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          >> ALL RIGHT, WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME. 
          OUR GUESTS OUT HERE. APPRECIATE THE STAFF BEING HERE AND OUR VISITORS. WE WILL CALL OUR WORK SESSION TO ORDER FOR JUNE 9TH. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR MINUTES FROM THE MAY 26TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MINUTES? DRAFT EDITS? CHLOE? NUMBER EIGHT. 
          CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT WITH VERTOSOFT THROUGH THE TIPS AND PAYMENT PROCESSING SERVICES. TO EXPAND PAYMENT PROCESSING -- FOR A REVISED FIVE YEAR TOTAL IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $937,500. VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE. 
          DO EITHER OF YOU WANT TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CUSTOMER 
          EXPERIENCE ENHANCEMENTS? >> WELL, ONE, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO E-CHECK AFTER WE GET THAT SET UP, SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT. IT ALSO WILL GIVE US BACKUPS FOR IN CASE WE HAVE RICH PAY INCIDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          >> I THINK IT IS VERY RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF LIMITATIONS AND OTHER 
          THINGS, SO APPRECIATE YOU ALL -- >> A FREE OPTION. 
          >> THEY LIKE FREE. YOU LIKE FREE TOO, DON'T YOU? 
          >> SO IS THAT WHAT IS DRIVING THE AMENDMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR 
          ITEM? >> TO ADD ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AND 
          HAVE A BACKUP. >> GOTCHA. 
          >> IT SAYS IT ALSO INCREASES THE AGREEMENT AUTHORITY DUE TO... 
          THE EVENT THAT HAPPENED WHERE WE LOST SERVICE, THE RECENT SERVICE DISRUPTION. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE 
          $187,000 WAS DUE TO THAT? >> WE ARE NOT PAYING A FEE OR A FINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT THAT. 
          IT'S THAT WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND HAVING A 
          DIFFERENT COMPANY. >> IT JUST SAYS THE INCREASE IS COVERING COSTS FROM THE RECENT SERVICE DISRUPTIONS. 
          >> BECAUSE WE HAD A WINDOW. WE SWITCHED FROM BRIDGE PAY TO CHASE PAYMENTECH, SO WE HAVE A WINDOW. 
          WE HAVE TO COVER THAT WINDOW, TOO. 
          >> CAN YOU SAY THAT IN SOMETHING I UNDERSTAND? 
          >> SO WE WERE USING BRIDGE PAY AS THE GATEWAY BEFORE. 
          WE SWITCHED TO CHASE PAYMENTECH AS THE GATEWAY. 
          SO THAT WAS A TEMPORARY SERVICE TO SWITCH TO CHASE PAYMENTECH, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPTION TO CONTINUE, SO WE NEED TO 
          INCREASE -- >> SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BOTH? 
          >> WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS. 
          >> REDUNDANCY. >> REDUNDANCY. 
          BUT WE ARE ALSO ADDING THE E-CHECK SERVICE BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED IT. IT IS A FREE SERVICE AND 
          SOMETHING WE DON'T OFFER TODAY. >> I THINK H IS AN OPTION TODAY. 
          >> H, BILL PAY, YEAH. >> PREVIOUSLY, AND THIS IS JUST 
          THE ONE TIME. >> FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN BRIDGE PAY WAS OUT, PEOPLE COULD PAY WITH THE KIOSK, THEY COULD COME BILL PAY, A CH, BUT PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONE TIME THINGS AND A CH IS NOT A ONE-TIME THING. E-CHECK IS A ONE-TIME. 
          >> THE DISRUPTION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT CHANGE 
          FROM ONE SERVICE TO THE OTHER? >> BRIDGE PAY HAD AN OUTAGE. 
          IT WAS USED BY OUR PORTAL PROVIDER, SO WE HAD TO SWITCH TO 
          CHASE PAYMENT CHECK. >> I C. 
          >> AND THIS ALLOWS US TO USE ALL OF THEM. 
          THIS AUTHORIZATION ALLOWS US TO USE ALL THE OPTIONS WE HAVE. 
          >> WE HAVE HAD SO MANY INPUTS ABOUT OUR LIMITATIONS AND OUR FEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. TO ME, THE OPTIONALITY THAT WE PROVIDE AND A FREE SERVICE TO PAY ONLINE VIA ECHECK IS STANDARD IN TODAY'S WORLD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. 
          >> RIGHT. >> OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBE. 
          CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MART INC. PURSUANT TO RFP FOR RECREATION CENTER PURPOSES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $177,430. 
          QUESTIONS? YES, NANCY? 
          >> I'M CURIOUS TO WHAT REFRESHING THE END CLASSROOM IS. 
          NEW CARPET, NEW FURNITURE, ALL OF THE ABOVE? 
          >> GOOD QUESTION. >> PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. 
          IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE ABOVE. 
          NOT SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY SIDE. IT IS NEW FLOORING. 
          >> BECAUSE HOW OLD IS THE SENIOR CENTER NOW? 
          >> THE SENIOR CENTER? I BELIEVE THAT IS A 2003 TYPE 
          BUILD. >> SO IT'S GETTING UP THERE. 
          >> IT IS. >> OKAY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST FURNITURE AND THEN I THOUGHT, MAYBE IT IS 
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          LIKE A WHOLE FACE-LIFT. >> IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF -- BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY DOES OUR REFRESHES, IT IS USUALLY LIKE FOR LIKE. THIS IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO UPGRADE THESE FACILITIES AND GET THEM A LITTLE BETTER. 
          >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> I SEE ON CROSBY RECREATION 
          CENTER, A KITCHEN. >> YES, THAT IS THE KITCHEN IN THE BACK OF THE TREATY ROOM THERE. 
          STILL ABOVE REFRIGERATOR. >> AT THE SENIOR CENTER, THE KITCHEN IS RESERVED SEPARATELY. IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE GOING, OR 
          IS IT STILL PART -- >> NO, IT WILL STILL BE THE NONCOMMERCIAL KITCHEN. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE WHOLE CATERING KITCHEN, BRING THEM IN. FACILITY. 
          >> IN THE WALL PADDING, WHAT DO WE TALK ABOUT THERE? 
          >> THIS IS A CROSBY GYM WHERE WE ARE JUST PICKLEBALL PRETTY MUCH THREE DAYS A WEEK. WE ARE PUTTING ADDITIONAL PADDING ALONG THE ENDS OF EACH PICKLEBALL COURT AND AT THE ENDS OF THE BASKETBALL COURT. WE'VE HAD SOME NEAR INJURIES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS OF PEOPLE JUST PLAYING PICKLEBALL AND COLLIDING WITH PARK SURFACES. 
          >> IT HAPPENS. >> AND WE DO HAVE SIMILAR PADDING ALREADY, SO THIS IS JUST BRINGING IT UP. 
          >> GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU. 
          >> MOVING ON, NUMBER TEN. CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH 3D PAVING AND CONTRACTING LLC FOR THE NOB HILL SECTION TWO STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,332,910. 
          LONG TIME COMING. I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BACKGROUND EMAIL FROM AARON. 
          ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS? 
          YES, SIR. >> I NOTICED TYPICALLY ON THESE TYPES OF CONTRACT WE DO WITH 3% CONTINGENCY. 
          >> THIS ONE IS HIGHER. >> THE 10%. 
          >> NORMALLY 2-5 BUT IF YOU RECALL THERE IS A LOT OF WALLS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND A LOT OF UNKNOWNS, SO 10% WOULD BE JUSTIFIED ON THIS ONE PROJECT BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE 
          MORE RISK. >> RISK. 
          >> YOU'LL RECALL, YOU'VE GOT WAIVERS SIGNED BY X NUMBER OF -- NOT EVERYONE SIGNED IT BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE ON. 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> LAST TIME WE PRESENTED WE HAD 20 STILL OUTSTANDING AND WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL TWO THAT SIGNED THE WAIVERS. STILL TO START IN JULY 21ST, MOVED IN THERE, AS WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS. 
          >> DEFINITELY IN NEED. THOSE ROADS ARE HORRIBLE. 
          >> I'M EXCITED TO SEE THERE WERE 11 BIDDERS. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. AND I'M EVEN MORE HAPPY TO SEE A PAIR OF LOW BIDDER WAS THE ONE THAT SAID A PREVIOUS DIFFICULT LOOK OUT THERE SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN AND A GOOD OMEN, HOPEFULLY. 
          >> THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION. OUT OF 11 BIDDERS, THE LEAST, WHAT'S... WHAT MADE THAT ONE MORE ATTRACTIVE? OFTENTIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS GO 
          WITH THE LOWEST BIDDER, RIGHT? >> THEY HAVE GOOD REFERENCES, THEY DID GOOD WORK FOR US AND THEY DID THE PREVIOUS TWO SECTIONS AND DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. 
          JUST A REALLY GOOD COINCIDENCE THAT ALL OF THEM CAME TOGETHER 
          IN THE SAME VENDOR. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. AGAIN, I KNOW RESIDENTS WILL BE THRILLED, IT WILL BE A MESS IN THE MEANTIME, BUT WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON, BUT IT WILL BE NICE. 
          NUMBER 11, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF A PORTION OF FANNIDELLA DRIVE THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 0.0732 ACRES OF RIGHT OF WAY AND DESCRIBED AND DEPICTED ON EXHIBIT A, RETAINING ALL RIGHTS TO AND IN THE REMAINING PORTION OF ANY RIGHT OF WAY SHOWN ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAT, PROVIDING FOR THE CONVEYANCE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY UPON DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR A HIKE AND BIKE TR TRAIL. 
          A LOT OF LEGALESE IN THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS REALLY JUST ALONG THE BACK END OF WHAT USED TO BE FANNIDELLA APARTMENTS. LISA, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT ONE 
          FROM YOUR FIRST TERM. >> YES. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. 
          NUMBER 12. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RATIFYING A MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. 
          THIS IS WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? 
          >> YES, IT SHOULD BE. >> THIS IS WRITTEN IN, THIS IS ONE COUNCIL RATIFIES, BUT WE DON'T APPOINT. 
          THIS IS APPOINTED BY STAFF. SO COREY BRANCH HAS BEEN SELECTED BY STAFF TO FILL THIS. ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> YEAH, I GOT A QUESTION. REGARDING HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE ON THIS CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION? 
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HOW DO WE DECIDE WHO GETS APPOINTED THERE? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY MET IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS? 
          >> YES, SO CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION CONSISTS OF THREE MEMBERS, AND HOW THE PEOPLE ARE APPOINTED IS THROUGH THE COMMISSION PROCESS, THEY CAN APPLY TO SERVE ON THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION AND STAFF ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE ABILITY TO POINT THEM TO A BOARD, TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, I SHOULD SAY APPEARED AS FOR THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT NUMBER. 
          I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP AND GIVE IT TO YOU. 
          >> AS NEEDED. IF THERE IS AN APPEAL TO A TEST, THEY HEAR APPEALS TO TEST AND THEN THEY CAN HEAR, BUT IT IS 
          RARE. >> WHAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND ARE WE LOOKING FOR FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVE ON THAT COMMISSION? 
          >> NEUTRAL. NEUTRAL. 
          JUST NONPOLITICAL APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE CITIZENS THAT HAVE AN INTEREST. THEY DON'T NEED A PARTICULAR SKILL SET. THEY JUST NEED TO BE OPEN AND 
          OBJECTIVE. >> AND A TERM LIMIT? 
          >> I THINK A THREE YEAR TERM. >> SAME AS THE REST OF OUR 
          BOARDS. >> A THREE YEAR TERM. 
          THAT'S IT. >> OF COURSE THESE PEOPLE DO APPLY DURING THE OPEN WINDOW EVERY YEAR. 
          SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR ALL OF THE RESUMES. 
          >> HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT IS OPEN? I'VE NEVER SEEN IT POSTED TO A VOTE. 
          >> THIS ONE WAS A VACANCY. KELLY PELKEY MOVED OUT, SO THERE WAS A VACANCY. WE DON'T ASSIGN THOSE. 
          WE JUST RATIFY THEM. THERE IS NOT AN ALTERNATE. 
          GIVEN THE FACT THERE IS NO ALTERNATE STAFF HAS -- 
          >> FROM THE PREVIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENT, WE PULLED THE ONES THAT WERE NOT ON A BOARD AND HAD ALSO APPLIED FOR A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION SEAT. THERE WAS THREE. 
          STAFF CHOSE COREY BRANCH AND CONFIRMED THEY ARE STILL INTERESTED IN SERVING, AND THEY ARE. 
          >> GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, SURPRISED THERE IS NOT AN ALTERNATE, SOMEBODY IN THE WINGS WHO CAN KIND OF WATCH AND ANTICIPATE. 
          >> WE HAVE ALREADY DONE A TRAINING. 
          IT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED YET. MAY BE THURSDAY. 
          MADE SURE THEY HAD THE TRAINING. PRETTY MUCH ANNUALLY THAT AN ATTORNEY COMES IN AND ADVISES THEM THROUGH THE TRAINING PROCESS, THE CITIZEN ATTORNEYS OFFICE WORKS WITH THE STAFF. 
          >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          >> SO WE WILL BE APPOINTING IT AGAIN IN OCTOBER 2026? 
          THAT'S WHAT I SEE? >> THAT IS ACCURATE. 
          WHEN WE FILL A VACANCY, THEY JUST FINISH OUT THE PERSON THEY ARE FILLING THE VACANCY FOR'S TERM. 
          SO KELLY PELKEY WAS UP TO BE UP IN OCTOBER, SO THIS PERSON WILL SERVE UNTIL OCTOBER. AND THEN WE WILL REDISCUSS AT 
          THAT TIME. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 13. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER OF COMPENSATION FROM THE DENTON COUNTY FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY HELD IN TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON, DENTON COUNTY, AND LEWISVILLE ISD RELATED TO THE OAK CREEK TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? >> EXCUSE ME, 4.6 ACRES, WE ARE ASKING -- SORRY, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE WHOLE THING AND NOT JUST WHAT'S NEEDED BY OAK CREEK TENNIS CENTER? 
          >> IT WOULD HAVE TO -- WE WOULD HAVE TO CONVEY OWNERSHIP OF THE 
          ENTIRE PARCEL. >> EVEN IF WE ONLY NEED A 
          PORTION OF IT. >> YES. 
          SUBDIVIDED. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> IT WAS SUBDIVIDED TO BEGIN WITH,. 
          >> WHATEVER THE PARCEL SIZE THAT IS BEING HELD IN TRUST. 
          >> SO CURRENTLY THAT PARCEL IS NOT RUN BY THE CITY? 
          >> IT'S NOT. IT'S HELD IN TRUST BECAUSE NOBODY BOUGHT IT THIS YEAR AND IT WAS STRUCK OFF TO THE CITY -- [INDISTINCT] YES, WE WOULD MOW IT JUST BECAUSE IT IS NOT PART DIANA HAS A LIST OF GENERALLY THE ONES 
          THAT ARE STRUCK -- >> NOT MANY ARE STRUCK OFF TO US. IT IS LIKE 30 YEARS IT WAS STRUCK OFF, IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. 
          >> DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THE PARCEL ITSELF? 
          NO? >> A CAR WASH? 
          [LAUGHTER] >> BUT THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS WHOLE AREA UP HERE IS ULTIMATELY WHERE STATION 4 GETS RELOCATED, SO THIS IS LARGELY KIND OF A PARCEL OF CITY INTEREST VERSUS PUTTING SOMETHING RIGHT NEXT TO IT. 
          >> SO I'M ASSUMING KIND OF THE HAIRPIN LOOKING PARKING WILL JUST CONTINUE AROUND? WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE A WHOLE 
          LOT OF THE TRACT FOR PARKING? >> JONATHAN, DIRECTOR OF 
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ENGINEERING. CORRECT, IT WILL CLOSE THE LOOP. 
          >> NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ENCROACHMENT. 
          YOU JUST NEED A SLICE OF THAT. AND THEN THIS IS FROM DENTON COUNTY. IS LISD GOING TO RELEASE THEIRS? 
          THEIR OWNERSHIP? >> LISD HAS NOT REQUESTED. 
          THIS IS GOING TO PUT IT FOR THE MAYOR TO SIGN A LETTER REQUESTING IT GO TO THE REPORT HEARING. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THEM TO REVIEW IT TO DETERMINE. 
          LISD HASN'T INDICATED THEY NEED A CIVIL ORDER. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I SAY WE NEED ALL THREE TO 
          AGREE. >> CORRECT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD LUCK. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON... 
