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          >> I'LL WRITE COUNCIL, WELCOME TO OUR SEPTEMBER 15TH SESSION. 
          WE WILL START WITH JUST WALK THROUGH CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS STARTING WITH MINUTES NUMBER 8 AND 9. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR EDITS OR CONCERNS ON THE MINUTES AS POSTED CAN WE ALL RIGHT NUMBER 10. 
          LET ME ALSO JUST SAY WE ARE GOING TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 13 WILL BE PULLED FOR A SEPARATE CONSIDERATION. 
          SO IT'S THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AND THEN TURN TO ITEM 13 FOR COMMENT. NUMBER 10 IS CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER'S INTO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH INSTITUTE THROUGHOUT, OR THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES, CONTRACT NUMBER DIR, CPO4699, FOR ENTERPRISE GIS SOFTWARE LICENSING, AN AMOUNT OF $157,564, IN A THREE YEAR TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 472 -- I. SAID AN AMOUNT OF $157,564, IN THREE YEAR TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $472,692. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM CAN WE OKAY NUMBER 11 CONSIDER AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 1 WITH ESO SOLUTIONS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RECORDS MANAGEMENT SOLUTION. AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 61,461, AND $0.55, INCREASING THE TOTAL PROJECT CONTRACT TO 307. 
          307.75. >> QUESTION. 
          I'M A LITTLE FUZZY ABOUT HOW IT BREAKS DOWN INTO FIVE YEARS 245,000 DIVIDED BY NINE IS 49,000 SO THE 61,000 IS A LITTLE 
          CONFUSING FOR ME. >> OKAY. 
          >> I WILL CLEAR THAT RIGHT UP. >> I'M THE FIRE CHIEF. 
          SO THIS IS ACTUALLY DUE TO SOME UNEXPECTED COSTS WITH THE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY UNFUNDED MANDATES BY THE STATE THAT CREATED A MANDATORY OVERDOSE REPORTING SYSTEM. 
          SO WE HAD TO ADD A MODULE THAT COST ADDITIONAL FUNDS. 
          SECONDARILY WE HAD TO ADD A NEW MODULE WHEN WE APPROVED THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE TO 2024 VERSION. 
          THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL MODULE THEY CHARGE US FOR, UPDATED OUR FIRE CODE. THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS WHEN WE FIRST GOT ON WITH ISO THEY TOLD US WE WOULD HAVE FULL ACCESS TO OUR DATA. IT'S NOT EXACTLY 100% THE WAY IT NEEDED TO WORK FOR US THE WAY ANALYSTS USED THAT DATA SO WE BASICALLY UPGRADE TO A SNOWFLAKE SYSTEM WHICH PROVIDES A FULL DATA SUITE SO WE CAN DO OUR OWN DATA ANALYSIS OUTSIDE OF THEIR CANNED REPORTS AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST. 
          >> IT'S LIKE A CORRECTION OF THE ORIGINAL CALCULATION? THANK YOU. OKAY MOVING ON. 
          NUMBER 12 CONSIDER AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO RENEW AGREEMENTS WITH VARIOUS FURNITURE VENDORS THROUGH INTERLOCAL CO-OP AGREEMENTS WITH COLLIN COUNTY GOVERNMENT PURCHASER'S FORUM AND COLLIN COUNTY COLLEGE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $880,000 
          FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. >> WE ARE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO SPEND $880,000 ON FURNITURE IN 2027? 
          >> I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. 
          >> THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. >> MOST OF THAT IS DUE TO THE FIRE STATIONS COMING ONLINE SO THIS COVERS PURCHASES OF ALL THE FURNITURE COMING WITH THE FIRE STATIONS. 
          WE DO IT AS ONE BLANKET SO IT COVERS EVERYTHING. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO NUMBER 13 AGAIN. 
          WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE SEPARATELY SO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WILL BE ITEMS NUMBER 8 THROUGH 12 AND THEN 14 AND 15, BUT NUMBER 13 WE HAVE A COMPANION ITEM ON THIS SO WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS ON THIS AS WE GET THROUGH COMPANION WORK 
          SESSION ITEM. >> WILL THE CHIEF BE AVAILABLE 
          CAN WE. >> YEP. 
          >> CHIEF AS WELL AS ANYBODY HE DELEGATES TO. 
          NUMBER 14, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH METRO CAR SERVICES, FOR SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED TO CARROLLTON RESIDENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, 27 FISCAL YEAR. 629-0092 FOR THE AGENDA WHICH 
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INCLUDES 113000. ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. NUMBER 15 IS ALSO A COMMUNITY GRANT WITH THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER FOR 10,400,037, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 26, 27 CONTRACT YEAR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS. AN TO SWITCH BACK TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEM. AN TO START ACTUALLY WITH INFORMATION SHARING SO I'LL JUST TAKE THIS BACKWARDS SO COUNCIL 
          MEMBER CLINE. >> BACKWARDS? MIX IT UP. OKAY SENIORITY. 
          BACKWARDS. SO I JUST WOULD ASK THAT WE CONSIDER AN ITEM SOMETIME ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY OWNS LIKE ENTITY PROPERTY OR I-35, THE DOWNTOWN AND THEN MY MAIN CONCERN IS HACIENDA AND IF THERE'S ANY LEFT ON CROSBY THAT YOU CAN DO. I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          SO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ITEM. 
          >> THAT'S A SIMPLE REQUEST. WHETHER IT'S A WORK SESSION ITEM OR AN ITEM I THINK WE CAN SHARE IT. 
          >> AND I APPRECIATED YOUR SPEAKING AT THE IRVING INFRASTRUCTURE FORUM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE LEGISLATION AFFECTING CITIES BECOMES. 
          >> ME TO PEER COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING. 
          >> MR. MAYOR I HAVE NOTHING NEW. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EITHER. >> COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR. 
          >> THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS PAST SATURDAY I. ATTENDED THE GIVING GARDEN WHICH IS SURPRISINGLY VERY INFORMATIVE FOR ME. I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW BIG IT WAS OR EXACTLY WHAT WAS GROWING THERE. 
          SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE COMMUNITY GIVING BACK AND PROVIDING 50% OF ALL THE CROPS BACK TO METROCREST SERVICES AND OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES FOOD TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WAS A GREAT. AND THEN I ALSO ATTENDED THE ANNUAL CPC A CASINO NIGHT WHICH WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. 
          LOTS OF PEOPLE AND I KNOW THERE ARE SIMULTANEOUS EVENTS GOING ON SO IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO GET A LOT OF COUNCIL REPRESENTATION THERE BUT IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESSFUL NIGHT. 
          THEY RAISED A LOT OF FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY HANDLE INCLUDING CHRISTMAS AND DEEP BLUE SANTA. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. >> ONE LAST THING. 
          TODAY IS THE BEGINNING OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH SO SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH IS A TIME WHERE WE REFLECT ON THE DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF HISPANIC COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT FOR THIS MONTH. 
          >> EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BOOKMARK IN TERMS OF THE SOME OF THE LIBRARY AND OTHER EVENTS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE NEXT 30 DAYS. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM 
          CARPENTER. >> THIS PAST SATURDAY I. HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK AT THEIR 90TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION AND HAD A GREAT TIME MEETING WITH THEM AND OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS. 
          THEY WERE ALSO CELEBRATING OUR 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE BIRTH OF OUR NATION WHICH WAS FANTASTIC TO SEE SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. AND TO SPEAK FOR US. 
          >> ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER WATTERS. 
