SOME TIME IN FEBRUARY AND THEN WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM BOTH THE CHIEFS AND CHIEF ROBERTS FROM POLICE AND FIRE AND THEY SAID WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN 2026.
FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAD A MEETING WHERE SCOTT CAME AND PRESENTED HIS PORTION FROM PARKS AND RECREATION AND FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAD AN AMAZING MEETING LEARNING ABOUT ALL OF THE STREETS FROM JONATHAN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN CPAC ALSO WENT THROUGH DELIBERATION AND PRIOR TIEGZ PRIORITIZING THE PROJECTS AND SOMETHING WE KEPT IN MIND IS HOWHOW EVERYTHING BEING REQUESTED IS HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE CITIZEN AND HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS AND WHAT CIPAC IS HEARING FROM THEIR OWN COMMITTEES.
WE WENT THROUGH EACH AND EVERY PROJECTS.
WE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A PHYSICAL BUS TOUR AND COUNCIL MEMBER NANCY WAS WITH US, AND WE WENT THROUGH MULTIPLE STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ONE WAS PRESENTED TO US.
SO WE HAD A GOOD FEELING ABOUT WHAT IS BEING
PROPOSED HERE. >> FOLLOWING THAT, WE ALSO INCLUDE ALL OF THE PRIORITIZATION MEETING AND SOME DELIBERATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT AND WHATWHAT CAN WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION.
AND AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL THAT, A FEW OTHER THINGS WE KEPTKEPT IN MIND IS HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE ENTIRE CITY OF CARROLLTON RATHER THAN FOCUSING -- THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW, AND I WILL GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGH LEVELS AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS MOMENT, AND I HAVE FULL SUPPORT OF JONATHAN AND CHIEFS IN DETAIL ABOUT EACH AND EVERY LINE- ITEM THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH.
SO THIS IS THE 2026 BOND ELECTION NUMBERS, AND THIS IS THE MAGICAL NUMBER WHICH DAN WILL BE HAPPY TO ELABORATE ON. IT IS BEING PROPOSED, AND WE CAN ISSUE $335 MILLION BOND IN THE UPCOMING CYCLE, AND SOME OF THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS, I'LL GO OVER IT.
THE MAJOR THING, AND I THINK YOU WILL ALSO OBSERVE IS THE 70/30 SPLIT. SO 70% GOING TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS FORMULA HAS BEEN WORKING.
LAST WE CHECKED, SINCE 1999 WAS THE LAST TIME THERE.
SINCE THEN, 2000 SINCE THE LAST 25 YEARS. 70 HAS WORKED, AND IT HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY IN THE PAST. ONE MORE FACT IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS IN 2022 WHEN THE ELECTIONS HAPPENED WE HAD A GOOD APPROVAL RATING FROM THE CITIZEN, AS WELL, KEEPING THE SAME 70/30 RATIO.
WE HAD INFRASTRUCTURE AT 79. 4% OF CITIZENS APPROVED IT.
71% OF THE CITIZENS APPROVED IT AND 71% APPROVED THE BONDS.
OF COURSE, IN 2022 WE HAD $136 MILLION. THIS TIME THE BOND IS HIGHER
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BECAUSE THE NEED IS HIGHER. ONE MORE THING WE ALSO KEPT IN MIND IS IN 1999 THE CITY COUNCIL HAD A PRIORITY LIST FOR THE PARKS AND WE KEPT THAT IN MIND AND THE PARKS AND BASED ON THAT, THEY ARE IN ALIGNMENT TO WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.ALL RIGHT. >> NEXT, THIS IS THE HIGHHIGH LEVEL. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ SOMETIMES AND THIS IS AS BEST WE CAN TO SHOW YOU THAT WE KEPT THE ENTIRE CITY IN MIND.
AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL STREETS YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON. IF YOUIO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IT IS SPREAD OUT IN INAN ENTIRE CITY AREA AND NEXT -- IF YOU SEE THE GREEN DOT WHICH IS IS PARKS AND RECREATION, THIS IS MORE FOCUSED ON THE CROSBY AREA AND IT IS ONE FACILITY, BUT THE ARTERIAL IS THE ENTIRE CITY WIDE AND WE WILL KEEP A GOOD BALANCE. THE IDEAL RITUAL WAS 25% OF THE QUADRANT AND WITH THE LIMITATIONLIMITATION AND NEED, THERE IS 25% EQUAL DISTRIBUTION? ALL FOUR CORNERS OF THE CITY AND WE DID WHATEVER WAS BEST WITH 20% OF DISTRIBUTION. SO, AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF NUMBER, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY FACTS HERE TO HELP THE CITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL PROBABLY NOTICE IS THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED WHICH IS 70% OF THE BOND MONEY WHICH IS $164 MILLION. IF YOU NOTICE, THE RESIDENTIAL IS MAKING A HEAVY LIFT OUT OF THE ENTIRE PIE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, ABOUT 53% IS GOING TO RESIDENTIAL.
ABOUT 28% IS GOING TO ARTERIAL AND REMAINING IS THE SMALL DISTRIBUTIONS. SO THE FOCUS IS THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOVING TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL, IT COMES INTO A BIG PICTURE, AS WELL. ANOTHER KEY HIGHLIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION AS WAS MENTIONED ABOUT FUNDING BEING AVAILABLE NOW. ABOUT 24 MILLION FROM DENTON COUNTY AND THE CONDITION IS WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR OWN MONEY, AS WELL. IT'S A MATCHING FORMULA. THE THREE DOTS HERE ON NUMBER 5, 7 AND 8, THOSE ARE $34 MILLION.
SO IT'S A VERY SWEET DEAL WITH 58% OF THETHE MONEY, AND THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO GO GET THIS PROJECT, AS WELL. AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS AS PER OUR UNDERSTANDING, WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US IS A LOT OF STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS WILL TRY TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. IT IS IDEAL TO TAKE CARE OF UTILITY, SEWER AND WATER LINES, AS WELL.
THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHOLE PURPOSE.
FOR, SHE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE $21 MILLION WHICH SHE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR LATER AT SOME POINT, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT HERE SO AT LEAST COUNCIL HAS A HOLISTIC PICTURE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
SOMETHING YOU NOTICED IN THE LAST AREA, AS WELL IS THE SEWER LINES, AS WELL, WHICH IS OLD TECHNOLOGY. IT WILL BE REPLACED AND THEY'RE ALL KEEPING EVERYTHING IN MIND.
THEY GO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT HAS TO BE SUSTAINED FOR A LONGER P- E RATHER THAN A SHORT ONE. NEXT IS THE BOND NON- INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS 30% OF THE MONEY AROUND $70 MILLION WHICH HAS BEEN DIVIDED INTO PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND LIBRARY. I WILL GO OVER HIGH LEVEL AGAIN AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO JUMP INTO MORE DETAILS, IF YOU LIKE. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE TREND THAT'SAL GAITING TOWARD NON-INFRASTRUCTURE. PUBLIC SAFETY IS GETTING
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56% OF THE PIE. FIRE STATION B WHICH IS TENTATIVELY 4 AND 7. 4 IS THE RELOCATION AND FIVE IS THE NEWER ONE. SOME OF THE DOLLARS COME FROM THE PAYROLL DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN SETTING UP AND THERE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AND NUMBER 3 ALSO WHICH IS POLICE FITNESS AND TRAINING BUILDING.THEY HAVE VERY COOL IDEAS, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICERS WHICH IS VERY MUCH IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THEIR PRIVATE SPACE RATHER THAN A PUBLIC GYM.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY AREAS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL. NUMBER 4 ITEM IS THE MUNICIPAL KURT RENOVATION., SO THERE ARE A LOT OF SAFETY HAZARDS, AND A LOT OF SAFETY, AND I WOULD SAY NORMALLY THE PUBLIC TRUST CONCERNS AND ESSENTIAL RENOVATION, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SUPPORT THE COURT SYSTEM, AS WELL.
NUMBER FIFTH ON THE ITEM IS T■HE SENIOR ENTER EXPANSION.
THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE ACTIVITIES AT SENIOR CENTERS.
THEY WOULD LIKE THAT BEING EXPANDED AND THE IDEA IS TO EXPAND MORE CLASSROOM AREA, RESTROOMS AND WHAT NOT.
>> NUMBER 8, AS HEBRON AND THING, AND IT'S IN MY DEMAND. THE FEEDBACK IS WE DIDN'T HAVE SPACE FOR THE LARGE AREAS AND KIDS ALSO BRING THEIR FAMILIES ON THEM. WE HAVE SOME PICTURES AND THE IDEA IS TO EXPAND THE ENTIRE FRONT AREA WHICH IS NOT BEING PROPERLY UTILIZED AND MAKE IT A MUCH MORE USABLE SPACE.
NUMBER 88 JOSEY BASEBALL TURF.
>> IS THAT FOOTBALL OR FOOTBALL?
>> NUMBER 9 IS THETHE CENTER EXPANSION, AS WELL.
THIS AREA HAS BEEN THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST, ASAS WELL. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND WILL, EXPAND THE ENTIRE SPACE. NUMBER 10 IS TRAIL FUNDING AND IT IS ALWAYS A POPULAR ITEM AND SOME OF THE PARK SURVEY WAS TO HAVE MORE TRAILS. THERE IT IS.
NUMBER 11 IS ELMS FORK PRESERVE. CITIZENS WANTED TO SEE MORE GREEN SPACE AND NATURAL SPACE.
THIS IS WHY IT'S BEEN PROPOSED.
TRAIL FUNDING. >> YES, PLEASE.
>> I SEE IT HAS RECURRING COSTS, STAFF REQUIREMENTS AND REAL ESTATE. ARE WOO ADDING NEW TRAILS OR
ARE WE ADDING MORE STAFF TO -- >>÷÷ I'LL DIAL IN ON THE RECURRING COSTS. ON THE STAFFING REQUIREMENT, THAT'S MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING NEW TRAILS AND THOSE TRAILS REQUIRE PERSONNEL TO KEEP THEM UP AND RUNNING. OUR PARK STAFF WENT THROUGH AND TRIED TO ESTIMATE IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE THROUGH AND, WITH OUR TRAIL PLAN WE HAD TO COME UP WITH.
>> AND YOU WANT TO ACQUIRE REAL ESTATE. THE REAL ESTATE IS AN ESTIMATE ON ONE OF THE TRAILS THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING. WE WERE NOTIFIED THIS IS A DIFFERENT TRAIL, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S SOMETIMES REAL ESTATE INVOLVED AND WE PUT THAT IN THERE AS A PLACE HOLDER AND THINGS LIKE
THAT. >> BUT IT'S ALL PART OF THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN WHICH IS ALSO FED INTO IT.
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SO THE LAST SUMMARY SLIDE BEFORE WE MOVE ON INTOINTO DEEPER DIVE. THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING FOR THIS UPCOMING BOND BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR LIMITATION, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW AND HAVE A GLIMPSE THAT JONATHAN WOULD IDEALLY LIKE A LITTLE MORE THAN A MILLION OR A BILLION DOLLARS IN ORDER TO FIX OUR STREETS.UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE SO MUCH FUNDS AND THIS IS ON THE BACKBURNER, AND IF ANYTHING, IT IS NOT ON THE PROPOSED LIST AND THEY'LL HAVE SOME OTHER STREETS TO WORK ON, AND IT WAS PROPOSED BY THE PARKS AND BASED ON THE DELIBERATION ON THE CIPAC LEVEL THIS MAY NOT BE RIGHT TIME TO
PROCEED. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM THE HIGH- LEVEL PERSPECTIVE AND JONATHAN, ANY QUESTIONS?
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN OR MAYBE DIANA CAN EXPLAIN, YOU SAID THE LIBRARY HAS TO BE BROKEN OUT
SEPARATELY. >> EACH ONE WILL BE THEIR OWN PROPOSITION. SO PUBLIC SAFETY WILL HAVE A PROPOSITION. INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE A PROPOSITION, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT MUNICIPAL COURT WITH THE LIBRARY AND PARKS WOULD BE SEPARATE.
AND RECREATION. >> I HAVE NO MEMORY RECOLLECTION FROM 2022.
>> IT'S VERY NEATLY DONE IN 2022 WHERE YOU BROKE DOWN THE ENTIRE PROPOSITION AND THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.
>> OUR BOND ATTORNEYS WILL GIVE
US -- >> THIS IS A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE I DID TRY TO PUT SOME STUFF TOGETHER
AND THEY SAID NO. >> WHILE THERE IS FLEXIBILITY WITH RESIDENTIAL, AND YOU CAN'T -- ONCE A BOND ELECTION IS HELD, IF THERE IS, LIKE, A STREET GETS FUNDED BY SOMETHINGSOMETHING ELSE, IT COMES OFF THE LIST, AND THEY'LL GO THE NEXT STREET ON THE LIST.
>> AS A LIAISON ON THE COMMITTEE I WANT TO COMPLIMENT KAREEM ON THE EXCELLENT JOB HE DID RUNNING THE MEETINGS IN A TIMELY SESSION AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO GET TO THIS POINT AND BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, NANCY, AS WELL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, AND WE APPRECIATE IT --
>> THE BUMPY VAN RIDE WAS THE WORST.
YOU SEE ROADS YOU'VE NEVER GONE
DOWN BEFORE. >> IT GIVES YOU AN APPRECIATION OF THE ROADS THAT MADE THE LIST.
>> YES. IT WAS VERY WELL LAID OUT.
>> THIS QUESTION IS FOR JONATHAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE REPORT CARD THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? OUR INSTRUCTOR REPORT CARDS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T KNOW THE FULL IMPACT OR LETTER GRADE IMPACT OR DO WE MAINTAIN? DO WE MAKE SOME PROGRESS? DO YOU HAVE A SENSE FOR WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT QUESTION
AND DO WE MAKE ANY PROGRESS? >> ON THE STREET SIDE, AS KAREEM MENTIONED, IF I WANTED TO TAKE ANYTHING AND GIVE US AN A IT WOULD BE ABOUT A BILLION THERE ARES, RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE BMINUS ANDDOWN.
IT IS IF YOU GO FROM A BREAKDOWN AND NOT QUITE TO THE C+, BUT WE'RE GAINING GROUND.
THE LANE MILES THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING WITH THAT IS ALSO -- IT'S AN INCREASE ON HOW MUCH WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS OVER THIS BOND COMPARED TO THE
>> AGAIN, ROUGH NUMBERS. YOU HAVE $360 MILLION OF PROJECTS RIGHT NOW COMING OUT OF THE DESIGN. SOME OF THAT WAS BOND DOLLARS AND PAYCO DOLLARS AND YOU PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR PAYCO DOLLARS. ALL INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME OF IT WOULD BE ON HERE, BUT WHEN YOU COMBINE ALL THOSE THINGS AGAIN, 235 IS ONE OF OUR LARGER BOND RAISES THAT WE'VE DONE, RIGHT? THE PAY THAT WE'VE DONE IS A LARGE COMPONENT OR THE WHOLE FOCUS FOR OUR RESIDENTSES IS TO BE THAT BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES, AND HAVE GOOD ROADS ON ROADS AND, THIS IS ABOUT A FIVE-PLAN WORK CYCLE, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS IN FIVE YEARS. OBVIOUSLY, ONCE IT'S APPROVED AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER -- SO MUCH FUNDING LEFT ON THE 2022 BOND SO IT WILL START
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SEEING THINGS HAPPEN IN 2027.>> OKAY. WE SHOULDN'T FORGET THE FACT THAT ON PUBLIC SAFETY WE HAVE FOUR SESSIONS, HISTORICALLY THAT HAVE TO BE REBUILT, RIGHT? HALF OF THEM ARE FUNDED AND THEN THIS IS TWO MORE.
WE HAVE ONE BRAND- NEW STATION WHICH IS STATION 9, RIGHT? WHICH IS BASED ON A POTENTIAL RELOCATION AND BALANCING THAT WITH ISA RATE SUGGESTS ALSO AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT. ANY QUESTIONS? DIDIO YOU HAVE MORE?
>> I HAD DETAILS. WE'LL DO PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST.
THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE THE FACILITY SIDE AND GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS. AS YOU'LL LIKELY RECALL AND AS YOU MENTIONED 4 AND 9, THE FIRE STATIONS WE ARE TARGETING WITH THIS BOND JUST TO REPLACE THE OUTDATED INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVES OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, SO IT'S SHIFTING THINGS AROUND AS WE GROW AND AS WE MOVE AS A COMMUNITY, FIRE NEEDS TO TRY TO BE IN CERTAIN PLACES TO MAINTAIN THE RATINGS. SO THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WHERE 4 IS CURRENTLY LOCATE SIDE NEXT TO THE TRACKS. IN THE EVENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN EMERGENCY AND THE TRAINTRAIN IS THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. IT'S SMALL, BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH DOING A MODERN STATION THERE, AND THEN IT DOESN'T PROVIDE COVERAGE TO THE FAR EAST SIDE OF CARROLLTON. THIS IS JUST KIND OF WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. ON THE INSIDE, AS MENTIONED, IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING, A LITTLE
DATED. >> AGAIN, FIVE, NOT SIX, BUT 5, 4, 3, AND I'M MISSING ONE IN THERE, THEY'RE ALL OF THIS VINTAGE, RIGHT? WHICH IS HOW OLD?
>> I COMPARE IT TO GAS STATIONS FROM THE '80S AND AN UPGRADE IS
NEEDED. >> WE KIND OF SHIFT THINGSTHINGS WITH MOVING FROM THE NORTHEAST AND FILLING IN IN THE CENTER. SO AGAIN, ALLOWS FIRE TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE, FASTER RESPONSIVE AND COVER OUR CITIZENS WELL.
SO THAT'S FIRE STATIONS. WE'RE DOING A PRETTY QUICK ONE.
SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A FITNESS AND TRAINING FACILITY. THE STATION OPENED IN 2017, THEY HAD 40 CIVILIAN STAFF.
THEY ARE NOW 182 OFFICERS AND 52 CIVILIAN STAFF. THEIR CURRENT LOCKER ROOMS ARE OVERFLOWING. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THEIR CURRENT STAFF. THEY ALSO HAVE THE BODY ARMOR VESTS. THERE ARE NOT A GOOD WAY TO AIR THOSE OUT. AFTER A DAY, AND THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE PROJECT, WE HAD TO BRING OUT GYM MATS, LAY THEM DOWN ASK PICK THEM ALL UP AND THE GYM ON SPACE IS ONLY -- THEY HAVE A FITNESS AREA, OUTDOORS, A STANDARD INDOOR GYM, CARDIO, FREE WEIGHTS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE, BUT A LITTLE BIGGER AND MORE ROOM FOR THE OFFICERS.
IT HAS ALSO DEDICATED TRAINING SPACE FOR THE DEFENSE CLASSES WHERE THEY CAN HOST CLASSES TO ALLOW SOME OF THE TRAINING PROGRAMS THEY DO TO HAVE IT IN THAT BUILDING INSTEAD OF WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN REMODELING THE LOCKER ROOMS AND IT WOULD EXPAND THE LOCKER ROOM TO FIT THE NEEDS FOR THE PERSONNEL AND CREATE A STATION WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THEIR BODY ARMOR CLEANED OR VENTED OUT SO THERE WOULD BE A STATION WHERE THEY COULD HANG IT OUT THERE INSTEAD OF SETTING IT IN FRONT OF THE LOCKERS OR MOVE IT AROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT IN THE CURRENT LOCKERSES.
THIS IS A FULL NEW BUILDING TO THE EAST OF THE CURRENT GYM. SO MUNICIPAL COURT PROJECT.
AS YOU RECALL, THERE IS A PRESENTATION THAT THE MUNICIPAL COURT HAD EARLIER DURING THE ATV PROCESS THAT HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF A LOT OF NUMBERS, BUT IT SHOWS THE IMMENSE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON IN THE MUNICIPAL COURTS.
YOU MIGHT THINK WELL, IT DOESN'T
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GET USED ENOUGH -- OR USED A LOT, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT OUR COURTS ARE GOING THROUGH EVERY YEAR HELPING OUR CITIZENS.SO -- SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROJECT. SO THE CURRENT BUILDING IS OUTDATED. IT HAS VISIBILITY CHALLENGES.
IT HAS SAFETY CHALLENGES. THERE IS A CURRENT AREA FOR THE JURORS. THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX THINGS AS THEY CAN, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO THROUGH AND DO A FULL RENOVATION, AND THEN WHEN THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILD, PD GOT THE NEW BUILDING IN 2017.
THE JAIL IS GOING THROUGH AND IT'S MOVING INTO CONSTRUCTION NOW. SO THE OTHER PIECES OF THIS OLDER BUILDING HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND THIS IS THE LAST PIECE IN THE MAINTENANCE IS NOW CREATING THE OPERATIONAL STRAIN.
SO JUST FROM A QUICK SYNOPSIS, IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY IT'S WORKING VERY WELL. THIS IS THE FRONT ENTRY, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S JUST KIND OF A NICE LITTLE -- IT'S GOT THE ROPE SEPARATING IT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO UPDATE THAT AND THEN MOVE IT FURTHER IN.
THEY PUT A MAKESHIFT DESK THAT WAY THEY CAN GET QUICKLY TO SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED INSTEAD OF COMING AROUND THE DESK. THAT DESK IS NO LONGER WORKING AND FUNCTIONING AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.
THERE ARE JUST SOME OUTDATED ROOMS. THERE IS A SAFETY HAZARD WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO -- I BELIEVE IT'S MINORS THAT NEED TO -- FOR PROTECTIVE REASONS HAVE TO WALK THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT SAFER FOR THEM SO THAT WILL BE PART OF IT AND WITHIN THE COURT, ALLOWING A BETTER, MORE SAFE ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS FOR THE JUDGES, A BETTER ACCESS FOR THE BAILIFFS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANYONE THAT'S IN THERE INSTEAD OF GOING AROUND A DESK.
SO JUST REALLY CLEANING UP THE COURTS AND MODERNIZING IT, AND ALSO DOING SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE PIECES WHERE THEY'RE UP DATH UPDATING THE OLD CEILING TILES THAT HAVE COME THROUGH CITY HALL.
LIBRARY PROJECTS. SO THE CARROLLTON PUBLIC LIBRARY, IN THE EARLY 2000S WAS CLOSE TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET AND HHJ HAS MORE ANNUAL VISITORS AND MUCH LARGER CULATION THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
IT CAN SOMETIMES GET A LITTLE CRAMPED DURING EVENTS.
>> IT'S STORY TIME, BUT IT'S VERY POPULAR AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT FOR EVENTS AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME WAYS TO SHIFT THINGS AROUND WITHOUT DOING A MASSIVE REBUILD TO ALLOW FOR MORE PEOPLE TO BID. SO IN 2022, THEY DID A SPACE STUDY. THERE ARE A LOT OF OBJECTIVES IDENTIFIED WITH IT. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE IMPORTANT PARTS WERE INCREASING PROGRAMMABLE PUBLIC SPACE. A NEW SERVICE DESK MODEL TO EXPAND THE CHILDREN'S AREA AND JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING ATTEND. SO JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS. SO THE FIRST PART IS ADDRESSING THE ENTRY AND MEETING ROOM.
THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO PROJECTS. WE WILL LIKELY COMBINE THESE INTO ONE WHENEVER WE DO IT JUST FOR SCOPE AND SCALE AND PLUS, JUST TO DO CONSTRUCTION ALL AT ONCE, BUT THE FIRST IS REMOVING THE LARGE MEETING ROOM AND BYBY A HALLWAY AND INCREASING THE USEABLE SQUARE FOOT INSTEAD OF A DEAD SPACE RIGHT NOW THAT'S JUST A HALLWAY, AND THEN UPGRADING THE OVERALL AESTHETIC, CONFERENCE ROOM, LOBBY SPACE AND REFRESHING.
AS FAR AS THE KIDS' SPACE EXPANSION GOES. THIS IS R CONFIGURING -- IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT IT CREATES IT, AND WITH ACTUAL USAGE, AND THE UPGRADED FAMILY BATHROOM AND JUST REALLY ADDRESSING FAMILIES THAT USE THE LIBRARY.
PARKS AND REC PROJECTS. SO AS KAREEM MENTIONED,
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PARKS AND REC HAVE A MASTER PLAN.WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY LIKE? HIGH ON THIS LIST, TRAIL CONNECTIONS. NATURE AREAS, PRESERVES, OPEN SPACES AND SENIOR CENTER. MORE TRAILS, EVENTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THROUGH THE BOND PROCESS, WHILE CIPAC WAS EVALUATING THEY TOOK THE MASTER PLAN INTO ACCOUNT ESPECIALLY THE SURVEYS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TRAIL FUNDING AND SYNTHETIC TURF FOR THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND THE CROSBY REC CENTER WHERE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING THE BOND AND THE NATURAL AREA WAS ON THE LIST. CIPAC DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT FOR THIS BOND, BUT I'VE GOT IT IN HERE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED TO CIPAC AS AN OPTION. ? SO TRAIL FUNDING, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THE TRAIL
MASTER PLAN. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
>> WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, DID WE CONSIDER INCLUDING THE COTTONBILL TRAIL ALONG THE SILVER LINE? WOULD THAT BE PART OF THIS?