          NUMBER 14. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO FUND CONSTRUCTION OF A SHARED USE TRAIL IN BRYCE PARK. THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE REGION. THIS TAKES US TO LEWISVILLE LINE AND THEN LEWISVILLE WILL PICK IT UP FROM HERE. 
          THIS IS A GRANT -- THIS IS FUNDED BY GRANT. 
          >> OUR PORTION IS FUNDED BY GRANT? I THOUGHT WE ARE PAYING THIS AND THEN THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 
          GRANT. >> THERE IS A $10 MILLION GRANT. 
          WE WILL BE PAYING $2.5 MILLION. SO THE TOTAL PROJECT IS 
          $12.5 MILLION. >> SO WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR -- 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND WE HAD BOND MONEY ON THIS 
          BACK IN THE 2018 BOND, AS WELL. >> SO WE ARE SPENDING BOND MONEY 
          FOR THIS? >> I WILL LET -- 
          >> WE ARE NOT -- I WILL LET T THEM. 
          >> DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. YES, FOR OUR MAGIC PORTION THERE IS BOND FUNDING AVAILABLE. THERE IS ALSO A VERY SMALL TRANSPORTATION CREDIT APPLYING TO OUR LOCAL, 228,000, I THINK. 
          THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN OUR $2.5 MILLION BUCKET. 
          >> WHO HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR BUILDING THE TRAIL? 
          WE DO? >> SO WE HAVE IT UNDER DESIGN. 
          CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN ENGINEERING CALL, WE TOOK A DESIGN CONTRACT, PREVIOUSLY, SO IT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN ONCE IT GETS FINISHED, WE WILL TAKE IT OUT TO CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT FOR THAT FUNDING. 
          I BELIEVE IT HAS BY 2028, THE END OF THAT FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE ARE WELL AHEAD OF THE CURVE. >> WHEN WILL THE $10 MILLION BE RELEASED TO US? DO WE KNOW? 
          >> IT WILL BE REIMBURSABLE. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH ANOTHER TRAIL PROJECT RIGHT NOW, SO WE PAY IT AND THEN SEND IT OFF TO TXDOT AND THEY SEND US A CHECK BACK. 
          AFTER THEY REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS GOOD. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. 
          NUMBER 15. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX WITH WALTER P. MOORE AND ASSOCIATES FOR THE CITY WIDE FLOOD MAPPING STUDY BY AN AMOUNT OF $36,700 FOR AN ADJUSTED TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $1,070,372.05. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? 
          I'M SORRY CAN'T GO AHEAD. >> REFERENCES THE LEVEE SYSTEM. 
          IS THAT IMPROVEMENTS, OR IS THERE ANOTHER LEVEE SYSTEM? 
          >> JOHN, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. 
          THIS DOES INCLUDE THE BALL WOULD, BUT IT IS ALSO MORE THAN THAT. IT IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE 
          BRANCH. >> SO HAS OTHER LEVEES? 
          >> THE LEVEES ARE SPECIFICALLY -- 
          >> THEY ARE -- >> THIS USES LENGTH FOR THE 
          SYSTEM. >> OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. >> DIDN'T WE JUST HAVE A STUDY 
          WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS? >> YEAH, THAT'S THE BALANCE OF THE 1,000,070. THIS IS -- 
          >> THE FINAL ONE. >> AND HOW LONG ARE THESE 
          STUDIES SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD FOR? >> WE TYPICALLY UPDATE OURS EVERY 15 YEARS. THIS ONE HAS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER, GIVEN SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS HAPPENED, AND COVID HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES OVER AT FEMA WITH GETTING REVIEWS DONE, SO THIS IS OUR FINAL UPDATE FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          >> WE ARE AT FEMA'S MERCY ON THIS. 
          >> AND WE WILL GET A FINAL UPDATE WHEN IT IS ALL DONE? 
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          >> AS SOON AS WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, WE WILL GIVE YOU A FINAL UPDATE, ESPECIALLY REGARDING THIS SPECIFIC ONE SINCE IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS STILL CHANGING. 
          >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF CREEKS THAT ARE NOT EVEN MAPPED BY FEMA, AND ALSO FEMA ONLY IS FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES, SO ONLY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED, SO NEW THINGS OCCURRING IN THE WATERSHED HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED AND NOT ANTICIPATED HERE. 
          IT'S JUST INSURANCE MAPS. FOR PEOPLE BUYING HOUSES AND 
          SELLING PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO NUMBER 16. 
          RATIFICATION OF EMERGENCY REPAIRS BY LONE STAR CONTRACTORS TO THE I-35 AND LUNA BRIDGE ROAD TRANSMISSION LINE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $263,500. WORK THAT TOOK PLACE UNDER THAT 
          THOROUGHFARE APPEARED. >> , MAYOR, A 3-INCH HOLE IS PRETTY BIG. IS THERE ANY CHANCE A CONTRACTOR 
          CAUSED IT. >> WE DON'T KNOW. 
          >> IT IS DEAD CENTER UNDER THE MAIN LANE SOUTHBOUND SO WE COULDN'T EXECUTE SO THE REPAIR HAD TO BE DONE FROM THE INSIDE. 
          NO WAY OF DETERMINING. >> NO AUTOPSY. 
          >> WE DON'T KNOW. >> JUST HAD TO BE REPAIRED AND IT WAS EMERGENCY SO YOU WENT AHEAD AND DID IT. 
          >> THERE WAS A BIG WATER LEAK. >> YEAH. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS. ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IN HERE? OTHERWISE WE WILL TAKE THEM ALL FROM THE DAIS. 
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THAT TAKES US BACK TO OUR WORK SESSION. 
          WE'VE GOT AN UPDATE AND FUNDING REQUEST FROM THE CHILDREN'S 
          ADVOCACY CENTER OF NORTH TEXAS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I AM SO DELIGHTED TO SEE ALL OF YOU. 
          THE CEO OF CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER. 
          I'M HERE FOR MY ANNUAL VISIT WITH YOU ALL. 
          MOST OF YOU HAVE HEARD ALL OF THIS. 
          ABOUT WHO WE ARE. SO FORGIVE ME IF I DO A LITTLE BIT OF THE BASICS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS COVER THAT BUT I ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU WHO WE SERVED LAST YEAR AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO PARTNER. 
          FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I HAVE GIVEN THIS PRESENTATION A TIME OR TWO. 
          USUALLY I GIVE IT IN APRIL, I WAS TELLING YOU THAT, BUT AS IT IS, WE MADE IT THROUGH CHILD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH. 
          YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER RESPONDS TO CRIMES AGAINST KIDS WITH A PLACE THAT PEOPLE GO WHEN A CRIME IS ALLEGED. THOSE CRIMES ARE CRIMES THAT CAN HAPPEN IN ANY KIND OF FAMILY, BUT SPECIFICALLY THEY ARE CRIMES OF SEXUAL ABUSE, PHYSICAL ABUSE, CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING. 
          WE ARE ALSO THE PLACE KIDS GO WHEN SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAS HAPPENED THAT THEY HAVE WITNESSED, SO SOMEBODY IN THEIR FAMILY POTENTIALLY A PARENT HAS KILLED ANOTHER PARENT AND THEN KIDS HAVE WATCHED IT. WE ARE THE PLACE THAT A FAMILY COMES WHEN SOMEONE ELSE'S CRIME HAS CHANGED THE COURSE OF THEIR CHILD'S LIFE. THAT'S NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH OUR FRIENDS AT CASA WHO SERVE KIDS WHO ARE IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. THAT'S PIECE OF THE CHILD ABUSE SPECTRUM, BUT OURS IS MUCH LARGER AND CAN HAPPEN TO A WIDER SWATH OF THE COMMUNITY. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S THE SINGLE ONE-STOP SHOP THAT A FAMILY GOES TO WHEN SOMETHING BAD EMERGES. 
          WE ARE THE PLACE, A NEUTRAL PLACE WHERE AN INVESTIGATION BEGINS TO TAKE PLACE. FOR MANY OF OUR KIDS, THEY NEVER MAKE AN OUTCRY, AND THAT'S THE END OF IT, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY WENT TO A TRAUMA-INFORMED, CHILD-FRIENDLY PLACE TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT, WHATEVER IT WAS, AND THE INVESTIGATION DIDN'T SCARE THEM. FOR MANY KIDS, THAT IS THE PLACE THEY MAKE AN OUTCRY OF ABUSE, AND THEY GET ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THEIR FAMILY AND FOR THEMSELVES TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER, MENTALLY AND MEDICALLY, AFTER THIS TYPE OF CRIME HAPPENS. IT'S ALSO A PLACE WHERE INVESTIGATORS ALL MEET AND THEY WORK OUT OF TO BRING A CASE, A PURSUANT CASE COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH INVESTIGATION TO JUSTICE. OF COURSE WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH CAROL CBD, ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PARTNERS, THEY WOULD TELL YOU THEY ARE THE FAVORITE BUT WE ARE VERY CLOSE WITH THAT TEAM. THEY SPLIT TIME BETWEEN US AND DALLAS ADVOCACY CENTER. THE MAJORITY OF THEIR KIDS END UP COMING THROUGH OUR COUNSELING CENTER, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE DALLAS CENTER FOR INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR YOUR RESIDENCIES HERE. 
          YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING US FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. 
          AND WE HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 187 CHILDREN EACH YEAR COMING FROM THIS PARTICULAR JURISDICTION, SO A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF KIDDOS 
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WHO COME THROUGH. THIS BIG RESPONSE IS IMPORTANT IN DENTON COUNTY, IT'S IMPORTANT IN DALLAS COUNTY, BUT IT WASN'T CREATED BY EITHER OF US, IT'S A STATEWIDE AND NATIONAL RESPONSE TO KIDS EVERY KID WHO HAS A CRIME COMMITTED AGAINST THEM HAS THEIR RIGHT TO GO TO AN ADVOCACY CENTER. 
          IT'S THE LAW IN TEXAS. LIKE SO MANY OF OUR WONDERFUL LAWS, THAT LEAVES IT TO THE REST OF US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK, BUT THE COOL THING IS THEY SAID WE ARE GOING TO CUT THROUGH ALL THE RED TAPE THAT HAPPENS WHEN MULTIPLE SYSTEMS COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON CHILD CRIME. 
          WE CUT THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND MAKE SURE A KID GETS WHAT THEY NEED FASTEST AND IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T REVICTIMIZE THEM, SO HONESTLY I WOULD SAY IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PIECES OF LEGISLATION, REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE IT WORK. SO THAT IS WHY WE COME AND TELL OUR STORY TO PEOPLE SO THAT WE CAN RAISE THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1997, BUT IT IS THE LAW IN TEXAS. 
          IN THE LAST YEAR, WE SAW 65% OF OUR CASES WERE SEXUAL ABUSE, ANOTHER 22% WERE PHYSICAL ABUSE. WE SERVE THOSE FELONY-LEVEL PHYSICAL ABUSE CASES, SO THIS IS NOT A LOWER LEVEL PHYSICAL ABUSE ALLEGATION. THESE ARE YOUR CHILD INJURIES THAT RESULT IN EITHER DEATH OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY. 
          THAT'S A FELONY-LEVEL PHYSICAL ABUSE. 
          YOU SEE OUR CHILD FATALITIES, CHILD WITNESS AND NEGLECT ARE MUCH SMALLER PORTION OF THE CASES, BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS, WE ARE ALWAYS PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE. 
          THE MAJORITY, ALL KIDS, 0-18, ARE ELIGIBLE TO COME TO THE OFFICES, AS ARE ADULTS WHO HAVE A DISABILITY THAT WOULD IMPAIR THEIR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE AND MAKE THEM SCARED TO GO TO A POLICE STATION, NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION COMMUNICATED CLEARLY, SO THEY ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE WHO COME IN ARE KIDS, AND THE LARGE MAJORITY, 78%, ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 13, SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY REMARKABLE STAT EVERY YEAR. YOU ALL KNOW THIS FROM MY TIME HERE. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN BY STRANGERS. AND YET PROBABLY EVERY ONE OF US AS A PARENT HAS CLUTCHED OUR CHILD NEXT TO A STRANGER AND SAID BE CAREFUL OF FRIENDLY STRANGERS COME IT'S ACTUALLY PEOPLE THEY KNOW WHO HAVE BUILT TRUST WITH THE PARENT AND HAVE BETRAYED THAT TRUST THAT ARE OFTEN THE PEOPLE WHO HURT KIDS. 
          99% OF OUR KIDS. I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THESE STATS. IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT IT TELLS YOU PRETTY CLEARLY SOME OF THE IMPORTANT FACTS. 
          3000 KIDS WALK THROUGH OUR DOORS EVERY YEAR, OKAY, SO THAT IS NINE NEW KIDS A DAY. THEY ARE, AN ALLEGATION OF ABUSE HAS BEEN OPENED TO AN INVESTIGATOR. 
          ABOUT 60% OF THOSE WILL REPORT THAT ALLEGATION IS BEING FACTUAL, IS BEING TRUE, THEY WILL MAKE AN OUTCRY. 
          WE WILL CONDUCT ABOUT 1200 TO 1500 INTERVIEWS, AND OF THOSE 60%, MAKE AN OUTCRY, THAT MEANS ABOUT 1000 KIDS LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS 990 OR SOMETHING, SHOWED UP FOR THERAPY SESSIONS. 
          WE PROVIDED JUST UNDER 10,000 HOURS OF THERAPY, AND 78% SAID THEY GET BETTER WITHIN TEN SESSIONS. 
          WE DO A STANDARDIZED ASSESSMENT. OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE THAT NEUTRAL PLACE FOR A KID TO TELL THEIR STORY, THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE PROVIDE SERVICES, AND IF WE PROVIDE SERVICES, THEY GET BETTER BECAUSE OF THOSE, AND THIS SLIDE, WITH ALL THAT DATA, TELLS YOU ALL THOSE PIECES OF IT. 
          I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT NINE NEW KIDS A DAY DON'T HAVE A PROSECUTION OF ABUSE. 
          THIS IS JUST THAT ALLEGATION HAS EMERGED. 
          WE'VE GOT A REALLY LARGE CHILD AND ADOLESCENT MENTAL HEALTH CLINIC THAT WE ARE RUNNING FOR THESE KIDS OF ABUSE. 
          WHEN THIS TYPE OF ABUSE HAPPENS, I TELL YOU IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORST OUTCOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO STOPPING IT AND GETTING KIDS THE HEALING SERVICES IS CRUCIAL. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A STAFF OF 14 CLINICIANS AND ANOTHER TEN INTERNS AT ANY GIVEN TIME, SO WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST ADOLESCENT MENTAL HEALTH, CHILD AND ADOLESCENT MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE GOT 98 KIDS ON OUR WAIT-LIST. WE GRIEVE THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL EACH FAMILY IT WILL BE A BIT BEFORE WE CAN SERVE YOU. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO WAIT ON FORENSIC INTERVIEWS. AS SOON AS YOUR DETECTIVES NEED THAT, THEY ARE ABLE TO BE SERVED, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THEM INTO THOSE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT WE HAVE A DELAY ON. WE ARE WORKING ON A LOT OF WAYS TO MAKE THAT GO SMOOTHER AND FASTER BUT AT ANY GIVEN POINT WE HAVE 25 NEW REFERRALS COMING IN EVERY WEEK, SO IT'S A PRETTY HIGH VOLUME CENTER. WE KNOW THE WEEKS SURROUNDING AN OUTCRY ARE SUPER IMPORTANT. ABOUT A THIRD OF KIDS, ACCORDING TO THE RESEARCH IN THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER 
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MOVEMENT, WILL HAVE A SUICIDAL IDEATION WITHIN THE TWO WEEKS FOLLOWING AN OUTCRY, SO IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT TIME TO WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND KIDS AND MAKE THEM FEEL THAT THEY ARE NOT ALONE THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTED. WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH OTHER WAYS OUTSIDE OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BY MAKING SURE OUR FAMILY ADVOCATES ARE ALSO REALLY CLOSE TO THE FAMILY, MAKING SURE THEY DON'T FEEL ALONE. WHILE THERE IS A WAIT-LIST, WE ARE ALSO WORKING TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THIS IS A TIME THEY ARE WITH EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. I ALREADY MENTIONED THIS, 78% OF OUR KIDS HAVE A DECREASE IN TRAUMA SYMPTOMS. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS WE DO A SURVEY WITH OUR KIDS WITH OUR PARENTS, WE DO IT AT THE BEGINNING OF SERVICES, WE DO THEM MIDWAY THROUGH SERVICES, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT KIDS AS THEY GO THROUGH A REALLY TOUGH INVESTIGATION. 