          >> WE HAD SOME RIBBON CUTTING FOLLY IN THE RESTAURANT ON GEORGE BUSH AND THEN WE HAD YESTERDAY THE MOST AMAZING FACILITY, AND THEN THIS AFTERNOON WE HAD THE M&A, SORT OF ANOTHER RIBBON CUTTING AFTER SO MANY YEARS IN CARROLLTON. 
          IT WAS VERY FASCINATING TO SEE HOW SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE IN CARROLLTON ARE SORT OF INTERRELATED. 
          SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY SORT OF NETWORKING EVENT FOR ALL OUR BUSINESSES HERE MAYBE I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH RAVI ON THAT ONE AND FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND 
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GROW THEIR BUSINESSES TOGETHER. AND THEN OF COURSE MY FIRST THING WITH NAC AND I WAS TOTALLY AMAZED WITH THE RANGE OF SERVICES THAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I HAD A LOT OF FUN ON SATURDAY. THE PUSH PULL PARTY. 
          THAT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY WEEKEND. 
          >> THAT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT FOR MANY CANINES AND FURBABY PARENTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE CAN. BACK ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE NETWORKING, WE DO USE, WE WILL HAVE JENNY MAYBE SHARE SOME INFORMATION BUT OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS, OUR NETWORKING GROUP THAT WE TURN TO TO MAKE SURE BEST PRACTICES AND OTHER THINGS ARE SHARED SO WE'LL SEE ABOUT HAVING AN UPDATE FROM THE CHAMBER HERE AS WELL COUNCILMEMBER LISA SUTTER. 
          >> I WENT TO THE RIBBON CUTTING. AND IT'S A TEA AND CAFE AND IT WAS REALLY GOOD. VERY NICE AND I ENJOYED THAT RIBBON CUTTING. SATURDAY NIGHT I MANAGED TO PULL OFF TWO EVENTS. WENT TO NORTH TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER 10-YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND THAT WAS THE 911 CENTER THAT WE HAVE FOR THE FOUR CITIES THAT JOINED TOGETHER WAY BACK WHEN. ALSO MANAGED TO GO OVER TO THE CARROLLTON CITIZENS PATROL CASINO NIGHT FOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          JUST LONG ENOUGH TO SIGN UP AND HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY WINNING SOME STUFF SO THAT WAS NICE. AND I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT SATURDAY AT 3:00 AMERICAN LEGION IS HAVING THEIR CHILI COOKOFF. AND YOU CAN GO IN AND TASTE AND JUDGE IF YOU WANT TO TASTE AND DO YOUR OWN JUDGING YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. BRING YOUR ACID REFLUX MEDICINE BECAUSE I DID IT LAST YEAR AND IT WAS PRETTY TASTY. 
          [LAUGHTER] SO THAT'S IT FOR ME. 
          >> EXCELLENT. YEAH, LIKE YOU SAID, MY UPDATE, A LOT OF RIBBON CUTTINGS. WE HAD A GRAND OPENING FOR DAVI WHICH IS A ROLLING MANUFACTURER FOR WORLD METAL IF YOU WILL. 
          WHETHER THAT IS SUBMARINES, AIRCRAFT, WEAPONS LIKE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, BARGES ET CETERA THEY WERE RIGHT HERE IN CARROLLTON. 
          THEY MOVED FROM EDISON. THIS IS THEIR NORTH AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS. THEY'RE OUT OF ITALY. 
          THE LEAD SHAREHOLDER MR. DAVI AND THE PRESIDENT FROM ITALY WERE HERE AS WELL AS THE PLANT GENERAL MANAGER. 
          RAVI CACTUS STAFF WERE ALL THERE SO IT WAS A GOOD CELEBRATION. 
          THEY ARE SO EXCITED TO BE HERE. THEY SPOKE ACCOLADES OF ONE-STOP SHOP WITH RAVI AND HIS OWN TEAM IN TERMS OF PERMITTING. 
          BANK OF AMERICA WAS THE FINANCING PARTNER ON THIS. 
          BUT IT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF IT'S AN IDEAL PROFILE. 