>> NO. THAT'S COMING FROM EXTERNAL --
>> AND THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED, AS WELL. IT'S FUND BY DART, THE LAST BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER, OVER BY MCKINNISH PARK IS FUNDED NOW.
KEEP IN MIND WHILE SOME CITIES HAVE BRAND- NEW TRAILS GOING IN ALONG THE RAIL, MUCH OF OUR COTTON BELT TRAIL CONNECTS.
>> SO WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING ALONG THE MASTER PLAN TRAIL. WE DID SOME WORK, AS YOU ALL LIKELY KNOW IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WE SUBMITTED FOR FUNDING AND WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE WERE AWARDED FUNDING FOR THE TRAIL THROUGH THE TC AREA, AND NOT TO DERAIL THE PARK, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE WEB AND WE HAD MATCHING FUNDS FOR THAT.
>> ARE WE SUBMITTED TO PUTTING WHERE THEY CONNECT FROM TRAINFORD SEGMENT AND WE WERE TEXTED BY TEXTBOT, AND WE HAVE A POINT BECAUSE EVERY TWO YEARS KRU CAN SUBMIT.
SO THAT MAY BE THE NEXT ONE THAT WE DO BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN TO TRY TO TRY THINGS AND USE OUR FUNDING TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND EXTERNAL FUNDS. SENIOR CENTER EXPANSION.
SO SENIOR CENTER EXPANSION IS BECAUSE IT'S A VERY POPULAR PLACE. WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.
SO THIS WILL BE JUST BE -- SOME OF IT IS ADDING RESTROOMS AND ADDING MORE SPACE AND BUMPING OUT WHERE WE CAN JUST TO ADD A LARGER FOOTPRINT SO IT CAN BE USED FOR EVEN MORE THINGS, SO -- THE SYNTHETIC TURF FOR JOSEY RANCH FOOTBALL FIELD AND NOT SOCCER. THIS IS REPLACING THE EXISTING GRASS WITH THE TURF.
SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL FIELDS, WHENEVER WE UPGRADE THEM TO THIS THEY'RE JUST OVERALL WELL LIKED, WELL USED. THE NATURE PRESERVE IS TO REFRESH THE EXISTING BUILDING OUT THERE, AND SO AGAIN, NATURE OR OUTDOOR SPACES WERE HIGH ON THE LIST, NATURE AREAS. IT COULD BE UPGRADED AND REVITALIZED MORE SO IT WOULD BE MORE USED AND NOT ONLY WOULD IT INCLUDE ENHANCING THE ENTRY AND A LITTLE STORAGE SPACE AND MAKE AN ACCESSIBLE APPROACH AND KIND OF DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE OUTSIDE FOR EVENTS AND LEARNING CLASSES, I BELIEVE. CROSBY REC CENTER EXPANSION.
PICKLEBALL IS ALWAYS FUN AND OTHER CLASSES THAT THEY HAVE. THIS WOULD BE -- THE PLAN IS TO POTENTIALLY ADD A NEW BUILDING SPACE TO IT, AND SO IT WOULD BE JUST MASSIVELY EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE REC ALLOWING IT TO BE EVEN MORE USED AND ON THE T. C. RICE NATURAL AREA, WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED WAS PHASE 1 ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD. IT WAS SUBMITTED, NOT
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RECOMMEND BY CIPAC, BUT SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PARKS AND REC PROJECT AND IT IS NEAR TRAILS AND NOT THE WOOD TRAIL, BUT TRAILS OFF AND THROUGHOUT THE PARK.ACTIVITIES MEADOW, LITTLE POND AND NATURE PLAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S PART OF THE T. C.
RICE SUBMISSION. SO IN SUMMARY, THE NON- INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE $17.5 MILLION TOTAL. CIPAC DID ACTUALLY RANK THEM AND THIS IS THEIR PREFERRED RANKING AND PERSONANCE. WE DO HAVE MATCHES FOR THE TWOTWO FIRE STATIONS THE FITNESS AND TRAINING CENTER. THAT LATTER MATCH CAME FROM SAVINGS FROM THE JAIL. IT ENDED UP BEING LESS EXPENSIVE THAN ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, AND SO ALL THOSE HAVE RECURRING MATCHING AND THEIR RECURRING COSTS BUILT IN ON THE STAFFING SIDE ON PARKS JUST KNOWING THE ADDITIONAL STAFF THEY WOULD NEED WHEN CREATING NEW BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY BUILT THOSE IN TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY WOULD ASK FOR THOSE AND THAT'S NOT FUNDED THROUGH THE BOND AND THEY WOULD COME BACK AND SEE THAT.
ON THE STREET SIDE, $164.5 MILLION, IT'S A LOT. OUR GOAL IS TO ADDRESS IT AND WORK IT INTO OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY, THE PARKWAY IS A LARGE PORTION OF THIS.
IT IS IN PROGRESS AND DESIGN ESPECIALLY WITH THE DENTON COUNTY MATCH FUNDING THAT WE HAVE. WE'VE BEEN PURSUING THAT AND ON THE UTILITY SIDE WE WANTED TO INCLUDE WHAT OUR ESTIMATES ARE FOR WATER AND SEWER ON ALL THESE PROJECTS COMBINED, AND AGAIN, WE GET ABOUT 5 MILLION A YEAR TO THE UTILITY FUND. SO ABOUT 13 MILLION IN EXCESS OF THAT UTILITY FUND. A GENERAL BREAKDOWN OF THE BOND. SO 70% INFRASTRUCTURE, 30% FACILITIES --
>> HEY, JOHN. ON THE LAST CHART YOU HAD CLAY --
>> CLAY SANITARY AND SEWER LINES.
>> SO $24 MILLION TOTAL AND A 70/30 SPLIT.
PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL AS ALLALL OF ROADS ARE AND WE HAVE 30% WITH ABOUT 14% PUBLIC SAFETY AND 11% PARKS AND 2% --
>> I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY, AGAIN, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, BUT IN PRIOR BONDS OFTENTIMES WE FOCUS ON THE ARTERIALS AND THE COLLECTORS AND WE'RE GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE USED FUNDS ON THIS BEFORE. I THINK IT'S, OBVIOUSLY, OUR RESIDENTS WILL SEE A FRONT- DOOR IMPACT OF SOME OF THAT BASED ON THIS BOND.
>> IT WAS INTERESTING. WHEN WE -- KAREEM MENTIONED THE BREAKDOWN ACROSS THE CITY TRYING TO SPREAD EVERYTHING OUT, AND WE RAN THE NUMBERS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE COMPARED IT TO THE LANE MILES AND STREETS OF THOSE AREAS AND THEY ALMOST MATCHED.
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING HOW THAT BROKE DOWN IF IT'S GOT 26%, IT'S ALMOST 26% OF OUR TOTAL LANE MILES. SO --
>> IT MAKES SENSE. IN TERMS OF QUADRANTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? ?
YEAH. >> AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT AND THE INDUSTRIAL AND GREEN SPACES DOWN THERE.
>> YEAH. IT'S GOT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LANE MILES.
ELECTION AMOUNT FOR? >> 135, I
THINK. >> I WILL JUST POINT OUT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MORE AND ALSO THERE HAVE BEEN COST ESCALATIONS.
>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT OUT.
>> SO IN THE '22 BOND WE TOOK CARE OF FRANKFURT WITH THAT ONE?
>> BETWEENING ON OGDEN AND JOSEY.
>> IT'S A REMINDER THAT WHILE WE LIST A STREET IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT THINGS WILL CHANGE AND IN THIS CASE WE CHANGED IT BECAUSE WE HAD MATCHING DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO APPLY, SO --
>> AND THEN THIS IS JUST A LIST OF OTHER ONES.
>> SO THIS IS KIND OF NEXT ON THE LIST.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO GET ADDITIONAL PAYCO DOLLARS AND NUMBER 37 MIGHT BE THE VERY NEXT STREET TO BE DONE.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS TO POINT OUT BECAUSE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CREATED A LIST THERE WAS A STREET THAT WAS NOT ON THE LIST AND THERE WAS A DRAINAGE FAILURE THAT OCCURRED UNDER THE STREET AND ENDED
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UP CAUSING US TO ESCALATE THAT PROJECT TO WHERE IT WAS NOW ON THE BOND LIST AND IT POINTS OUT THAT SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN THAT REQUIRE US TOADDRESS THEM. >> CAN YOU PUT YOUR MAP UP REAL FAST OF THE STREETS? IT WAS WAY BACK IN THE BEGINNING. I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, ON JOSEY AND SOUTH OF US ON COLLEGECOLLEGE SPRINGS, IS BEING ADDRESSED HERE OR NO?
>> NO, IT IS NOT. THAT'S BEEN SOUTH COLLEGE SPRINGS IS NOT.
>> THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THERE, BUT COUNCIL SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THESE ARE PRI ORITS AND THIS PRIORITIES AND THE DOLLAR REMINDERS IS TO MAKE SURE, DIANA, THAT WE CAN FUND THE DOLLARS BASED ON THE LETTING OF THE FUNDS WITHOUT INCREASING OUR
IT'S TO MAINTAIN THE STABLE DEBT
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF HERE?
>> GOOD STUFF. WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL BE CALLING THIS ON FEBRUARY 2ND, FEBRUARY 2ND IS THE DATE THAT WE WILL
BE -- >> SO WE HAD THIS SCHEDULED TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN JANUARY.
AFTER THAT, WE NEED TO BE WRITING
THE PROPOSITIONS. >> ABSOLUTELY.
BEFORE THAT. >> I SAW THE FOOTBALL AT JOSERANCH AND THAT'S THE ELM FORKS NATURE PRESERVE?
>> AND THE JOSEY RANCH FIELD WAS LEFT÷÷ OVER FROM THE LAST BOND AND IT NEEDED TO BE PUT BACK.
>> WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE SHARED DRIVE SO EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO IT AND RUN YOUR QUESTIONS THROUGH ERIN AND SHANNON AND JONATHAN AND WE'LL GET YOU FEEDBACK. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION AS WE APPROVE THE FINAL BOND REFERENDUM ANYWAY, SO WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT NEXT TAKES US TO -- KAREEM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.
>> THAT TAKES US TO THE UTILITY FUND WATER AND WASTE WATER RIGHTS NUMBER 4. MELISSA EVERETT.
>> EDGE GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM DOING A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE WATER RATE CHANGES. THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IN MID-NOVEMBER. YOU GOT A PREVIEW OF THE REASONS FOR THE COST ESCALATION LAST WEEK OR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FROM TRA AND THIS IS THE RESULTS OF THOSE ESCALATING COST INCREASES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE A BACKGROUND ON THE UTILITY FUND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR CHANGES AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THE UTILITY FUND IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND JUST THAT THE FEES THAT THE RESIDENTS PAY PROVIDED BY THE FUNDS AND THAT'S THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE DEBT AND THE ITEMS THAT GO RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER.
WE DO REQUIRE A 09- DAY FUND BALANCE AND THAT IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND IT IS EVALUATED ON ITS OWN AND WE HAVE A AAA BOND RATING ON THIS SPECIFICALLY WHENEVER WE ISSUE THE BONDS RELATED TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT YOU JUST SAW COMING FROM JONATHAN'S SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE ADOPTED THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND WE EXPECTED ABOUT 8% AT THAT TIME. WE WAIT TO BRING THIS TO YOU BECAUSE MOST OF THE REVENUE COMES IN BETWEEN JULY TO SEPTEMBER BECAUSE IT'S HOT AND PEOPLE WATER THEIR LAWNS MORE. OUR FISCAL YEAR WILL END IN 2025 AND WE CAN MAKE A STRATEGIC DECISION ON HOW TO BETTER HAVE THE INCREASES, AND THAT PARTNERED WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND COMING ONBOARD WITH THE INCREASES AND THAT WHENEVER THE UPCOMING BONDS THAT WERE NEEDED IN THE UTILITY FUND WE'D BE ISSUED AND YOU WOULDN'T SEE A SHARP INCREASE. WE WOULD LET THEM ADJUST TO THE RATE INCREASE AS THEY WERE NEEDED. YOU HAVE THE RISING COSTS WITH THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AND TRA AND DW AND WHAT WE KNOW FROM THEM. WE ALSO DID BUILD IN AND PLAN OUT FOR THOSE FUTURE BOND PROJECTS THAT WERE SELECTED BY CIPAC THAT YOU JUST SAW COME THROUGH. SO WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE UTILITY FUND AND HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY, AS YOU CAN SEE, ABOUT 65% OF WHAT WE SPEND GOES TO WASTE WATER TREATMENT.
WE ARE A PASS- THROUGH ENTITY SO THOSE COSTS COME FROM TRA AND
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IT'S PASSED ALONG TO THE RESIDENTS.THIS IS THE OPERATING FUND AND THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE CAPITAL FUND AND THIS IS JUST THE OPERATING FUND.
THE CAPITAL THAT YOU SEE IS THE $5 MILLION PAY AS YOU GO THAT WE PROGRAM IN ANNUALLY. SOME OF THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE DO HAVE GOING ON INSIDE THE UTILITY GROUP IS THE AUTOMATED METER INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT CONTINUES ONGOING. WE HAD ATVS THAT INCLUDED UPDATES TO THE TRANSFER SWITCH IN THE STATION THAT'S THERE AND THEIR $5 MILLION WITH OTHER CAPITAL PROJECT PROJECT TO COINCIDE.
WITH THE 2026 INCREASES THAT WE HAVE WE'RE ABSORBING ALL OF THAT SAVINGS AND STUFF SO WE HAVE AN INCREASE THAT'S NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THAT 09- 90-DAY FUND BALANCE AND IT ACCOUNTS FOR THE TRA INCREASES AND CAPITAL FUNDING. WE ARE RECOMMENDING A 7.
5% INCREASE AND WE TRY TO KEEP IT PARALLEL TO WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE INCREASES SO TRA IS GOING UP A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT AND WE TRY TO REPRESENT THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THEN ALSO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FACTOR THAT INCREASE IN AND WE HAVE THE SHARP INCREASE IN 2027.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID WITH THE 7. 5% INCREASE AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT FLAT AND NOT AS BIG OF AN IMPACT TO OUR CITIZENS.
SO WHENEVER WE -- SORRY. THE COLOR IS DIFFERENT ON THE SCREEN. WE HAVE THE 7. 5% INCREASE WILL RESULT IN THE 74 PER MONTH INCREASE ON THE METER AND THEN A 35% INCREASE AT 2,000 GALLONS ON AN INCREASE. FOR WATER, WE'RE SEEING A BIGGER INCREASE ON VOLUME USAGE AND YOU'RE SEEING A LARGER INCREASE 35% ON WATER IRRIGATION AND WASTE WATER WAS HIGHER BECAUSE THAT INCREASES ON A MORE PERMANENT INCREASES, YOU SEE THAT GOING IN UP TO A DOLLAR.
>> SO THE 74 CENTS AND THE 34 CENTS AND THE 99 CENTS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS WILL FEEL.
>> THIS IS WHAT THEY'LL SEE ON A MONTHLY BASIS PER ANNUAL AND A $20 INCREASE OVER THE YEAR. AND THEN YOUR -- THIS IS MORE OF AN AVERAGE USER AT 6,000 GALLONS AND THEY'LL SEE A $3. 67 PER MONTH INCREASE ON THOSE AND THEN COMMERCIAL WILL BE $8.57, SO -- AGAIN, WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT WE'RE A COST- EFFECTIVE PLACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO LIVE.
EVEN WITH THIS RATE INCREASE IT KEEPS US AT NUMBER THREE AT BEING THE LOWEST PLACE TO LIVE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE
FOR YOU. >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? THIS DID GO THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
>> I WOULD JUST MAKE NOTE THAT SOME OF THOSE RATE INCREASES IN THE FUTURE ARE LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE DW AND TRA AND THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IN SO YOU GUYS CAN UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF CAPITAL EXPENSE THAT WILL INCLUDED IN THAT AND THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
>> WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR?
OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO INFORMATION SHARING. I'M GOING TO START OVER HERE
WITH NANCY. >> I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE STAFF ON THE NEW MURAL AS YOU ENTER DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMPLETE
>> YEAH. I THINK WE'LL TRY TO COORDINATE SOMETHING MORE TO COME, EITHER FOR SANTA ON THE SQUARE.
>> WE'RE HOPING FOR BETTER WEATHER ON THAT.
>> I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S A GOOD CALL OUT.
>> THAT WAS FREEZING LAST YEAR.
>> IT WAS FREEZING. IT WAS WET, BUT I THINK ALL INDICATIONS ARE IT MIGHT BE COLD, BUT I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DRY.
I HAVE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PALACIOS.
AS ALWAYS, I WANT TO GIVE AN APPRECIATION TO STAFF AND ALSO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM CHRIS AXBERG.
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FAR AS INCREASED ELECTRICAL COSTS WITH THAT. YOU'LL SEE THAT AT A FUTURE TIME. WE ALSO HAVE ADOPTION FOR A TRIAL RUN WITH SOLAR TYPE LIGHTS.AND SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AGAIN.
WE'LL SEE THIS AT A LATER TIME. HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING BREAK AND TODAY WITH MY SON, WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO THE COCOA EVENT AND HOT CHOCOLATE AT THE SQUARE AND IT WAS GOOD ON THE SQUARE
FLEMING. >> I HAVE NOTHING NEW AT THIS TIME.
WATTERS. >> WE HAD THE LEADERSHIP METRO GOVERNMENT DAY AND I WANTED TO THANK AARON AND COUNCIL MEMBER DEPUTY PRO TEM FOR ATTENDING AND SHARING. IT WAS VERY GOOD AND ALSO COMMISSIONER FALCONER, HE WAS MACH MAYOR. THANKSGIVING AT THE AMERICAN LEGION WAS WONDERFUL. POCKET SANDWICH SCROOGE I RECOMMEND.
CURRENT INITIATIVES AND WHAT IS COMING UP IN THE FIRST QUARTER.
>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. APPRECIATE THE UPDATE ON THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER JASON CARPENTER.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANTED TO NOTE I ATTENDEDATTENDED METRO CREST SERVICES BOARD MEETING, GABE MADISON'S FIRST BOARD MEETING.
I THINK SHE'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC ADDITION.
I KNOW TRACY WILL FEEL GOOD KNOWING THAT METRO CREST SERVICES IS LEFT IN GOOD HANDS.
REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THAT TRANSITION
IT WILL BE GOOD TO ENTER RETIREMENT FOR HIM AS EMERITUS AND GABE WILL DO A GREAT JOB.
>> THANK YOU. IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE SPANISH CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY GRADUATION, SO THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. AND IT IS ALWAYS FUN BECAUSE THEY DO IT POTLUCK STYLE AND THEY BRING ALL KINDS OF GREAT FOODS FROM ALL DIFFERENT AREAS IN LATIN AMERICA. IT WAS NICE TO SEE THAT, AND JUST CELEBRATE THEIR GRADUATION FOR THAT.
AND IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET THE WORD OUT TO OTHERS TO CONTINUE GROWING THE SPANISH CPA CLASS. AND THEN AS OUR FELLOW COUNCILWOMAN SAID, I WAS ABLE TO DO THE LEADERSHIP METRO CREST PSEUDOCOUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE WERE ON A PANEL DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL AND IT WAS GREAT. I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
I GAVE THE SUGGESTION THAT THE METRO CREST LEADERSHIP SHOULD ALSO DO A NIGHTTIME VERSION FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE FULL TIME JOBS DURING THE DAY.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I WOULD LOVE TO DO T I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO. I CAME BACK FROM A QUICK WEEKEND IN MEXICO, SO, THAT WAS UNEXPECTED AND FUN AND GOT TO SEE SOME FAMILY AND IT IS ALL GOOD.
SO, THAT'S ALL I GOT. AND THE COWBOYS WON.
>> SO, METRO CRESTCREST CHAMBER, TIED INTO THE LEADERSHIP, CHANGED THEIR LOGO AND CHANGED THEIR NAME, SO WE'LL HAVE MICHAEL COME IN NEXT MEETING OR TWO AND GIVE US A BRIEFING. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT.
BUT SOME EXCITING CHANGES THERE. MAYOR PRO TEM
NOTHING TO REPORT FROM TODAY'S METRO CREST HOSPITAL AUTHORITY BOARD MEETING.
EVERYTHING WENT WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MAYOR STEVEN BABICK AS WELL AS MAYOR RICHARD BOYER FOR ATTENDING THE MARGARITA BALL LAST WEEKEND TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT UNDERPRIVILEGED CHILDREN AT TOYS FOR TOTS. THEY DID ANOTHER AMAZING JOB THIS YEAR FOR -- IN THE METRO CREST OVERALL. TOTALLING OVER 75,000 TOYS THAT WERE COLLECTED JUST THAT NIGHT.
AND OVER $3. 4 MILLION IN DONATIONS FORFOR UNDERPRIVILEGED CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN WHICH MADE IT REALLY EASY TO BE ABLE TO GET UP THE NEXT MORNING AT 6:00 A.M. AND START PACKING TOYS AND INTO TRUCKS.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.
AND THEN JUST WANTED TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING. IT SOUNDED JUST LIKE JUST GENERALLY THAT WE MADE IT THROUGH AT LEAST THIS PORTION OF THE HOLIDAYS WITHOUT TOO MUCH INCIDENT HERE IN THE CITY. BUT WANTED TOTO REMIND
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EVERYONE TO BE SAFE THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON. TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER.I THINK MOST THINGS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
THE THANKSGIVING DAY SOUP KITCHEN, ONCE AGAIN, DID A GREAT GREAT JOB. THEY FEED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTER AND ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AS WELL.
SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT SHE DOES.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME.
>> I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH CANCELING THE DECEMBER 16TH COUNCIL MEETING AND RECONVENING JANUARY 6T H.
>> WE DO HAVE A MINI RETREAT ON THE FRIDAY.
SO, WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IF WE HAVE TO -- IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, WE CAN USE A PORTION OF THAT AND POST IT. AT THIS STAGE, I THINK THAT --
>> WE'LL OFFICIALLY CANCEL THE DECEMBER 16TH MEETING
THEN. >> ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. COUNCIL, WE WILL START RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR.
WE'LL LIKELY HAVE A LOT OF GUESTS OUT THERE.
WE HAVE A LOADED PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS TO GO THROUGH.
[INVOCATION - Councilmember Rowena Watters]
>> WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION.
LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROWENA WATTERS AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCIL MEMBER RICHARD FLEMING. PLEASE RISE.
>> AS WE BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING, LET US ASK FOR A MOMENT OF REFLECTION. WE GATHER WITH A SHARED PURPOSE, TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH FAIRNESS, RESPECT AND THOUGHTFUL INTENTION. MAY WE APPROACH OUR WORK WITH OPEN MINDS, EXCUSE ME, STEADY JUDGMENT, AND A COMMITMENT TO THE COMMON GOOD.
WITH OUR DISCUSSIONS BE GUIDED BY CIVILITY, OUR DECISIONS BY WISDOM AND OUR ACTIONS BY INTEGRITY AS THE HOLIDAY SEASON APPROACHES, MAY WE ALSO CARRY WITH US THE SPIRIT OF KINDNESS, GRATITUDE, AND GOODWILL, NOT ONLY IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES, BUT IN THE WAY WE LEAD AND COLLABORATE HERE TOGETHER TONIGHT. WE ASK THIS OF OUR LORD, AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
[7. Presentation Of ISO 1 Property Protection Classification To Carrollton Fire Rescue By The Texas State Fire Marshal’s Office And Insurance Service Office.]
>> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS WE HAVE A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS TO MAKE. IF I CAN INVITE CHIEF THOMPSON, MR. JEFF EDWARDS AND MR. ERIC DEARMIT TO JOIN ME AT THE PODIUM.
>> MAYOR, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINTECH AND ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS TO COME FORWARD TOO
FOR THIS PRESENTATION. >> COME ON DOWN.
>> TO GET US STARTED, WE INVITE -- TO DO THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF THE INSURANCE OFFICE.
>> MY 2-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER FIGURED OUT HOW TO CALL ME ON HER IPAD.
I'M JEFF EDWARDS, THE FIELD REP WITH THE INSURANCE SERVICE THE SURVEY OF THE FIRE PROTECTION IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO CONGRATULATE Y'ALL ON MAINTAINING THE CLASS ONE RATING. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THE HARD PART IS GETTING TO THE CLASS ONE. IT IS REALLY AN ACHIEVEMENT TO MAINTAIN THE CLASS ONE. ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT A CITY IS EXPERIENCING IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. THIS ISN'T JUST A FIRE DEPARTMENT WRITING. IT IS REALLY A REFLECTION ON THE COMMUNITY. AND HOW WELL THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS PUBLIC SAFETY AND EVERYTHING IN GENERAL. IT SHOWS REAL COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, THE RESIDENTS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE
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THE DEPARTMENT ON MAINTAINING THE CLASS ONE AND IT WAS A REAL PLEASURE WORKING WITH THEM. AND WE'LL PRESENT A PLAQUE .>> YOU STAND IN THE MIDDLE. WE'LL GET A PICTURE RIGHT THERE.
>> ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CHIEF, ON BEHALF OF TEXAS STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO PROTECTING YOUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS, AS MR. EDWARDS SAID, THIS IS NOT AN EASY FEAT.
THERE ARE ONLY 500 DEPARTMENTS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY THAT ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE CLASS ONE RATING. HERE IN TEXAS, WE HAVE 100 OF THOSE 500. SO, IT IS A -- IT IS DEFINITELY A TESTAMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS COMMUNITY, LEADERSHIP OF YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND YOUR PUBLIC WORKS AND THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT ENSURE YOUR SAFETY.
SO, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF CHIEF KNIGHT, CHUCK ALAN AND ALL OF US AT THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
>> I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT WE'RE JUST INCREDIBLY PROUD TO RECEIVE AND MAINTAIN OUR ISO DESIGNATION.
THIS IS NOT JUST A FIRE DEPARTMENT DESIGNATION OR RATING. THIS REALLY DOES REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY AS A TEAM EFFORT BETWEEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER BETTER KNOWN ASAS ENTECH. I WANT TO THANK OUR MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING SUPPORT.
THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE JOINT DISPATCH CENTER AND THE VISION FOR THE JOINT DISPATCH CENTER ALLOWED US TO GET A PERFECT SCORE WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS SAFETY SCORE. IT BOOSTED OUR TRAINING RATING AND REALLY MADE SURE -- ENSURES OUR CREWS ARE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO CALLS. AND THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR FIRE FLEET ALLOWED US TO RECEIVE A PERFECT SCORE FOR OUR FIRE APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT.
AND FINALLY THEIR INVESTMENT IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN ACHIEVING THIS DESIGNATION. ISO 1 RATING IS NOT JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT IS THE COMMUNITY'S ONGOING DEDICATION TO STRONG INFRASTRUCTURE AND EXCEPTIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY, SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
>> I WILL ECHO THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS, THIS IS -- OUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY AS OUR CITY GOVERNMENT IS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. THE SO WHAT OF THE ISO 1 RATING, IT IS A CERTIFIED RATING THAT IS ISSUED BY THE INSURANCE STANDARDS ORGANIZATION TO ENSURE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE. BY HAVING THIS RATING, IT ENSURES THAT YOU ALL AS PROPERTY OWNERS IN CARROLLTON ARE PAYING THE VERY LOWEST RATES YOU POSSIBLY CAN FOR YOUR PROPERTY INSURANCE. SO THAT'S THE SO WHAT ABOUT IT.
IT PAYS DIVIDENDS TO YOU IN TERMS OF LOWER COSTS.
BUT IT ALSO SAVES LIVES. THESE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ANSWER THE CALL EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD FIRST RESPONSE TO ALL INCIDENTS IS KEY.
OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH ENTECH GOES WITH -- IS RIGHT THERE.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ANSWER RT 911 CALL WHEN YOU NEED THEM. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR CITY STAFF, THANK YOU TO OUR FIREFIGHTER TEAM, OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND TO YOU ALL FOR RECOGNIZING THE CITYCITY OF CARROLLTON'S WORK.
[8. Present Certificates To The 2025 Environmental Leadership Recognition Recipients And To The 2025 Environmental Distinction Award Recipients.]
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>> OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE CITY'S PRESENTATION OF OUR CERTIFICATES TO THE 2025 ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP RECOGNITION RECIPIENTS AND TO THE 2025 ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD RECIPIENTS. CARROLLTON IS THE COMMUNITY THAT FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES WANT TO CALL HOME.
WE FOCUS ON THAT AS A CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THAT WE DO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US, GIVEN OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE IS RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR MANUFACTURERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, IN OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLERESPONSIBLE BUSINESS PRACTICES. SO WE DO THIS ANNUALLY.
WE FOCUS EVERY DECEMBER, OUR COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE REGULATED INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE PROVEN THEIR DEDICATION TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND THOSE THAT EXCEL IN REGULATORY COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. TONIGHT IS OUR 23RD YEAR HOSTING THIS RECOGNITION CEREMONY.
THE CEREMONY IS A CULMINATION OF A FULL YEAR OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE FOR 12 OF OUR REGULATED INDUSTRIES. AND FOR TONIGHT'S RECIPIENTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD, THIS RECOGNITION APPLAUDS THE RECIPIENTS ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP AND SUSTAINABLE EFFORTS.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD IS NOT ONLY REVIEWED BY OUR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY STAFF, MR. COREY HEIFEL AND HIS TEAM, OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE THIS YEAR, MAYORMAYOR PRO CHRISTOPHER AXBERG.
HE CHAIRS OUR SELECTION COMMITTEE. AND SO I WILL ASK HIM TO READ THOSE AWARD WINNERS AS WE WALK THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD RECIPIENTS AND THEN THE DISTINCTION AWARDS THEMSELVES. MR. AXBERG.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY OF CARROLLTON CONTINUES TO INVEST IN OUR CITY'S FUTURE AND WE ARE NOT ALONE ON OUR QUEST FOR STABILITY. ACHIEVING THIS REQUIRES PARTICIPATION OF EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. FROM OUR RESIDENTS TO CITY STAFF AND OUR LOCAL INDUSTRIES. EVERY YEAR IN DECEMBER, COUNCIL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES THE REGULATED INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE PROVEN THEIR DEDICATION TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND EXCEL IN REGULATORY COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. TONIGHT IS OUR 23RD YEAR OF HOSTING THIS RECOGNITION CEREMONY.
THIS CEREMONY IS THE CULMINATION OF A FULL YEAR OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE FOR 12 OF OUR REGULATED INDUSTRIES. AND FOR TONIGHT'S RECIPIENTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD, THIS RECOGNITION APPLAUDS THE RECIPIENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP AND STABILITY EFFORTS.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD IS NOT ONLY REVIEWED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY STAFF, CITY COUNCIL IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS THROUGH OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, MYSELF, MAYOR PRO TEM CHRIS AXBERG WHO I CHAIR THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. SO, I WILL NOW PRESENT THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES THAT HAVE ACHIEVED ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP WITH THE CITY'S INDUSTRIAL PREDETERMINANT PROGRAM AND STORMWATER PROGRAM FOR THE 2024- 2025 PRETREATMENT YEAR.
LET US BEGIN. CENTURY PRODUCTS IS REPRESENTED BY ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY MANAGER JASON DEWAAL AND STARTED ITS OPERATIONS IN CARROLLTON IN 1995.
WITH ABOUT 150 EMPLOYEES, CENTURY PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS DISH DETERGENTS, DEGREASERS, HAND SANITIZERS, CLEANSERS AND DISINFECTANTS, THEY HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED NINE TIMES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP.
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NEXT, ELECTROPLATE CIRCULATORY. IT IS REPRESENTED BY VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL MANAGER JIM MCNEIL.THERE ARE TWO FACILITIES HERE IN CARROLLTON, BOTH ARE RECOGNIZED TONIGHT.
DPC MANUFACTURERS PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARDS WITH A FOCUS ON HIGH RELIABILITY CIRCUITRY FOR A DEMANDING MILITARY, AEROSPACE, SPACE EXPLORATION AND SATELLITE SYSTEMS, LOCATED IN CARROLLTON SINCE 2000, EPC EMPLOYS 75 PEOPLE AND RECEIVED THIS RECOGNITION 34 TIMES BETWEEN BOTH FACILITIES.
NEXT, PHYLLIS FOODS IS REPRESENTED BY CHAD MARTINDALE AND BEGAN OPERATIONS IN CARROLLTON IN 2013. THEY HAVE 36 EMPLOYEES AND MANUFACTURE A VARIETY OF SAUCES, DRINKS, MIXES, SEASONINGS AND MARINADES. IT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOUR TIMES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP.
OKAY. DEFINITELY HAVE SOME OF THEIR SAUCES, DRINKS AND MARINADES. THAT SOUNDS DELICIOUS.
IMAGE INDUSTRIES IS REPRESENTED BY PRESIDENT VIVEK GUPTA AND STARTED ITS OPERATIONS IN CARROLLTON IN 1994 WITH ITS 34 EMPLOYEES.
IMAGE INDUSTRIES PROVIDES HIGH QUALITY AND HIGH PRECISION INDUSTRIAL FINISHING SERVICES.
IMAGE INDUSTRIES HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED 20 TIMES FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP AWARD.
INTERNATIONAL PAPER IS REPRESENTED BY HEALTH, SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER LEONARDO SANCHEZ. OPERATIONS BEGAN ON BELTLINE ROAD IN 1968. AND THEY EMPLOY 130 PEOPLE.
THIS FACILITY MANUFACTURES CORRUGATED PAPER CONTAINERS THAT ARE USED TO STORE FOOD, DRINKS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL ITEMS. INTERNATIONAL PAPER ON BELTLINE ROAD HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED TEN TIMES FOR THEIR COMPLIANCE.
QUALITY, POWER CODING IS REPRESENTED BY VICE PRESIDENT OF FINANCE JAMES KERRKERR OFFERS A FULL SPECTRUM OF SERVICES INCLUDING MEDIA BLASTING, POWER COATING, ARCHITECTURAL COATING AND NEW WOOD GRAINS.
NATURAL STONE AND DECORATIVE COATINGS.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 89 EMPLOYEES AND HAVE BEEN IN CARROLLTON SINCE 2002. THIS IS THEIR 15TH TIME BEING RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE.
QUANTUM GLOBAL TECHNOLOGIES IS REPRESENTED BY SENIOR PRODUCT SUPERVISOR STEVE WYNN. QUANTUM CLEANS AND REFURBISHES SEMICONDUCTOR PARTS AND HAS BEEN IN CARROLLTON SINCE 2001.
THEY EMPLOY 36 PEOPLE AND HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED NINE TIMES.
FROZEN BAKERY PRODUCTS, HEALTH AND SAFETY MANAGER SIMON TOBIS. THEY MANUFACTURE REFRIGERATED DOUGH CONSISTING OF ISCUIT CINNAMON ROLLS, SINCE 2002.
THEY EMPLOY 350 PEOPLE AND HAS RECEIVED THIS RECOGNITION 13 TIMES.
CONGRATULATIONS. SWISS AMERICAN IS REPRESENTED BY VICE PRESIDENT IN QUALITY AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE.
LESLIE EARLSTONE, SWISS AMERICAN DEVELOPS TOPICAL SKIN AND WOUND CARE PRODUCTS.
SINCE 2006, THEY EMPLOY 300 PEOPLE AND IS -- THIS IS THEIR SECOND TIME RECEIVING THIS RECOGNITION.
CONGRATULATIONS. TEXAS FINISHING COMPANY IS REPRESENTED BY GENERAL MANAGER KEN MARTIN. THEY MANUFACTURE THE HIGHEST STANDARD METAL FINISHES INCLUDING SPECIALIZED COATING, THEY HAVE BEEN IN CARROLLTON SINCE 1976 AND HAVE 70 EMPLOYEES. TEXAS FINISHING HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED 12 TIMES FOR THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE AND EXCELLENCE.
>> AND FINALLY WE HAVE WASH SOLUTIONS.
IT IS REPRESENTED BY OPERATIONS MANAGER MARK GLAZER.
THEY MANUFACTURE SOAPS AND WAXES FOR CAR WASHING AND DETAILING. THEY BEGAN OPERATIONS IN CARROLLTON IN 2018 AND THEY EMPLOY SEVEN PEOPLE.
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THIS IS THE SEVENTH TIME WASH SOLUTIONS HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR COMPLIANCE.SO, THE NEXT AWARD WE WOULD LIKE TO ISSUE IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD.
THIS YEAR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON HAD OUTSTANDING CANDIDATES APPLY FOR THE CHANCE TO RECEIVE THIS YEAR'S ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD. EACH OF OUR CANDIDATES DISPLAYS OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP IN THE LOCAL CARROLLTON COMMUNITY AND MAKES CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO IMPLEMENT, DEVELOP AND IMPROVE ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES. THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD IS BESTOWED ON INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN CONSISTENTLY COMPLIANT, BUT HAVE ALSO ACHIEVED NOTABLE STRIDES IN THEIR POLLUTION PREVENTION, AND WATER CONSERVATION, ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY STABILITY PROGRAMS. TONIGHT, WE HAVE FIVE RECIPIENTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISTINCTION AWARD. OUR FIRST RECIPIENT IS CENTURY PRODUCTS. THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THEY HAVE RECEIVED THIS AWARD. CENTURY PRODUCTS DEMONSTRATED CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR POLLUTION REDUCTION, ENERGY REDUCTION, WASTE WATER MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND FUTURE GOALS.
A FEW HIGHLIGHTS HAVE BEEN ENERGY COST REDUCTION BY 9%. WATER AND FOOD CLIMATE INITIATIVES WITH TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE G.R.A.D.E.
UPGRADES AND BULK TANK REPLACEMENT, REDUCED WASTE WATER GENERATION, AUTO CLEANING REDUCED WATER USE, AND WASTE WATER GENERATION.
CONGRATULATIONS. OUR SECOND RECIPIENT IS ELECTROPLATE CIRCUITRY. FOR BOTH FACILITIES.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME EPC RECEIVED THIS AWARD.
EPC DEMONSTRATED CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR POLLUTION REDUCTION WASTE WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND FUTURE GOALS. FEW HIGHLIGHTS, REDUCE WASTE WATER, RECYCLED SCRAP METAL, AND SPENT SOLUTIONS INCREASED WASTE TREATMENT CAPABILITIES, EFFICIENCY, AND INSTALLING BRAND- NEW WATERSHED TREATMENT SYSTEMS AND PART OF THE CITY'S ADOPT A SPOT PROGRAM.
OUR THIRD RECIPIENT IS IMAGE INDUSTRIES.
THIS IS THEIR SECOND TIME RECEIVING THIS AWARD.
THEY HAVE SHOWN THEIR COMMITMENT TO BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY IN CARROLLTON FOR MORE YEARS AND HAVE RECEIVED THE ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP RECOGNITION MORE THAN ANY OTHER FACILITY.
A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FROM THIS PAST YEAR HAS BEEN REPLACING ALL ROOFING INSULATION, INSTALL 20 ENERGY SAVING AC UNITS, REPLACING ALL INDOOR DUST COLLECTORS, INSTALL HIGH EFFICIENCY AIR FILTERS, RECYCLING ALL METAL PAPER AND CARDBOARD. OUR FOURTH RECIPIENT IS REAL CORP. FROZEN BAKERY PRODUCTS.
THIS IS THEIR SECOND TIME RECEIVING THIS AWARD. REAL CORP. HAS DEMONSTRATED CONSIDERABLE COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL STABILITY THROUGH THEIR POLLUTION, PREVENTION EFFORTS, WASTE REDUCTION PRACTICES, VARIOUS RECYCLING INITIATIVES AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. SOME OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDE REDUCED GAS, NATURAL GAS USING EMISSIONS, INCREASED CARDBOARD RECYCLING BY OVER 400%, AND INCREASED LANDFILL DIVERSION FOOD WASTE, INVERTED TO ANIMAL FEED.
CONGRATULATIONS. OUR FIFTH AND FINAL RECIPIENT IS SWISS AMERICAN. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SWISS AMERICAN'S RECEIVING THIS AWARD.
SWISS AMERICAN HAS DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL STABILITY THROUGH THEIR POLLUTION PREVENTION WASTE REDUCTION AND RECYCLING INITIATIVES. SOME OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDE RECYCLING PAPER, ELECTRONICS, DRUMS, AND TOTES, INSTALLATION OF MOTION SENSOR L.E.D. LIGHTING, WATER RECLAMATION SYSTEMS BEING INSTALLED, REDUCED WATER AND CHEMICAL CONSUMPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF INITIATIVES THROUGH STABILITY TEAMS. WE HEARD THE COMMITMENT OF CENTURY PRODUCTS, ELECTROPLATE CIRCUITRY IMAGE INDUSTRIES, REAL CORP. FROZEN PRODUCTS AND SWISS AMERICAN TO IMPROVE THEIR PROCESS AND CONTINUE TO GIVE BACK TO CARROLLTON'S COMMUNITY.
WE APPLAUD YOU ALL. YOUR EFFORTS TO INTEGRATE SOUND ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES INTO YOUR OPERATIONS BY DOING SO YOU HELP THE CITY OF CARROLLTON AND ITS GOALS AND DIRECTION TOWARD COMMUNITY STABILITY.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU.
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>> AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE.
THESE ARE SOME OF OUR MAJOR EMPLOYERS HERE IN CARROLLTON. AND AS YOU SAW THOSE SLIDES, YOU MAY HAVE TALLIED UP THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT EACH OF THOSE HAVE. AND SO KNOWING THAT THESE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURERS AND BUSINESSES FOCUS ON OUR ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ALL LIVE AND SHARE IN OUR NEIGHBORLY FRIENDLY IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US, AND SO THANK YOU FOR SETTING THE EXAMPLE FOR YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR EMPLOYEES WITHIN YOUR ESTABLISHMENT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[CITIZEN COMMENT]
>> OKAY, COUNCIL. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO COMMENT ON AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 THROUGH 23, THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, TO DO SO AT THIS TIME. I HAVE A FEW CARDS FOR -- TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 10 THROUGH 23.
I'LL CALL YOU NOW. MY FIRST SPEAKER IS PHILIP HAGUE.
>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PHILIP HAGUE, I LIVE AT 1125 LADY CAROL LANE IN LEWISVILLE, TEXAS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE SHORT- TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
THAT'S NUMBER 19 ON THE AGENDA, IF I'M CORRECT.
BASICALLY I WANTED TO DISCUSS TWO POINTS AND MY WIFE WILL DISCUSS A FEW OTHERS. ON THAT ITEM THAT HAS BEEN PASSED OR GOING TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT, THERE IS A COUPLE ITEMS ON THERE I WANTED TO DISCUSS.
ONE WAS NOISE MONITORING ON THE AIRBNBS AND VRBOS AND SO ON.
AND JUST HOW THAT'S DONE. I GET THE MONITORING OF THE NOISE INSIDE THE PROPERTY, YOU'RE WANTING TO MONITOR THE NOISE OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS NOT A LOT OF PRODUCTS OUT THERE THAT DO THAT BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO DETERMINE WHAT NOISE IS SIGNIFICANT.
DO I WANT TO HEAR A PERSON, A DOG, A CAR DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, SOMEONE THREE HOUSES OVER? IT CAN'T FILTER THAT. SO, IT IS HARD, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A DECIBEL LEVEL AND ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO SEND YOU AN ALERT AND YOU NEED TO USE A CAMERA TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
SO MOST ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, I SPEAK FOR ALL OURS, ALL OURS HAVE CAMERAS AND THEY'RE ACTIVATED BY MOTION, WHICH THEY ALSO PROVIDE YOU SOUND.
SO IF SOMEONE WALKS IN THE BACKYARD, FRONT YARD, NEAR THE HOUSE, THAT CAMERA IS GOING TO TRIGGER THE MOTION AND THE SOUND IS GOING TO KICK IN AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
JUST A NOISE MONITOR ONLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A DECIBEL AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WARNING, AND THEN YOU GOT TO GO TO THE CAMERA TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT REALLY IS AND WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT WAS MY THING.
ADDITIONALLY IT IS AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE AIRBNB OWNER AND ADDITIONAL SUBSCRIPTION YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY DOING RING CAMERAS OR CLOSED- CIRCUIT CAMERAS. I FEEL IT IS REDUNDANT FOR THE OUTSIDE. IF IT IS FOR THE INSIDE, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. I SEE THE VALUE ON THE INSIDE. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE ADDITIONAL INSURANCE REQUIREMENT, PART OF THE SHORT-TERM PROCESS IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLAR LIABILITY POLICY. FOR ONE HOUSE, $780.
THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE FOR AN AIRBNB OWNER.
WE HAVE LANDLORD POLICIES, $500,000 GENERAL LIABILITY COVERAGE ALREADY.
NOW YOU'RE BUMPING UP TO $1. 5 MILLION IN COVERAGE.
AND JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE, THAT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE TO OWNERS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PROPERTY.
IF YOU HAVE 20 PROPERTIES, 10 PROPERTIES, YOU CAN SPREAD THAT OUT LIKE ANY OTHER THING.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING PEOPLE TO, HEY, AS YOU RE- EVALUATE THIS ORDINANCE÷÷ BEFORE IT IS PASSED, TO CONSIDER THOSE ITEMS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSING WITH AIRBNB OWNERS, WE GET THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, WE GOT COVERAGE HERE, THE NOISE MONITORING, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO COME UP WITH REASONABLE STANDARD AND FOLLOW THOSE REASONABLE STANDARDS.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS ANGELA HAGUE.
ANGELA. ANGELA, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> SO, I'LL HAVE TO TALK FAST. JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT PHILIP SAID, LISTENED TO YOUR WORK SESSION, I KNOW YOU HAVE GREAT INTENTIONS WITH THE STR ORDINANCE AND I AGREE WITH
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95%. THERE IS A FEW ITEMS I WANTED TO POINT OUT. I KNOW YOU MEAN WELL, BUT ON THE PRACTICAL SIDE FOR US, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE AND BURDENSOME. ONE IS THE BACKGROUND CHECKS. AGAIN, LISTENING TO YOUR WORK SESSION, I BELIEVE THAT THE IMPRESSION YOU GUYS HAD WAS THAT THE BOOKING PLATFORMS LIKE AIRBNB AND VRBO DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THEY DO NOT.THE ORDINANCE AS IT READS RIGHT NOW SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO PERFORM BACKGROUND CHECKS ON EVERY ADULT THAT STAYS IN THE PROPERTY. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A LITTLE UNCLEAR, BUT MAYBE A SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY CHECK AS WELL AND MAINTAIN THAT FOR 12 MONTHS ALSO HAVE TO COLLECT I.D. S FOR EVERY PERSON THAT -- EVERY ADULT THAT STAYS AT THE PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT YOU GUYS THINK THAT AIRBNB AND THE PLATFORMS WILL PROVIDE US WITH THAT INFORMATION. THEY DO NOT DO THAT.
THEY GET AN I.D. FOR THE ONE PERSON THAT BOOKS THE PROPERTY. AND THEY DO NOT DO BACKGROUND CHECKS. IF YOU PASS THIS ORDINANCE AS IT IS, THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE MY LIFE. I'LL SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY TRYING TO RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK. IF I HAVE SOMEONE THAT BOOKS MY PROPERTY FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS AT $150 A NIGHT AND THERE ARE SIX ADULTS AND I HAVE TO RUN SIX BACKGROUND CHECKS, WELL, FIRST, I HAVE TO COLLECT ALL THE I.D. S AND I CAN'T GUARANTEE THEY'LL GIVE ME THOSE. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION REQUIRED, GET CONSENT FOR THEM TO RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK, I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR, IF THEY HAVE A FELONY, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO BOOK THEM? IF THEY ARE LISTED AS A SEX OFFENDER, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO BOOK -- ALLOW THEM TO STAY ON THE PROPERTY? THEN I HAVE TO GO BACK TO AIRBNB, CANCEL THE RESERVATION, AIRBNB FINES ME BECAUSE I CANCELED A RESERVATION AND I LOST A LOT OF MONEY. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY IT READS NOW, THIS IS EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING AND VERY BURDENSOME AND VERY EXPENSIVE FOR US. I'M REALLY HOPING YOU GUYS WILL RECONSIDER THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR US.
>> THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THE OCCUPANCY
CHARTS. >> YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNETTE HALL, SPEAKING ON PARDON ME. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
THANK YOU. MY NEXT CARD IS FROM JAMES HALL, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. OKAY.
MY NEXT SPEAKER IS HAREESH RAYMOND, SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> I'M HAREESH, A BUSINESS OWNER, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE ON HEBRON -- THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON ITEM NUMBER I THINK 27 ON YOUR DOCKET. FOR THE MULTIFAMILY CHANGE.
WE ARE THE -- >> I'M SORRY, YOU'RE SPEAKING ON
WHICH ITEM? >> I THINK 27? BUT IT IS THE IDP NUMBER NINE ZONING CHANGE.
>> THAT'S FINE. I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP FOR THAT ITEM. THIS IS ITEMS NUMBER 10 THROUGH 23 ONLY. AND, AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, JAMES HALL AND ANNETTE HALL, YOUR CARD SAYS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. OKAY.
SO THAT'S OUR WORK SESSION ITEM.
YOU'RE OPPOSED. I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE ITEM? OKAY. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'LL MODIFY. THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 27.
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
THAT CONCLUDES MY PUBLIC COMMENT÷÷PERIOD ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS÷÷ITEMS 10 THROUGH 23.WITH THAT, ANY DISCUSSION OR OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE ITEMS 10 THROUGH 23 ON THE CONSENT
AGENDA. >> ITEM NUMBER 10 IS STIPULATED.
STIPULATED. >> AND COUNCIL MEMBER
CLINE. >> I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT
MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BY TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 23. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS STIPULATED.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE VOTE.
[24. Hold A Public Hearing And Consider A Resolution To Adopt The Program Year 2024 Consolidated Annual Performance And Evaluation Report On The Use Of Community Development Block Grant Funds.]