          FOR FAMILIES, IT IS AN ENORMOUS CRISIS PERIOD. 
          SO YOU KNOW, MOST OUTCRIES OF ABUSE ARE DELAYED. 
          SO KIDS HAVE BEEN CARRYING A SECRET FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND PARENTS ARE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE OUR KIDS WALK IN READY TO SHARE IT AND ACTUALLY FEEL BETTER BECAUSE OF IT. 
          OUR PARENTS ARE KIND OF THRUST INTO CRISIS AT THAT POINT. 
          LIKE WHOA, I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS GOING ON. 
          AM I TO BLAME? IT IS A VERY STRESSFUL TIME FOR FAMILIES. EVEN WITH THAT SAID, 100% OF OUR CLIENTS SAY THINGS LIKE YOU GUYS MADE ME FEEL NICE, YOU MADE ME FEEL WELCOME, EVERYTHING HERE WAS INTENTIONAL. 
          THEY DISARMED THE FEAR THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THIS. 
          YOU MADE MY KIDS FEEL SAFE AND HEARD. 
          BOTTOM LINE, 100% OF OUR PEOPLE WHO WALK IN OUR DOORS FEEL THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS WRAPPED AROUND THEM AT A TIME THAT IS VERY PRIVATE AND ISOLATING AND IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT TIME TO NOT FUMBLE THE BALL AND BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WE DO NOT FUMBLE THE BALL AND IT IS SOMETHING FOR ALL OF US TO BE PROUD OF. OUR REQUEST THIS YEAR, WE COME IN AND ASK FOR A TON OF MONEY. I KNOW IT IS TRUE. 
          AND YET I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF WE DON'T PROVIDE THIS SERVICE AT THIS POINT, IT GETS VASTLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO SERVE A KID WHO HAS BEEN HURT, WHO HAS NOT BEEN PREPARED. 
          WITH THOSE KIDS WHO ARE HURTING, THEY GO ON TO HURT THEMSELVES, THEY GO ON TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE. THEY BECOME DANGEROUS FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TEAMS. THEY BECOME DANGEROUS IN OUR SCHOOLS. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TIME TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT FOR THEM. 
          AND SO OUR REQUEST IS A LOT, AND YET I WOULD ARGUE IT IS THE CHEAPEST, MOST ECONOMICAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. 
          OUR THREE YEAR, WE HAVE TAKEN A THREE YEAR AVERAGE. 
          WE HAVE SEEN, BECAUSE OF SOME LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, QUITE A SPIKE AND A VALLEY AND AN UP AND A DOWN, IN THE WAY REPORTS ARE PICKED UP, SO THE PIPELINE OF REPORTS, HALFWAY TO REPORTS, SOME LEGISLATIVE. I DON'T THINK WE SOLVED THE PROBLEM OF ABUSE, WE SAW A 10% DECREASE AND A 10% -- I THINK THAT IS MORE BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM CHANGES AND WE HAVE TO WORK IN BIG SYSTEMS, SO WE HAVE MOVED TO A THREE YEAR LOOK. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO 
          SAY -- >> EBBS AND FLOWS. 
          >> WE MANAGE THE EBBS AND FLOWS. WE ANTICIPATE SERVING ABOUT ANOTHER 167 KIDS THIS YEAR. OUR AVERAGE COST PER CHILD IS $3000 PER CHILD, SO THAT COST IS ABOUT $485,000 TO SERVE RESIDENTS OF CARROLLTON, FROM A FULL ARRAY OF SERVICES, FROM INTAKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH PROSECUTION. 
          THAT COST $485,000. WE ASK OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO PAY 20% OF THAT COST. IF YOU DO YOUR FAIR SHARE, I WILL FIND THE OTHER 80%, IS WHAT WE SORT OF HOPE AND PRAY OUR PROMISE IS. WE ARE ALL WORKING ON MONEY, BUT WE ARE RAISING FROM THE COMMUNITY, SO WE DO OUR BEST. 
          THIS HAS WORKED AS A PARTNERSHIP FOR MANY YEARS IN THIS WAY, SO I'M ASKING FOR THAT AGAIN. MAYBE THAT WAS LAST YEAR. 
          SO THIS YEAR ANTICIPATE $142,000, IT WILL COST $485,000, AND THIS IS TO SUPPORT 100% OF THE KIDS THAT HAVE AN OPEN INVESTIGATION AND PROVIDE THE NECESSARY SERVICES. 
          IT COST $0 FOR OUR KIDS AND FAMILIES. 
          IT COST US ABOUT $3000. AND THEN I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY ALL THESE IMPORTANT, IN FINE TYPE AT THE BOTTOM OF A CONTRACT, YOU GET IT. IT IS OUR ANNUAL REQUEST. 
          WE ARE REALLY THRILLED TO BE HERE. 
          WE NEED YOU. WE ARE PROUD TO BE PARTNERS WITH YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> AND YOU ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO, SOME OF US HAVE HAD TO AND SOME OF US ARE NOT, BUT YOU ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO HAVE TOURS? 
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          >> I THINK IT MAKES IT COME ALIVE FOR YOU. 
          EVERY SINGLE REPORT OF ABUSE IN THIS CITY IS REPORTED THROUGH OUR PARTNER RELATIONS TEAM, IMMEDIATELY PICK UP THE PHONE AND OUR COORDINATING YOU OUR TEAM AND OUR TEAM ARE JOINED AT THE HIP, MAKING SURE THAT NO CHILD FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS. 
          THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FEELING, WHEN YOU SEE IT IN ACTION, I THINK MANY, IT'S REALLY POWERFUL, YOU CAN SEE HOW BEAUTIFULLY APPOINTED THIS PLACE IS, HOW CHILD FRIENDLY IT IS, HOW INTENTIONAL IT IS, AND THAT MATTERS TO ALL KIDS AND FAMILIES. THIS IS NOT A TIME TO FUMBLE THE 
          BALL AND WE DON'T. >> I'M JUST ASKING, NOT FOR THE BUDGET, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION, BUT IN TERMS OF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST OF SETTING A TOUR UP, SHOW OF HANDS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE PART OF THE NEXT TOUR, YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT, WHICH IS FINE. WE HAVE A COUPLE, YOU CAN JUST 
          ARRANGE THAT. >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE SERVICE LEVEL. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS ALSO WORK WITH THE KIDS WHO ARE IN NEED THAT ARE IN 
          DALLAS COUNTY? >> WE OKAY, SO WHEN A CHILD HAS A CRIME COMMITTED AGAINST THEM, THEY WILL GO TO THE D.A.'S OFFICE WHERE THAT CRIMINAL ALLEGATION WILL BE FILED, SO IF THE CRIME HAPPENS ON THE DALLAS SIDE, THEY WILL BE FORENSICALLY INTERVIEWED ON THE DALLAS SIDE, BUT OFTEN THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT FOLLOW IT ARE EASIER FOR OUR KIDS TO BE SERVED HERE AT OUR OFFICE THAN GOING ALL THE WAY OVER BY FAIR PARK WHICH IS WHERE THE DALLAS ADVOCACY CENTER IS. 
          WE GET MORE THAN OUR FAIR SHARE OF CARROLLTON CASES ARE EVEN FORENSICALLY INTERVIEWED IN DENTON. 
          EVEN ON THE DALLAS SIDE. BUT A VERY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF DALLAS COUNTY KIDS GET THEIR ABUSE SERVICES IN DENTON COUNTY. 
          WE PROVIDE THAT. WE ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY NEUTRAL. 
          WHATEVER IS EASIEST FOR THE KID IS OUR JOB. 
          SO WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS ASKED ON THAT OTHER THAN IT DOES HAVE TO 
          BE AN OPEN INVESTIGATION. >> SO GREAT PRESENTATION AND REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY HAVE DONE. 
          SEVERAL OF YOUR EVENTS, AND OF COURSE, YOUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER. IT'S ABSOLUTELY MAGIC, WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES. IT IS VERY WELL RUN. 
          SO THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO ASK. WHAT IS THE AVENUE FOR A CHILD TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT AND ENGAGE YOU HI ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SHOWED THAT 13 AND UNDER NUMBER IS PRETTY STAGGERING. 
          AND ESPECIALLY THE NUMBER OF KIDS THAT YOU ARE SERVING. 
          WHERE DO YOU FIND MOST OF YOUR KIDS REACH OUT THROUGH? IS IT THROUGH A FRIEND OR A PARENT OR AN ADULT, OR ARE THEY COMING DIRECTLY TO YOU? WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR 
          ENGAGEMENT? >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          WE ONLY SERVE KIDS WHO HAVE AN OPEN INVESTIGATION. 
          80% OF THE OPEN INVESTIGATIONS COME FROM A PROFESSIONAL REPORTER, SO IT TENDS TO BE YOUR COUNSELORS, YOUR TEACHERS, OR YOUR PRIMARY AVENUE FOR REPORTING. 
          HONESTLY, BETWEEN YOU AND ME, IT TAKES TWO MIRACLES FOR ANY KID TO WALK OUT OUR DOOR. THEY HAVE TO HAVE TOLD AN ADULT, AND THAT ADULT HAS TO HAVE TOLD THE AUTHORITIES. 
          THAT'S A MIRACLE. AS YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT CASES, YOU FIND OH, THIS ADULT FUMBLED THE BALL, THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYONE. OH, THIS ADULT HID IT AND ACTUALLY KEPT IT FROM GETTING THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE TEACHER OR THE COACH DIDN'T TELL THEIR BOSS. 
          THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO FAIL KIDS IS BIGGER THAN YOU AND I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH. I'M DISAPPOINTED IN IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. BY THE TIME A KID GETS TO US, IT IS A MIRACLE. THEY HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THINGS. 
          THEY HAD SOMEBODY WHO LISTENED TO THEM AND SOMEBODY WHO SAID I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A REPORT. 
          THAT'S ALL IT TAKES IS THAT OPEN REPORT. 
          THEN THEY COME IN. FOR MOST KIDS, THEIR FIRST STEP IS THE FORENSIC INTERVIEW. IT'S THEIR CHANCE TO TELL, DID ANYTHING HAPPEN TO YOU? YEAH ACTUALLY IT DID. 
          WHAT IS IT? THEN WE GET THAT STATEMENT THERE. OR THIS IS A MISUNDERSTANDING, I SAID THAT ON THE PLAYGROUND BUT IT WASN'T A THING. 
          AND THAT ALSO HAPPENS. OR I SAW BRUISES ON A CHILD WHO CAME TO SCHOOL, SO I AM A PROFESSIONAL REPORTER MAKING THAT REPORT ABOUT BRUISES ON A CHILD, BUT IT TURNS OUT THERE WAS AN EASY EXPLANATION THAT MADE SENSE. 
          THOSE THINGS ARE THE TYPES OF INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE OPENED. 
          THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN COME IN IS THROUGH THAT INVESTIGATION. 
          >> THAT'S HELPFUL. >> TO ME, ONE OF THE PROMISES THAT THAT MEANS, THOUGH, IS THAT EVERY SINGLE KID WHO HAS GOTTEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL SOMEONE GETS THAT FULL ARRAY OF SERVICES, AND THAT IS THE PROMISE. 
          THERE AREN'T, WE ARE NOT SWALLOWED UP BY THE NOISE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF, BUT IT WASN'T QUITE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO MAKE A REPORT, THESE ARE YOUR HIGHEST RISK KIDS IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE KIDS WHO ARE BEING HURT. LET'S FIX THE PROBLEM. 
          >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. 
          >> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. CAN YOU GO BACK MAYBE FIVE OR SIX SLIDES WHERE YOU HAD THE CARROLLTON STATISTICS? 
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          >> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO -- >> THERE WE GO. 
          >> THEY DID THIS FOR ME. >> I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT HERE. 167 CARROLLTON CHILDREN SERVED IN 2025. SO WHAT IS A SERVICE THEN? 
          >> I CAN DO THAT ONE -- >> ALL RIGHT. 
          [LAUGHTER] WE AVERAGE, I LOOK AT AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT TEN SERVICES PER CHILD IS THE NORM. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOUR KIDS HAVE DONE. 
          SO WE FOLLOW THAT SPECIFICALLY. FORENSIC INTERVIEW IS ONE. 
          A THERAPY SESSION IS ANOTHER. AN ADVOCACY SESSION IS ANOTHER. 
          SO MOST KIDS GET A FORENSIC INTERVIEW, AN ADVOCACY SESSION, A MEDICAL, AND THEN 8-10 THERAPY SESSIONS. 
          THAT'S YOUR AVERAGE. AND YOUR KIDS ARE EXACTLY IN LINE WITH THIS. I LOOK AT THAT AVERAGE, THAT TELLS ME, DOES THE COMMUNITY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRANSPORTATION? ARE THEY GETTING TO OUR SHOP? THAT HAPPENS TO BE KIND OF THE MAGIC NUMBER, I SEE, WHEN I SEE THAT I'M LIKE OKAY, THE HEALTH OF THAT ACCESSIBILITY IS THERE. 
          >> DO YOU KEEP ANY STATISTICS ON THE CONVICTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THIS? FOR ANYTHING THAT'S REPORTED FOR 
          THESE? >> WE DO AND DON'T. 
          I CAN TELL YOU, THE REASON WE DON'T, THAT'S THE OFFICIAL ANSWER IS I DON'T, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY JOB TO PROSECUTE THE CASES, IT IS THE D.A.'S OFFICE. I DO IN THAT I AM A PART OF EVERY SINGLE CASE THAT GOES THROUGH, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE TREND FROM AN ADVOCACY, ADVOCACY CENTER WAS LESS THAN 5% OF THESE CASES WENT THROUGH PROSECUTION. NOW IT'S MORE LIKE 99%. 
          >> WOW. >> IF IT GOES TO PROSECUTION, WE HAVE A CONVICTION. WE SEE ENORMOUS SUCCESS IN THIS OVERALL MODEL. BAD THINGS ALONG THE WAY, CASES THAT DON'T GO, NOW I WILL TELL YOU, NOT EVERY CASE GOES TO PROSECUTION. WE WILL ALL RUN INTO SOMEBODY WHO SAYS THEY DROPPED MY CASE AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY. 
          WE STILL OFFER SERVICES WHEN A KID HAS MADE AN OUTCRY BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH A PROSECUTION. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL FACE AS A COMMUNITY DE. 
          BUT THE CASES THAT GO THROUGH ARE REALLY STRONG, HAVE DONE STRONG INVESTIGATIONS THAT LEAD TO SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTIONS. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DO YOU COUNT A SERVICE LIKE A 
          FAMILY THERAPY SESSION? >> ABSOLUTELY YES. 
          >> DO YOU COUNT EACH ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY. 
          >> NO, NOT LIKE THAT APPEARED AND ALSO NOT THE PHONE CALL TO SET UP, THAT IS NOT COUNTED AS SERVICES. 
          THESE ARE INTERVENTION SERVICE. I AM PART OF SOCIAL SERVICE WORLD. I GAVE THEM A CAN OF FOOD, THAT IS A SERVICE. I GAVE FIVE PEOPLE IN THERAPY, THAT'S FIVE SESSIONS. NO, NO, NO. 
          OURS IS BY THE KID. THESE ARE CALCULATED BY THE KID, 
          PER INTERVENTION-BASED SERVICE. >> IT IS FRIGHTENING, THE NUMBERS. SO THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER AND METRO CREST ARE AT THIS LEVEL, EVERYTHING ELSE GOES -- OUR SOCIAL SERVICES PARTNERS ARE THINGS THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT IN AND SPEND MONEY ON IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A PARTNER, SO THAT IS WHY THESE ARE BROUGHT TO THE 
          COUNCIL. >> AND I WILL TELL YOU, FROM AN ECONOMY OF SCALE, FOR CARR CARROLLTON, YOU ALL PROBABLY WOULD WARRANT YOUR OWN FORENSIC INTERVIEW OR. 
          I'VE GOT FIVE, SO I HAVE ONE WHO IS SPANISH SPEAKING, ONE WHO IS ENGLISH, I HAVE A NUMBER, I HAVE SOMEBODY IF SOMEBODY IS ON VACATION, I CAN STILL SERVE, SO YOU ALL HAVE ENOUGH VOLUME SO POTENTIALLY YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE STAFF OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON. 
          I THINK IT'S A BARGAIN PRICE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. 
          HONESTLY, WE ARE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, FOR SURE. 
          YOUR DEPARTMENT IS YOU PARTICIPATE ENORMOUSLY IN THE TRAININGS AND LEADERSHIP, HAVE SOME OF THE VERY BEST. 