          OUR IDEAL CUSTOMER PROFILE AND CARROLLTON. 
          THAT'S AN IDEAL MANUFACTURER RIGHT HERE OR SIMPLER IN CARROLLTON. SO IT'S OVER RIGHT OFF OF IN THE VALWOOD DISTRICT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE STADIUM. 
          IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE YOU GET TO VISIT WITH THEM IT'S A GOOD EVENT. WE ALSO HAVE GOLDEN JUBILEE EVENT FOR THE QUAD CITY AREA THIS LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. WHAT ELSE CAN WE I WANT TO REMIND US ALL THAT IN ADDITION TO HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH TODAY, OR THIS WEEK WE HAD ROSH HASHANAH WHICH IS THE JEWISH NEW YEAR AND YOM KIPPUR IS COMING UP THE 20TH THROUGH THE 21ST WHICH IS THEIR MOST HOLY DAY OF ATONEMENT FOR THE JEWISH COMMUNITY. KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL THAT WAS THE SAME HOLIDAY WHERE WE HAD A TERRORIST ATTACK OVER A YEAR AGO. 
          AND I DO WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON OCTOBER 27TH CHLOE WILL BE SENDING UP SOME DETAILS BUT WE WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION, JOINT WORK SESSION WITH CFP. IN TERMS OF ANY ITEMS FOR JOINT WORK SESSION TO COLLABORATE FROM AN AGENDA PERSPECTIVE SEND THOSE IDEAS TO CHLOE. SHE WILL CONSOLIDATE A LIST AND WE WILL CALL TOGETHER OUR VIEW OF WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE AND CFB TRUSTEES WILL DO THE SAME. SO THIS WILL BE, WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND MAYOR. BUT WE FELT IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO BRING TOGETHER OUR TRUSTEES AND OUR COUNCIL AND HAVE A COLLABORATIVE SESSION. SO THAT WILL BE ON THE 27TH. 
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IF YOU WILL SEND YOUR NOTES TO CHLOE AND THEN MAKE SURE CAN'T GIVE US, SHE WILL SCHEDULE IT AND JUST MAKE SURE YOU PUT EXCEPT OR DENY IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO. 
          IT WASN'T SCHEDULED SO IT'S MORE OR LESS ONE OF THOSE IF WE DON'T GET A FORUM WE WON'T HOLD IT BUT IDEALLY WE WILL GET IT AND IT WILL BE A WORK SESSION LIKE SIX TO SEVEN. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IT IS IN OFF TUESDAY FOR US. 
          >> I FORGOT ONE THING. I DID WANT US TO RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER WAS THE NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. 
          I PRAY FOR ALL THE FAMILIES OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH HORRIBLE EXPERIENCES AND I PRAY FOR THEM AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY COUNCIL. 
          WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT OUR WORK SESSION IN HERE. AND GIVEN SOME OF THE ATTENTION ON CLOCK WE WILL TAKE THE BALANCE OF OUR WORK SESSION FOR THE WORK SESSION ITEM OUT FROM THE DAIS. 
          POLICE ARREDONDO AND HIS COMMAND STAFF WILL BRIEF US OUT THERE IN TERMS OF THE WORK SESSION ITEM. AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE OUT OUR MEETING. CERTAINLY THAT'S A NORMAL WORK SESSION OUT THERE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE TAKING IT OUT THERE. 
          SO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. WE WILL THEN ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION AND ROLL IN TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING ONCE, RIGHT AT SEVEN AS NORMAL SCHEDULE. AND THEN AS I INDICATED WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 13 WHICH IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE WORK SESSION BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A SUBSET OF IT. WE WILL PICK UP OUT OF THE DAIS. 
          >> I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THAT. 