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AND THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.THAT TAKES US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. MY FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER 24. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE PROGRAM YEAR 2024 CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT ON THE USE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
YOU MAY RECALL IN THE SUMMER WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM THAT STIPULATES HOW WE PLAN TO SPEND THE FUNDING.
THIS IS OUR END OF THE YEAR FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2024 TO SHOW TO COUNCIL AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON HOW THAT FUNDING WAS SPENT.
AS A QUICK REFRESHER, THIS IS A HUD REQUIRED REPORT WE SUBMIT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SEEN, REVIEWED AND APPROVED FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMISSION HELD ON NOVEMBER 13TH. AND FOR THIS PROGRAM YEAR, THERE WAS AN ALLOCATION RECEIVED FROM HUD FOR $711,716.
IN ADDITION TO THAT ALLOCATION, THERE ARE SOME UNSPENT FUNDS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS LATER THAT WERE ALSO INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM YEAR. KEEPING WITH OUR FIVE- YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THESE PROJECTS ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS.
THE CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR HOUSING REHABILITATION PROJECTS, AND LOW TO MODERATE INCOME CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC SERVICES. THE FIRST ITEM, WE SPENT $643,126 ON PARKS IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST THOMAS PARK, WHICH REPLACED A SPLASH PAD CONTROLLER. FRANCIS PERRY PARK, THE REPLACE OF A BASKETBALL COURT AND NEW PLAYGROUND TURF.
JIMMY PORTER PARK RECEIVED NEW PLAYGROUND TURF. ARI GOOD RECEIVED FENCING REPLACEMENT. NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND DOWNTOWN SQUARE RECEIVED LIGHTING AND PERGOLA STRUCTURE ON THE SQUARE.
ADDITIONALLY, $285,857 WAS SPENT ON STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THOSE TWO PROJECTS INCLUDED THE CARROLLTON HEIGHTS PHASE ONE AS SHOWN IN THE MAP THERE.
AS WELL AS THE 2200 BLOCK OF BOWIE DRIVE FOR THE ALLEY REPLACEMENT.
$104,377 SPENT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THIS PROGRAM YEAR THAT WAS METRO CREST SERVICES FOR THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THEIR HOMELESS RESPONSE PROGRAM.
DURING THAT PROGRAM YEAR, THEY ASSISTED 667 HOMELESS OR NEAR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. NEXT ITEM WAS $75,593. THAT GOES TO THE STAFF SALARY AS WELL AS BENEFITS FOR THE CODE OFFICER THAT ARE PERFORMING THE ENHANCED CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTIONS ON MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS. DURING THAT PROGRAM YEAR, ALMOST 4200 DEPARTMENT UNITS WERE INSPECTED. OF THAT, NEARLY 2600 SUBSTANDARD UNITS WERE FOUND TO HAVE VIOLATIONS AND WERE BROUGHT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
THAT ENSURES THAT WE HAVE SAFE LIVABLE CONDITIONS IN OUR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME MULTIFAMILY UNITS. NEXT WAS $75,905 WHICH COVERED EIGHT DIFFERENT MINOR HOME REPAIR PROJECTS.
THESE ARE INCOME QUALIFYING FAMILIES THAT HAVE A MINOR REPAIR NEEDED ON THEIR HOME. SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU SEE IN THE PHOTOS.
WE ASSISTED EIGHT DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS LAST PROGRAM YEAR.
NEXT WAS $32,210 TOWARD THE CARROLLTON BLACK CEMETERY PHASE ONE PROJECT.
THIS INCLUDED THE LAND SURVEY, SO WE KNEW THE BOUNDARY MARKERS FOR SUBSEQUENT PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED AT THE CEMETERY AS WELL AS TO PERFORM THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR FOR GRAVE IDENTIFICATION WITHIN THE FENCED AREA. THE ADMINISTRATION, $72,735, THAT COVERS VARIOUS EXPENSES DURING THE PROGRAM YEAR INCLUDING STAFF TRAINING, THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, AS WELL AS THE CONSULTANT THAT PERFORMED AT ANALYSIS OF IMPEDIMENTS REPORT. SO IN TOTAL, IN ADDITION TO THE ALLOCATED AMOUNT, CITY OF CARROLLTON SPENT $1. 2
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MILLION TO BENEFIT OUR CARROLLTON LOW TO MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS.WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M ALSO HERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE. >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING.
>> YES, SIR. CURRENTLY DO WE HAVE A CBDG POLICY ON HOW WE LIKE TO UTILIZE THE FUND WITHIN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON?
>> YES. SO, EVERY FIVE YEARS COUNCIL REVIEWS AND APPROVES THE FIVE- YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT IS PUT TOGETHER THROUGH A CONSULTANT THAT WE UTILIZE AND, AGAIN, THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THAT IS TO BENEFIT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS. THEY LOOK AT VARIOUS WAYS WE CAN USE THAT FUNDING AS ALLOWED BY HUD TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.
>> I GUESS MORE SO WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS AS I SEE WHAT $643,126 WENT TO PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS WE PUT IN EACH
BUCKET? >> FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PARKS OR --
>> YES. FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PARKS.
LIKE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, METRO CREST SERVICES, ET CETERA?
>> THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE'LL PARTNER WITH THE VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND ESSENTIALLY DO FUNDING REQUESTS.
NOW WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT EACH OF THOSE MEET THE VARIOUS METRICS THAT HUD LAYS OUT FOR ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
USING THE PARKS AS AN EXAMPLE, THOSE ARE ALL LOCATED WITHIN LOW TO MODERATE INCOME
NEIGHBORHOODS. >> COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE DID -- I THINK WE COMMISSIONED OUTSIDE FIRM TO DO A HUD STUDY.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY IS OR ARE WE GOING TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THAT?
>> YES. COUNCIL RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION IN 2024, THAT WOULD BE THAT FIVE- YEAR CONSOLIDATED
I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION, I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE SPEND OUR FUNDS ON THE HIGH IMPACT PROJECTS. I LIKE THE HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ANYTHING TO HELP KEEP OUR CITIZENS AND OUR HOUSES FOR THE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME FOLKS. THAT'S MY JAM.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR SICKLE CYCLE AND ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS TO GO THROUGH THE PARKS WITHIN THE FUNDS BEING EXPENDED, IS THAT RIGHT?
COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. BUT IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW.
SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND COUNCIL, WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
COUNCIL MEMBER AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO
TELL PALOMO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 24.
AXBERG. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THE
MOTION. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMO AND SEX COND BY MAYOR PROVIDE TELL AXBERG, THE CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE ON THE USE OF COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE VOTE. AND THE MOTION PASSES
[25. Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning To Amend SUP-413 To Allow Modified Conceptual Plans On An Approximately 5.426-Acre Tract Zoned PD-189 For The (O-4) Office District And Located At 1401 East Trinity Mills Road; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLSUP 2025-171 Trinity Mills OR Expansion.]
UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 25.THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING TO AMEND SUP 413 TO ALLOWED MODIFIED CONCEPTUAL PLANS ON APPROXIMATELY 5.426 ACRE TRACT ZONED PD 189 FOR THE 04 OFFICE DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT 1401 EAST TRINITY MILLS ROAD, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY THIS IS CASE NUMBER PLSUP 2025- 171, TRINITY MILLS OR EXPANSION.
>> GOOD EVENING. LAWRENCE SHAPIRO.
THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT MODIFICATION BEFORE YOU IS TO ADD ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FEET TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE EXISTING LEGION HOSPITAL.
BECAUSE IT IS AN EXPANSION, BEYOND THE 6,000 FEET THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED BACK IN 2022, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF OR SPACE, A SINGLE STORY ON THE FIRST FLOOR. PROVIDED ELEVATIONS TO SHOW THAT SINGLE STORY, THAT'S ON THE RIGHT, SHOWING IN THE EXHIBIT HERE. SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE SUP. IT IS PRETTY MINOR CHANGE.
THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE
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COUNCIL.>> OKAY, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OTHERWISE WE'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
OKAY, SEEING NO QUESTIONS. IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, YOU MAY DO SO.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LOGAN LINDSEY, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT WITH KIMLEY-HORN. AS MR. SHAPIRO MENTIONED, THIS PROJECT HAS GONE THROUGH A COUPLE SUP REVISIONS.
MOST OF THESE ARE REVISIONS DUE TO EXPANSIONS.
ALSO AS HE MENTIONED, THERE IS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SUP TO ADD 6,000 SQUARE FEET. WE'RE COMING IN, THAT WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED, WE'RE COMING IN ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 1500.
AS PART OF THIS, THERE WAS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL PIECE ON SUP TO THE NORTH END OF THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER DOING WITH THIS SUP.
SO WE ARE REMOVING THAT COMPONENT FROM THE EXPANSION. WE ARE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ADDING SIX PARKING STALLS FOR THIS EXPANSION AND IT WASN'T REQUIRED BY CODE, HOWEVER WE'RE JUST ADDING IT WITH OUR EXPANSION TO JUST INCREASE THE PARKING FOR THE OVERALL CAMPUS.
AND THEN THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS EXPANSION IS THE LEGION HOSPITAL, THEY'RE CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THEIR CAMPUSES AND THEY'RE BRINGING THEM ALL IN TO A PRIMARY LOCATION HERE IN CARROLLTON.
AND MYSELF AND THE OWNER ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DONNELLY. >> MY NAME IS STEPHEN DONNELLY 12531 WE ARE HERE TO CONSOLIDATE MULTIPLE IN PLANO, RICHARDSON AND THIS IS THE LARGEST IN CARROLLTON. OUR PATIENT STAFF HAVE TO TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND BY CONSOLIDATING ALL OPERATIONS TO ONE LOCATION NOT ONLY PROVIDE BETTER CARE, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE PATIENT SAFETY , BETTER OUTCOMES AND ULTIMATELY LOWER COST. I WANT TO STATE RECENTLY THROUGH PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT WE ARE NOW PARTNERED WITH HSS HOSPITAL FOR SPECIAL SURGERY WHICH FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS HAS BEEN THE NUMBER ONE ORTHOPEDIC HOSPITAL SYSTEM IN THE NATION.
SO BY THAT PARTNERSHIP AND BY CONSOLIDATING THIS LOCATION WE PLAN TO HAVE A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY WITH THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY BRINGING THE BEST ORTHOPEDIC CARE TO THE AREA SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS PROJECT THANK
YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF WERE THE APPLICANT? OTHERWISE THE APPLICANT IS WELCOME TO MAKE A REBUTTAL AGAINST THE SPEAKER , THE SPEAKER WAS FOR IT SO I SUSPECT NOT. WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR
DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA
>> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> MOTION AND A SECOND TO PROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 CASE NUMBER 2025-171 TRINITY MILLS OR EXPANSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NON-I WILL CALL THE VOTE. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT TAKES US TO
[26. Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning To Establish A Special Use Permit To Allow An “Amusement Arcade (Excluding Adult Arcade)” Located At 4070 SH 121, Suite 312, And Zoned (PD 197) Planned Development For The (LR-2) Local Retail District; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLSUP 2025-157 Claw Arcade.]
ITEM NUMBER 26 PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW ARCADE EXCLUDING ADULT ARCADE LOCATED AT 4070 STATE HIGHWAY 121 SUITE 312 ZONE PD 197 PLAN DEVELOPMENT LR TWO LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT AMENDING THE ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY CASE NUMBER 2025-157FOR THE ARCADE MR. SHAPIRO. >> THE NEW SEP REQUESTED IS MERELY TO OCCUPY A SMALLER SUITE , IT WILL CONTAIN 50 GAMES, LOCATED WITHIN THE SHOPPING CENTER IN SUITE 312. THAT WILL
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HAVE 50 CLAW MACHINES, GAMING STATIONS, THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE REQUESTED OPERATION TIMES. THE BUSINESS INDICATED IN YOUR RESULTS SHEET MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 11:00 UNTIL 9:00 , SATURDAY 11:00 UNTIL 11:00 AND SUNDAY 12:00 UNTIL 9:00. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WAS STIPULATION CONTAINED IN THE CASE REPORT THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.>> OKAY COUNCIL. DOES THE APPLICANT WAS TO MAKE A STATEMENT OR JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OF WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BUT IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM SEEING NON-I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ON THIS MATTER OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ENTERTAINING A MOTION, COUNCILMEMBER WATTERS.
>> THANK YOU, MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 26 .
>> VERY GOOD, COUNCILMEMBER CLINE.
>> HAPPY TO SECOND THE MOTION. >> WITH THAT MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WATTERS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CLINE TO PROVE AGENDA ITEM 26 CASE NUMBER 2025-157 CLAW ARCADE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NON-, I WILL CALL THE VOTE. THE
[27. Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning On An Approximately 14.32 Acre Tract Zoned PD-148 For The (HC) Heavy Commercial District And Generally Located On The Southeast Corner Of East Hebron Parkway And Marsh Lane To Repeal and Replace Ordinance No. 3911, Reestablishing Planned Development 148; To Change The Base Zoning On A Portion Of Said Tract From (HC) Heavy Commercial District To (MF-18) Multifamily Residential District, To Add Development Standards, And To Add Conceptual Plans; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLZ 2025-133 IBP 9.]
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY , CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 27 HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING APPROXIMATELY 14.32 ACRE TRACT ZONE PD 148 FOR THE HC HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF EAST HEBRON PARKWAY AND MARSHALING TO REPEAL AND REPLACE ORDINANCE NUMBER 3911 REESTABLISHING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 140 A TO CHANGE BASE ZONING ON A PORTION OF TRACT FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO ADD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ADD CONCEPTUAL PLANS AMENDING OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY THIS IS CASE NUMBER PLC 2025-133 IDP 9.>> FINDING DEVELOPMENT BEFORE YOU IS TO AMEND A LARGER PLAN DEVELOPMENT 148 FOR APPROXIMATELY 14 ACRES , CURRENTLY AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS VACANT ADJACENT TO LARGE TRUCKS TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AS OFFICE WAREHOUSE, RETAIL, TO THE EAST AND ADDITIONAL RETAIL AND SERVICES TO THE WEST. THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL LOCATED ADJOINING IT IS CATTY CORNER WHICH IS THE RETIREMENT COMMITTEE TO THE NORTHWEST. THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE OVERALL PD, THE TRACKS WE ARE FOCUSED ON AMENDING THE PD SPECIFICALLY IS ONE AND 2. THE TOP PORTION THE COLOR VERSION IS A LITTLE EASIER TO READ THE TOP PORTION IS APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES CONTAINING 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HEBRON PARKWAY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MARSH LANE MULTI FAMILY AND TWO BUILDINGS WITH INTEGRATED PARKING ALONG WITH COURTYARD FEATURES AND THE CENTER PORTION AND THEY ARE LOCATED ALONG MARSH LANE AND ALONG A PORTION OF INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY. THEY ARE PROPOSING 406 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT INCLUDES 10 TOWNHOME MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON THE BUILDINGS ON THE FURTHEST PART OF THE SCREEN ON THE BOTTOM AND LIKE I MENTIONED , THE RETAIL FACING OUT TO HEBER ON PARKWAY. THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING TO THE SOUTHEAST WITH THE RETAIL AND IN THE FOREGROUND THE MULTIFAMILY IN THE BACKGROUND WITH INTEGRATED PARKING GENERALLY NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET SOME OF THE AMENITIES INCLUDED INCLUDING ELEVATIONS FOR THE RETAIL PORTION IS THEY WILL HAVE A PERMANENT WATER FEATURE AND RETENTION WITH A FOUNTAIN LOCATED BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY LOCATED SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF HEBRON AND MARSH WITH RETAIL TO THE NORTH THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THERE WILL BE OUTDOOR DINING THAT WILL PROVIDE AMENITY WITH A WATER FEATURE IN THE MIDDLE AS WELL AS THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE. THIS
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IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING TO THE NORTHEAST WITH THE FOUNTAIN FUTURE AND RETAINING WALL THIS IS SOME ELEVATION PROVIDED, THEY PROVIDED ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO EACH OF THE TWO LARGE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS AS I PASS THROUGH THESE AND THEY WILL HAVE INTEGRATED PARKING. LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE TO THE BOTTOM PART ON THE SOUTH SIDE THEY HAVE TWO BUILDINGS THAT WILL CONTAIN MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES SO BUILT LIKE TOWNHOMES PART OF THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY, THEY PROVIDED STREETSCAPE AND LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE SITE INCLUDING ADJACENT TO THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND THE REVIVAL CHURCH. THIS IS THE NOTIFICATION AREA WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY PROVIDED TO STAFF AND REVIEWED WITH A LARGE ZONING CASE . WE FELT FROM WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US THAT THEY PROVIDED SUFFICIENT MITIGATION TO THE SIDE, TOM HAMMONDS THE TRAFFIC MANAGER IS HERE TO PRESENTFINDINGS FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING MANAGER. AS LAUREN SAID TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PERFORMED BY TRAFFIC IMPACT GROUP AND IT ANTICIPATES THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC DUE TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BUT WE REVIEWED THE STUDY IT INDICATES THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT BUT IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED FOR THE COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, IN ADDITION THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS NEAR THE DEVELOPMENT WERE ANALYZED, CURRENTLY OPERATING AT LEVEL SERVICE C IN THE MORNING AND D IN THE AFTERNOON WHICH IS PRETTY HEAVY TRAFFIC. IT WILL BE MORE TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT EVEN WITH THE BUILD CONDITION THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WILL REMAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE C IN THE MORNING AND D IN THE AFTERNOON. THIS IS VERY COMMON THIS IS A HEAVY TRAFFIC ARTERIAL, COMMON LEVEL SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR AND WITH THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HAMMONS OR MR. SHAPIRO REGARDING THIS ITEM? MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. MR. HAMMOND, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC WAS IT CONSIDERING YOU WERE SAYING IN THE MORNING AS WELL AS THE AFTERNOON? WAS IT A SPECIFIC DAY OR WAS THERE VARIANCE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY SATURDAY SUNDAY
ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> WELL, WEEKDAYS ARE PRETTY SIMILAR IT WAS ONE DAY AND WE VERIFY THAT HAD NOT BEEN OUT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS AND WE ALSO HAVE TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM TXDOT , WE HAVE DONE BUT THE DATA WE GOT WITH THE STUDY WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE WITH THE DATA.
>> THANK YOU, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE SPECIFICALLY ON SUNDAYS A■T HE INTERSECTION OU HAVE FIVE CHURCHES IN THAT AREA THAT ARE EMPTIED OUT. THERE IS CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE WEEKENDS SPECIFICALLY SUNDAY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
>> THE TRAFFIC STUDY DOES NOT ADDRESS SUNDAY TRAFFIC . WE ARE AWARE OF THE CHURCH IS NEARBY I KNOW THAT THERE ARE POLICE OFFICERS , BUT THERE IS POLICE OFFICERS THAT DIRECT TRAFFIC WHEN CHURCH IS GOING OUT OF SERVICE, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IS AN ISSUE. IT OCCURS ON SUNDAY WHEN THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC IS VERY LOW SO WHILE THE IMPACT COMES BY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN CHURCH IS LET OUT, IT IS ADDRESSED BY THE CHURCH AND THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT THEY HAVE ON-SITE AND IT IS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND IT IS , AT A TIME WHEN THERE IS LOW BACKGROUND DRIVING. TYPICALLY, THROUGHOUT THE CITY WE DO NOT REQUIRE MITIGATION OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH SITES FOR CHURCH
PROPERTIES. >> JUST DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND ADJACENT ACROSS THE STREET IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I BEG YOUR PARDON. >> ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ZONE PROPERTY RIGHT? THE TRAFFIC , ON SUNDAYS HEAVY TRAFFIC COMING IS ACROSS THE STREET I AM MAKING SURE I AM HEARING THIS
CORRECTLY. >> YES, JUST TO THE NORTH, JUST ABOVE THE FIGURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT IS PRESTON WOOD BAPTIST CHURCH AND POLICE OFFICERS ARE AT THE INTERNATIONAL SIGNAL AND AT THE DRIVEWAYS AND BANDITRY IS JUST TO THE SOUTH.
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>> MY OTHER QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO MARSH LANE EMPTYING OUT TO THE NORTH OR SOUTH , PRIMARILY NORTH. WHEN UNDERSTANDING FROM YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND WHAT YOU HAVE WITNESSED THERE THAT RIGHT NOW IT IS IN COMPLIANCE OR IS NOT DESIGNATED AS A SEVERE TRAFFIC AREA WITH
ANY TRAFFIC PROBLEMS? >> IT HAS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IT IS A HEAVY TRAFFIC INTERSECTION BUT IT IS SIMILAR TO ALL ARTERIAL INTERSECTIONS SO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS TYPICAL OF WHAT WE
HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. >> ANY DISTINCTION BETWEEN IF THEY HAVE A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE OR EXCLUSIVE RIGHT HAND TURN LANE OR TURN LANES GOING IN? IS THAT CONSIDERATION?
>> WE MAKE THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THIS INTERSECTION AND OTHERS WITH THE SAME TRAFFIC THAT ARE SIMILAR.
>> THEY OPERATE IN A SIMILAR CONDITION. THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A FEW MITIGATIONS THAT THEY WILL BE.
>> BEING ABLE TO CLARIFY THE BASIS THAT YOU ARE MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY CAME UP WITH IN SAYING THAT THIS TRAFFIC IN THIS LOCATION CURRENTLY IS TYPICAL FOR THE CITY OF SIMILAR INTERSECTIONS . DO I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED UNITS THAT I'M SURE WE WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT, THE INCREMENTAL TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE GENERATED FROM THE MIXED USE OF THIS PROPERTY YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THAT EXISTING TRAFFIC BEYOND WHAT IS CONSIDERED NORMAL WITH OTHER INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC WILL HAVE A SMALL INCREASE IN THE DELAY AND IT WILL FALL WITHIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICES TYPICAL AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR. >> AS YOU LOOK AT THIS EXHIBIT AND AS YOU THINK ABOUT REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THE ENTRY POINT INTO THIS I'M COUNTING TWO OFF OF MARSH THE ENTRY POINTS AND THE EGRESS BUT THE EGRESS ARE RIGHT TURNS. IS
THAT RIGHT? >> ON MARSH. RIGHT IN AND WRITE
OUT. >> NO LEFT TURNS OUT OF THAT AND THEN THERE IS A ENTRY AND EGRESS TO THE NORTH ON THIS WHICH IS A
>> AND THEN ON THE INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY THERE ARE TWO ENTRY POINTS AND EGRESS POINTS THAT ARE MIXED, ONE RIGHT IN AND WRITE OUT AND THE SOUTHERNMOST BEING BIDIRECTIONAL?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO THE BIDIRECTIONAL TRAFFIC EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN AND OUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BOTTOM
RIGHT ENTRY IS THAT FAIR? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> OKAY WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER
CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU A LIST I WOULD TRAFFIC QUESTIONS MR. HAMMONS I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS PERFORMED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IT MENTIONS THAT ALL MOVEMENTS WILL BE AT LEVEL OF SERVICE E OR BETTER , BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU INDICATE C WOULD REMAIN AND D AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR OPINION AND WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OPINION IS.
>> MY OPINION AND THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ARE THE SAME SO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE REFERENCED IS FOR SPECIFIC MOVEMENTS. FOR INSTANCE AT MARSH AND HEBRON THE TWO LEFT TURNS OFF OF HEBRON OPERATE LEVEL SERVICE EAST OPERATING AT E TODAY AND THEY WILL OPERATE AT E WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS TELLING YOU I BELIEVE THE THRESHOLD IS 55 SECONDS PER VEHICLE ON THE MOVEMENT SO SINCE THE HEAVY TRAFFIC IS ON THE PARKWAY WE HAVE TO DEDICATE A LOT OF EAST AND WEST OF HEBRON PARKWAY WHEN THE TIME IS DEDICATED TO THE THROUGH MOMENTS YOU SENT IN THE LEFT TURN BAY 55 SECONDS SO THOSE SPECIFIC MOVEMENTS WOULD BE E . THE INTERSECTION AS A WHOLE TO DETERMINE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS WHAT IS THE DELAY PER VEHICLE FOR ALL VEHICLES AND THAT'S WHAT COMES OUT C IN THE MORNING AND D IN THE AFTERNOON.
>> THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE DISCREPANCY. I WANTED TO MAKE
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SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS WELL I AM CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND SO WE HAVE THIS DESIGNATION OF MULTIFAMILY 18 , YET WE DISCUSSING THE DOCUMENTS THERE IS A DENSITY OF 44 UNITS SO I WONDER IF YOU COULD HELP EXPLAIN TO ME THE DIFFERENCETHERE AND WHAT THAT MEANS. >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
WHAT WE USE AND IS TYPICALLY A PLAN DEVELOPMENT SO AS WE MENTIONED NOT ONLY IS IT GETTING MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION FOR THE AREA TO THE SOUTH BUT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS TRACT OF LAND SO THAT ALLOWS IT GOING FROM 18 UNITS PER ACRE UP TO 44 WITH 406 UNITS AND THAT IS TYPICAL OF WHAT WE APPROVE WITH OTHER PLAN
DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE CITY >> MULTIFAMILY MF 18 IS REALLY JUST SORT OF THE TOP LEVEL DESIGNATION IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT'S THE MAXIMUM IT JUST MEANS IT IS THE TOP LEVEL WE
HAVE WITHIN ZONING? >> CORRECT.