          100% TRANSPARENT WITH Y'ALL. THEY LOVE THEM. 
          THEY PRESENT TO OUR MULTIPLE DISCIPLINARY TEAM TO TEACH OTHERS. WE HAVE EXPERTS IN CARROLLTON. 
          >> AGAIN WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. 
          WE HAVE A TOUR FOR THOSE INTERESTED AND HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO TOUR IT. I THINK THIS DOES A GREAT JOB, BUT I THINK IT IS FAR MORE COMPELLING IF YOU CAN SEE IT IN PERSON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          COUNCIL, WITH THAT, THAT IS GOING TO TAKE US TO OUR 
          INFORMATION SHARING. >> APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          I WILL START WITH OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          >> OH, ME. OKAY, WASN'T QUITE READY, 
          BUTCHER. >> TAKE YOUR TIME, WE HAVE 
          PLENTY OF TIME. >> SO LAST WEEK I WAS ABLE TO GO 
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TO BOTH GRADUATIONS OF OUR CARROLLTON CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY IN ESPANOL AND THEN THE ENGLISH CLASS. 
          SO LOTS OF HAPPY GRADUATES AND LOTS OF FAMILIES CHEERING THEM ON, AND FOR US THAT MEANS LOTS MORE PEOPLE THAT WILL FILL THAT PIPELINE OF CITIZENS ON PATROL AND LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS, SO WE APPRECIATE THEM. WE APPRECIATE SO MUCH THE EFFORTS FROM OUR CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO SPEND THESE HOURS, HOURS UPON HOURS WITH OUR CITIZENS TO TEACH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES. I ALSO WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE TAIL END OF THE INAUGURAL TRAINING EVENT, THAT WAS VERY FUN. IT SEEMS LIKE I CAUGHT IT AT THE RIGHT TIME BECAUSE LOTS OF PEOPLE HAD ALREADY LEFT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO HOT, AND WHEN I GOT THERE IT WAS GREAT. 
          THERE WAS STILL LOTS OF FOOD. THERE WAS STILL MUSIC. 
          THE SUN HAD ALREADY GONE DOWN. SO IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. 
          AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE NEXT ONE. 
          CAN'T WAIT. I ALSO GOT TO GO TO THE LAST SATURDAY -- HELP ME OUT WITH THIS -- COMMUNITY FUN DAY. 
          AND IT WAS PHENOMENAL APPEARED IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. 
          I ACTUALLY TOOK MY DAUGHTER WITH ME, WHO IS NOT A LITTLE, BUT SHE IS A YOUNG ADULT. SHE IS ACTUALLY CHRISTIAN'S AGE. 
          THEY BOTH GRADUATED IN 2020. SO I MADE THAT CONNECTION WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HIS MOTHER. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. 
          THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CAME THROUGH. 
          A LOT OF CHRISTIAN GONZALEZ FANS BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST LIKE OH COME IS THIS THE GUY WHO IS HERE TODAY? THIS IS GREAT. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. 
          THEN AFTERWARDS WE WERE ABLE TO CATCH THE TAIL END OF THE PRIDE FESTIVAL OUT AT THE UNIVERSAL UNITARIAN HORIZON CHURCH, SO THAT WAS, IT WAS GREAT. THERE IS STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. I JUST KEPT STAYING STAY HYDRATED BECAUSE IT'S VERY HOT OUT HERE. 
          HOT AND MUGGY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, OH, TOD YESTERDAY, SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TURNING WITH OUR TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT GROUP, AND PUSHING THINGS FORWARD, FOR SURE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          >> AWESOME. THANK YOU. 
          JASON? >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS 
          WEEK. >> NOTHING? 
          >> YOU TRAVELED. >> I'VE BEEN TRAVELING. 
          >> I SAW YOUR PICTURES. LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD A GREAT 
          TIME. >> ALL RIGHT, REINA? 
          >> FESTIVALS. WONDERFUL. 
          IT IS THE BEGINNING FOR ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU CAN JUST SEE THE SUCCESS OF THE NEXT FEW EVENTS. THEN THE PHILIPPINE INDEPENDENCE DAY, OUR MAYOR GAVE A TALK OF WELCOME TO CARROLLTON. 
          THIS WAS STILL IN GRAND PRAIRIE. THEY STILL WANT SOMETHING TO DO WITH CARROLLTON AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE SIZE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD AN END OF THE MONTH CELEBRANT FOR THE COSMOPOLITAN UNITED CHURCH CLOSE TO JOSIE LANE, AND THEY ARE INVITING US TO EVERY END OF THE MONTH, THEY CELEBRATE, THE CELEBRANTS, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN 
          US. >> BIRTHDAYS. 
          >> YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO CELEBRATE, YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WITH PRAYERS AND ALL. AND THEN THERE WAS -- IT LOOKED LIKE THAT WHOLE STRIP MALL. 
          THE BAKLAVA CHEESECAKE. WHAT CAN I SAY? ALSO THE RIBBON CUTTING OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS BASED IN CARROLLTON. THE PCC I.. 
          IS A FILIPINO ORGANIZATION. THE RIBBON CUTTING AND THEIR OFFICE IN RICHARDSON AND MAYOR WAS THERE COME HE SAYS HELLO TO EVERYONE. AND THE RETIREMENT FOR LYNN HARO, FIRE RESCUE. THAT WAS VERY MOVING. 
          THAT WAS VERY MOVING. THE GRADUATES OF THE SPANISH AND ENGLISH. GRADUATED. 
          >> CONGRATULATIONS! RICHARD? 
          >> LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          THEY HAD THIS AI CERTIFICATION GOING ON, I THINK IT IS SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS, THIS IS MY THIRD WEEK THERE, SO GLAD TO SEE THE CHAMBERS PUTTING ON GREAT PROGRAMMING COMING OUT ONLY FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS BUT AS WELL FOR THE CITIZENS TO GET 
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ACCLIMATED TO THE DIFFERENT STYLES OF AI AND JUST THE TERMINOLOGY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THOROUGHLY ENJOY THAT. GLAD TO SEE AGAIN THAT THE PROGRAMMING HAS INCREASED. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE END OF THAT. I THINK AT THE END YOU GET A CERTIFICATION. AGAIN, KUDOS. 
          LAST SATURDAY I. ATTENDED THE PRIDE FESTIVAL IN CARROLLTON. 
          BEAUTIFUL DAY. A LITTLE WARM, BUT IT WAS, AS USUAL, FOLKS GOT TO SEE FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM PALTER. 
          HE WAS IN HIS FULL DRESS AND REGALIA. 
          ANYWAY IT WAS A GREAT DAY JUST TO GO OUT AND SHOW SUPPORT. 
          AND OF COURSE THIS UPCOMING WEEKEND, JUNETEENTH, MARY HEADS TURNER PARK AT 10:00, YOU WILL HAVE THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION, SO PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY AND COME OUT AND CELEBRATE. 
          >> AWESOME. THANK YOU. 
          LISA? >> I ATTENDED THE ROTARY CLUB FUNDRAISER FOR ERADICATING POLIO. 
          SORRY. >> YOU ARE GOOD. 
          >> AND IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT. THEY EVEN HAD SOME CLUBS COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, AND HAD SOME ACTUAL CARROLLTON CITIZENS COME BECAUSE ONE OF THEM HAD THEIR MOM WHO HAD POLIO, AND THEY GREW UP WITH THAT, SO IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT MEET AND GREET AND FUNDRAISER, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          >> GREAT, THANK YOU. NANCY? 
          >> I ATTENDED THE POLIO FUNDRAISER ON MY WAY TO THE TRAFFIC ADVISORY MEETING. PROUD TO ALSO HONOR -- WHO TAUGHT THE FIRE ACADEMY WHEN I TOOK IT AND DID A GREAT JOB BACK THEN. HATE TO SEE PEOPLE LEAVE, BUT YOU HAVE TO CELEBRATE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUCH A LONG, GOOD CAREER, AFTER I THINK HE WAS IN THE MILITARY FIRST. 
          >> YEP, YEP. >> THE TRINITY KNIGHTS. 
          I ENJOYED IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. CHRISTIAN GONZALEZ A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE HELPING. ONE IS AN OXYGENATED WATER COMPANY THAT IS LOCATED BEHIND PARKS COFFEE AND OWNED BY -- IT'S A SON OF SOMEONE WE ALL KNOW, AND I'M GOING BLANK. 
          HE CREATES THIS WATER IN CARROLLTON AND SELLS IT ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HEALTHIER THAN REGULAR WATER BABIES. CARROLLTON TAP WATER AND 
          OXYGENATES IT. >> OUR TAP WATER, AWESOME. 
          >> AND PURIFIES IT. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT. IT IS A GODSEND. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTED. I WAS LUCKY TO FALL IN TEER WITH DAISY AND HER DAUGHTER. WE WERE ALL ENTERTAINED. 
          HELPING CELEBRATE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM? 
          >> I ALSO WAS OUT OF TOWN ON VACATION WITH FAMILY, BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION, I THINK THREE NATIONS IS ALSO DOING A PHOTO EVENT. THAT WAS IT. 
          MY MOTHER IS A POLIO SURVIVOR. SHE IS UP IN CHICAGO. 
          I TOLD HER ABOUT THE EVENT AND SAW THE PICTURES FROM IT, AND IT WAS REALLY COOL. WE WERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SHOWING UP FOR THAT. 
          IT'S CRAZY TO BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE POLIO EPIDEMIC WAS BACK THEN AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE OF -- SO THANK YOU 
          FOR BRINGING THAT UP. >> VERY GOOD. 
          MOST OF THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN COVERED. 
          TRINITY KNIGHTS WAS FABULOUS. I THINK IT CERTAINLY EXCEEDED WHAT I EXPECTED FOR AN INAUGURAL EVENT. 
          I THINK THE NEXT EVENT IS CULTURE FEST IN SEPTEMBER. 
          I THINK SEPTEMBER SO WATCH YOUR CALENDARS ON THAT. 
          FISHING WAS NOT MENTIONED. FISHING AT THE RANCH IS ALWAYS A FAMILY FAVORITE AND KIDS LOVE TO CATCH THE FISH. 
          THANKS TO OUR PARKS AND REC. THE 5K, THE 5K SO THREE, FOUR, FIVE, MAYBE $6 RAN, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE RAN. 
          IT WAS GOOD. SOME FAST TIMES ON IT, IN SPITE IT WAS NO RAIN, A LITTLE DREARY TO START BUT IT CERTAINLY WARMED UP AFTER THAT. WE HAD TWO KOREAN EVENTS THIS WEEK. WE HAD A KOREAN SPECIAL OLYMPICS HELD AND ITS DELEGATIONS FROM ABOUT 16 DIFFERENT, THE U.S. AND GLOBALLY. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. 
          HATS OFF TO JENNY'S I FELDER FOR PARTICIPATING IN A KOREAN 
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DELEGATION. THEY MET WITH DALLAS CDC, DALLAS NORTH CHAMBER. DALLAS, CITY OF DALLAS HOSTED THEM, IN THE EVENING IN LEWISVILLE, REPRESENTING THE WHOLE REGION. I SPOKE WITH THEM. 
          JENNY DID A GREAT JOB OF REALLY BEING PART OF IT. 
          ABOUT 80 ATTENDEES REPRESENTING VARIOUS COMPANIES OF ALL INDUSTRIES. AND ALL THE LIKELY SUSPECTS. 
          MCKINNEY, PLANO, CARROLLTON, FARMERS RANCH, DALLAS, AND MOST OF THE SURROUNDING SUBURBS, IN ADDITION TO THE DELEGATION WERE THERE. THEY ARE LOOKING TO INVEST IN CARROLLTON AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND BRINGING THEIR PRODUCTS HERE, SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. 
          WE HAVE A FEW THINGS COMING UP. SINCE WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES. 
          TRINITY MILLS STATION, NEXT MEETING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN UPDATE I THINK ON THAT, SO I WON'T GET INTO IT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO KICKOFF AGAIN. YOU'LL RECALL THEY WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEY KIND OF STOPPED BUT THEY ARE ABOUT TO START. DAISY KIND OF GAVE A COMMERCIAL ON THAT, A TEASER, SO I WILL FURTHER TEASE AND THAT SHOULD BE EXCITING FOR ALL OF US. WE WILL ALSO BE HAVING AN UPDATE ON DISTRICT 35 COMING UP, THE COMMITTEE IS MEETING NEXT WEEK, AND THEN WE WILL BE HAVING IT, I THINK THESE ARE THE LAST MEETING OF THE MONTH OR THE FIRST MEETING OF NEXT MONTH. 
          WE WILL ALSO GET AN UPDATE, MR. LINENGER, THE NEW CEO FOR DART, I THINK, HAS HE MET WITH YOU? TOMORROW, OKAY. HE IS CIRCLING AROUND TO ALL OF THE CITIES. YOU'LL RECALL WE HAVE ABOUT 
          $2.5 MILLION, $2.6 MILLION -- >> 2.38. 
          >> WE WILL CALL THAT 2.4, OF FUNDS COMING OUR WAY, SO STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TO PUT THAT IN PLACE. 
          IT HAS TO BE ASKED FOR BY THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          MORE TO COME ON THAT. BUT MR. LINENGER, THE NEW DART CEO, CIRCLING AROUND TO ALL OF THE CITIES, OUR DEPOT IS ONE OF THE TOPICS. REVIEWING THE CONSTRUCTION PRICES AND SO FORTH RIGHT NOW, GOING TO COME BACK, PROBABLY THROUGH YOU TOMORROW. WE WILL SEE ABOUT GETTING UPDATES CIRCULATED IN TERMS OF GRAND OPENINGS FOR TURRELL PARK. 
          IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY THAT, THAT IS ALMOST DONE. 
          AND WOODLAKE PARK. I WON'T SAY ANYTHING MORE ON THAT OTHER THAN WE WILL WATCH FOR SOME GRAND OPENING ON THOSE TWO. A LOT OF GOOD WORK BY STAFF ON ALL OF THOSE. ANYTHING FROM STAFF? OKAY. YOURSELF? WITH THAT, COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN. WE WILL 
          [INVOCATION - Councilmember Jason Carpenter]
JUNE 9TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. 
          COUNCIL, AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH OUR INVOCATION, LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JASON CARPENTER AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LISA SUTTER. 
          PLEASE RISE. >> FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY'S BUSINESS, AND I WOULD JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US A CLEAR MIND AND GIVE US THE ABILITY TO MAKE CLEAR DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR OUR CITY AND THAT HONOR YOU. 
          I PRAY, LORD, FOR THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE WITHIN OUR CITY AND ALL AROUND THIS AREA, THAT YOU WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM, CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR NATION, AND HELP US ALL TO WORK TOGETHER, DESPITE OUR DIFFERENCES, AND WE GIVE YOU FOR IT AND MY GLORY FOR IT, IN 
          CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS. ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND 
          INDIVISIBLE. >> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. 
          THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBER SEVEN THROUGH TEN. 
          WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, I'M SORRY, SEVEN THROUGH 16. WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS NUMBER 17 THROUGH 20 THAT WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC HEARING. BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, BUT IF ANYONE WISHES TO APPROACH COUNCIL AND ADDRESS ITEMS NUMBER 7-10 -- 16 BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. 
          [CONSENT AGENDA ]
FACING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE AND CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. MAYOR PRO TEM CHRISTOPHER AXBERG. 
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          >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS SIX THROUGH 13. SEVEN THROUGH 16. 
          OR SEVEN THROUGH 16. MY FAULT. 
          I STUMBLED OUT OF MYSELF. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMA. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM AND SECOND BY SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMA TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 7-16. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, COUNCIL, I WILL CALL THE VOTE. 
          [17. 7606 Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning For An Approximately 5-Acre Tract Zoned Planned Development District 212 (PD-212) For The (LR-2) Local Retail District And Located At The Northwest Corner Of North Josey Lane And Parker Road; To Repeal And Replace Ordinance No. 4207, Reestablishing PD-212; To Allow “Automobile, Motor Vehicle, And Watercraft Parts Sales” For Building B (4815 North Josey Lane) Without A Special Use Permit, To Modify Conceptual Plans, And To Revise Development Standards; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLZ 2026-061 AutoZone Auto Parts Store.]