          SO ARE WE GOING TO RE-ASK THE QUESTIONS FROM THE WORK SESSION THEN WE'RE BACK? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE EVER DONE 
          THAT BEFORE. >> WORK SESSIONS HAVE BEEN HELD OUT AT THE DAIS IN THE PAST YEAR GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THE PEOPLE EXPECTED TO COME. 
          WE ARE GOING TO HOLD THE WORK SESSION ITEM AS PUBLISHED. 
          JUST AS WE WOULD IN HERE BUT FROM OUT THERE AND THEY ARE GOING TO BRIEF THAT WORK SESSION. 
          THE WORK SESSION REMINDER IS A BRIEFING ON POLICE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGIES. 
          CERTAINLY FLOPPED THE AGENDA 13 IS A SUBSET OF THAT. 
          ASK ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WOULD JUST AS YOU WOULD IN HERE. 
          IT WILL BE OUT THERE FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE THAT HAS GATHERED OR ENTERING TO HEAR FIRSTHAND. WHEN WE PICK UP THE NORMAL MEETING, THE SAME AS WITH ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS YOU ARE FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WHEN WE GET TO THE VOTE FOR ITEM 
          NUMBER 13 AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 
          MAKES A SENSE. >> WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START OUT OF THE DAIS AT TEN AFTER. SO IF YOU CAN JUST GET YOUR MATERIALS, AND WE WILL JUST OKAY COUNCIL WE WILL CONTINUE OUR WORK SESSION ITEM FOR ITEM NUMBER 4 WHICH IS TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON POLICE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGIES. FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE WE PULLED OUR WORK SESSION OUT OF THE WORK ROOM OUT HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN WHAT THIS NEXT ITEM HAS TO SAY. SO WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE JOINING US THROUGHOUT THIS WORK SESSION ITEM BEFORE WE START THE REGULAR MEETING AND TAKE NORMAL ACTION BUT WITH THAT CHIEF YOU'VE GOT 
          THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS ROBERT ARREDONDO I'M CHIEF OF POLICE OF THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TODAY. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CONSIDERATION COMBINING OUR FOUR CURRENT CONTRACTS INTO ONE CONTRACT. THEREFORE RENEWING THE CONTRACT FOR 67 FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READERS AND 15 PAN TILT ZOOM CAMERAS FOR A TOTAL OF 82 CAMERAS. 
          WE NEED THIS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE OUR CONTINUITY OF SUCCESS IN OUR OVERALL CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. 
          WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS. 
          WE HEAR FROM ASSISTANT CHIEF WEST AND COMMANDER WHITE. 
          THEN RETURNED TO CLOSE OUR PRESENTATION. 
          I WAS HIRED AS CHIEF OF POLICE ON JANUARY THIRD, 2023. 
          I BEGAN RESEARCHING THE DEPARTMENT BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022. IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 2022 I BEGAN RESEARCHING CARROLLTON CRIME TRENDS AND I LEARNED THERE WERE THREE VERY CONCERNING TRENDS. 
          I WALKED IN THE DOOR AND I HIT THE GROUND RUNNING TO REDUCE CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS, MUGGINGS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FENTANYL IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. OUR KIDS WERE BEING PREYED ON BY DRUG DEALERS. KIDS WERE DYING. 
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WE FACE NUMEROUS CHALLENGES NOT JUST EVOLVING CRIME, STAFFING WAS A CONCERN. LIKE ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY WE WERE STRUGGLING TO HIRE AND RETAIN OFFICERS. 
          THERE WERE HIGH EXPECTATIONS. NO MATTER OUR STAFFING SHORTAGES AND THERE WAS AN INCREASING DEMAND DUE TO GROWTH. 
          RETURNED TO TECHNOLOGY AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT OUR CRIME PLAN AND THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD WITH OUR CRIME FIGHTING STRATEGIES. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT FLOCK AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE CONTRACT. I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO ASSISTANT CHIEF WEST AND I'LL BE BACK AT THE END OF THE 
          PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS CALEB WEST. 