>> YOU MENTIONED OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE SAME SORT OF DENSITY. COULD YOU DISCUSS OTHERS WITH THE SAME
SIMILAR TYPE OF DENSITY? >> YES, JUST FURTHER TO THE EAST THERE'S A COUPLE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME TO MIND ALONG THE PARKWAY. SLOANE STREET LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HEBRON PARKWAY AND MIDWAY ROAD. THAT PARTICULAR SITE AGAIN CALLED SLOANE STREET HAS 570 UNITS ON APPROXIMATELY 27 ACRES AND THAT COMES OUT 20 1/2 PER ACRE AND THAT IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. ACROSS THE STREET RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED IS WEILER SQUARE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MIDWAY AND HEBRON PARKWAY WITH 380 UNITS IT IS 38.74 UNITS PER ACRE IRONICALLY THAT IS PART OF PD 148, AS WELL. ANOTHER ONE, MORE RECENTLY COMMISSION AND COUNCIL APPROVED, IT HAS BEEN A COUPLE YEARS, THE IBP 190 LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MIDWAY ROAD AND THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE , THAT WAS OVER 55 ACRES AND WHILE IT DOES ALLOW 786 MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON THAT TRACT ANOTHER ONE WORTH NOTING AND BY THE WAY THESE ARE RAPID TYPE DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SLOANE STREET BUT IN COMMON THEY HAVE INTEGRATED PARKING GARAGES AND ALL OF THEM HAVE SOME KIND OF RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL ELEMENT THAT COMES WITH THAT SOME OTHER ONES IS DIAMOND FLATS A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITY. TO THE WEST IN A MORE SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT, ALONG A CORRIDOR OF 121 AND CARROLLTON PARKWAY APPROVED AND ALMOST READY TO GO WITH 350 UNITS ON 6.82 ACRES, 51.3 UNITS TO THE ACRE AND THEN ANOTHER ONE TO MENTION IS JUST CATTY CORNER FROM THIS SITE LIKE I MENTIONED IS RETIREMENT COMMUNITY OF ATLAS POINT ONLY ON 5.16 ACRES APPROVED WITH THE PD 38.76 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AGAIN ALL OF THESE ARE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS SO THE TOOL WE USE TO ALLOW THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ON THESE
PROPERTIES. >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME WITHIN OUR CITY DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER INTERSECTIONS WITH A SIMILAR DENSITY MAKEUP? FOR INSTANCE AT THIS INTERSECTION BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED WITH ATLAS 38.76 AND THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED AT 45 DO WE HAVE OTHER SIMILAR INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE ORGANIZED SIMILARLY?
>> I THINK THOSE ARE PRIMARY AND I MENTION THE ONE AT MIDWAY THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT BY MERELY.
>> FOR THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS ?
>> OUTSIDE THE TRANSIT CENTER. >> UNDERSTAND, YES THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. FOR ANY OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE SIMILAR THINGS WHICH HE DOES NOT SOUND LIKE WE HAVE VERY MANY, WHAT SORT OF LEVEL OF SERVICE AND VALUES DO WE HAVE FOR THOSE INTERSECTIONS ARE YOU AWARE?
>> SPECIFICALLY WHICH INTERSECTIONS?
>> SO YOU MENTIONED MIDWAY AND GEORGE BUSH WAS ONE. MIDWAY AND
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HEBRON. SORRY MIDWAY AND HEBRON. >> IN GENERAL I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS INTERSECTION BY INTERSECTION BASIS, BUT MIDWAY AND HEBRON IS PLANO , BUT IT WILL BE HEAVY HEAVY TRAFFIC. THE TWO WORST INTERSECTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN CARROLLTON PRESENTLY ARE JOSIE AND TRINITY MILLS AND OLD DENTON AND TRINITY MILLS AND COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER WE AWARDED A CONTRACT TO STUDY THOSE INTERSECTIONS. THOSE WILL LIKELY BE LEVEL OF SERVICE F. I DO THE TRAFFIC WILL QUEUE UP COME YOU GET RED AND YOU DON'T MAKE IT THROUGH YOU MIGHT NOT MAKE IT TO THE NEXT CYCLE SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ARE STARTING THOSE INTERSECTIONS LIKE MARSH AND HEBRON WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF TRAVEL , THAT BEING SAID MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WE ALWAYS GO TO HIGH-VOLUME INTERSECTIONS AND STUDY THOSE ON A PERIODIC BASIS AND IN THE PAST WE HAVE LOOKED AT HEBRON AND JOSIE AND OLD DENTON WE STUDIED THOSE AND MADE IMPROVEMENTS SO THIS COULD BE THE SAME ALTHOUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT HAVE A HUGE INCREMENT AS TRAFFIC GROWS OVER TIME WE SURVEY IT AND MONITOR IT. IF IT REACHES A HIGHER LEVEL WHERE IT'S ONE OF THE MOST CONGESTED INTERJECTIONS IN THE CITY WE STUDY AND LOOK FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE.
>> OKAY THANK YOU MR. HAMMONDS.
>> ONE MORE THING TO BRING UP MY APOLOGIES. THE ONE PROJECT I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IS NOTABLE TRINITY MILLS IS OLD DENTON NEAR TRINITY MILLS ON RAEFORD ROAD IT IS NOT IN THE TRANSIT CENTER. IT HAS 270 UNITS AND BASICALLY 34.84 UNITS TO THE
ACRE ON 11 3/4 ACRE LAND. >> THAT'S NORTH OF ONE OF THE
WORST INTERSECTIONS OLD DENTON. >> AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW THIS IS GREENS MILLS THERE IS NO TRAFFIC BUT AS YOU THING ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSES THIS IS SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND SOMETHING IS ZONED THERE AND WHAT IS THERE NOW PER NORMAL STANDARDS WILL DRIVE INCREMENT TRAFFIC FROM WHAT THIS
PROPOSAL IS? >> CORRECT. THAT IS ZONED HEAVY COMMERCIAL SO LAUREN AND I GOT TOGETHER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND LOOKED AT WHAT YOU COULD BUILD AND YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GENERATE TWICE AS MUCH TRAFFIC ON THAT SITE UNDER HEAVY
COMMERCIAL ZONING. >> THAT IS A BIT HYPOTHETICAL.
BUT I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT WITH THE INTERSECTION THAT IS D IN THE EVENING, C IN THE AFTERNOON BUT I D IN THE EVENING OR SOME OF THE OTHERS WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH, IT'S NOT PART OF THE AGENDA BUT HELP US UNDERSTAND AS WE THINK ABOUT TRAFFIC BECAUSE TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC IMPACT IS ON THE AGENDA WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OR THE CONSIDERATIONS OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MAY LOOK FOR IF THEY ARE MERITED MEANING THERE STUDIED. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO AN INTERSECTION LIKE THIS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED DOWN THE ROAD?
>> ABSOLUTELY, THE FIRST THING DONE IS A HEAVY NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN TRAFFIC. WHENEVER WE REBUILT THIS INTERSECTION PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO . WE ADDED A RIGHT TURN BAY SO IT HAS A RIGHT TURN BAY. IT WAS ADDED BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME THAT'S THERE AND I THINK THE VOLUME IS A LITTLE HIGHER TODAY WE WOULD LOOK TO LENGTHEN THAT BECAUSE I HAVE NOTICED THE RIGHT TURN VOLUME IS HIGH. IT DOES SPILL OUT OF THE BAY SO IMPROVEMENTS WOULD START WITH THINGS LIKE LIGHTS LOOK AT THE RIGHT TURN
LANE. >> THAT'S THE ONE AT THE INTERSECTION. THIS DRAWING DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT TURN BAY ON
EITHER SOUTH ENTRIES RIGHT? >> NOT AT THE ENTRANCE BUT MARSH AND HEBRON YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT.
>> PLEASE CONTINUE ON. >> ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT MIRRORS THE LEFT TURN BAY ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE RIGHT.
>> SO THE TURN BAY. >> IF I WAS GOING OUT THERE THAT'S THE FIRST THING I WOULD LOOK AT. MARSH ON THE THOROUGHFARE IS SIX LANES ARTERIAL RIGHT NOW WITH FOUR LANES BUILT. LOOKING AT THE VOLUMES THE ADT VOLUMES ON MARCH
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LOOK LIKE THEY ARE IN 18,000 PER DAY AS A COMPARISON, HEBRON IS LOW 30S, 32 OR 35,000 WITH MAYBE 12, FRANKFORD MAY BE 20, THIS IS 18 RANGE SO IT IS SERVED BY FOUR PER DAY AND THE FUTURE AS TRAFFIC GOES UP WE HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AVAILABLE ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN SO WE COULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL LANE .>> FOR THE THOROUGHFARE? >> FOR THE THOROUGHFARE.
>> WHAT ABOUT TURN LANES? >> WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE LEFT AT MARSH AND HEBRON , NOT HIGH COMPARED TO THE RIGHT TURNS BUT YOU COULD LOOK TO LENGTHEN THOSE AS WHAT COULD PROBABLY HAPPEN TODAY. MAYBE IN THE FUTURE YOU MIGHT HAVE DUAL LEFT ALTHOUGH THE VOLUMES WOULD HAVE TO GO UP A LOT. SAME THING ON HEBRON THERE IS HIGH LEFT TURN VOLUMES. LOOK TO MAKE A BROOM IS TO THE
LEFT. SO THAT'S AN IDEA. >> THAT IS FAIR, NOT MERITED FOR TRAFFIC STUDIES TODAY CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE MERIT PROCESS FOR A SECOND? WE LOOK AT THESE PERIODICALLY HOW ARE THE MERITS DEFINED POTENTIALLY THIS DEVELOPMENT MIGHT LEAD TO A
MERIT THRESHOLD BEING REACHED? >> BASICALLY WE LOOK AT PRIMARILY VOLUMES AND SAFETY SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ACCIDENTS THIS HAS A MODERATELY HIGH ACCIDENT EXPERIENCE. POLICE PULLED 10 IN THE LAST YEAR AS AN EXAMPLE THE HIGH ACCIDENT LOCATION WAS OLD DENTON AND TRINITY MILLS WHICH WAS 35 SO 3 1/2 TONS MORE. AS ACCIDENTS GO UP WE LOOK AT THAT, WE START LOOKING AT THE VOLUMES SO IF I HAVE 18,000 VEHICLES PER DAY USING MARSH AND THAT GOES TO 23 OR 24 THEN YOU KNOW WE WOULD LOOK AT THE MOVEMENTS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE GREATEST IMPACT, THE MOST COST EFFICIENT
WAY TO ADDRESS THE VOLUME. >> ONE LAST POINT THEIR THOROUGHFARES EAST AND WEST OR NORTH AND SOUTH AGAIN THIS AREA IS WHERE MANY THE PARTIES COME TOGETHER. SO THE COORDINATION WHATEVER WE MIGHT DO FROM A THOROUGHFARE PERSPECTIVE WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH PLANO EAST AND WEST AND DALLAS NORTH AND
SOUTH EVENTUALLY? >> NORTH AND SOUTH WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO I THINK WE HAVE A LONG STRETCH DALLAS IS DOWN.
>> I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. >> WE HAVE ONE MILE TO GET TO DALLAS AND PLANO IS CLOSE TO ONE MILE TO THE NORTH. SO, ON MARCH WE HAVE GOOD LENGTH WE HAVE PRETTY HEALTHY FREEDOM TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. EAST AND WEST , TO THE WEST CARROLLTON AND THE TOWN OF HEBRON WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT A PROBLEM. PLANO IT'S BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL AND MIDWAY. SO I THINK WE HAVE ROOM ON ALL LEGS OF THE INTERSECTION I AM NOT
CONCERNED ABOUT. >> WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AS WELL GO BACK COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER YOU HAVE THE FLOOR I
INTERRUPTED YOU. >> THANK YOU, YOU ASKED TWO OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD. I THINK FOR NOW I WILL TURN OVER MY OPPORTUNITY BUT I DO WANT TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO COME BACK
AND ASK MORE QUESTIONS. >> I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE PLENTY
OF OPPORTUNITIES. COUNCILMEMBER. >> MR. HAMMOND I TOOK THE LIBERTY TO DRIVE THERE ON MARSH AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTY. ONE THING I DID NOTICE OF COURSE I KNEW IT WOULD BE A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT 5:00 OR 5:30.
I THINK I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER. ON MARSH YOU HAVE TWO RIGHT TURN INTO CORRECT?
>> NORTHBOUND MARSH ONE RIGHT TURN LANE WITH TWO THROUGH WAYS
AND ONE LEFT TURN LANE. >> AND THEN OF COURSE CATTY CORNER THAT'S THE APARTMENT COMPLEX?
>> THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING DEVELOPMENT.
>> REGARDING THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTED , THIS AS FAR AS THE
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LEVEL OF TRAFFIC I GUESS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF INCREASE ISMODERATE? >> SO, I WILL JUST TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE MODELING SAYS, LEVEL OF SERVICE STAYS THE SAME SONY SALABLE SERVICE D WHICH IS WORST IN THE AFTERNOON AND IT CALCULATES SECONDS OF DELAY PER VEHICLE TO THE INTERSECTION SO YOU HAVE SEVERAL THOUSAND DURING THE HOUR GOING TO SEVERAL THOUSAND VEHICLES EXPERIENCING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DELAY SO LEVEL SERVICE D THRESHOLD FROM 35 SECONDS PER VEHICLE TO 55 SECONDS THE EXISTING WAS HIGH 30S 38 SECONDS PER VEHICLE WITH DEVELOPMENT GOES UP 42 OR 43 , FOUR OR FIVE SECONDS OF ADDITIONAL DELAY PER VEHICLE. PER VEHICLE NOT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TIME THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLES, SO IT IS.
>> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I AM STRUGGLING WITH TO FIGURE OUT HOW INTENSE THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.
>> I WOULD SAY IF YOU DRIVE AFTER DEVELOPMENT IT WOULD BE A SLIGHT INCREASE. YOU WOULD NOTICE A LITTLE BIT, NOT DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT. IF YOU DO NOT LIVE THERE YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T NOTICE. YOUR I DON'T LIVE THERE IF WE DROVE.
>> IT'S ALREADY BUSY FOR ME. >> YES VERY BUSY AND TO GIVE YOU GUYS A FEEL FOR IT HEBRON IS ONE OF THE BUSY STREETS IN THE
ENTIRE CITY. >> THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL THE
QUESTIONS I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, TWO MORE QUESTIONS. FIRST ONE IS COMING OFF COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING'S COMMENT. THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT YOU HAVE DONE EQUATING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES COMING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ONTO MARSH LANE YOU ARE MEASURING THAT AS A NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND THAT NUMBER IS BASED ON THE 406 UNITS PROPOSED FOR THE AREA AS WELL AS THE RETAIL OUTLETS THAT ARE ALSO SCHEDULED. ALL THE PARKING AVAILABLE WITH THE EXTERNAL AS WELL AS THE PARKING ZONE SO FOR SO MANY UNITS THERE ARE SO MANY CARS, FOR SO MANY BUSINESSES SO MANY CARS AND YOU COME UP WITH THAT ESTIMATE OF WHAT TRAFFIC IS
BEING ADDED CORRECT? >> BASED ON THE LAND USE SO THE PARKING IS NOT HOW IT IS DETERMINED , BUT IT IS BASED ON 406 MULTIFAMILY UNITS WITH RETAIL AND THE RESTAURANT.
>> TRAFFIC TO THE RETAIL. >> TRAFFIC TO THE FAST FOOD
RESTAURANTS. >> ALL OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC CLASSIFICATION CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU, MY LAST QUESTION IS THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP AND YOU ENTERED AND I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT REGARDING POSSIBILITIES DOWN THE ROAD OR PERHAPS DURING DEVELOPMENT I HEARD THAT WHEN YOU SAID FOR EXAMPLE EXTENDING THE RIGHT TURN BAY NORTHBOUND ON MARSH TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT TRAFFIC ON THE RIGHT TURN BECAUSE AGAIN THESE RIGHT TURN ALWAYS COMING OUT OF THE PROPERTY ARE GOING TO FEED
DIRECTLY INTO THAT. >> TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION LOOKING AT POTENTIAL THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION. THAT IS WHERE WE
WOULD START AND GO FROM THERE. >> YOU MENTIONED THE MIDDLE LANE AND BEING ABLE TO ADD A LIGHT IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL. A TRAFFIC
LIGHT. FOR MARSH RIDGE. >> YEAH, NO NO, SO OFF-SITE AND WE LOOK NOT JUST RIGHT AT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SO I DON'T GET TOO FAR DOWN IN THE WEEDS BUT WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, ANYTHING WE ASK HAS TO BE REASONABLE AND PROPORTIONAL TO WHAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING. I CAN'T JUST GO DOWN THE ROAD HALF A MILE AND DO SOMETHING BUT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA THAT IS RELATIVELY NEARBY AND THINGS WE HAVE ON OUR RADAR AND FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND THE INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTH AT MARSH AND MARSH RIDGE RANKING NUMBER THREE ON THE SIGNAL PRIORITY LIST. SOMETHING WE HAVE
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CONSIDERED FOR YEARS, THOSE FAMILIAR WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT MANY MANY YEARS. OVER THE YEARS THE PRIMARY MOVEMENTS HAVE BEEN NORTHBOUND LEFT AND SOUTHBOUND RIGHT, THEY DID NOT CONFLICT.ACCIDENTS WERE LOW AND A VERY LOW WITH ONE ACCIDENT REPORTED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS SO IT HAS KIND OF NOT RAISED TO THE TOP OF THE LIST, BUT I CAN FORESEE WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT BE THE THING THAT PULLS THIS UP TO WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THAT'S WE SHOULD BUILD IT.
>> APPRECIATE THAT REALIZATION AND EXPLANATION. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PALACIOS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, THINKING ABOUT COMMENTS ON TRAFFIC IMPACTING SAFETY BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VERIFICATION ON THE RIGHT IN AND OUTS. THE ENTRANCES AROUND THIS PROPERTY. HOW SHOULD I INTERPRET THAT? WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE? INCREASING OR DECREASING TRAFFIC DOESN'T ENHANCE OR WEAKEN SAFETY ?
>> IT WILL ENHANCE SAFETY. THOSE DRIVEWAYS DO NOT HAVE A TREMENDOUS VOLUME AT THE LITTLE DRIVEWAYS WITH MORE TRAFFIC ON HEBRON SO THE ONES ON MARSH ARE RIGHT IN AND OUT. IT WILL MAKE IT SAFER. IT WILL ALSO DECREASE ANY ACCIDENTS WE HAVE THEY WILL BE LESS SEVERE SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CROSS THROUGH THE TRAFFIC GOING IN THIS CASE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 40 BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CROSS TRAFFIC AT 40 THAT'S A MORE DANGEROUS SITUATION THAN TAKING THE RIGHT INTO TRAFFIC.
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE.
>> MY QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH YOU DISCUSSING THAT APPROPRIATELY SIZED MARSH LANE FUTURE POSSIBLE WIDENING MAY BE ADDING TURN LANE DOUBLE LEFTS OR SOMETHING. IS THERE POSSIBLY ENOUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY TO DO DOUBLE LEFT WESTBOUND?
>> SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT, HEBRON IS TIGHTER RIGHT-OF-WAY . I WON'T SAY NO BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
ANSWER IS. >> HOPING AND PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE UNDERSTAND THE LEFT TURN POCKET BACKS UP TO THE THROUGH
LANE. >> WE WILL LOOK AT THE ADJUSTMENT AND TIMING, BUT IF IT COMES DOWN TO IT AND WE HAVE TO GO THAT WAY THEN WE WILL BRING IN THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND DO THE BRAINSTORMING. FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET EXTRA TURN LANES AND UTILIZE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THE BEST WE CAN.
>> JUST WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU.
>> I CANNOT ANSWER DEFINITIVELY, BUT GENERALLY WHEN WE HAD PROBLEMS LIKE THAT THERE IS A WAY NARROW LANES, MOVE LANES,
FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. >> LET'S ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THEIR STATEMENT AND PRESENTATION. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CARDS TO HEAR FROM SO LET'S ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION. ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS AS THEY GO AND WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
CIRCLE BACK. >> THANK YOU, LUCY BURNS, APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE AUDIENCE APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE. MY ASPIRATION IS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC SO THAT'S A WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING TIME ON SINCE PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVAL IS DIGGING INTO THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. WITH THAT --
>> PERFECT. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE OUTLINED AND REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THE TRUCK 70 TO THE TOLL ROAD AND PROXIMITY TO GEORGE BUSH AND THE MEANS WITH WHICH OUR RESIDENTS WILL LIKELY GET TO THE THOROUGHFARES IF THOSE ARE THE THOROUGHFARES THEY TAKE TO WORK EVERY MORNING. IT IS CLEAR WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND IT WILL BE EASIER WHEN I ZOOM IN, AND A SECOND THAT INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, THE LEAST TRAFFICKED OF THE THREE STREETS IS THE FASTEST WAY OF GETTING TO GEORGE BUSH.
IT IS ALSO A QUICK WAY TO GET TO THE TOLL ROAD AND A FREE ENTRANCE. SO I KNOW HEBRON IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS IT SHOULD BE AND WILL HAVE PEOPLE HEADED EAST TOWARD THE TOLL ROAD
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BUT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS WILL BE FOCUSED ON GETTING TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. I WOULD PRESUME IN THE MORNINGS AND EVENINGS GOING TO AND FROM WORK. AGAIN HERE IS A ZOOMED IN FOR YOU WITH ALL THE STREETS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER.>> IT'S NOT GOING TO SHOW UP. >> SO, ANYWAY SUFFICE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT ON MIDWAY ROAD YOU CAN SEE ON BOTH SIDES THOSE ARE TWO PROJECTS REFERENCED EARLIER THAT WE WORKED ON PREVIOUSLY. THIS IS TO SHOW THE INGRESS AS EVERYONE HAS DISCUSSED, THE WAY TO GET TO THE PROPERTY IS BY MOVING NORTH AND TAKING THE RIGHT TURN IN ON HEBRON YOU TAKE THE RIGHT TURN IN HEADED EAST, INTERNATIONAL , THE SAME GOING SOUTH AND THE ONLY LOCATION WHERE YOU TURN IN NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND IS OFF THE SOUTHERN TURN LANE OFF OF INTERNATIONAL. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN THERE ARE TWO RAPS BUILDINGS HERE, THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE HAS 194 UNITS. 45 , 48% OF THE TOTAL UNIT COUNT FOR THE PROJECT AND THE PARKING GARAGE FOR THOSE UNITS IS ON THE SOUTHERN ENTRY OFF OF INTERNATIONAL SO YOU CAN SEE THE TURN LANE INTO THE GARAGE THAT IS ONLY WAY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY FOR THESE PEOPLE , TO USE INTERNATIONAL ENTRANCE AND EXIT. I KNOW WE ARE FOCUSING SO MUCH ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ADDED AND WHAT'S THE OVERALL TRAFFIC IMPACT TO THE WHOLE PROPERTY BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE HALF OF THE RESIDENTS ARE COMING AND GOING OFF OF INTERNATIONAL JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THE GARAGE IS LOCATED SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. THIS VISUAL IS SHOWING THE EGRESS SO FOCUS ON THE VISUAL ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE RESIDENTIAL REZONING WE ARE PROPOSING AND YOU CAN SEE LIKE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YOU WHILE NO YOUR EXITING GOING NORTH ON MARSH , EAST ON HEBRON AND SOUTH ON INTERNATIONAL. THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS JUST TO DEMONSTRATE BY RIGHT WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE STUCK WITH EXISTING ZONING. WE WOULD DO BUILDINGS SIMILAR TO THE BUILDINGS WE HAVE RECENTLY DONE DOWN THE STREET ON PLANO PARKWAY. IT WILL CALL FOR A GARAGE CONSERVATIVELY OF 1600 PARKING SPACES SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 1600 SPACES AND 1600 PEOPLE VERSUS 695 SPACES. WHICH IS, YOU KNOW 1.7 UNITS OR 1.7 SPACES PER UNIT. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR UNITS ARE ONE-BEDROOMS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT VISUAL FOR CONTEXT. THIS IS JUST TO DEMONSTRATE OUR LANDSCAPING PLAN, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS, LANDSCAPING ADDS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VALUE FOR THE PROPERTY A NEIGHBORHOOD AT LARGE AND I WANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT. THE WATER FEATURE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT , THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INTEGRATED MASTER PLAN FOR YOUR RESIDENCE WALKING TO THE RETAIL AND IT FEELING IT WAS A DELIBERATE COMMUNITY ALL DONE AT ONE TIME. THE RETAIL WE HAVE DONE AS YOU KNOW A BUNCH OF RETAIL DOWN THE STREET AND IN THE PROJECT WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO ELEVATE THE LEVEL AND SKILL FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL PERSPECTIVE FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING SO USING TRADITIONAL BRICK WE HAD USED IN THE PAST AND WE ARE ADDING NEW MATERIALS, TERRA-COTTA TILES, CERAMIC TILES SO THESE ARE VISUALS YOU HAVE SEEN TONIGHT AND ON THE BACK END SIDE AS WAS MENTIONED THE INTENT IS FOR THESE TO BE PATIOS PEOPLE CAN SIT ON OVER THE WATER AND ENJOY A MEAL WITH FRIENDS FAMILY KIDS ET CETERA SO YOU WILL HAVE SEEN THESE, SO I WILL SPARE YOU THE TIME. THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD IS ON MARSH WE HAVE TRIED TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT MAKING SURE THESE LOOK AND FEEL THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENCIES AS YOU GO DOWN THE STREET WE WANT IT TO FEEL IT IS A TOWNHOME TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT HAS BEEN THE INTENT. DELIGHTED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND I DO HAVE A COPY OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE IF ANYONE HAS A HARD COPY I HAVE THEM
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TONIGHT AND I HAVE SCOTT TRUST ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.>> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? TRAFFIC STUDY WITH ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE HER DISCUSSIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ON QUESTIONS TO TRAFFIC ENGINEER ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER WITHOUT QUESTION WE WILL INVITE YOU TO DO SO.