COUNCIL, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THAT DOES TAKE US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          FIRST ITEM, NUMBER 17, IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 5-ACRE TRACT ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO 12 -- PD 212 -- FOR THE LR TWO LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH JOSE LANE AND PARKER ROAD TO REPEAL AND REPLACE ORDINANCE NUMBER 4207, REESTABLISHING PD 212, TO ALLOW AUTOMOBILE, MOTOR VEHICLE, AND WATERCRAFT PARTS SALES FOR BUILDING B AT 4815 NORTH JOSEY LANE, WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, TO MODIFY CONCEPTUAL PLANS, AND TO REVISE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY. THIS IS CASE NUMBER PLZ2026-061 AUTOZONE AUTO PARTS STORE. MR. SHAPIRO? 
          >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU, THE APPLICANT WANTS TO AMEND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ON THAT NORTHWEST CORNER OF PARKER AND JOSE. 
          THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN AUTOZONE RETAIL STORE. 
          FOR THIS TYPE OF USE COME IT IS CLASSIFIED AS AUTOMOBILE COME A MOTOR VEHICLE COME AND WATER PARTS SALES. 
          THAT DOES TYPICALLY REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE RETAIL ZONING. HOWEVER, WHAT THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND ALLOW THAT USE BY RIGHT RATHER THAN THROUGH AN SUP. IT ESSENTIALLY DOES THE SAME THING. YOU ARE STILL CONSIDERING THE USE BUT INSTEAD WE WILL HAVE THE USE ALLOWED BY RIGHT WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A SITE PLAN. THERE IS A MCDONALD'S ON THE CORNER, AND THEN THERE IS A STARBUCKS AND A CHIPOTLE. 
          TO THE NORTH. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A CONTINUOUSLY -- CONTINUITY OF THE LANDSCAPE, ALONG PARKER ROAD, AND ADDITIONALLY THEY PROVIDED PARKING. THIS IS KIND OF THE OVERALL SITE, LOOKING NORTH BEING TO YOUR RIGHT AND SOUTH BEING TO YOUR LEFT, MCDONALD'S IS JUST OFF THE SITE. 
          THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE, SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO DO IS REPLACE THE BUILDING THAT IS ON THE FAR LEFT WITH A SINGLE AUTOZONE BUILDING. 
          AT ONE TIME IT WAS A MULTI-TENANT OR A 2-TENANT BUILDING, NOW IT IS GOING TO BE A SINGLE TENANT RETAIL WHICH IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS. 
          BUT WITH A CHANGE IN USE AND SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS OF THE PLAN, THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED THE USE TO ALLOW THE AUTOMOTIVE SALE. THEY ALSO PROVIDED A FACADE PLAN THAT MATCHES CONSISTENT WITH THE CONSISTENT DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA, AND THEY PROVIDED A 3D RENDERING OF WHAT THE AUTOZONE WOULD LOOK LIKE NEXT TO THE CHIPOTLE AND MCDONALD'S. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH STIPULATIONS IN THE CASE REPORT. 
          >> COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SHAPIRO? 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          MR. SHAPIRO, THE PD VERSUS THE SUP, HOW OFTEN DO WE DO THAT? 
          >> WE ACTUALLY DO IT PRETTY OFTEN IF IT IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. INSTEAD OF HAVING A TWO STEP PROCESS, WHERE A PD, NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO AMEND THE PD TO DO THE CONCEPT PLAN COME IN THIS INSTANCE WE ARE DOING THE SAME PROCESS BUT INSTEAD OF CONSIDERING JUST THE USE ITSELF, WE ARE INTEGRATING THAT USE WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT IS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN. IT JUST ADDS THAT ADDITIONAL USE 
          TO A PLAN. >> OKAY, AND IS IT NOW AVAILABLE ANYWHERE WITHIN THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE AN AUTO 
          PARTS STORE, OR IS IT LIMITED? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          WITH A CONCEPT PLAN THE WAY IT IS, SHOWING THE AUTOZONE, IT WOULD JUST BE ON THIS TRACT OF LAND. 
          BUT YES TECHNICALLY IT DOES ALLOW THE USE WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. BUT AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF THIS, THIS IS THE ONLY UNDEVELOPED PARCEL THAT IS REMAINING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL HERE. I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE DATED, BUT 
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THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, CONTAINS THE CHIPOTLE AND THE STARBUCKS, SO IT IS ALL COMPLETELY DEVELOPED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SUBJECT TRACT THAT IS 
          HIGHLIGHTED. >> I GUESS, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK MY QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE. SO ARE THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS, CAN YOU GO TO THE ONES THAT SHOW THE STARBUCKS, AS WELL THERE WE GO. THE BUILDING, EITHER THE STARBUCKS BUILDING OR THE BUILDING FARTHER NORTH. 
          >> RIGHT IS NORTH. >> EITHER ONE OF THOSE POTENTIALLY NOT THAT THEY NECESSARILY WOULD, COULD BECOME 
          AN AUTO PARTS STORE. >> IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE SPEAK OR IF THEY TORE THE BUILDING. 
          >> IF THEY REVISE IT AND IT DIFFERENT THE CONCEPT PLAN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ANSWERS. 
          >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU. 
          SORRY, JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER'S QUESTION, I'M STILL UNCLEAR WHY NOT THE SUP, WHY NOT JUST DO AN 
          SUP? >> WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT BUT WE FELT WITH IT BEING A MASTER PLAN, IT WOULD BE MERELY ADDING THE BUILDING TO THE VACANT PARCEL TO COMPLETE THE SITE, AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE DONE THESE BEFORE WHERE THERE WOULD BE AN SUP REQUIRED, BUT SINCE IT IS A MASTER PLAN, THERE IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT JUST ALLOWED THE USE BY RIGHT. 
          SO CERTAINLY THIS BODY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY OF DETERMINING WHETHER THAT USE IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION. 
          BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ALLOWING IT BY RIGHT WITHIN THE 
          PE. >> OKAY. 
          AND I'M GOING BY MEMORY, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I HAVE FORGOTTEN MY MEMORY KNOW MY GEOGRAPHY, BUT HEB IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. TRAFFIC WAS SUCH -- 
          >> DIRECTLY ACROSS ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          >> PD 211 IS GOING TO BE H-E-B, WHAT HAS BEEN ZONED FOR H-E-B. 
          >> CORRECT. >> TAKING CONSIDERATION TRAFFIC, I'M SURE THE TRAFFIC, CONSIDERATION THE H-E-B AND THE ACCESS WITHIN THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MATCH UP WITH WHAT IS 
          BEING PROPOSED HERE? >> SEPARATELY, WHEN THE H-E-B CAME IN, THEY PROVIDED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. 
          WITH THIS ZONING CASE, AND THE WHOLE SITING FOR THAT MATTER, IT WAS CONTEMPLATED TO HAVE RETAIL ON THE SITE ORIGINALLY. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN HAD. 
          EVEN THOUGH INSTEAD OF TWO TENANTS IT IS A SINGLE TENANT, IT WAS ALWAYS ANTICIPATED TO BE SOME KIND OF RETAIL USE OR 
          RESTAURANT. >> OKAY, SO IS THAT PREC PRECLU, ANYTHING ELSE IN EITHER THE RETAIL OR THE PLANNING ASSOCIATED WITH IT? WITH THAT PARTICULAR LAND USE, 
          CORRECT? >> RIGHT. 
          IT IS JUST ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL USE TO THE CONCEPT. 
          >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> YEP. 
          >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMA. >> THANK YOU. 
          MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO THE PARKING. 
          >> YES. >> FOR THE AUTO ZONE THAT IS PROPOSED, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE WE ADDING, AND ARE THESE PARKING SPACES GOING TO BE SHARED WITH THE ADJACENT 
          BUSINESSES? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT THIS DOESN'T SHOW IS WHERE THE LOT LINES ARE ON THIS PROPERTY. SO THE AUTO ZONE THAT I SHOW HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN TRACK, SO BOTH THE CHIPOTLE AND STARBUCKS AS WELL AS MCDONALD'S ARE IN SEPARATE LOCKS. THEY PROVIDE THEIR OWN PARKING. 
          SO THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY SHARED PARKING. 
          THEY ARE PROVIDING SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR RETAIL USE. 
          >> OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TO THE STARBUCKS BEFORE FOR PREVIOUS COFFEE WITH A COP EVENT, AND MANY OF US HAD TO PARK IN THE CHIPOTLE PARKING LOT, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF PARKING IN THIS LITTLE TIGHT CORNER, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT AUTOZONE OR THE PROPOSED TENANTS WOULD BE WILLING TO ALLOW SHARED PARKING, ESPECIALLY DURING OFF HOURS, NOT OPEN AT 6:00 A.M. BEFORE GETTING COFFEE, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER MAY BE, I AM JUST HOPING THERE'S A LOT MORE SPACE TO SHARE THE PARKING SPACES. YES OR NO? 
          >> RIGHT NOW -- >> OKAY. 
          >> THERE IS NOT A MUTUAL ACCESS OR A MUTUAL PARKING. 
          >> AS LONG AS THEY MADE THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO LET OTHER PEOPLE -- PEOPLE CAN PARK THERE 
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AND THEY CAN PUT UP SIGNS AND ENFORCE HOWEVER THEY WANT TO. 
          THEY ARE MEETING THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT, THAT'S ALL WE CAN 
          REQUIRE. >> GOT IT. 
          THEN LET ME REPHRASE MY QUESTION. 
          WHAT ARE THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR THIS 
          PARTICULAR LOT AT AUTOZONE? >> SO FOR RETAIL... 
          LET ME SEE. I BELIEVE IT -- 
          >> I THINK IT SAID IT ON YOUR PREVIOUS SLIDE, I THINK IT IS ON 
          YOUR PREVIOUS SLIDE. >> IT IS KIND OF HARD TO READ. 
          LET ME SEE IF I CAN -- >> IN THIS TINY PRINT. 
          >> PROBABLY. >> TABLES AT THE BOTTOM. 
          SO THEY ARE PROVIDING 25 PARKING SPACES AND AS FAR AS WHAT IS REQUIRED. ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO THE REQUIREMENT IS 23. THEY ARE PROVIDING 25. 
          >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. 
          >> SORRY THAT REALLY TIED ME UP THERE. 
          >> OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KLEIN? 
          >> IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE FIRE LANE DOES A U SHAPE AROUND THE BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> YES, IT DOES. >> THEN WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE PROPOSED FOR THE AUTOZONE? I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. 
          >> THIS, I ADMIT, IS NOT THAT CLEAR. 
          THIS IS A BETTER IMAGE POINT. >> IS IT ON THE JOSEY SIDE? 
          >> IT IS ON THE JOSEY SIDE. >> ON THE BACK, THE HATCH MARKS, 
          WHAT IS THAT? >> UH... 
          THAT IS BASICALLY THEIR LOADING ZONE. 
          >> ALL FOR THEIR 18-WHEELERS? >> FOR WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO UNLOAD THEIR PRODUCT AND THEIR BUILDING. 
          THEY HAVE A CROSS HATCH BEHIND THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT SIDE. 
          >> OKAY. AND THEN... 
          THE PREVIOUS DRAWING HAD A DUMPSTER WHERE THAT IS BUT I SEE ON THIS LOCATION IT LOOKS LIKE THE DUMPSTER HAS MOVED UP TO A 
          DIFFERENT LOCATION? >> YES. 
          >> IF SOMEBODY IS WORKING ON THEIR CAR AND THEY CANNOT GET IT FIXED AND IT'S IN THE PARKING LOT, IS IT A CODE 
          ENFORCEMENT ISSUE? >> IT IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. WE MADE THAT AWARE TO AUTO ZONE. 
          THE APPLICANT MAYBE ABLE TO BETTER ANSWER THE QUESTION AS FAR AS OPERATIONS AND HOW THEY MANAGE THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING DOCUMENTED WITH RESPECT TO WORKING ON CARS? A QUICK CHANGE IS ONE THING, MECHANICAL REPAIRS AND SO FORTH. 
          PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. >> WE DO NOT HAVE THAT NOW, BUT WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS YOU COULD WORK ON YOUR CAR IN A 
          PARKING LOT. >> COUNCIL, I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WE DO HAVE A APPLICANT WHO WISHES TO MAKE A STATEMENT, PERHAPS? YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          >> MY NAME IS MELISSA HUFFMAN. I LIVE IN WEST WERTH VILLAGE TEXAS. I AM A LANDLORD AND A DEVELOPER OF THIS ENTIRE PROJECT THAT WAS PHASED INTO-- ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH MCDONALD'S PROJECT, THEN I FINISHED EACH BOULET PROJECT AND THE STARBUCKS PROJECT. AND THIS IS THE LAST PIECE TO BE DEVELOPED. I WISH IT WAS ANNOUNCED AFTER THE ATB ANNOUNCED THEY WERE OPENING FOR BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD USE. 
          WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A TWO TENANT BUILDING AT ONE POINT. 
          EVEN AT PNC WHEN I ATTENDED LAST MONTH I HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE LESS TRAFFIC, OF COURSE. I CANNOT SPEAK TO THEIR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. I UNDERSTAND AND I HEARD THE COUNCIL SPEAK TO CONCERNS OF MAINTENANCE IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          AND I TALKED TO AUTO ZONE CORPORATE DIRECTLY. 
          FROM TIME TO TIME MANAGEMENT DOES HELP AN ELDERLY PERSON OR A PERSON THAT JUST TURNED 16 LEARN HOW TO CHANGE A WIPER BLADE, BUT THAT IS NOT THERE FULL INTENT OF OPERATING BUSINESS. 
          IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO AND AUTOZONE OR AN AUTO PARTS STORE AT THIS CALIBER, THEY OFFER SOMETIMES OF SERVICES. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OTHERWISE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL GIVE THE PUBLIC A OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. 
          IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEAT, DON'T GO TOO FAR, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE CARDS FOR THIS? NO CARDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. 
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BUT IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON THIS, YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. 
          OKAY. SEEING NONE. 
          I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SINCE THERE WAS NO COMMENT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? OTHERWISE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? >> I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. I KNOW YOU ARE NOT AUTOZONE, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RULE OF THUMB IS WITH HOW LONG THEY LET 
          CAR STAY IN THE PARKING LOT? >> I DO NOT THINK THAT IS PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS, PER SE. I HATE TO SAY THIS, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE SOME WORK FOR ADVANCE AUTO PARTS TOO, I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT LOITERING IN THEIR PARKING LOTS. 
          OUT OF THE THREE, I THINK THAT AUTOZONE IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST 
          IN THE AUTO PARTS RETAILER. >> MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE ARE THERE ANY 18-WHEELERS EXPECTED TO MAKE DELIVERIES HERE, OR IS 
          IT SMALLER VEHICLES? >> I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE A 57-FOOT TRUCK, WHICH IS PRETTY STANDARD. I THINK STARBUCKS AND CHIPOTLE MAY HAVE A SIMILAR TRUCK THAT MAY SERVICE THEM AS WELL. 
          BUT WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY THAT 
          IS IN ANOTHER CITY AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> PLEASE. COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER. 
          >> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLINE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER TO APPROVE NUMBER 17 CASE...  AUTOZONE, AUTO PARTS STORE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL THE VOTE. AND THEY MOTION PASSES 
          [18. 7646 Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning To Amend Special Use Permit-485 To Allow For A Child Day Care Facility On An Approximately 3.09-Acres Tract Zoned (O-2) Office District With Special Use Permit (SUP 485) And Located At 3918 Old Denton Road And Approximately 1,400 Feet South Of West Hebron Parkway; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLSUP 2026-031 Sarang Mission Day Care. Case Coordinator: Shad Rhoten.]
UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS. 
          WELCOME TO CARROLLTON. COUNCIL, THAT TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM, NUMBER 18, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING TO AMEND A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A CHILD DAY CARE FACILITY ON APPROXIMATELY 3.09-ACRE TRACKED ZONE OFFICE TWO DISTRICT. 
          OFFICE DISTRICT WITH SPECIAL USE PERMIT SEP FOR 85, AND LOCATED AT 3918 OLD DAN ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 1400 FEET SOUTH OF WEST TEGAN PARKWAY. AMENDING THIS ACCORDINGLY. 
          THIS IS CASE NUMBER-- NUMBER APPEAL SEP-2026-031. 
          MR. SHAPIRO? >> THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE YOU IS BEING AMENDED. CURRENTLY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR 85 ALLOWS 50 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN AND SECONDARY SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE BUILDING. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS CONDUCTED FOR THAT. WHEN THAT CAME IN A FEW YEARS AGO. WITH THAT THERE WAS A SCHEDULE AS FAR AS WHERE-- IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT BASICALLY THE QUEUING AND DROP-OFF AND PICKUP WAS DETERMINED WITH THIS PLAN. 