          ASSISTANT CHIEF POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M PLEASED TO STAND HERE TONIGHT TO BRAG ON OUR CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGY. NOW IN ITS FOURTH YEAR YOU HAVE SEEN THE RESULTS BUT THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU INSIGHT INTO HOW WE HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL. 
          IN THE PAST THE DEPARTMENT OPERATED IN A REACTIVE POSTURE TO CRIME. LIKE MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WE REVIEWED CRIME ON A 30 DAY CYCLE. 
          ADDITIONALLY THE DEPARTMENT LACKED SPECIALIZED UNITS AND TECHNOLOGY CAPABLE OF KEEPING UP WITH EVOLVING CRIME. 
          STARTING IN MID 2023 WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S EXECUTIVE TEAM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL THE DEPARTMENT BEGAN INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY. AT THE SAME TIME THE DEPARTMENT ROLLED OUT A NEW CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGY, INTELLIGENCE LED, DATA DRIVEN WITH A CLEAR FOCUS. PEOPLE, PLACES, BEHAVIOR, PARTNERSHIPS. WE KNOW THAT A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF CRIMES. WE ALSO KNOW WHILE AN OFFENDER IS IN CUSTODY THEY ARE NOT REOFFENDING. 
          ENHANCED FOCUS ON RELENTLESS FOLLOW UP TO GET OFFENDERS IN CUSTODY BEFORE THEY CAN REOFFEND HAS STARTED. 
          WE KNOW WHERE CRIME IS HAPPENING BUT WE ALSO KNOW IN CARROLLTON THE CRIME MOSTLY DOES NOT STICK AROUND LONG. 
          WE HAD TO EVOLVE BEYOND REVIEWING CRIME EVERY 30 DAYS. 
          WE NEEDED TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS AT THE TIME, LOCATION OF WHERE OFFENSES WERE OCCURRING. AT THE SAME TIME AREAS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WERE CREATING DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF CALLS FOR SERVICE CAUSING OFFICERS TO BE TIED UP AND UNAVAILABLE FOR PROACTIVE POLICE WORK YET WE WERE NOT FOCUSING ON THE PROBLEMS AT THESE LOCATIONS. RANDOM TACTICS GIVES YOU RANDOM RESULTS. A NEW FOCUS ON TARGETING THESE PLACES FOR POLICE ACTIVITY AND DEPLOYING TECHNOLOGY ASSETS HAS STARTED. IDENTIFYING CRIMINAL NETWORKS SUCH AS PROPERTY CRIME NARCOTICS TRAFFICKING AND FRAUD GROUPS IS PUT INTO FOCUS. UNDERSTANDING WHEN, WHERE AND HOW THESE GROUPS COMMIT THEIR OFFENSES IS THE INTELLIGENCE LED COMPONENT OF THIS STRATEGY. OUR MOST IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP WAS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. A NEW FOCUS ON MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND EDUCATE THEM ON BECOMING HARDER TARGETS BEGINS. 
          OUR SECOND MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP IS THE ONE WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. ENGAGED WITH THEM DOES SHARE INTELLIGENCE AND WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE CRIME AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL IS STRENGTHENED. THE RESULTS ARE HOW WE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE HARNESSING THE POWER OF TECHNOLOGY AND THANKS TO INCREDIBLE CRIME ANALYSIS UNIT WE ARE TRACKING CRIME, VISUALIZING CRIME, DISSEMINATING INTELLIGENCE ON CRIME AND EMPLOYING ON CRIME AT A RATE NEVER BEFORE POSSIBLE. 
          EVERY SIX HOURS. ANOTHER ISSUE WE HAD TO CONFRONT WAS OUR DEPLOYMENT MODEL. OUR DEPARTMENT HAS OPERATED UNDER AN OPERATIONS DEPLOYMENT MODEL OF PATROL BEATS FOR AS LONG AS ANY OF US CAN REMEMBER, 13 PATROL BEATS. 