>> MY FIRM IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT GROUP ADDRESS 165 SABAL PALM DRIVE IN LONGWOOD. I PREPARED THE TRAFFIC STUDY REVIEWED BY STAFF AND MR. HAMMONS DID SUCH A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING IT ONE OF MY DIFFICULTIES IS TAKING HIGHLY TECHNICAL AND ANALYTICAL ITEMS AND PRESENTING TO NON-TECHNICAL PEOPLE SO HE DID A GREAT JOB.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID DO BEFORE COMING UP HERE I PREPARED SOME PRINTED HANDOUTS THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN IT TO THE COUNCIL I ALWAYS FIND IT IS BETTER TO SHOW PEOPLE RATHER THAN TO TELL PEOPLE . IF WE COULD HAVE THE NUMBER OF COPIES.
>> THE OFFICER WILL TAKE AND YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE.
>> I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME I HAVE ATTENDED DOZENS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ACROSS THE REGION, INEVITABLY IT'S THE SAME ISSUES WITH TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND A SAFETY ISSUE. A LOT OF RESPECT TO ALL THE CITIZENS WHO CAME OUT HERE TONIGHT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR VOICES AND I DON'T WANT TO SEEM HARSH, BUT FEELINGS AREN'T NUMBERS AND I LIVE IN A WORLD OF NUMBERS. IT IS IMPARTIAL AND IMPERSONAL BUT THAT'S MY JOB AND I OWE IT TO MYSELF TO GIVE YOU SIZE -- GUYS THE DECISION-MAKERS THE BEST INFORMATION I HAVE. ITEM 1 IS HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS TOO MUCH? 16,000 CARS PER DAY ON MARSH ROAD ACCORDING TO THE TXDOT WEBSITE. SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG NUMBER BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN SO IN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING WORLD WHERE THE CONCEPT CALLED CAPACITY AND REALLY THAT IS THE SIMPLEST WAY I CAN CONVEY WHERE A ROAD REACHES CAPACITY IS WHEN YOU HAVE PROBLEMS. HERE ARE SOME NUMBERS . THIS TABLE I HAVE COPIED AND PASTED ON THE DOCUMENT SHOWS YOU DIFFERENT ROADWAYS, ARTERIALS VERSUS COLLECTORS OR LOCALS, WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND WHAT TYPE OF ROADWAY. FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE MARSH ROAD A MINOR ARTERIAL WITH TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION AND THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, NUMBER 825 . TWO LANES NORTHBOUND, TWO SOUTHBOUND, DOUBLE THAT, SO THE CAPACITY OF MARSH ROAD IS 1650 VEHICLES PER HOUR. NOW FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WE WENT OUT AND TOOK TRAFFIC COUNTS AND I THINK IT WAS 950 VEHICLES HEADED NORTHBOUND IN THE EVENING RUSH HOUR. NOW, AT 20 OR 30 VEHICLES IN THE EVENING RUSH HOUR FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT AND MAYBE I WAS WRONG MAYBE WE CAN DOUBLE , SO LET'S SAY THERE IS 1000. THAT IS STILL UNDER CAPACITY. ONE THING MR. HAMMONS TRY TO TELL YOU IS MARSH ROAD HAS CAPACITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. IT REALLY DOES. IS THE IMPACT? SURE.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE TRAFFIC THERE IS IMPACTS. IS IT SIGNIFICANT? IT ISN'T BECAUSE MARSH ROAD HAS CAPACITY TO HANDLE THE NEW TRAFFIC. AND THE SECOND ITEM IS REALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE IT IS ONE THING FOR A ROADWAY TO BE AT CAPACITY OR TO HAVE LEVEL OF SERVICE F AND THOSE ARE ABSTRACT TERMS, BUT WHAT PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT IS SAFETY. SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS I HAVE DONE IN MY CAREER AS I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO DO A LOT OF ACCIDENT REDUCTION STUDIES . SO, TXDOT HAS A GREAT WEBSITE. A CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM. BACK OF A NAPKIN TYPE THINGS. I TOOK A QUICK LOOK AND COUNTED 97 CRASHES IN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. IS THAT A LOT? IS THAT NOT? IT DEPENDS, IT IS A URBAN AREA SO ONE THING I USE IN
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MY TOOLBOX IS FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAYS AND WE CAME UP WITH A CRASH RATE SO THAT ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. SO IT TAKES THE NUMBER OF CRASHES AT A LOCATION AND PUTS IT INTO A PER MILLION CARS SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE CAN SEE ONE .08 CRASHES PER MILLION CARS AT THE INTERSECTION. IS THAT HIGH OR IS THAT LOW? IT'S PROBABLY ON THE HIGH SIDE, AGAIN IT IS A VERY BUSY ROADWAY. ONE THING THE STATE OF NEVADA DOES AND I'VE DONE A NUMBER OUT THERE. WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT THEY MAKE YOU LOOK AT THE CRASH RATE OF AN INTERSECTION AND THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE NEW CARS YOU ARE ADDING AND DETERMINE HOW MANY MORE CRASHES YOU CAN EXPECT AT A LOCATION , SO USING THAT FORMULA , SO WE CAN SEE 19.4 CRASHES PER YEAR AT HEBRON AND MARSH, AFTER DEVELOPMENT 19.9 THAT IS ONE HALF OF A CRASH PER YEAR. NOT SUPER SIGNIFICANT. THEN AGAIN ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD I AM THINKING ARE THE NUMBERS NOT TELLING THE WHOLE STORY SO THIS EVENING I WENT OUT BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX AND WENT TO THE BEND HILL PARKING LOT AND I WATCHED TRAFFIC AM I DROVE UP AND DOWN AND I WENT DOWN KELLY LANE BACK AND FORTH I TURNED LEFT ONTO MARSH WHAT CAN I TELL YOU? IT IS A ARTERIAL IN DALLAS-FORT WORTH IT IS BUSY, IT IS NOT UNUSUAL IN ANY WAY. AND MY CLOSING STATEMENT THAT I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH AND OF COURSE IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU HAVE HAD REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS AND I LOVE TALKING TRAFFIC SO I CAN BE AVAILABLE AFTERWARDS. THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM ASKED ME TO COME UP WITH NUMBERS IF WE WERE TO PUT UP 400,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AND I THINK YOU SAW THAT ON THE SLIDE UP THERE, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WOULD NOT GENERATE VERSUS 400 APARTMENT UNITS. I HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THE SHEET, YOU WOULD SEE 500 NEW TRIPS IN THE MORNING VERSUS 160 THAT WERE GENERATED BY APARTMENTS AND SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE EVENING SO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WANTED ME TO POINT OUT IF WE WERE NOT HERE AND DID NOT HAVE TO DO REZONING IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING, TRAFFIC WOULD ACTUALLY BE QUITE WORSE SO WITH THAT I BELIEVE YOU AND AGAIN IAM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> APPRECIATE THAT. CAN WE PUT THE MAP BACK UP THAT SHOWS THE SIDE-BY-SIDE OFFICE VERSUS PRESIDENTIAL. YES, THIS ONE. AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS YOU MADE THE COMMENT BASED ON WHERE THE GARAGE IS AT AS WE LOOK AT TWO CLUSTER WRAPAROUND APARTMENTS , APARTMENT COMPLEXES. YOU ARE SAYING HALF OF THIS ONE TO THE EAST IS LIKELY GOING TO BE INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY THAT'S THE HYPOTHESIS. GENERALLY THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS FINDING ON THIS WHERE THE ARROW IS WHERE YOUR TURNING LEFT OR RIGHT , JUST SOUTH OF THIS IS THE
CHURCH? >> JUST SOUTH OF THIS IS THE
FURNITURE GROUP. >> RIGHT. IS THAT SHARED MUTUAL ACCESS? THE CURVATURE SOMEBODY JUST --
>> IT'S GOING TO BE MUTUAL ACCESS. CONCEIVABLY RESIDENCE COULD COME FURTHER SOUTH THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT. TO ALSO ENTER THE EGRESS. SO IT IS NOT ISOLATED BEYOND THAT. OKAY. I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER
CARPENTER. >> FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED YOU THIS BUT CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR WHAT YOU DO?
>> GRADUATED IN 1994, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 31 YEARS, DON'T LET MY USEFUL VISIBILITY CONFUSE. I HAVE BEEN A BUSINESS MYSELF SINCE 2012. I HAVE DONE HUNDREDS IF NOT 1000 TRAFFIC STUDIES ACROSS TEXAS, ALL ACROSS THE NATION. AND I HAVE ATTENDED
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DOZENS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS JUST LIKE THIS.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I WANT TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE SEVERAL CARDS TO SPEAK, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL FOLLOWING. FIRST SPEAKER IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER IS JOEL BAILEY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM I BELIEVE. ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING. THERE IS A TIMER ON THE DAIS SO YOU
CAN MONITOR YOUR OWN TIME. >> THINK YOU. 228 HIGH POINT DRIVE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSAL, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER JUST SAID HE APPRECIATES COMMUNITY MEMBERS APPEAR HERE BUT HE OPERATES IN NUMBERS NOT FEELINGS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR, WE ARE NOT HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT FEELINGS AND I WILL SHOW YOU THAT BY TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS, FIRST SEPTEMBER 18 THE ONE DAY THEY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY THEY DID NOT BOTHER TO DO ONE WEDNESDAY , THEY DID NOT BOTHER TO DO ONE ON SUNDAY EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW AND ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS A CHURCH NEARBY THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ATTENDANCE. ANOTHER NUMBER I WILL BRING UP IS 406, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. YET, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ADDING 406 UNITS , THEY WANT US TO BELIEVE THE LEVEL THE SERVICE WILL NOT CHANGE. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT OTHER THAN IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE YOU WILL ADD 406 UNITS AND THE TRAFFIC SERVICE IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME. ANOTHER NUMBER I WILL BRING UP IS 18.
MFA TEAM, IF THIS COUNCIL FOLLOWS THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE MFA TINA ALLOWS 18 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER I THINK YOU IMPLIED IT WAS NOT MAXIMUM , BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT IT SAYS MAXIMUM DENSITY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOCUMENT SO I DO THINK IT IS A MAXIMUM. THERE IS A NEW BILL THAT SAID YOU CANNOT RESTRICT IT TO LESS THAN 36. GOT IT, WE ARE AT 44 NOT DIRTY SIX. WE ARE NOT AT 18 SO YOU HAVE TO IGNORE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND LESS NUMBER 211.04 LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE , THAT WILL BE VIOLATED IF THIS IS
ZONING ORDINANCE IS PASSED. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS , YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> SEAN CALENDAR AND I LIVE IN OAK CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND WE CERTAINLY OPPOSE THIS, THE PLAN CALLS FOR 400 UNITS, 44 UNITS PER ACRE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MFA TEAM STANDARD WELL ABOVE THE 36 ACRES PER UNIT UNDER SB 840 THAT LEVEL MAKE SENSE IN A TRANSIENT ORIENTED DISTRICT BUT NOT HERE. IT IS NOTEWORTHY THE BILLINGSLY PROPERTY LIKE THE HUDSON AND THOUSAND OAKS AND THE COLONY ARE THREE STORIES NOT FOUR SO WHY SHOULD CARROLLTON BURY A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN SURROUNDING CITIES FOR A SIMILAR PRODUCT. ALSO THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WILL STAY THE SAME BUT WE BELIEVE IN 2027 WILL CERTAINLY GO UP, IT IS UNREALISTIC BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY ALREADY HAS SIGNIFICANT VACANT OFFICE SPACE, 280,000 SQUARE FEET AND A MAJOR PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON MIDWAY WITH MORE THAN 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND 800 APARTMENTS. AS THE BUILDINGS FILL, TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE BEYOND THE STUDY, FOR OAK CREEK RESIDENTS, INCREASED CONGESTION ON MARSHALING AFFECTS THE ABILITY TO SAFELY ENTER AND EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OVERTIME WILL IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES, QUALITY-OF-LIFE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES. WE HEARD EASILY OWNS AND MANAGES PROPERTIES LONG-TERM , THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. MIDWAY ON MARCH BEHIND LA FITNESS THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY WAS SOLD IN 2023 TO THE DAY COMMUNITIES. SO WE HAVE TO ALSO NOTE BILLINGSLY SAYS THEY BUILT A TRACT OF DEVELOPMENTS AND THAT IS THE CASE BUT ATTRACTIVE DOES NOT MEAN APPROPRIATE. A PROJECT MUST FIT INFRASTRUCTURE, TRAFFIC REALITIES AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY. ALSO FINALLY SCHOOLS. WE HAVE NOT TALKED ANYTHING ABOUT SCHOOLS, IMPACT ON LOCAL SCHOOLS AND THE LOCAL PARK IN THE AREA AND HEAVY USAGE THAT WILL INCREASE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
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>> THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS KENT CHRISTIANSEN IS IN OPPOSITION. MY NEXT CARD IS FROM STEPHEN DIMMITT IN OPPOSITION.
>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL 2213 HIGH POINT DRIVE CARROLLTON, TEXAS. I LIVED AROUND THE AREA MY WHOLE LIFE ESSENTIALLY. I GREW UP IN THE HIGHLANDS I LIVE ONE BLOCK AWAY SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS YOU ARE BASING A LONG-TERM DECISION BASED OFF OF NOT EVEN A DAY, A 10 HOUR STUDY, ONE, ON A THURSDAY WHERE WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER SIGNIFICANT DAYS LIKE WEDNESDAY WITH CHURCH OR SUNDAY. THINK OF IT, I LOOKED AT THE BROKER'S WEBSITE AND IT SAYS THEY TOUTED, THE TRAFFIC SET THE BENEFIT FROM THE TRAFFIC VOLUME FROM ONE OF THE LARGEST CHURCHES IN AMERICA MEMBERSHIP OF 45,000 WEEKLY ATTENDANCE OF 17,000.
WOULD NOT ACCOUNT FOR THAT THE TRAFFIC DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE SUNDAY IT IS 10 HOURS ON A THURSDAY. TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC BEING LIGHT ON INTERNATIONAL , THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS VACANT. I PULLED THE REPORT WITH VACANCIES, 280,000 SQUARE FEET OF VACANT SPACE, THERE IS ONE WHICH ONE THOUSAND THINK TRAFFIC WOULD BE SO MUCH WORSE IF WE WERE DOING OFFICE, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER THAT'S VACANT WITH ANOTHER 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE DOWN THE STREET FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND NONE OF THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. WE NEED A INDEPENDENT THIRD-PARTY CONFERENCE OF ANALYSIS OF TRAFFIC TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE GETTING INTO FOR THE LONG-TERM. I AM LAND USE AND ZONING ATTORNEY I DO THIS QUITE A BIT TO ELABORATE ON THE COMP PLAN SO THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVIDES A CONVEYANCE OF PLANNED THAT ZONING MUST BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONFERENCE A PLAN THAT SAYS THE AREA IS HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND IT SAYS YOU CANNOT EVEN HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO OR ADJACENT TO HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL. THE ZONING REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPANY AND SUPPLANT AND IT IS A RED HERRING ON THE OFFICE. THERE ARE SOPHISTICATED DEVELOPERS NO WAY THEY CAN BUILD A SEVEN-STORY DEVELOPMENT WITH VACANT SPACE NEXT DOOR.
>> YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> I WON'T START UNTIL YOU
START. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HEARING ME OUT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HOMES WHO ARE IN GENERAL IN OPPOSITION OF THE ZONING HERE. ANYBODY HERE FROM NORTHEAST CARROLLTON? THESE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND THEY ARE HERE IN OPPOSITION. NOW, WE HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM TRAFFIC AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES. WHAT I CAME TO SAY -- YOU GUYS ASKED A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS. I'M CHANGING WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. WE ARE MISSING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. IF WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT'S NOT ABOUT US. IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF CARROLLTON.
THE FUTURE OF CARROLLTON, ONE MILE SOUTH. 75287. THAT IS WHAT
MULTIFAMILY CAN DO. >> NOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PLUS. THEY ARE ONLY TAKING FROM YOUR TIME.
>> WE ARE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE. WE ARE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR RETAIL. WE ARE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR BUSINESS PARTNERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
MULTIFAMILY HAS LONG-TERM ISSUES, AND SO THAT IS WHAT IT IS. IF THERE IS A LABOR HOOD -- NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THERE CALLED THE LOUVRE ANTI- ASK WHAT THEY THINK OF THE FAMILY NEXT TO THEM, I THINK YOU KNOW THE ANSWER ALREADY. I ASK YOU TO THINK OF THE FUTURE OF CARROLLTON, YOUR CHILDREN, MY CHILDREN, WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE? DO NOT TURN 75007 INTO 75287. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> MY NEXT SPEAKER -- I HAVE TWO CARDS. ANNETTE HALL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. JAMES HALL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. IN OPPOSITION. MY NEXT CARD IS RICHARD HISLIP.
DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. RICHARD. OKAY.
DEBBIE HUEY IS MY NEXT SPEAKER.
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Y'ALL HAVE TO MINUTES. >> HI. MY NAME IS DEBBIE HUEY.
HE PUT ME ON THE CLOCK. HE KNOWS I LIKE TO TALK. I LOVE YOU ALL.
THANK YOU FOR THIS HARD TASK AND I SERVE ON THE ATTACK. I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE TRAFFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I WAS IN OUR SOLID WASTE COMMITTEE. I LOVE CARROLLTON. I BURIED MY DOCS RIGHT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE PUTTING THIS IS WHERE MY DOCS ARE BURIED. THAT IS HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS AREA. I AM EXTREMELY WORRIED, YES ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. WE KNOW IF WE HAVE A RIGHT TURN AND I WANT TO GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, THAT IS GOING TO BACK THAT NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC UP BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT LEFT LANE NOT TURNING LEFT. THEY ARE GOING TO U-TURN OVER THERE BEFORE THEY GET TO THE COFFEE SHOP. WE RUN INTO THE TRAFFIC. THIS IS BECOMING -- JUST TRAFFIC. RIGHT NOW THOUGH SHE WAS AT 5:42. THAT IS TRAFFIC RIGHT WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THAT IS LIVE.
THAT IS NOT A STUDY. THAT IS REAL. AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR WATER. WE KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT REDOING FIRE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERING ALL OF CARROLLTON. OUR SEWAGE. WE'VE HEARD THAT OUR COMPLEXES ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING ENOUGH TO OUR TAX -- I MEAN OUR TRASH AND WASTE PRODUCTS. WE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON A PART OF THE CITY THAT IS HEAVILY USED. WE HAVE VICTORY. WE HAVE PRESTONWOOD. WE HAVE THE OTHER CHURCH, SOVEREIGN CHURCH. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA, AND WE'RE FORGETTING THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE CRYSTAL WOULD STORE IN -- SCHOOL AND WE HAVE PRINCE OF PEACE AROUND THE CORNER. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON. WE HAVE A GREAT CITY IN THE SOUTH AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE WE ARE CONGESTED IN THE NORTH. AND WE -- I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT WHERE WE ARE NOT JUST PILING IN BECAUSE THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT.
SO I WILL STOP TALKING AND THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU TO MY FRIENDS ON THE COUNCIL.
>> THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS ERIC AND BONNIE KAPLAN. IN OPPOSITION. JUST IN OPPOSITION. OKAY. GIL KIRK DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. GIL, BACK THERE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING? >> MY NAME IS GIL KIRK. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CARROLLTON FOR 40 YEARS. AND I CONCUR WITH WHAT MATT GARRETT HAVE SAID AND WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID. I AM FULLY OPPOSED TO IT. IF THEY WANT TO SUGGEST A SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES OR DUPLEX HOMES WHERE THEY NEVER CAN BE WELL WITHIN THE LIMIT, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT, BUT I AGREE. THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM WOULD BE HORRENDOUS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WOULD BE THE LONG-TERM EFFECT THAT THIS TYPE OF APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD HAVE UPON THE COMMUNITY OF CARROLLTON. WE DON'T WANT IT. I
THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS LOUISE LEE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LUIS? AND WE LIVE DOWN THE ROAD FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE LIVED THERE FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS. I COME BEFORE YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM OPPOSED TO ZONING CHANGE FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, THE TRAFFIC I HAVE BEEN TELLING ABOUT ALL EVENING AND TWO, THE DENSITY. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEBARN AND --. AND THEN TRYING TO BYPASS THE HEBARN HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC BY GOING OFF INTO THE MARSH AND HEBRON TO GO HOME.
IT'S ALWAYS A AM I GOING TO DIE TODAY OR NOT BECAUSE IT IS A SHORT ROAD FROM CHARLES ONTO HEBRON TO MAKE THAT TURN AND I PURPOSELY DO THAT TO AVOID THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC. TEENAGE DRIVERS AND PARENTS ARE RUNNING OFTEN LATE AND THE CHALLENGE OF GETTING TO THAT INTERSECTION CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS. ADDING MORE
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TRAFFIC WILL ONLY WORSEN THE CONDITIONS. ADDITIONALLY, I ALSO SEE THAT THE FAR RIGHT LANE THAT BACKS UP ON HEBRON, TURNING ONTO INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, IT ALWAYS HAS A BIG TRAFFIC LINE WHENEVER I DRIVE THAT ON HEBRON, SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY IS A SAFE SOON AS EVERYONE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. ADDING MORE RESIDENTS WILL ONLY WORSEN THE CONDITIONS. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS DENSITY. 44 UNITS PER ACRE IS EXCESSIVE. IT IS MUCH PALATABLE. IT IS 108 -- IT IS ABOUT 108 APARTMENTS -- 5.5 ACRES. THAT COMES OUT TO BE 34, 33 UNITS PER ACRE. AND A LOT OF THOSE RESIDENTS PROBABLY DON'T DRIVE AS OFTEN AS THESE 406 RESIDENTS WOULD. SO, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT ATLAS, IT IS VERY -- IT IS TALL, BUT IS ALSO KIND OF CLAUSTROPHOBIC BUT TO HAVE MORE OF THAT DOWN THERE AT MARSH AND HEBRON WOULD MAKE IT WORSE. IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD SAY PLEASE DENY THIS CHANGE IN CONSIDER OTHER SOLUTIONS AT THIS TIME. I LIVE IN THIS AREA SO I WILL NOTICE IT.>> THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS PRISCILLA LOU.
>> LONG NIGHT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PRISCILLA LOU. I SENT BEFORE YOU TODAY TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING FOR LAND AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. MY CONCERN IS HOW MUCH OF THE DEVELOPER IS INCREASING THE DENSITY FROM THE STANDARD OF 18 UNITS TO 44, FISHING DENSITY AND HEIGHT LIMITS TO ITS CAPACITY.
THIS ZONING CONFLICTS WITH CARROLLTON'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WILL CONTRADICT THE CITY'S ADOPTED LAND-USE VISION AND AMOUNT TO SPOT ZONING. AS IT UNDERMINES ADOPTED POLICY REGULATIONS. ANYTHING HIGHER IS INCONSISTENT AND HARMFUL.
MULTIFAMILY UNDERMINES THAT VISION. UNTIL TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 211 004 MANDATES AT ZONING DECISIONS ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS LAW AIMS TO REDUCE CONGESTION, PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AND INTEREST PLANNED AND RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPED. SPEAKING OF SAFETY, THE TEXAS REPORT -- AND I CALLED AND SPOKE TO A PERSON THERE. CUSTOMER SERVICE.