          SIMILARLY WITH THE-- AT THE APPLICANT WILL NOW PROPOSE IS THEY ARE WANTING TO SUBMIT FOR DAY CARE OPERATIONS. 
          BUT THERE WILL ONLY BE 30 CHILDREN. 
          THAT IS THEIR LIMIT. AND THEY WILL OCCUPY THREE CLASSROOMS, AND THE PLAYGROUND'S EXISTING. 
          THE CHURCH ALREADY EXISTS WITH THOSE CLASSROOMS. WITH THE CHURCH OPERATIONS ON THE WEEKEND THEY TAKE UP THE AREA SHOWN IN YELLOW, THAT LATER BLUE-COLLAR. 
          AND THE SCHOOL WILL OCCUPY THE BALANCE OF THE CLASSROOMS ALSO THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. ONE THING TO BRING UP IS THAT THEIR TIME OF OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME. 
          BUT THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED, STATED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT THERE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP TIMES WILL BE STAGGERED. 
          SO THOSE TIMES WILL NOT COME TOGETHER. 
          IN ANY EVENT, SINCE IT IS THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PROPOSED FOR THE DAY CARE UNDER 80, WHICH IS USUALLY WHERE TRIGGERS A NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, STAFF DID NOT FEEL AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC PLAN WAS NECESSARY WITH THE STAGGERED TIMES AND PLACE. 
          WE FELT THE USE WAS APPROPRIATE. FOR THAT REASON, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE STATED STIPULATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT OF 30 CHILDREN AND THE PICKUP AND DROP-OFF TIMES FOR BOTH THE SCHOOL AND FOR THE DAY CARE, INDICATED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. 
          THE APPLICANT'S ARE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SHAPIRO? 
          MAYOR PRO TEM AXFORD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I COULD NOT TELL BY THE INFORMATION, BUT IS THERE ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION OR NET NEW BUILDINGS ADDED? 
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          >> THERE IS NONE. >> SO THEY ARE USING THE 
          EXISTING BUILDINGS? >> CORRECT, THIS FLOOR PLAN, I WILL USE THE SCHOOL FOR THE DAY CARE-- THE DAY CARE PARDON ME. THEY WILL USE THE EXISTING THREE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THAT PURPLE COLOR, AND THE PLAYGROUND IS OUTDOORS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. 
          BUT THERE WILL BE NO ADDITIONS TO THE BUILDING. 
          >> OKAY. AND BECAUSE OF THAT THERE IS NOT REALLY GOING TO BE THAT IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND VOLUME AND ALL OF 
          THAT. >> NO. 
          BUT WE DID LOOK AT OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE 50 STUDENTS ALLOWED IN THE SCHOOL. THEY ARE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 30 AND THAT'S WHY IT COMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO OTHER LIGHTS OR QUESTIONS. SO IS THE APPLICANT. 
          WE WOULD THEY LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT? 
          >> YOU MAY STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? 
          >> I AM HEAD OF THE CHURCH, AND I COME HERE TO... 
          [INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY. 
          COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMEMBER DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM POLO-- DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM 
          PALOMO. >> I DID HAVE A COMMENT, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING CARROLLTON TO BE IN A SPACE WHERE YOUNG PARENTS AND PEOPLE CAN HAVE A PLACE, A CHILD CARE IN THEIR FIST-- VICINITY, WHERE VERY MUCH EIGHT-- WE ARE VERY MUCH A CHILD CARE DESERT AND CARROLLTON. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS OPTION TO NORTH CARROLLTON FOR 
          YOUNG FAMILIES AND PARENTS. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T HAVE CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT IF ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. 
          SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO 
          APPROVE. >> OKAY. 
          COUNCILMEMBER PALOMA. >> I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT 
          MOTION. >> COUNCIL I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMA HOME, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 18, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER APPEAL SUP 2026, SARANG DAY CARE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL THE VOTE. 
          THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS. 
          [19. 7648 Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning To Amend Special Use Permit-405 To Allow “Other Motor Vehicle Sales” On An Approximately 3.17-Acre Tract Zoned (LI) Light Industrial District And Located at 1010 Hutton Drive; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLSUP 2026-063 Selective Auto.]
THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 19. A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE AMENDINGZONING TO AMEND SPECIAL USE PERMIT-405 TO ALLOW “OTHER MOTOR VEHICLE SALES” ON AN APPROXIMATELY 3.17-ACRE TRACT ZONED (LI) LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT 1010 HUTTON DRIVE; AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY. CASE NO. PLSUP 2026-063 SELECTIVE AUTOORDINANCE MR. SHAPIRO. 
          >> THIS IS ANOTHER SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT'S BEING AMENDED. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE THERE IS A SINGLE BUILDING THAT IS IN THE CENTER, SOUTHCENTER PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND IT HAS AT LEAST THREE TO FOUR COVERED STRUCTURES. 
          IT COVERS THE SALE OF AUTOMOTIVE SALES. 
          SO IT'S TRUCKS AND USED CARS. THEY ALSO REPAIR AUTOMOBILES AND MAINTAIN THOSE CARS AND THEY HAVE AUTOBODY SHOPS AND ACCESSORIES. WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO IS REQUESTING HAVING BOTH-- BOAT SAILS ALONG WITH THEIR BOAT TRAILERS THAT ARE ACCOMPANYING THEM, AND THAT WILL BE SOLD ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTIES. 
          IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS MAP, NORTH IS LEFT, HUTTON IS ON THE UPPER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. UP TOP. 
          AND THE RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY DRAINAGE IS TO THE WEST. 
          TO THE APPLICANT, ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SOLD WILL BE BEHIND THE BUILDING WERE COVERED. 
          IT WILL NOT OCCUPY ANY FIRE LANE. 
          THE AUTO SAILS THAT ARE ALREADY ALLOWED OR PREPARED WILL ALSO NOT OCCUPY ANY SPACES OTHER THAN THOSE ASSIGNED. 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THEY ARE-- THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. EXISTING CONDITIONS, RIGHT NOW, 
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AS YOU CAN SEE, BUILDING DOMINATES THE SITE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE COVERED STRUCTURES ON THE RIGHT AND THE LOWER PART OF YOUR SCREEN. THEY HAVE ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCING. THEY HAVE ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPING BECAUSE OF THE OVERHEAD POWER LINES ON THE SITE. AS I POINTED OUT THE RAILROAD AND DRAINAGE AREA BEHIND THE SITE TO THE WEST. 
          APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS WE FEEL THE USE IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS SITE. 
          >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MR. SHAPIRO, THERE IS AN EXISTING ON THE ZONER MAP, AND EXISTING SUP IN THIS AREA. 
          CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? >> SURE. 
          RIGHT NOW THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT IS EXISTING IS FOR AUTO AND TRUCK SAILS. AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR AND SERVICE FOR MAINTENANCE. WHICH IS ACCESSORY ALONG WITH 
          THE PAINT AND BODY SHOP. >> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE HERE. 
          >> THE ADDITIONAL USES FOR THEM TO SELL BOATS AND TRAILERS TO GO WITH IT. IT IS CLASSIFIED AS THE SALE OF WATERCRAFT SAILS BASICALLY. SO THAT IS A SEPARATE USE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> SO WE HAVE TO ADD THE USES 
          PART OF THIS. >> GOT IT. 
          >> COUNCIL, I HAVE NO OTHER LINES. 
          IS THE APPLICANT HERE, WOULD THEY LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT? YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          SEEING NONE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL, WITHOUT ALL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T HAVE CARDS FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER EITHER. BUT IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. 
          SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND WITHOUT THAT TAKES ME TO COUNCILMEMBER CLINE. 
          >> I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF, THERE IS A NOTE ON HERE, PROPOSED NEW AWNING A MINIMUM 2? THERE WERE AWNINGS IN THE PICTURES YOU SHOWED? ARE THERE MORE AWNINGS TO BE 
          INSTALLED AS PART OF THIS? >> THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING WITH THE APPLICANT. THEY MERELY WANTED TO HAVE THE 
          ADDITIONAL USE. >> OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. WITH THAT, IF APPROPRIATE I'D 
          LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >> WE WILL TAKE THAT MOTION. 
          OKAY, COUNCIL I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLINE. 
          COUNCILMEMBER WATERS. >> I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLINE AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WATTERS TO APPROVE ITEM NUM NUMBER 19, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL THE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          [20. 7649 Hold A Public Hearing To Consider An Ordinance Amending The Zoning On An Approximately 21.08-Acre Tract Zoned Planned Development District 005 (PD-005) For The (LR-2) Local Retail District And Located At 1213 East Trinity Mills Road, To Amend PD-005 To Allow A Gasoline Station Without A Special Use Permit, To Modify Development Standards And Conceptual Plans; Amending The Official Zoning Map Accordingly. Case No. PLZ 2026-017 Walmart Gasoline Station.]
CONGRATULATIONS. COUNCIL WITHOUT THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 20. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ON AN APPROXIMATELY 21.08-ACRE TRACT ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 005 (PD-005) FOR THE (LR-2) LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT 1213 EAST TRINITY MILLS ROAD, TO AMEND PD-005 TO ALLOW A GASOLINE STATION WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND CONCEPTUAL PLANS; AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ACCORDINGLY. CASE NO. PLZ 2026-017 WALMART 
          GASOLINE STATION. >> MR. SHAPIRO? 
          >> THIS IS ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS TIME FOR PD FIVE. AND YOU WILL PROBABLY RECOGNIZE THIS LOCATION IS WALMART HERE IN TOWN. 
          THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA. THE PLAN IS WHERE THEY PROPOSE TO PUT THE FUEL STATION. A LITTLE HISTORY WITH P5. 
          IT'S AN EXTENSIVE AREA. IT'S LARGE AND IT TAKES UP BASICALLY THAT NORTH EAST CORNER OF TRINITY MILLS AND OLD DENTON. 
          IT DOESN'T QUITE GET TO MCCOY. SO THAT ZONING WHEN ESTABLISHED A NUMBER OF TIMES SPECIFICALLY IT WAS PUT TOGETHER WHEN THE LOWS AND THE WALMART CAME IN. AND IT SPECIFICALLY LIMITED THE USES THAT WERE TO BE ALLOWED. NORMALLY RETAIL USES GENERALLY IS PRETTY FREE AND EASY. WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS. 
          AND SPECIFICALLY, USUALLY IN A RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT LIKE THIS WE WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          WITH PD FIVE IT PROHIBITS THIS USE. 
          ALONG WITH OTHER AUTOMOTIVE USES. 
          THE WHOLE REASON WHY IS THAT AT THE TIME THIS WAS CREATED AND AMENDED FOR BOTH THE LOWES AND WALMART. 
          IT WAS MEANT TO PROVIDE AN ATTRACTIVE CORRIDOR SINCE THIS IS A HIGHLY VISIBLE COURT OR AT THAT. 
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SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY IT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED THOSE AUTOMOTIVE TYPE USES. SO SOME HISTORY ON THIS. 
          THERE ARE CURRENTLY ONLY THREE GAS STATIONS ALONG TRINITY MILLS AT THIS TIME. ALL OF THEM ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER. ONE WAS REMODELED. 
          IN EVERY CASE, THE WAY THEY ARE ON THE PROPERTY OR POSITIONED ON THE PROPERTY, THEY FACE OUT TO THE STREET. 
          THEY DO NOT SIDE OR PERPENDICULAR TO THE STREET. 
          WHILE THESE ARE OLDER GAS STATIONS, THEY AT LEAST PROVIDE AN ATTRACTIVE FACE, A FRONT FACE TO THE ROADWAYS. 
          BOTH IN CASES WHERE THEY ARE ON CORNERS, THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE ONE OVER THERE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. 
          OF OLD DENTON AND TRINITY MILLS. WHILE THE OLD-STYLE GAS STATIONS WITH CANOPY, THE FRONT FACE FACES OUT TO TRINITY MILLS. 
          THE MIDDLE ONE IS DOWN THE STREET HERE. 
          AT JOSIE. AND TRINITY MILLS ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. IT HAS ENTRANCES ON BOTH THE SIDES AND ON THE TRINITY MILLS SIDE AS WELL. 
          FINALLY, ALONG KELLYANNE TRINITY MILLS, SIMILAR GAS STATION TO THE CHEVRON. IT HAS THE CANOPY OVER THE TOP OF THE STORE. BUT IT ALSO HAS WINDOWS THAT FACE OUT TO KELLYANNE TRINITY MILLS. 
          SO THERE IS NOT ONLY THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS SHOWN IN HIGHLIGHTED IN BLACK. PROVIDING LIMITATIONS AND SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITING THE USE BY SUP OR BY RIGHT, THERE'S BEEN A PRESIDENT PRECEDENT ALONG TRINITY MILLS TO HAVE FEWER OF THESE GASOLINE STATIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF THE VISIBILITY, AND BASICALLY WHEREVER THE CITY IS BUILT OUT WE HAVE THE TRINITY MILLS STATION JUST TO THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST OF HERE. AS YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION OF 35. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS ORIGINALLY CAME IN, THOUGH IT WAS BACK IN 1994, IT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED THOSE USES. 
          THAT SAID, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO IS WALMART HAS, AS I MENTIONED ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, WALMART HAS SPACE BETWEEN THE EXISTING DRIVE I'LL AND THE AREA IN BETWEEN WHERE THE LOWES PROPERTY LINE BEGINS. THEY PROVIDED A LANDSCAPE PLAN, A LOCATION ON THE LOWER RIGHT FOR THE STORE, AND THE-- I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. AND THEY HAVE THE CANOPY THAT GOES OVER FOR THE GAS STATION. FOR THE GAS PUMPS. 
          THEN THEY HAVE A FUEL LOADING ZONE THAT WILL TAKE UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT GOES ALONG THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. 
          THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PROVIDED. 
          THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS BEING DEVELOPED IT DOES PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS, IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE A RIGHT TURN LANE. 
          THAT IS SHOWN IN RED ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. 
          IT IS ONE WAY. SO FOR WESTBOUND TRAFFIC IN TO THE SIDE, THEY PROVIDED LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE PROPOSED KIOSK BUILDING AND TRINITY MILLS. AND THEY PROVIDED SHRUBS AND TREES NEAR THE FUEL LOADING AREA. 
          WHAT STAFF'S CONCERNS ARE ARE BASICALLY THE FOLLOWING. 
          ONE IS THE PRECEDENCE OF TRYING TO KEEP THAT CORRIDOR IN PLACE BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL DID ADOPT, THE ORIGINAL PD FIVE STANDARDS. 
          AND OUR CONCERN THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF IS PERPENDICULAR. SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE FACADE PLANS, WHILE THEY DID UPGRADE THE SINCE THE COMMISSION MEETING, PROVIDING MORE COLOR AND ENHANCEMENTS TO IT, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS THE WEST ELEVATION. 
          AND THAT FACES AWAY FROM WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS MOVING. 
          SO WITH IT MOVING WESTBOUND YOU ARE ACTUALLY SEEING THE EAST ELEVATION. SO THEY DID PROVIDE WALMART LOGO AND THE BLUE COLORING TO GO WITH THE GRAY AND WAINSCOT. 
          THE TRELLISES REMAIN FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION THAT THEY PROVIDED TO PNC. SO THEY DID UPDATE THEIR PLAN. 
          BUT OUR CONCERN IS, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WITH THE ORIGINAL THAT WAS PROVIDED AND IN PLACE SINCE 94, WE FELT THAT WITH THE BUILDING BEING PERPENDICULAR, NOT FACING TRINITY MILLS, AS HAS BEEN THE CASE WITH THE FEW GAS STATIONS THAT EXIST, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS. 
          AND OF COURSE THIS IS EVEN CLOSER TO THE STREET. 
          THE APPLICANT DID HOWEVER PROVIDE THREE DEED FACADES. 
          THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION OF IT. 
          AS YOU ARE APPROACHING FROM TRINITY MILLS. 
          THIS IS THE BACKSIDE OF IT. AND THEY PROVIDED THE CANOPIES AND WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE OVER THE GAS PUMPS. 
          AND A COMBINATION OF WHAT YOU SEE. 
          THIS IS THE WEST FACADE AS YOU GO IN. 
          AND TRINITY MILLS WOULD BE ON YOUR RIGHT. 
          SO FOR THOSE REASONS, STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING THIS 
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USE TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW A GASOLINE STATION BY RIGHT. HOWEVER, THAT SAID, THERE ARE STIPULATIONS THAT SHOULD THE COUNCIL SHOULD DECIDE AND WANT TO GO IN SUPPORT OF THE USE, THERE ARE STIPULATIONS IN PLACE SUCH AS STANDING WITH THESE CONCEPT PLANS AS WELL AS THE SITE PLANNING AND THE ESTATE PLAN. 