THERE'S BEEN, IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 250 ACCIDENTS -- HONEY 25 DATA IS NOT FULLY REPORTED SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. TRAFFIC FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT SPEED DURING MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOURS, COMPOUNDING -- ALREADY EVIDENT AT MARSH AND HEBRON, FROM THE TRAFFIC REPORT ON PAGE 20, IT SHOWS THE KEY INTERSECTIONS AT MARSH AND HEBRON AT LEVEL SERVICE E. ANY DEVELOPMENT RISK, PUSHING IT TO LEVEL F, WHICH MEANS FAILURE. THE PICTURE THAT'S UP THERE DOESN'T SHOW THE CURRENT VEHICLES PER DAY IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT UP THERE. IT OPENLY PROMOTES THAT BUSINESS WILL BENEFIT FROM HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUMES. IN CLOSING UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2007, RESIDENTS OF 200 FEET MUST BE NOTIFIED, YET, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CANDOR CARE LEARNING CENTER 200 FEET FROM THAT PROPOSED REZONING WAS NOT. HIGHLIGHTING COMPLIANCE FAILURES. THERE'S ALSO AVALON MEMORY CARE THAT WAS NOT REPORTED. IT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT NEXT TO CANDOR CARE. THAT HAS DEMENTIA FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE THERE. IN CLOSING, I WILL SAY, LET'S FOCUS NOT ON FINANCIAL GAIN AND ECONOMIC PROGRESS, BUT LET'S LOOK AT
COMMUNITY SAFETY. >> YOUR TIME IS UP.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TERRENCE MAXWELL.
>> VERY GOOD. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER DOES NOT WISH -- MY NEXT CART DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. GARY MILLER IS IN OPPOSITION. MY NEXT CART DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. IT IS IN OPPOSITION. THAT IS CLAY. MY NEXT CARD IS JERRON NORDOZA.
SUSAN. SUSAN. MY APOLOGIES. SOMETIMES THE HANDWRITING GETS
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ME. HE WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES WHEN YOU START. TAKE YOUR TIME.>> I AM -- NORDOZA, AND I AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSED INVASION.
THE IS ROOM -- WE HAVE THE STARS COMING TO THE NORTH AND IN THE SOUTH, WE HAVE 1.2 MILLION OFFICE SPACE, 800 APARTMENTS. THEY ARE AT INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY. ANOTHER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
THIS DOES -- HIGH DENSITY DESTROYS NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT IS SURROUNDING HOUSES AND ATTRACTS OWNERS. AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, IT IS ONE-BEDROOM. IT IS NOT FAMILY ORIENTED. FOR OTHERS, TOO. WE ARE DIVERSE. ACCIDENTS, CRASH RATES. WE ALL KNOW A THURSDAY IS NOT WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING REPORTED THEM. WE ARE ALSO MISSING WEDNESDAYS, ALSO, THAT HAVE CHURCHES MEETING. HIGH DENSITY INCREASES CRIME. CONCENTRATION CREATES CONGESTION. INCREASES TESTAMENTS. THE MOSQUITOES.
ACCELERATES THE DECLINE OF THE APARTMENTS. IT ALSO PULLS AWAY FROM AREAS THAT NEED DEVELOPMENT. I IMPLORE YOU, PROTECT THE SINGLE HOME OF CARROLLTON. PROTECT IT. THIS IS WHERE WE GROW OUR BUSINESSES. WHERE WE GROW OUR BRAND. WE DON'T WANT TO GROW WITH CONGESTION. WITH THAT, IT ALSO INCREASES ELECTRICITY. NOW, LARGE BUILDINGS DO NOT HAVE THE FREE FLOW OF THE BREEZES. THEY ARE IN TEXAS. I'M GOING TO SHOOT FROM THE HIP, AND THAT IS SHOOTING FROM THE HIP.
>> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS VICTOR RUSSELL.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. HOW ARE YOU DOING? MY NAME IS VICTOR RUSSELL. I MET 3701 MAYFIELD COURT AT OAK CREEK ESTATES. THE PROPOSED AVAILMENT AS PLANNED -- AND I PRESENTED A LITTLE BIT OF A SYNOPSIS TO CITY COUNCIL EARLIER, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE MULTIFAMILY, I THINK, IS AN INAPPROPRIATE USE FOR THE SITE. MUCH LIKE WHAT WE HAD WITH THE VILLAS OF PRESSING WOOD, WHICH HAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS DONE EFFICIENTLY WELL. FULL DISCLOSURE, I HENRY AND LUCY IN THE FAMILY AS FAR AS BEING IN THE SAME INDUSTRY AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A $100 MILLION PROJECT IN MY ESTIMATION ANYWAYS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT COSTS TO PUT THESE 400 UNITS UP AND YOU LOOK AT 188, 185, 195 TOWNHOMES THAT WOULD BE IN THE FOR 25, 450 RANGE, IT WOULD BE REPLICATED MUCH LIKE WHAT WE HAD WITH THE VILLAS OF PRESTONWOOD AND MUCH MORE STABLE AT THAT TYPE OF LONG-TERM RESIDENT. SO MY POINT BEING THAT OUTSIDE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE STRAINS AND TRAFFIC STRAINS HERE, SEVERAL GOOD POINTS WERE MADE AS IT RELATES TO THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF THIS. IT IS NOT BEING OPPOSED TO HAVING RESIDENTIAL LIVING, BUT THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL LIVING. ALICE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND I GO BACK TO VILLAS OF TECH ONE IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. 200 UNITS, 185 UNITS ON A TOWNHOUSE THAT GENERATES $100 MILLION DEVELOPMENT. MATTER OF FACT, IT GENERATES MORE THAN $100 TO WILMS FOR THE FAMILY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE LESS USE OF THE SITE AS IT RELATES TO SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, PLEASE LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE. THE DEVELOPER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN UNITS. 2500 SQUARE FEET. 2000 SQUARE FEET. 450 475 AND GENERATE A STABLE TECH SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. RUSSELL. >> ALL RIGHT. MY NEXT CARD IS FOR JANE SLATTERY. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION.
JANE. >> MY NEXT CARD IS DAVID SMITH.
HE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION.
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>> MY NEXT CARD IS DURENDA SMITH. IT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. MY NEXT CARD IS ROBERT SYKES. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. OPPOSITION. ANDREA TRITON IS IN OPPOSITION.
IT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. YOU MAY DO SO. YOU WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES. >> ANDREA TRITON. I LIVE IN ESTATES OF TRI-COUNTRY. 3008 JUST EAST HEBRON PARKWAY. HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED AT MARSH AND HEBRON. I IMPLORE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED BETWEEN CHARLES AND HEBRON ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MIDWAY AND HEBRON BECAUSE IT IS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE AND IN THAT FIVE YEAR STUDY, SHOW ME WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE SEE ACCIDENTS ALL THE TIME. I LIVE IN THE AREA. I WORK IN THE AREA. TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN. AND WELCOME TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
I WELCOME THE NEW RETAIL ON HEBRON AND WE ENJOYED THE RETAIL ALREADY PUT IN BUT I OPPOSE THE UNITS. I ENJOYED THE RESIDENTIAL OPTION THAT WOULD LOVE TO HEAR CONSIDERED. I OPPOSE IT THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT CARD IS LISA VANDERBURG. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. IS IN OPPOSITION. KEITH VANDERBURG. OKAY. YOU MAY DO SO.
>> MY NAME IS KEITH VANDERBURG. I LIVE AT 2231 MEADOW DRIVE. I BACK UP TO HEBRON PARKWAY. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC PERSON THAT WORKED MANY YEARS AGO CALLED -- NAMED DEXTER. IT STUDIES ON HEBRON.
WHEN I MOVED IN MY HOME, HEBRON PARKWAY WAS A TWO BIT GRAVEL BLACKTOP ROAD. I HAVE SEEN CHANGE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGE. BUT I AM TOTALLY AGAINST THIS MASSIVE DENSITY IDEA THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON THERE. THE TRAFFIC IS REAL. JUST LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE SAID, WE LIVE WITH IT EVERY DAY. I CANNOT EVEN GET OFF OF MY STREET ONTO HEBRON PARKWAY. I'M 70 YEARS OLD. I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR OVER 45 YEARS, AND I'VE LIVED WITHIN 10 MILES. MY ENTIRE LIFE. AND I'M JUST SAYING, LET'S TRY TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THAT AREA. IT'S CONGESTION, CONGESTION, CONGESTION. TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. I WISH YOU GUYS -- YOU ARE ELECTED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I WISH YOU WOULD GIVE THIS SOME THOUGHT AND NOT LET THESE FINANCIAL THINGS CLOUD YOUR ABILITY TO THINK THROUGH THIS. ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> MY LAST CARD IS FROM MARTY WHITAKER. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. OKAY. I HAVE NO OTHER CARDS. IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, YOU MAY DO SO NOW. BY APPROACHING THE PODIUM.
JUST A SECOND. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> BILL JONES, 3706 -- COURT. I'VE GOT TWO THINGS. SHE MENTIONED IT BUT IF ANYBODY IN THE COMPLEX WANTS TO GO SOUTH ON MARSH, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A HECKUVA TIME TO GET AROUND THERE. THAT'S ONE. AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, A TOLLWAY AND GEORGE BUSH PAID FOR STREETS OR HIGHWAYS ARE CLOGGED UP AND PEOPLE , YOU KNOW, DO A DETOUR AND THEY GO DOWN MARSH DURING THE RUSH HOUR. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK MAY DO SO BY APPROACHING THE PODIUM. I'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT A MOMENT. DO YOU WANT A REBUTTAL? YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE -- AND CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. WITH THAT, COUNCIL, I WILL ENTERTAIN
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A REBUTTAL FROM OUR APPLICANT. YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PROVIDE CONTENT ON EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.>> MY NAME IS HARRY BILLINGSLY 16 -- 6701 TURTLE CREEK. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO PASS OUT A DOSE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT RENDERINGS. I MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. THIS IS NOT A RENDERING. IT IS A PICTURE OF A BUILDING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BUILT AND IT IS A VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE FACING MARSH, AND SO ANYBODY LOOKING FROM ACROSS MARSH, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT, AND THIS IS PART OF A BUILDING WHICH IS A BUILDING AT CYPRESS WATERS.
LOOKS LIKE A SERIES OF TOWNHOUSES BUT IT IS A RAP BUILDING. THE REASON THE DENSITY IS HIGHER ON THIS THAN THE 18 OR 22 OR 24 -- THE WAY PEOPLE USED TO BUILD APARTMENT REGARDING OFFICE AVERMENTS, AND THEY WERE TWO OR THREE STORIES AND THEY WOULD TAKE A LOT OF ACREAGE IN BE 18 TO 24 UNITS TO THE A. A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS ARE WRAP BUILDINGS. IT IS MUCH MORE POPULAR. THEY HAVE AIR-CONDITIONED PARKWAYS. YOU END UP GETTING A LOT MORE DENSITY PER ACRE AND SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT THE DENSITY GOES UP BECAUSE THIS IS THE CURRENT TREND OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN, AND WE OFTEN GET 225 TO 250 UNITS ON A TWO ACRE SITE BUT THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF IT, IF IT IS FOR STORIES AND IT IS A WRAP BUILDINGS, BUT WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT HERE. QUALITY AND TRAFFIC. AND IF I CAN GET -- HOW DOES THIS THING WORK? IF WE CAN GET BACK TO IT, THE REAL BUILDING. KNOW. THE ONE YOU HAD BEFORE THAT. THE VERTICAL.
THAT'S FINE. AND HOW DOES THE WINNER WORK? OKAY. OKAY. ANYWAY, THIS SHOWS TWO WRAP BUILDINGS IN THE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT. THIS WAS DESIGNED WITH THE IDEA THAT TRAFFIC WAS HEAVY ON HEBRON AND IT IS REASONABLY HEAVY ON MARSH. THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES GOING TO THE PROPERTY ON MARSH. IT IS RIGHT IN COLORADO. THERE IS NOTHING GOING CROSSWAYS WHICH REALLY SLOWS IT DOWN. THE NEXT ONE IS RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. ON HEBRON PARKWAY WHICH IS A MAJOR SIX LANE STREET, IT IS RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. YOU DON'T CROSS THE STREET AND MESS UP TRAFFIC. SO THAT IS GOOD FOR TRAFFIC FLOW. THREE OF YOUR FIVE ACCESS POINTS ARE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. WHEN YOU GET ONTO INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, THAT'S WE HAD TWO OF THEM AND IF I HAD A POINTER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING AREA ISN'T THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. AT THE ENTRANCE. ANYBODY LIVING IN THE SOPRANOS, THAT IS THE IN AND OUT RIGHT THERE. THAT MEANS THEY'RE COMING FROM INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, PERIOD. THE OTHER ONE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING AREA ON THE OTHER STRUCTURES OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER RIGHT THERE -- THAT IS THE IN AND OUT OF THAT BUILDING AND THE WAY PEOPLE WOULD GET OUT OF THAT IS THEY WOULD GO NORTH AND TAKE IT RIGHT AND GET OVER TO INTERNATIONAL IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO DALLAS PARKWAY OR IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO GEORGE BUSH. I MEAN, I LOOK AT IT. I'VE BEEN OUT HERE. I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 1980.
SOME OF YOU PROBABLY AREN'T BORN THEN. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE BUT IF I GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THAT, IF I LIVED THERE, I'D BE ON INTERNATIONAL, GOING OVER TO MIDWAY, DOWN MIDWAY TO BUSH OR GOING STRAIGHT ON OVER TO THE NORTH DALLAS TOLL ROAD CUT UP AND HE FOUND IT TO GO NORTH OR SOUTH OR EAST OR WEST. SO I THINK IT WILL HAVE VERY, VERY MINIMAL IMPACT TRAFFIC WISE ON MARSH, AND A LITTLE MORE ON HEBRON BUT THERE IS ONE MORE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ON THAT. I THINK AT THE RETAIL WILL BE AN AMENITY FOR THE AIR. WE DID 16,000 FEET WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF INTERNATIONAL. IT IS ALL EAST UP. I THINK IT'S A REAL AMENITY FOR THE AREA. THIS WILL BE MORE RETAIL AND IT WILL BE TWO-SIDED. ONE SIDE WILL FACE A HEBRON, GET THE TRAFFIC GOING BY THE OTHER SIDE, WOULD BE ON THE WATER FEATURE AND ALL.
IT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE AMENITY I THINK FOR THE AREA AND WOULD UPGRADE THE AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE APARTMENTS -- I HAD THE PHOTO THAT I SHOWED YOU FROM A BUILDING WE BUILT AT CYPRESS
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WATERS. IF I WERE DRIVING UP MARSH, OR IF I LIVED IN THE HIGHLANDS OR IN THAT AREA, I WOULD SAY, THIS WOULD DRAMATICALLY IMPACT THE VALUE OF PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA. IT IS VERY VERY GOOD LOOKING, AND THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE BUILT IN THIS AREA WHICH IS AGAIN, A WRAP BUILDING, WHICH IS AT WILDER, WHICH IS AT MIDWAY AND PARK. WE BUT THAT SIX YEARS AGO. GRANTED 72 UNITS. IT IS 94% LEASED UP. THE RENTS ARE $2.20 A SQUARE FOOT. THAT MEANS, IF YOU HAD A 902,000 SQUARE-FOOT APARTMENT, YOUR RENT WOULD BE BETWEEN 820 $600 PER MONTH. THESE ARE NOT LOW-RENT APARTMENTS OR ATTRACTING PEOPLE LIKE SOME OF THE APARTMENTS IN DALLAS THAT ARE A MILE OR MILE AND A HALF TO THE SOUTH. THESE ARE VERY NICE APARTMENTS AND ATTRACT VERY SOLID PEOPLE. AND LET ME SAY, WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.WE OWN 550 ACRES BETWEEN MARSH, THE TOLL ROAD, GEORGE BUSH, AND HEBRON PARKWAY, SO WE ARE INVESTED IN THIS AREA AND IF WE DO SOMETHING GOOD , IT IMPACTS THE VALUE OF EVERYTHING AROUND IT. AND IF WE DO SOMETHING BAD, IT HURTS THE VALUE SO WE'VE GOT MORE CHIPS ON THE TABLE THAN MOST PEOPLE AND IT'S IN OUR INTEREST AND IN THE CITY'S INTEREST TO HAVE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. IN THIS WHOLE PROJECT WOULD BE BUILT SIMULTANEOUSLY. SO THE RETAIL WOULD GO AND AT THE SAME TIME AS THE MULTIFAMILY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, COUNCIL. AGAIN, THIS IS A LAND-USE DISCUSSION. FROM A LAND-USE PERSPECTIVE. THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS IS FROM AN APPROPRIATENESS STANDPOINT -- IT IS AN APPROPRIATE LAND-USE. MR. SHAPIRO, AS I LOOK AT THIS AND I THINK ABOUT WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY?? BUT THAT LARGER MAP UP THERE FOR A SECOND?
>> LET'S SEE IF I CAN -- >> YEAH. SO, WHAT IS -- JUST KIND OF WALK -- DRIVE DOWN HEBRON PARKWAY AND ACROSS INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY. YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
YOU'VE GOT SOME MORE MULTIFAMILY MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG HEBRON AND MIDWAY. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. YOU HAVE BASICALLY OFFICE THAT IS ON INTERNATIONAL AND YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY IN ADDITION TO THAT.
ALONG MIDWAY. YOU ARE AT THE INTERSECTION OF HEBRON PARKWAY
AS YOU GO FURTHER EAST. >> OKAY. COUNCIL, I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS HERE. COUNCILMAN CARPENTER.
>> MR. SHAPIRO, WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I HEARD AND MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND. THE -- IS A HIGHLY COMMERCIAL OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL LETTUCE CURRENTLY LOANED OUT RIGHT NOW?
>> THE CURRENT ZONING IS PD, BUT HEAVY COMMERCIAL IS THE BASE
INAUDIBLE ] >> AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
>> YES. >> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE MF18. WE HAVE A DESIGNATION HIGHER THAN MF18?
>> WE DO NOT. >> WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THAT INDICATE THAT THE MAX DENSITY WOULD BE 17 BUT WE TEND TO GO
OVER THAT. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
LIKE I TRIED TO EXPLAIN EARLY IN THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS OR PDS IN PLACE MENTIONED IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS THE CITY TO GO AND ALLOW A GREATER DENSITY. IN THIS CASE, 44 UNITS TO THE A.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE FOLLOWED THAT SAME PRESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY AND OTHER SIMILAR -- SUCH AS THE SITE SUCH AS DIAMOND FLATS AND SO FORTH. THE OTHER PART IS -- THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING A MAXIMUM OF 36 UNITS TO THE A . WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH LEGAL AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STATE LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED THIS PAST SESSION.
ONE OF THEM WAS SENATE BILL 840 AND THAT TALKS ABOUT HAVING LIMITATIONS ON CERTAIN TYPES OF CITIES AND THOSE ARE CITIES THAT HAVE 150,000 OR MORE. AND THAT IS BASED ON THE SENSES AND SPECIFICALLY THE 2020 CENSUS. CARROLLTON ONLY HAS 35,000. SO THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THIS DISCUSSION
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DON'T APPLY TO CARROLLTON. THAT SAID, I WANTED TO CLARIFY TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU ALL AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS AND THOSE IN THE PAST -- IN SEPTEMBER -- AN EFFECTIVE DATE BY THE STATE -- HAVE BEEN MEETING BUT THE STATE LAW AS WELL AS OUR CONFERENCE OF PLAN SO I WANTED TO SORT THAT OUT BUT AS YOU ARE ASKING, YES, WE ALLOWED GREATER DENSITY BUT THAT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED WITH HAVING A EXAMPLES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PASSED IN RECENT YEARS. DESPITE YOUR POINT IS BECAUSE IT IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WE ALLOWED TO GO BEYOND. IF IT WERE NOT GOING TO BE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, IF WE WERE GOING STRAIGHT TO MF18 IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE THEMAXIMUM OF 18. >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLEAR VACATION. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU AND THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT I GUESS TO 11 AND RCZO BEING IN ALIGNMENT. CAN YOU
COMMENT ON THAT? >> KIND OF LIKE WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO, THERE WAS SOME STATE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE AND IN THIS INSTANCE FOR BOTH THE DENSITY AND BASICALLY ALLOWANCES FOR WHAT CITIES CAN AND CANNOT DO -- ONLY APPLICABLE TO CITIES OVER 150,000. IN THIS CASE, WITH US BEING UNDER THAT, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO US. FURTHERMORE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO ALLOWS US TO MAKE REZONING CHANGES USING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THAT SPECIFICALLY IS MENTIONED IN OUR CONFERENCE OF PLAN, AS WELL.
>> AND MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BEING DONE ON SEPTEMBER 18TH OR WHATEVER THE DATE WAS. THURSDAY OR WHATEVER DAY IT WAS, CAN YOU MAYBE SPEAK TO, FROM A BEST PRACTICE PERSPECTIVE, HOW CHURCH TRAFFIC -- OBVIOUSLY, PRESTONWOOD IS A MEGA-CHURCH.
OTHER CHURCHES ARE PERHAPS NOT AS BIG BUT THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER -- OTHER TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS. HOW ARE CHURCHES, GIVEN THEIR SHORT WINDOW OF TRAFFIC IMPACT , TYPICALLY CONSIDERED INTO TRAFFIC? THERE IS NO DOUBT ON THE SUNDAY AFTERNOON, THAT'S A
>> OUR CHURCHES FROM THE PLANNED USE AND TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS
CONSIDERED OR NOT? >> FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AS FAR AS MITIGATION OF THINGS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A 20 MINUTE PERIOD DURING THE WEEKEND ON WEDNESDAY IT IS NOT NEARLY AS BAD. YOU DON'T HAVE MITIGATION OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH THAT IS TYPICAL. ON SUNDAY, BASICALLY THE SMALLER CHURCHES ARE HANDLED WITHIN OUR TRAFFIC SYSTEMS. WE ARE AWARE OF MODERATE SIZED CHURCHES WHERE WE ADJUST SIGNALS TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. CHURCHES NEAR THIS PROPERTY ARE USUALLY HANDLED BY OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS AND THEY ARE IN THIS CASE. SO WHEN THEY ARE LETTING OUT THE POLICE ON SITE, THEY LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC ON HEBRON AND THEY STOP IT AS NEEDED -- THEY LET THE
NORMAL TRAFFIC GO THROUGH. >> SO THEY SERVE AS THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND THE TRAFFIC -- SPEC IT IS A SHORT PV OF TIME. IT'S ON A SUNDAY MORNING. IT IS NOT A HIGH-TRAFFIC TIME. YOU KNOW, THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC. THAT IS VERY TYPICAL OF HOW THAT IS HANDLED
THROUGHOUT THE NATION. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MAY HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER KLEIN.
>> I HAD A QUESTION I WAS WONDERING ABOUT ON THE RIGHT INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY -- THIS IS PROBABLY FOR PLANNING. THERE IS A SPACE THAT IS GOING TO REMAIN VACANT, THE GREEN SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE, IS THAT GOING TO HANG OUT THERE LIKE THAT?
>> I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT. IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE. FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN, IT IS WHAT IS
>> THAT'S THERE TODAY. >> YEAH. THAT'S THERE TODAY.
THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED ALREADY.
>> BUT NANCY IS ASKING, IS THAT STRIP GOING TO REMAIN?
>> THAT'S INTERESTING. AND THEN THERE IS JOINT ACCESS WITH THE
GAS STATION? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
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>> SO IT'S PROBABLY AN ACCESS EASEMENT. ONE OF THE COMMENTS MADE -- OKAY. SO I HAVE ANOTHER KIND OF PLANNING QUESTION. AND AS THE THINGS SAID NO COVERED PARKING. WHAT PARKING DO THE PEOPLE ON THE FAR SOUTH SIDE HAVE FOR THE FIVE UNITS AND FIVE UNITS? DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE GARAGE, OR WHERE?
>> THEY HAVE GARAGE ACCESS AT THE REAR OF THOSE.
>> AND WRENS AROUND THE BACK AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS GARAGE ACCESS FOR THOSE UNITS AND THERE'S ALSO PARALLEL
PARKING ON THE PARKING LANE. >> A KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
WHERE IS VISITOR PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? OKAY. AND THEN, AND THEN A COMMENT THAT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MADE MADE ME THINK ABOUT U-TURNS ON MARSH. AND IT BEING A FOUR-LANE ROAD.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A U-TURN ON A FOUR-LANE ROAD. HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT OR CONSIDERED?
>> YEAH. IT IS. THERE IS A WIDE MEDIAN SO YOU CAN MAKE THE TURN.
>> AND HOW MANY LANES DOES THE INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY HAVE?
>> IT IS FOR MY CLIENTS. >> OKAY. SO KIND OF THE SAME
THING -- BUT PICKUP TRUCKS -- >> IT HAS
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND MR. SHAPIRO. ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS MADE A COMMENT REGARDING A PROMISE TO THE SOUTH. THAT'S THE CITY OF DALLAS. THE APARTMENT DOWN THERE. AND SO FORTH. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ZONING. I DIDN'T SEE IT THERE -- IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE LAND USE AND ZONING THAT RESTRICTS THE APPLICANT FROM UTILIZING VOUCHERS OR SECTION 8 OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> WE CAN'T DO THAT AS A CITY.
WE CAN'T DO THAT. THE AREAS YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THAT IS
SOUTH IN DALLAS. >> NOT ONLY IS THERE NOT ANYTHING IN THAT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO RESTRICT
THAT. >> THAT IS CORRECT. WE CANNOT
>> THIS IS FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT. TELL ME ABOUT THE EXISTING OR FUTURE SOLUTIONS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN PARALLEL OR BEYOND THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT AND YOU MONITORING THAT WOULD BE ONE BUT, I MEAN, IT REALLY STRIKES ME -- THE THINGS THAT WE COULD BE ABLE TO DO -- PERHAPS IN PARALLEL WITH DEVELOPMENT, KNOWING THAT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO INCREASE. KNOWING WHAT THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS ARE OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA. WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ENTERTAIN TO BE ABLE TO SEE THERE WERE THINGS WE COULD BE ABLE TO DO IN PARALLEL WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT? THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE LAND USE?
>> IT HAS TO BE REASONABLE IN PROPORTION TO THE PROPERTY.
>> I THINK THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS HERE. IF YOU'RE ASKING IF THE CITY CAN TAKE SOME ACTION, IT WOULD NOT BE A DISCUSSION ITEM TONIGHT, BUT WHAT HE'S TRYING TO TELL YOU IS WE CAN'T REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT'S ALREADY PUT FORTH BECAUSE THAT'S BASED UPON WHAT IS
REASONABLE. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO CONSIDER IT I'M ASKING THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER IT KNOWING WHAT THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IS GOING TO
BE. >> THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CORSETS WE TALKED ABOUT FOR MITIGATION SO WE CAN NOT CONSIDER THAT FOR THE CASE BUT WHAT WE HEARD BEFORE IS THAT ALL MITIGATION FOR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED REGARDLESS OF WHAT GOES ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND. BUT CHIMING IN ON THAT. WHATEVER THAT SLOWDOWN LANE IS. HEBRON. IS THERE A SLOWDOWN LANE ON
THE DEVELOPER IS PUTTING IN. >> THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADD TO A DEVELOPMENT AND HAS BEEN ADDED
TO THIS DEVELOPED. >> IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SIMILAR TO THAT THAT HAS BEEN ADDED FROM THAT STANDPOINT AS WELL, THAT HASN'T BEEN CALLED OUT SO FAR? ANYTHING SIMILAR?
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>> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA BECAUSE THE MOST DIFFICULT THING FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IS GETTING THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY TO DO THAT. >> SO THIS WOULD BE A TWO -- THERE IS ALREADY A FOREST RIGHT LANE OR SINGLE RIGHT LANE. IN
THE SECOND ONE THERE. >> I THINK THE BEST WAY IS TO LENGTHEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE DRIVEWAY.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I LOVE THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION. I THINK THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING PART SO FAR THIS EVENING IS KIND OF THINKING THROUGH THAT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, AND HOW THAT LAND IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED AND WHAT CAN BE DONE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SO I APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ASK A QUESTION TO MR. SHAPIRO. SO, AGAIN, IF YOU PULL OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU WANT TO TURN, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING THAT SAYS NO U-TURN -- THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY TRAFFIC CHANGES AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE ON MARSH LANE.
THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADD A NOTE U-TURN THERE ANYWHERE ON THERE OR ADD ANY OF THE ABILITY TO TURN LEFT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST DESCRIBED AND ALL OF THAT IS NOW RIGHT TURN ONTO MARSH.
>> THAT IS CORRECT AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED, TOO, AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARSH AND HEBRON, THERE IS A NO U-TURN SIGN NOW, SO IT IS PROHIBITED AT THIS POINT, SO IN ORDER TO TURN LEFT ON MARSH, FROM ANYWHERE IN THE HOME, LEGALLY, HOW WOULD YOU
BE ABLE TO DO THAT? >> YOU CANNOT.
>> YOU CANNOT. >> UNLESS YOU'RE USING THE FAR
SOUTH DRIVE. >> YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT. BUT YOU
CAN'T TURN LEFT? >> AND GO NORTH.
>> THE MIDDLE MEDIAN OPENING WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY.
>> IT IS A RIGHT TURN FOLLOWED BY A U-TURN.
>> THE WAY YOU GO SOUTH ON MARSH IS COMING OUT OF THE SOUTH DRIVEWAY, GO TO THE LEFT TURN BAY AND MAKE A U-TURN. NO?
>> YEAH. SO, SO -- >> JOB DONE. A FEW TIMES.
>> WE WILL NOT TRAFFIC TO GO SOUTH ON THIS.
>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- THERE IS A NO U-TURN AT HEBRON AND MARSH. AS YOU GO DOWN TO THE NEXT MEDIAN BREAK THAT IS FEEDING INTO THE HOSPITAL ACROSS THE STREET, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME OUT -- BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS QUESTION -- IF SOMEONE WERE TO EGRESS FURTHER SOUTH DRIVEWAY, TAKE A RIGHT, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE A U-TURN AT THE FIRST
MEDIUM BREAK. -- MEDIAN BREAK. >> THAT IS THE INTENTION.
>> THAT IS ALLOWED. THE MEDIAN IS SUFFICIENT.
>> THE MEDIAN IS SUFFICIENT TO MAKE THE U-TURN.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I HAVE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER PALOMO.
>> SOMEBODY MENTIONED THIS NOT BEING A TOD DISTRICT. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT MAKES UP A TOD DISTRICT AND WHY THIS IS NOT SO?
>> THE DENTAL DISTRICTS ARE AROUND THE TRANSIT STATIONS.
THIS AREA BEING FURTHER NORTH, IT WOULD BE EITHER PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR SOME TYPE OF ZONING BUT NOT
>> SO OUR DART SYSTEM MAP REACHES TO THAT AREA DOESN'T
MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. >> TRANSIT CENTER HAS A DIFFERENT SET OF ZONING REGULATIONS.
>> OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN, SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR ASKING, BUT AS FAR AS GETTING IN AND OUT ON HEBRON, PARTICULARLY, THERE IS ONLY ONE FOR THIS PLAN TO THEM THERE IS ONLY ONE ENTRANCE AND ONE EXIT THROUGH HEBRON PARKWAY AND THAT IS REALLY INTO THE
RETAIL AREA OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. >> THAT'S CORRECT.
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>> OKAY. AND THE THOROUGHFARE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY ITSELF -- IS THAT -- DOES THAT ALLOW FOR TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC INCLUDING THE DOUBLE PARKING -- DOUBLE PARKING ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING? OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN RAISED FROM A DENSITY PERSPECTIVE, TRAFFIC IS CLEARLY A CONCERN OF DENSITY. BUT, WHAT ABOUT CRIME? CHIEF, KENNY MAKES SOME COMMENTS AND HELP US UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT ON CRIME, PETTY OR PROPERTY CRIMES ET CETERA.
RELATED TO OUR HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS AND WHETHER A PROPERTY THAT IS MANAGED -- HONOR MANAGED VERSUS -- MANAGED
POLICE. SURE. WE ARE LUCKY TO LIVE IN A GREAT CITY WHERE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WELL-FUNDED AND WELL STAFFED. WE WORK REALLY DILIGENTLY TO KEEP OUR CRIME DOWN. WE TAKE CRIME VERY PERSONAL. PROPERTY CRIME IS AN ISSUE. A LOT OF PROPERTY IS REALLY LOW. BOTH ARE REALLY LOW THIS YEAR. THANKFUL FOR THAT.
WHAT I LEARNED IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS -- IT TAKES ABOUT 10 YEARS OR SO BEFORE THERE IS A BIG CRIME IMPACT. WHAT WE USE IN OUR STAFFING MODELS. IT TAKES TIME FOR THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES TO BE SOLD TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND THOSE DEVELOPERS GET TO GET THEIR MONEY OR THOSE FOLKS GET THEIR MONEY BACK OUT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY START, NOT KEEPING THE BUILDINGS UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO TAKES ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME. WE ARE NOT SIGNED ANY -- NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE, BUT MY CONCERN WOULD BE
DOWN THE ROAD. >> OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND THERE'S TWO DEVELOPMENTS -- SALON -- RIGHT IN THIS GENERAL AREA.
SLOANE AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? WILDER PLACE. SLOANE IS -- THOSE ARE BOTH CARROLLTON. RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE ANY -- DO WE HAVE ANY CRIMES -- CONCERNS RELATIVE TO THOSE TWO
PROPERTIES? >> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT OVERLY CONCERNED.
>> FROM HOTSPOTS IN SO FORTH -- THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE HOTSPOTS.
>> NO. HOWEVER, THOSE ARE AROUND THE CITY, AND AS WE FOLLOW OUR TRENDS AND DATA, AND SOMETIMES WE DISPLACE CRIME INTO OTHER AREAS. OTHER CRIMES DISPLACE COME TO US AND WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT THE DATA TELLS US AND OUR HOTSPOTS MOVE AROUND
THE CITY. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION. VERY SORRY. BASED ON THE HIGH DENSITY TRAFFIC, EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, IS THERE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE EITHER FROM PATROLLING OR RESOURCES OR ANYTHING BASED ON THIS LAND USE THAT'S ON THIS CORNER? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE?
>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY, WE GIVE IT MORE ATTENTION BUT IT'S PART OF
OUR PATROL MODEL, ANYWAYS. >> INCORPORATING THAT INTO BUSINESS AS USUAL? IS THAT YOUR ANSWER?
>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MR. SHAPIRO. SORRY, MR. SCHIPPER. IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE QUESTION REGARDING THE WATER. THE APPLICANT THAT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN -- NOT JUST THE HIGH DENSITY UNITS. THE MULTIUSE COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS THE FIXTURE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE UNIT, THERE IS A WATER TOWER I KNOW THAT IS JUST SOUTH OF THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS. BOTH FROM ] STATES AS WELL AS SURROUNDING AREAS THAT THERE'S BEEN WATER PRESSURE PROBLEMS THERE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN COMPLACENCY. HAS THE CITY DONE ANY KIND OF STUDY OR ANY KIND OF RESEARCH INTO UTILITIES, WATER, ANY OF THE AND PROJECTOR NEEDS FOR THIS
HIGH-DENSITY PROPERTY? >> JONATHAN WEANT, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SO WE RECENTLY DID OUR CIP WATER PLAN, AND IT WAS HEAVY COMMERCIAL FOR LAND USE AT THE TIME. CHANGE -- GET THAT UPDATED AND REVIEWED IT BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT JUMPED OUT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. THERE
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WAS A PLAN IN THE FUTURE TO ADD A BOOSTER PUMP TO ONE OF THE STATIONS, BUT THAT'S IN OUR PLAN, IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT.>> OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AND MAYOR.
>> OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL
MEMBER KLEIN. >> I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT HEBRON PARKWAY. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO ADD A SECOND TURN LANE BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY MOVEMENT. PEOPLE DON'T REALLY GO WEST ON HEBRON AND TURN DOWN INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, BUT THEY DO TAKE MARSH A LOT. SO I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT STAFF WOULD CONSIDER THIS AS THEIR CONTINUING IN THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH. THAT'S A FAIR POINT. MANY OF US HAVE RAISED THAT.
IT'S NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO THE CASE TONIGHT. BUT IT IS
CERTAINLY ON OUR MIND. >> AGAIN, THIS IS A LAND-USE DISCUSSION. THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LAND-USE CHANGE FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY MIXED-USE. GIVEN -- GIVEN THE ASPECTS OF ALL CONSIDERATIONS OF LAND-USE. MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS CAME OUT TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE INPUTS. MANY OF YOU -- MANY OF US ARE NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA, SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT AS WE LOOK AT THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS -- WE ALL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE IS DENSITY IS COMING TO TEXAS. THE REGION HAS 8 MILLION PEOPLE TODAY. IT WILL HAVE 12 TO 15 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS . IT'S GOING TO DOUBLE, ALMOST AND DENSITY IS COMING AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED -- NOT RELEVANT TO THIS CASE SO I'M NOT TRYING TO DO -- USE IT AS A TALKING POINT. I WILL JUST TELL YOU, THOUGH, THAT HAD THIS PROPERTY BEEN A BLOCK NORTH IN PLANO, THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RED. WE WOULD NOT -- AS A LOCAL AUTHORITY WITH THE ABILITY TO DENY IT -- IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH -- EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL OR MANUFACTURING.
THAT IS THE STATE LEGISLATURES PREEMPTION LAWS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE SO I SHARE THAT WITH YOU JUST TO SAY THAT DENSITY, YOU KNOW, ONCE UPON A TIME, WE LOOKED AT DENSITY TO SAY, WE ONLY WANTED DENSITY ALONG OUR TRANSIT ZONES BUT THAT REALITY IS, DENSITY AND ACCESS TO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO KEEP THE DENSITY CLOSER TO THE TOLLWAYS AND THE HIGHWAYS, IS A BETTER MOVE THAN PERHAPS SEEING DENSITY POP UP IN OTHER AREAS SO I SHARE THAT WITH YOU JUST FOR EDIFICATION AND INFORMATION.
COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL
MEMBER FLEMING. >> YES SIR, MR. MEHMET -- MAYOR.
ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I CAN REMEMBER BACK, I THINK THE COUNCILS POLICY WHEN IT CAME TO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, I REMEMBER MAYOR MATTHEW SAID THAT ALL NEED MULTIFAMILY UNITS WILL BE BUILT ON TOD, SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN AND AROUND THAT AREA AS WELL AS REMEMBER HEARING MAYOR KEVIN FAULKNER SAYING ALL NEW UNITS WILL BE BUILT IN TOD THERE IS.
ALL NEED MULTIFAMILY WILL BE BUILT IN WITH THE CHANT -- TOD AREA. FOR THAT REASON, I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS PROJECT BUT I WANT TO THINK MR. BILLINGSLY AND HIS FAMILY FOR HIS EFFORTS AND THE DEVIL MEANT THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN OUR AREA FOR MANY YEARS. I KNOW THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WOULD NOT BE VOTING FOR IT IS BECAUSE OF THAT
COUNCILS POLICY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL, I INVITE ANYONE TO SPEAK OR I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER PROBABLY A SIMILAR OPINION TO MR. FLEMING ALTHOUGH MY RATIONALE IS DIFFERENT. I REALLY LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS LAND NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED. REMEMBER SOMEONE MAKING THE COMMENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LEFT ALONE. IT WON'T BE.
WE WILL DEVELOP THIS. I BELIEVE THE DENSITY IS WRONG FOR THIS
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DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT WE NEED A LOWER DENSITY DESIGNED FOR THIS. I WOULD BE NERVOUS AS WELL, THOUGH, TO SEE, THE LARGE RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE BUILT THERE. OR THAT CAN BE BUILT THERE RIGHT NOW. I DO BELIEVE THAT FOR THIS, IT IS THE DENSITY IS TOO HIGH AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A DESIGN COMEBACK THAT HAS LOWER DENSITY. I DO BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. I DO BELIEVE THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE. I JUST FEEL THAT THE DENSITY IS TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, BUT I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT IF THAT'S -- UNLESS THERE SOMEONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT BUT I WILL BE VOTINGAGAINST IT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM ASK BURKE.
>> SO I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER RAISES A REALLY GOOD POINT AS FAR AS DENSITY. BUT I THINK THE POINT THAT'S IN FRONT OF ME, THOUGH, IS REALLY FROM THE LAND-USE STANDPOINT. AND WHAT ALL THAT LAND WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED FOR. AS A RESIDENT OF OAK CREEK ESTATES, AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLACE ONE THAT COMES FROM THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, YOU KNOW, I'M PROUD AS ALL OF US ON THE DAIS TO REPRESENT ALL THE CITIZENS OF CARROLLTON BUT FOR THE ODD NUMBER OF SEATS THAT ARE UP HERE, THAT WE DO, I KNOW, PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE AREAS IN WHICH WE ALSO RESIDE, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE AT LARGE AS WELL AS DISTRICT. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. MY FAMILY LIVING THERE FOR OVER 15 YEARS. WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT IS THERE.
I'M ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE ZONING THAT'S THERE. THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME. THAT RIDES UP TO AN AREA OF CARROLLTON THAT IS MAINLY SINGLE-FAMILY. I WOULD HATE FOR THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THE SAME ZONING CAPACITY FOR IT I DO NOT THINK THAT IS THE PLAINTIFF NORTHEAST CARROLLTON. I DO NOT SEE LARGE TRUCKS OR WAREHOUSES GO IN.
INAUDIBLE ] I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THE EXISTING ZONING THAT IS THERE TODAY. DEVELOPERS HAVE STEPPED FORWARD TO CHANGE ZONING INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT MORE INTO OUR SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. IT IS MORE ALIGNED TO THE AREA THAT IS THERE. THE PEOPLE THAT RESIDE THERE AND WORK THERE -- I ACTUALLY COMMIT -- JUST LIKE THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MIDWAY -- THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING THERE -- AS WELL AS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE. SO I HAPPEN TO THINK -- AND I DO BELIEVE THAT A ZONING CHANGE IS NEEDED AND I DO BELIEVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS IT IS BEING PROPOSED, ACTUALLY, I WOULD SUPPORT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT ZONING ITSELF AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE AREA. I DO HAVE MESSER -- MASSIVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC. I WISH WE COULD BE ABLE TO GET A BETTER COMMITMENT OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, IT IS NOT A LAND-USE ISSUE, BUT WE CANNOT MAKE THAT PART OF IT. BUT I STRESS TO THE CITY THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY WHEN WE PUT HIGH-VOLUME UNITS INTO AN AREA THAT WHETHER IT WAS PURPOSEFUL OR NOT, STATE LEGISLATURE OR NOT, THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MINDING THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. WHEN I DRIVE OUT INTO MARSH, IN THAT AREA, EVERY SINGLE MORNING, I SEE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC, WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND I HOPE THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT RELATED TO OUR VOTE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MIGHT -- MY LAST POINT -- I'LL MAKE ONE LAST POINT AFTER MY SECOND. IS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT TONIGHT AND VOICING THEIR OPINIONS, AND SO, IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US AS REPRESENTATIVES TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CONCERNS OF OUR -- NOT JUST OUR CONSTITUENCY BUT ALSO THE CITY SO WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT. WE CAN BE ABLE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT AND YOUR FEEDBACK. AND I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NOT AN EMAIL THAT I HAVEN'T READ. THERE IS NOT A FACEBOOK POST I HAVEN'T READ.
THERE IS NOT ANY OF THE COMMUNICATIONS, VOICEMAIL, PHONE CALLS, THAT I DO NOT TAKE 100% SERIOUSLY. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION. WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM UP HERE ON THE DAIS.
I DON'T WANT TO BE LOST THAT I -- AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR ALL OF
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MY COLLEAGUES APPEAR ON THE DAIS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.>> SO, COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM TRENTON. I MIGHT REQUEST -- BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR IT IN YOUR MOTION -- I MIGHT REQUEST WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A STIPULATION TO EXTEND THE REQUIRED EXTENSION ADDING A SUBMISSION TO EXTEND THE RIGHT AND TURN LANE ALONG MARSH.
>> THAT'S FOR ME. >> THAT'S A FAIR POINT. I'M HAPPY TO ADD -- I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF DESIGNING FROM THE DAIS AT ALL, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ADD AS A STIPULATION TO THE MOTION, AS MR. BILLINGSLEY WAS GENEROUSLY OFFERING TO DONATE THAT WENT TO THE CITY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> THE MOTION -- THE MOVEMENT AND THE SECOND AGREES.
>> THAT IS GREAT. >> COUNCIL, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 27 WHICH IS CASE NUMBER LZ 2025-133 IBP
9. ANY DISCUSSION? >> THANK YOU. NOW THAT I HAVE THE FLOOR, WE KNOW THIS IS A LAND-USE CASE. I DON'T HAVE MY MIND MADE UP YET BUT I AM WEIGHING SAFETY AND TRAFFIC.
THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR PRO
TEM ASK BERG -- AXBERG. >> I THINK THIS DIVISION ADDED WAS HUGE BECAUSE BEFORE THAT STABILITY WAS ADDED, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING TRULY BEING ADDRESSED FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT ADJACENT TO THIS LAND USE. I THINK EVEN THAT IN ITSELF, EXTENDING THE RIGHT HAND TURN LANE, AND BEING ABLE TO MONITOR THE SITUATION, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT STIPULATION BUT I HOPE THAT ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
PALACIOS HAD. >> OKAY. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. WE HAD OVER TWO HOURS OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY COMING THROUGH HERE. A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE AND YOUR REVIEW OF ALL THE INFORMATION. AGAIN, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I HAVE NO FURTHER LIGHTS, SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL THE VOTE.
AND THE MOTION PASSES WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AXBERG -- SORRY.
WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS CARPENTER AND FLEMING IN OPPOSITION. ART,
[28. Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Of The City Of Carrollton, Texas Amending Ordinance Number 1470, Otherwise Known As The Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, By Amending Article V. Use Of Land And Structures, Section C. Use Matrix, By Modifying The Zoning Districts Short-Term Rental And Bed And Breakfast Uses May Operate By Right Or By Special Use Permit (SUP) And Repealing Section D. Interim Prohibition On Short-Term Rental And Bed And Breakfast Uses; Repeal And Reserve Article XXI. Special Use Permits, Section D. Special Conditions, 2. Subsection f. Hotel and Transient Lodging; And Amending Article XXXIV. Definitions, Section B. Terms And Definitions Relative To Short-Term Rentals And Bed And Breakfasts. Case No. PLZT 2025-170 CZO Text Amendments - STR and B&B Zoning Amendments.]
COUNCIL, WITH THAT, THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, TEXAS, AMENDING ORDINANCE 1750 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE CONFERENCE OF ZONING ORDINANCE.BY AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE, USE OF LAND AND STRUCTURES, SECTION C, USE METRICS BY MODELING THE ZONING DISTRICT SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND BED AND BREAKFAST USES MAY OPERATE BY RIGHT OR BY SPORTS. SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND REPEALING SECTION D INTERIM PROHIBITION ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND BED AND BREAKFAST USES.
REPEALING RESERVE ARTICLE 21, SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SECTION D, SPECIAL CONDITIONS, TO SECTION C, HOTEL AND TRANSIENT LODGING, AND AMENDING ARTICLE 34, DEFINITION, SECTION B TERMS AND DEFINITIONS RELATIVE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BED AND BREAKFASTS. THIS IS CASE NUMBER PLZT 2025-170 CZO. . MR.
SHAPIRO. >> THIS IS THE TAIL END OF WHAT COUNCIL CONSIDERED EARLIER ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS JUST TO CLEAN UP THE ZONING ORDINANCE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF BACKGROUND IN THIS. FOR 2022, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ZONING REGULATIONS. IT LED TO ADOPTION ORIGINALLY BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2023. BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS, THAT INTERIM PROHIBITION PUT IN PLACE. SO THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, ARE THAT BASICALLY, SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED. IN -- STR ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT AT THIS TIME AT URBAN GENERAL. BED AND BREAKFAST ALSO ALLOWED
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WITH AN SUP WITH SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND OF COURSE THE CURRENT STANDARDS ARE DEFINED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AS WELL.THAT IS KIND OF THE CHART. IT SUMMARIZES WHAT I JUST SAID.
ESSENTIALLY, WE HAD A SERIES OF WORK SESSIONS CULMINATING TO RECEIVING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL IN THE OCTOBER 28TH SESSION.
WHAT STAFF HAS COME BACK WITH, AND IT WAS HER COMMITTED WITH APPROVAL BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY WAS REMOVING THE PROHIBITION SECTION OF ARTICLE FIVE, ADOPTING A PROSPECTIVE BAN ON STRS AND GENTLE NO ONE BUT EXISTING AND LICENSED WANTS WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS LONG AS THEY WERE IN CONFORMANCE WITH CITY GOODS. IT WOULD AMEND ARTICLE 21, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, CURRENTLY HAS THEM BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT SECTION WOULD BE REMOVED AND FINALLY AMENDING THE DEFINITION SECTION TO MATCH UP WITH THE EARLIER REGULATIONS PROPOSED IN THE 97TH TO MATCH UP WITH THOSE DEFINITIONS. THE ORDINANCE
REFLECTS THOSE CHANGES, AS WELL. >> THESE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE.
OBVIOUSLY, THOSE, THIS IS ALLOWING -- THOSE ARE GRANDFATHERED -- ARE ALLOWED, RIGHT? THEY HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS PLACED UPON THEM FOR, LIKE WE DISCUSSED EARLIER IN WE HEARD FROM OUR -- FROM SOME OF THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY EARLIER ABOUT THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SO FORTH. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE. THIS ADDS THE PROHIBITION THAT THE CITY WILL NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER -- ANY NEW NOT CURRENTLY OPERATING STRS
AND B&BS. IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTION FOR MR. SHAPIRO? SEEING NONE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T HAVE A CARD FOR THIS ITEM BUT IF ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION, YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. SEEING THEM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, OTHERWISE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR DAISY PALOMO.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 28.
>> AND TRENTON. I HAVE A MOTION BY DAISY PALOMO AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG TO APPROVE PLZT 2025-170 CZO. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCIL MEMBER AXBERG.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK STAFF AND COUNCIL. THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT MOVE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR CITY. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF PUT IN, ESPECIALLY THE LEGAL TEAM TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND COME UP WITH A THING I THINK IS REALLY BENEFICIAL TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OTHERWISE, I WILL HOLD A VOTE. AND THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL, WITH THAT, THAT ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC FORM. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL FOR ANY MATTER NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS BUT IF ANYONE WISHES TO
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