          OBVIOUSLY, NOT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION-- I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. 
          >> THIS IS KIND OF LOOKING TO THE EAST, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT 
          CORRECT, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. 
          >> AND THAT IS THE HOTEL. OUR HOTEL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE MARRIOTT, BUT WE WILL HAVE A DUAL BRANDED HOTEL RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. IS THAT RIGHT? 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GASOLINE. TO YOUR POINT. 
          THERE IS A DESERT ALONG THIS STRETCH. 
          RIGHT? >> CORRECT. 
          >> GOOD. AND ONE LAST THING, THIS IS CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED IN THE PD, SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH AN EXISTING PD. IS THAT FAIR? 
          >> CORRECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER WATERS. 
          >> MR. SHAPIRO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS NOT REMOVING THE PROHIBITION ACROSS THE ENTIRE P.E.D. IT'S JUST FOR THE SPECIFIC 
          LOCATION? >> JUST FOR THIS TRACKED. 
          IT'S LARGE, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE THE WALMART, AND WITH IT BEING A P.E.D. IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. 
          >> PD IS BEING AMENDED. SO ALL FUTURE MODIFICATIONS WOULD BE ALONG THE ENTIRE P. P.E.D., CONSISTENT WITH THIS? 
          >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER? >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          MR. SHAPIRO, I'M CURIOUS, WITHIN THE CITY, TO WE HAVE LARGE PD'S LIKE THIS THAT PREVENT-- SPECIFICALLY PREVENT GASOLINE? 
          SERVICES? >> YES. 
          THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS JUST ON THE SCREEN. 
          SO WHERE THAT IS IN THAT AREA, THAT GAS STATION-- THEY DON'T ALLOW GAS STATIONS AS A PD IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND INSTEAD OF DOING AND SUP WE ARE AMENDING THE PD, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE CASE THAT WE PROVED A LITTLE BIT AGO. FAIR? SO THERE WAS NOT OPPOSITION FROM STAFF FOR THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT DID NOT EXIST PREVIOUSLY WITHIN THE P UD. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS OKAY TO DO IT FOR THAT 
          ONE BUT NOT THIS ONE? >> SIMILAR TO SUP, IS MORE APPROPRIATENESS AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE CONDITION IN THIS AREA. 
          SINCE WE ARE ONLY THREE GAS STATIONS AND THE PUD IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT DATES BACK TO 94, IT SPECIFICALLY AND DELIBERATELY PROHIBITED THE USES. WHEREAS THE PREVIOUS PD REVIEW STILL ALLOWED THE USE WITHIN SUP SUP, THIS CURRENT PD FIVE PROHIBITS IT. BY SUP OR BY RIGHT. 
          IT'S THAT SPECIFIC. >> AND LIKE YOU SAID THIS DATES BACK TO 94. IT'S BEEN MODIFIED A FEW TIMES. 
          BUT THERE IS HISTORY WITH RESPECT TO THIS IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING AREAS, WHETHER THAT BE A WALMART OR A DIFFERENT RETAILER THAT MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THIS ONCE UPON A TIME? 
          >> CORRECT. AND WE HAD AT LEAST FOUR OTHER PREDEVELOPMENT MEETINGS THAT HAVE COME IN OVER THE YEARS. 
          ONE TO LOCATE AT THIS SITE OR OTHER SITES WITHIN THE PD. 
          ONE NOTABLE ONE IS ON THE CORNER OF OLD DENTON. 
          THERE WAS A 7-ELEVEN. IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE, BUT SPECIFICALLY IT WAS ONLY ALLOWED TO OPERATE FOR RETAIL YOUTH-- RETAIL USE. THEY CANNOT PUT GAS PUMPS IN. 
          >> I NOTICED IN THE NOTES THERE WAS SOME CONCERN FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AROUND THE ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS AT THE WALMART? IS THAT-- WHAT IS THAT INTENDED TO TELL ME? 
          >> IT'S TO MENTION THAT BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND POLICE ACTIVITY THERE ARE PROBLEMS AS FAR AS IT BEING THE LARGEST RETAILER. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CALLS TO THE SITE. SO WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS PART OF THE REQUEST FOR THE GAS STATION TO BE COMING IN 
          AS PART OF THE WALMART. >> AND THEN, YOU CAN CHIME IN IF YOU WANT TO JUST HIT YOUR BUTTON. 
          >> I LOST MY PLACE. >> THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION TO THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING BEING NOT PERPENDICULAR TO THE STREET. 
          ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PUMPS ARE TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING. 
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CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE ON WHY WE WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING ON THE 
          SAME SIDE AS THE PUMPS? >> IT'S MORE A VISIBILITY ASPECT WITH IT BEING A ONE-WAY DIRECTION ON THIS SITE. 
          AS YOU COME FROM THE EAST YOU WILL SEE THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING, SO YOU ESSENTIALLY SEE THAT LOWER LEFT AND ELEVATION. 
          SO OUR CONCERN IS REALLY JUST A BLANK WALL. 
          THEY DID PROVIDE SOME ELEMENTS TO IT, WITH THE WALMART AND THE BLUE-COLLAR IN. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON WEST ELEVATION, YOU HAVE ENTRANCE, A CANOPY IT'S OVERWRITTEN, WINDOWS. IT PROVIDES A MORE PRESENTABLE FRONT, AS I PROVIDED WITH THOSE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT ARE ALONG THE SITE. OLDER SITES PROVIDE THAT FRONT FINISH AS YOU ARE SPEEDING BY. SO IT'S A HIGHLY VISUAL AND HIGHLY TRAVELED CORPORATE OR. AND THAT WAS WHY THE PD WAS ADOPTED. AS THE MAYOR INDICATED THAT'S WHY STAFF RECOMMENDS NOT SUPPORTING IT. 
          >> EVEN IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS ELEVATION ON THE EAST, WOULDN'T THERE BE-- ACCORDING TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, QUITE A FEW PIECES OF LANDSCAPE IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING? 
          >> THEY PROVIDED SOME LANDSCAPING ON THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. BUT THE LANDSCAPING THEY ARE PROPOSING, WE ARE CONCERNED THE HEIGHT WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO HIDE THE BUILDING SUFFICIENTLY ENOUGH. 
          PERHAPS IT WAS TREES, OR CANOPY, OR PERHAPS ORNAMENTALS. 
          SO THAT WAS OUR OTHER CONCERN. BUT LIKE I SAID, THE USE AND THE WAY THEY CONFIGURED THE BUILDING ON THE SITE, THOSE WERE THE 
          CONCERNS WE HAD AS STAFF. >> ONE FINAL QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE RESPONSES. CAN YOU HELP ME-- I HATE TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED. BUT HOW MANY OTHER LARGE RETAIL OUTLETS ALLOWED GASOLINE? HEB, WE JUST APPROVED THAT, ARE THERE OTHERS IN THE CITY THAT WE ALLOW GASOLINE TO BE THERE FOR? 
          >> H EV IS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND. 
          KROGER. >> ALBERTSONS HAS A GAS STATION ON THE PARCEL, THE WALMART UP THE STREET HAS A GAS STATION ON 
          THE PREMISE. >> I GUESS MY POINT THERE IS THAT WE HAVE A PRECEDENCE WHERE WE'VE ALLOWED GASOLINE SALES AT RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE THIS. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? 
          >> AT THOSE LOCATIONS, YES. >> I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTION. 
          >> MAYOR PRO TEM AXBERG. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER HAS SHOWED HIS EXPERTISE, BUT ALSO HAS ANSWERED JUST ABOUT ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER. 
          I DO HAVE TWO MORE THAT I NEED CLARIFICATION ON. 
          IN THE SAME VEIN. THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HERE, THAT'S TRAINING BELLS, CORRECT? I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN THAT STAFF DOES. AS YOU'RE DRIVING YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH. NORTH OF TRINITY MILLS. 
          THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S THEY ARE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT MUCH DETAIL. BUT IT WOULD LOOK KIND OF ODD TO BE ABLE TO JUST SEE THE BACK OF A BUILDING AS YOU GO BACK TRINITY MILLS-- DOWN TRINITY MILLS. 
          THAT WAS THE CONCERN? >> CORRECT. 
          >> AND THE STEPS CONCERN WAS THAT LANDSCAPING DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT? IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> WE FEEL IT DOES NOT DO ENOUGH TO ADDRESS IT. 
          >> AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, IT PERTAINS ALSO TO THE OTHER GROCERY STORES. ARE THEY UNDER THE SAME TYPE OF P.E.D., WITH NO SUP, WHERE THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT, OR DOES THE CITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW? FOR EXAMPLE, IF-- I'M TRYING TO THINK OF-- IF TOM THUMB WANTED TO PUT A GAS STATION THINKING-- IN NORTHWEST CARROLLTON, WITH THAT NEED AND SUP? CORRECT? AND DO THE SUP'S ATTACHED TO ALBERTSONS AND KROGER AND ALL OF THOSE? OR ARE THEY P.E.D. BY RIGHT AT THOSE LOCATIONS? 
          >> SOME OF THOSE ARE OLDER. POSE OTHER AREAS. 
          THEY MAY HAVE PREEXISTED WHEN WE ARE-- REQUIRED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          IF A GROCERY OF ANY KIND OR ANY USER WANTS TO PUT A GAS STATION IN FOR RETAIL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR NSU P. 
          AS A REQUIREMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN OUR RETAIL ZONING 
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          DISTRICT. >> I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE STICKING POINT IS FOR ME. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PUSH FOR P.E.D. AS OPPOSED TO AS SOUPY. 
          AND IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, WITH THE P.E.D. IT TAKES THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW ANYTHING IF WALMART LEAVES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEN THE PUD WOULD REMAIN, AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY KIND OF CITY REVIEW. AT LEAST WITH NSU P THERE WOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF REVIEW OR OVERSIGHT FROM THE CITY FOR THE 
          CHANGES AND LAND-USE. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. 
          ACTUALLY, IT WOULD ALMOST BE THE SAME THING. 
          WITH THIS ONE, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST ONE YOU ALL LOOKED AT. THIS PROHIBITS IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          BY SUP OR BY RIGHT. SO THEY MUST COME IN TO AMEND THE P.E.D. THAT SAID, GO WITH ME HERE. 
          LET'S SAY IT WAS OWNED RETAIL. JUST RETAIL. 
          TO MAKE LIFE SIMPLE. THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THESE ELEVATIONS, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEIR FACADE PLAN, ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME WITH IT. ALL THE SUP'S THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU, UNLESS IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE RENDERINGS AND A SITE PLAN. 
          THE DIFFERENCES WITH THIS ONE, THE P.E.D. SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T ALLOW IT WITH AND SUP. SO THEY HAVE TO GET IT IN THIS 
          INSTANCE. >> THE PUD-- P.E.D. WILL REQUIRE THE LANDSCAPING AND EVERY ASPECT WERE LOOKING AT. 
          AS OPPOSED TO AND SUP, THAT PERHAPS IS RAISED FOR A GAS 
          STATION. >> RIGHT. 
          BUT IT TO WOULD HAVE TO BE FOLLOWING THE CONCEPT PLANNER. 
          >> FOR ME, IF I CAN GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL AND DISCUSSION, BUT FOR ME I'M THINKING THAT STAFF IS PROBABLY-- ONE OF THE CONCERNS I WOULD SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT STAFF'S CONCERN IS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW THIS IN THE FUTURE IS BASICALLY TAKEN AWAY. 
          IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE, OR IF THE PUD THERE-- WITH THAT CHANGE, THAT LIMITS THE CITY AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT LEVEL OF REVIEW WITH SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOESN'T? 
          >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT REALLY COMES DOWN SPECIFICALLY, NUMBER 1 TO THE LAND-USE. 
          THEY ARE MODIFYING THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS IT. SO WHAT YOU AS A BODY ARE CONSIDERING IS THE USE APPROPRIATE? FROM STAFF STANDPOINT. THE HISTORY IS THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN ALLOWED AT ALL. EVEN WITH NSU P. 
          SO THE ONLY MEANS OF MODIFYING OR ALLOWING IT IS TO AMEND IT. 
          SO THAT IS OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST CONCERN. 
          AND THE COURT OR, WITH THE CHANGES GOING ON IN THAT CORRIDOR, WE FEEL WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO ENFORCE IT. 
          BUT THAT'S A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. >> THAT SEE CLARITY I WAS LOOKING FOR THEN. THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCILMEMBER DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMBO. 
          >> THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT CAN BE CONFUSING FOR LAYMAN'S TERMS. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS DO WE HAVE-- I KNOW YOU SHOWED THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS ON THE WESTBOUND-- EASTBOUND. SIDE OF TRINITY MILLS. 
          BUT WHERE THERE ANY SHONE ON THE WESTBOUND SIDE? 
          >> THERE ARE NONE. >> THERE ARE NINE. 
          THERE IS ONLY THREE RIGHT NOW. >> SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THIS AREA. THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED. 
          I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF IS SAYING TO DENY THIS? 
          SUP? >> TO CLARIFY, THAT-- STAFF MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS IN LINE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND USE. THAT COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED. 
          SO EVEN IF IT WAS A 1994 COUNCIL, IT STILL THE COUNCIL. 
          SO STAFF CAN ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COMPLY WITH THE ZONING CODE AS IT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY CANNOT RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT VIOLATES THE ZONING THAT YOU AS A BODY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S YOUR 1994 BODY, ADOPTED. 
          >> THIRTY-TWO YEARS AGO. TIMES HAVE CHANGED. 
          WITH THAT I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS CHANGE. 
          >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          >> ONE ITEM I FORGOT TO MENTION. MY APOLOGIES. 
          IF YOU DO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORTED, THERE WAS A STIPULATION IN THE CASE REPORT THAT THE APPLICANT HAD ADDRESSED. THEY HAD TO DO WITH WE WANTED THEM TO UPGRADE THE FACADE PER PNC. 
          AND THEY DID NOT DO SO. SO THAT'S REFLECTED OF THE 
          CONCEPT PLANS. >> AS WE GET TO THAT POINT, 
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WHOEVER GETS-- MAKES A MOTION CAN DO THAT. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WITH AN APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A 
          STATEMENT? >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE 
          RECORD PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM WITH KINLEY HORAN. 
          THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          WE HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION. THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ALREADY. SO TRY NOT TO REITERATE WHAT YOU DISCUSSED. AS STATED, WE ARE HERE TO AMEND THE P.E.D. THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          TO ALLOW FOR A FUEL STATION USE. THE REASON WE ARE HERE IS THAT PER THE P.E.D. WE CANNOT COME BEFORE YOU WITH AN SUP REQUEST. 
          SO WE ARE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES WE HAVE. 
          THE REASON WHY WALMART WANTS TO PUT A FUEL STATION HERE IS THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          NOT JUST EXISTING CUSTOMERS, BUT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. 
          AS WAS STATED BY SEVERAL OF YOU EARLIER. 
          ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD THERE IS NOT A FUEL STATION FOR 3 MILES. AS IT IS, IS ONE WAY FOR ANYONE HEADING WESTBOUND. THERE'S NOT A A CONVENIENT PLACE TO GET GAS. I TYPICALLY GET GAS ON SATURDAYS WHEN I GO TO THE GROCERY STORE BECAUSE MY KROGER HAS A FUEL STATION. OR ON MY WAY TO WORK. 
          WHATEVER THE FASTEST WAY IN OR OUT IS. 
          TO NOT MAKE MY COMMUTE ANY LONGER. 
          ON TOP OF THAT, WALMART AS A WHOLE FEELS LIKE A SERVICE ADDED TO THE COMMUNITY IS A WIN. THEY HAVE BEEN PROUDLY SERVING THIS COMMUNITY SINCE 2001. AND THEY CONTINUALLY REMODEL THAT STORY TO BRING IT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS WITH AN ANTICIPATED REMODEL COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE ABOUT 300 ASSOCIATES AT THE STORES. 
          THEY BRING LOTS OF JOBS TO THE CITY. 
          AND WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT WITH THE FUEL STATION. I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE CAME ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE FUEL STATION ON THE SITE AND THE ORIENTATION AS DISCUSSED. SO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT DOES HAVE THIS AREA OF THE PARKING LOT THAT IS SEPARATED FROM THE STORE WITH THE DRIVE I'LL. 
          SO IT'S NOT UTILIZED BY CUSTOMERS. 
          BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT TO PARTERRE AND WALK OVER. 
          THE SITE IS CURRENTLY OVER PART ACCORDING TO YOUR CODE. 
          BUT THIS IS JUST NOT THE BEST USE OF THE SITE. 
          WITH THE NARROW AREA WE HAD TO WORK WITH. 
          NOT WANTING TO IMPACT THE DRIVE I'LL IN TO THE SITE, THAT LED TO THE ORIENTATION THAT WE HAD TODAY. 
          UNDERSTAND THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT VISIBILITY. 
          I HEARD FROM STAFF, DON'T LET THE FUEL STATION STAND OUT SO MUCH ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. SO WE DO FEEL THIS ORIENTATION, BECAUSE IT TAKES UP LESS OF THE FRONTAGE IS ACTUALLY MORE VISIBLY PLEASING. AND IT ALSO HAS BUT WE WANT TO WORK WITH. AS A POINT WAS MADE EARLIER, FOR OPERATIONS YOU WANT THE KIOSK, THE CONVENIENCE STORE TO FACE THE PUMPS. OTHERWISE YOU HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN. IF THEY ARE HAVING TO WALK AROUND THE BUILDING TO GET TO THE FRONT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE. IF YOU WANT TO GET GAS. 
          WE DID A TIA. IT DID NOT SHOW ANY IMPROVEMENTS WERE WARRANTED. HOWEVER, WE HAVE CITY STAFF AND WE WILL INSTALL A TURN LANE HERE TO HELP WITH CUSTOMERS EASING GETTING IN A NOTE OF THE SITE. AND WE ALSO ARE PROVIDING ENHANCED LANDSCAPE HERE AT THE SITE, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING 60% ABOVE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR TREES AND 70% ABOVE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR OVERALL GREEN SPACE. 
          WE DID GET RECOMMENDATIONS AT-- AND WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE THE EAST ELEVATION IS GOING TO BE SO PROMINENT EVEN THOUGH IT'S AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, WE WANTED TO SEE ENHANCEMENTS TO THAT. SOME THINGS WE DID BEFORE LAST MONTH WAS ADDING THE BLUE BADGE AND THE WALMART SPARK TO THE BACK SO IT LOOKS MORE LIKE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. 
          WE ALSO ADDED THE LIGHT GRAY KIND OF HORIZONTAL BAND AROUND THE BUILDING THAT WAS ADDED TO BREAK UP FACADE AS WELL. 
          BEFORE COMING HERE IT WAS WORTH-- WORKING WITH STAFF WE HAD DONE THE ENHANCEMENTS. ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS FUEL STATION AND THE IMAGES YOU SAW OF ALL THE FUEL STATIONS ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS WE ARE PROVIDING THE STONE UP THE COLUMNS AT THE CANOPY. THAT WILL MATCH THE COATING OF THE BUILDING. SO WE THINK THIS IS A VERY VISUAL PLEASING FUEL STATION. AND HERE IS THE RENDERINGS THAT 
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STAFF PRESENTED. WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY 
          QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> REMIND ME, YOU ARE WITH 
          KIMLEY HORN? >> WITH KIMLEY HORN. 
          >> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CLINE. 
          >> I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HOW MANY GAS PUMPS ARE YOU ALL 
          PLANNING TO HAVE? >> THIS ONE WILL HAVE SIX. 
          >> SIX PERIOD, THAT'S IT? NOT STACKED OR ANYTHING? 
          >> SIX PUMPS, 12 PEELING POSITIONS. 
          >> OKAY. >> YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT THERE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT EACH SIDE OF THE PUMP, THEY ARE NOT DOUBLE STACK. 
          THEY ARE ALL IN ONE. >> NOW THAT I KNOW SOME HAVE LONGER POSES SOMEHOW SHORT HOSES, ARE YOU A LONG HOSE OR A 
          SHORT HOSE LACE? >> I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW THE 
          ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. >> MY MAIN CONCERN IS MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE KROGER WHERE I LIVE HAS A HORRIBLE GAS STATION. MY CONCERN LOOKING AT YOUR LAYOUT IS THE SOUTHWEST DRIVEWAY. 
          CLOSEST TO THE MAIN ENTRY IN TO WALMART. 
          CURRENTLY THAT IS AN INNER ONLY DRIVEWAY. 
          AND YOU ALL HAVE IT AS AN EXIT ALONG WITH THE ONE JUST TO THE EAST OF IT IS ALSO IN AND OUT. AND WAS THAT PART OF YOUR 
          TRAFFIC ANALYSIS? >> CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT 
          QUESTION? >> I THINK SHE MIGHT FOLLOW ME. 
          AS YOU ENTER IN TO THE MAIN DRIVEWAY AND GO TO WALMART, YOU MAKE A RIGHT TO GO TO THE GAS STATION. 
          AND CURRENTLY THAT FIRST DRIVEWAY IS MARKED ON AERIALS AS INNER ONLY-- ENTER ONLY. THAT FIRST DRIVEWAY YOU SEE. 
          AND THE SECOND DRIVEWAY THAT GOES IN FRONT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE IS TWO WAY. AND YOU ALL HAVE THEM BOTH AS IN AND OUT. AND I THINK THEY ARE CLOSELY SPACED FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THAT. 
          I AM CURIOUS IF THAT WAS PART OF YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY? 
          >> JUST TO CLARIFY, IT SAYS EXISTING SIDEWALK? 
          >> I THINK SHE IS TALKING ABOUT THE WORD "SIDEWALK" RIGHT THERE. 
          >> YOU ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW THAT ONLY ALLOWS YOU TO TURN RIGHT? 
          >> THE ONE THAT GOES BY THE FUEL LOADING IS IN ENTER ONLY. 
          -- CURRENTLY. >> WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE ORIENTATION. WHERE IT SAYS THE FUEL LOADING, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAD NORTH AND THERE IS A DEEP DELINEATOR 
          DRIVE. >> CURRENTLY YOU CANNOT GO SOUTH ALONG THAT FUEL LOADING AND GET OUT ON TO THE EAST-WEST DRIVE. 
          CURRENTLY THAT STOP DOES NOT EXIST. 
          >> I SEE IT. AT THE TOP THERE. 
          RTI DID EVALUATE THE FLOW OF THE SITE, AND WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS 
          GIVES CUSTOMERS. >> WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING PEOPLE CAN SEE EACH OTHER THERE? 
          >> YES. WITH WALMART SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A THIRD-PARTY REVIEW WITH LANDSCAPE THAT REVIEWS THE VISIBILITY AS THEIR-- VISIBILITY IS THEIR 
          PRIORITY. >> MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND HOW CLOSE THAT IS SPACED AT THAT FOUR WAY INTERSECTION AND THE OTHER DRIVEWAY IT'S COMPETING WITH. 
          PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT HAVE THAT THEY ARE THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          BUT, MOVING ON. THAT WAS ALL I HAD. 
          THANK YOU. >> OKAY. 
          OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOW ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION. 
          I DON'T HAVE CARDS FOR THIS ITEM. 
          BUT IF YOU WISH TO WEIGHT IN YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. 
          SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE UP PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          AND IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ARE THE APPLICANT, WE WILL HEAR THOSE NOW. COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER? 
          >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH-- INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IN 1998 I OPENED THE ORIGINAL WALMART 1216 ACROSS THE STREET. SO IT'S FASCINATING THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, TO ADD 
          THIS FACILITY TO THIS PD. >> COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND. 
          BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WALMART HAS BEEN A GREAT COMMUNITY STORE FOR DECADES. AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL 
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LOVE HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET GAS AT WALMART. 
          >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER, TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 20, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER PLC 2026-2017, WALMART GAS STATION. 
          AS I REFLECT ON THIS CASE, TO ME THIS IS A CASE THAT REALLY ILLUSTRATES THIS COUNCIL AND HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED. 
          BEING BUSINESS-FRIENDLY TO A DEGREE IN CAROLINE-- CARROLLTON. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ANY GROCERY STORES NOWADAYS RELY ON HAVING A SITE FOR GAS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ASKING FOR. WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE DELIBERATIONS SOME OF THE OTHERS FROM CARROLLTON, IF THEY WERE AT SITES OWNED-- OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE GROCERY STORE, OR IF THEY WERE SITES INDEPENDENTLY OPERATED. 
          IT IS A BUSINESS MODEL THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          I HAVE THE NATIONAL GROCERY ASSOCIATION EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FOR DECADES NOW THEY HAVE REALLY ADOPTED. WHICH IS PUTTING THESE SITES ON THE PREMISES TO HELP SUPPORT THE GROCERY ENVIRONMENT. 
          IT'S ALSO A CONVENIENCE FOR THE CUSTOMERS. 
          PLEASED TO HEAR SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          NOT TO BE OUTDONE, BUT MY FIRST JOB WAS AT A SHELL STATION ACROSS THE STREET OF TRINITY MILLS. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO SINCERELY ECHO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH WALMART, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS BEING MADE TO BE ABLE TO BEAUTIFY THE BUILDING. BECAUSE IT IS A THOROUGH FARE OF CARROLLTON. WE WANT THAT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL AND 94-- THE COUNCIL AND 94, I'M SURE THAT COUNCILMEMBER, OR OUR-- A COUNCILMEMBER OR OUR MAYOR WAS ON AND 94. PROBABLY TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP TRINITY MILLS BEAUTIFUL AND HAVE IT BE NICE TO STATICALLY. 
          BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED. AND I APPRECIATE WALMART'S 
          EFFORTS IN KEEPING IT THAT WAY. >> FOR THE RECORD, I WAS NOT ON 
          IN 1994. >> COUNCILMEMBER AND DEPUTY 
          MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMO. >> MY FIRST JOB WAS NOT AT WALMART OR THE GAS STATION. BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND. I'VE BEEN TO MANY BLACK FRIDAYS AT WALMARTS WHEN THAT WAS A THING. 
          BEFORE ONLINE SHOPPING. AND EVEN THIS PART OF THE PARKING LOT WAS NOT FILLED. I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF LOWE'S. 
          BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY THIS WILL BE A GREAT USE OF THE LAND AND I'M REALLY EXCITED AND I'M GLAD IT'S COMING TO THIS AREA. 
          THANK YOU. >> AND I WANT TO THANK THE DEVELOPERS AND THE ENGINEERING FIRM AT WALMART FOR PURPOSEFULLY AND INTENTIONALLY PUTTING THE PUMPS PERPENDICULAR TO THE THOROUGHFARE. I THINK-- I WOULD HATE TO THINK WE WOULD HAVE 12 GAS PUMPS ALONG THE STRETCH OF TRINITY MILLS. 
          THIS MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF BETTER SENSE. 
          >> COUNCILMEMBER CARPENTER? >> I APOLOGIZE, I BELIEVE I NEED TO AMEND MY MOTION AS STIPULATED. 
          I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. >> FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> THE MOTION OF COUNCIL AS TO 
          APPROVE THE CASE AS STIPULATED. >> I HAVE AN OBSERVATION. 
          >> IF YOU DRIVE WESTBOUND DOWN FURNACE ROAD YOU WILL NOTICE THAT YOU CAN EVEN REALLY TELL WHAT'S THERE. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT WALL IS AS YOU DRIVE IN FRONT OF THIS SECTION. 
          IT MAYBE THAT WHAT WERE ALL WORRIED ABOUT MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE 
          GAS STATION THERE. >> WITH THAT I HAVE NO MORE LIGHTS. I WILL CALL THE VOTE. 
          [PUBLIC FORUM]
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL AND TO WALMART. COUNCIL AT THAT THAT TAKES US TO ARE PUBLIC FORUM THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, NOT ON THE AGENDA, TO DO SO. RULES ARE IN THE RIGHT UP THERE. 
          I BLESS THAT YOU RESPECT THOSE UNFOLLOW THOSE. 
          BUT MY FIRST SPEAKER IS RUSSELL DUKE. 
          MR. DUKE, YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES WHEN YOU START 
          TALKING. >> I DID NOT BRING ANY FANCY 
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SLIDES. BUT I DO HAVE SOME PICTURES. 
          THREATS ARE A BAD THING. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT COMES FROM THE MAYOR OR SOMEBODY ELSE. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE THREATENED. 
          AND IN THIS CASE BY A TREATY. I'M SURE THAT 50 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, WHEN THIS LITTLE TREE WAS PLANTED, IT'S THE CUTEST LITTLE TREE YOU HAVE EVER SEEN. BUT 50 YEARS LATER, IT IS A THREAT. EXCUSE ME. 
          RUSSELL DUKE. NUMBER 3 COUNTRY LAKE DRIVE. 
          CARROLLTON TEXAS. BUT IT IS-- IT HAS OUTGROWN WHERE IT WAS PLANTED. THERE ARE 20 LITTLE TOWNHOMES IN A ROW ON CURRENT-- COUNTRY LAKE DRIVE AND COUNTRY PLACE. 
          AND THERE ARE BREAKS BETWEEN THEM. 
          ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. 
          EVERYONE IN THAT ARC UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO TAKE THE TREE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS IT HAS CAUSED. 
          RECENTLY, NUMBER 1, A LIMB FELL OFF A TREE. 
          IT FORTUNATELY DID NOT HIT A PERSON. 
          BUT A LIMITED HIT-- IT DIDN'T KILL SOMEONE, BUT IT HIT HIS LEG AND BROKE IT. MORE RECENTLY, A MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH, JESSE BROOKS, WAS KILLED BY A LIMB FALLING OFF OF A TREE. 
          GOT US TO THINKING. THIS TREE IS VERY DANGEROUS. 
          SO WE HAD EIGHT DIFFERENT TREE SPECIALISTS COME IN AND LOOK AT THE TREE AND GIVE US THEIR EVALUATION ON IT. 
          THEY SHOWED US PICTURES OF WHERE THE TREE WAS CRACKING. 
          SIGNIFICANT TRACKS IN THE TREE. WHICH I UNDERSTAND ARE FAIRLY COMMON FOR WILD OAK TREES. BUT WHEN THESE LIMBS BREAK OFF, THIS IS WHERE THEY BREAK, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT CRACKS IN THE TREE. ALSO OUR NEIGHBOR IN NUMBER 7 HAS HAD ROOT PROBLEMS THAT HAVE DESTROYED HIS PLUMBING SYSTEM. 
          AND WE'VE TOLD THAT THEY'VE BEEN INVADING HOURS IN NUMBER 3. 
          SIMILAR EXPERIENCES FOUR FROM, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN. 
          BUT SIX IS NOT THERE MOST OF THE TIME. 
          HE SAYS HE OWNS 15 HOUSES. BUT IT'S A CONCERN TO ALL OF US. 
          WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO HAVE THE TREE REMOVED, BUT WE ARE DENIED THAT BY THE COUNTRY PLACE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          IT DOES AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE OF TRYING TO GET A LOWER PRICE ON YOUR HOME INSURANCE, BUT WE RECENTLY DID. AND WE WERE TOLD NO. 
          STATE FARM WOULD NOT INSURE OUR HOMES BECAUSE OF THIS TREE. 
          THEY LOOKED AT IT AND SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          BECAUSE OF THE DANGER THIS TREE-- RIGHT HERE-- I LIVE RIGHT HERE. AND THAT IS WHERE I SLEEP. 
          THEY TOLD US THAT IF THAT TREE LIMB BREAKS AND FALLS IN THIS FASHION IT WILL PROBABLY JUST SCRAPE OR TERO PART OF THAT WALL. BUT IF IT'S MORE OF A TIMBER THING WHERE THE CRACK SHOW, IT CAN KILL ME. 
          AND THAT WOULD NOT MAKE ME HAPPY. 
          I WOULD BE VERY UNHAPPY IF THIS TREE KILLED ME. 
          >> I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO WRAP UP. 
          >> WE ASK THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO REMOVE IT, THEY REFUSED, AND THEY THREATENED US WITH A LETTER THAT SAYS THAT WE SO MUCH AS TRIM THE TREE, WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS OUR LEGAL RIGHT TO DO, THAT THEY WOULD PURSUE LEGAL ACTIONS. 
          I'M BEGGING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER COMPELLING HISTORY REMOVAL BEFORE DAMAGES TO HOME AND LIFE GET WORSE. 
          >> ANNUALLY THOSE EXHIBITS WITH US AND WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK INTO THIS? ALL RIGHT. 
          SOMEBODY WILL BE IN TOUCH. THANK YOU. 
          THAT COMPLETES OUR PUBLIC FORUM. BUT I WILL INVITE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS, TO APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. 
          SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM. 
          AND WITH THA
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