          PROBLEM IS IT RESTRICTS AN OFFICER TO A SMALL GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY REGARDLESS OF THE LEVEL OF CRIME OR CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT MAY BE EXPERIENCING. 
          IMPLEMENTING CRIME STRATEGY WOULD BE MET WITH IMMEDIATE CHALLENGES OPERATING UNDER THIS DEPLOYMENT METHOD. 
          ONE TO LEARN ABOUT TAG'S NEXT BUT PART OF OUR STRATEGY IS BEING AWARE AND WHEN CRIME IS OCCURRING. 
          IF A BEAT OFFICER HAS ONE OF THESE PLACES WE ARE FOCUSED ON IN THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THEIR BEAT BUT THEY ARE TIED UP FOR HOURS ON AN ARREST OR INVESTIGATION THAT LOCATION GOES UNPOLICED. WE NEED A NEW DEPLOYMENT MODEL TO COMPLEMENT OUR STRATEGY. TO ANSWER THIS WE USED YEARS OF HISTORICAL DATA ON CALLS FOR SERVICE AND CRIME INFORMATION TO DEVELOP FOUR SECTORS TO EVENLY SPREAD THE LOAD. 
          THESE AREAS ARE STAFFED WITH A TEAM OF OFFICERS ALLOWING THEM GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO BE IN THE AREAS THEY ARE NEEDED MOST. 
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TO BE FREE TO CONDUCT PROACTIVE POLICING AND DECREASE RESPONSE TIMES. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE PLACES AND BEHAVIOURS AND PARTNERSHIPS, THE NEXT STEP WAS FORMALIZING HOW AND WHERE WE SPENT OUR TIME. ALL OF OUR FOCUS HAS KEPT PEOPLE PLACES BEHAVIOURS AND PARTNERSHIPS COME TOGETHER IN TAGS. TAGS IS SHORT FOR TARGETED ACTION AREA GRIDS. THESE LOCATIONS ARE IDENTIFIED BY OPERATIONS COMMAND STAFF AND DISSEMINATED TO OPERATIONAL PERSONNEL OR DIRECTED PROACTIVE POLICE ACTIVITY AND TECHNOLOGY DEPLOYMENT. BECAUSE CRIME DATA IS REVIEWED AND DISSEMINATED EVERY SIX HOURS THESE TAGS CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND ASSIGNED ALMOST AS QUICKLY AS CRIME IS OCCURRING. 
          NOW WITH OUR NEW SECTORS DEPLOYMENT MODEL PEOPLE, PLACES AND BEHAVIOURS ARE NO LONGER A SINGLE OFFICER'S RESPONSIBILITY BUT A SHARED FOCUS BY A TEAM OF OFFICERS. 
          PERSONNEL ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING IN THESE AREAS WHEN OTHERWISE UNOCCUPIED AND COMMAND STAFF ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VARIOUS DIVISIONS OF THE CITY ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR TACTICS WE EMPLOY AND THE RESULTS. OUR RESULTS ARE MEASURED EVERY SIX HOURS. TAGS ARE BOTH IDENTIFIED AND RESOLVED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE MAXIMUM EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY OF RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT. 
          OUR STRATEGIES ARE INTELLIGENCE LED AND DATA DRIVEN. 
          WE FOCUS OUR EFFORTS FOR PROACTIVE POLICE WORK WHERE THE DATA TELLS US WE NEED TO BE AND WHEN. 
          IN ADDITION TO PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT WE ENGAGE OUR STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH RESIDENTS BUSINESS OWNERS AND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. THE STRATEGY IS EMBRACED DEPARTMENT WIDE. 
          OFFICERS, DETECTIVES AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF ARE ALL IN. 
          ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OURSELVES AND OFFENDERS IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET OF OUR STRATEGY. RELENTLESS FOLLOW UP WE CONTINUALLY MEASURE OUR RESULTS TO SEE TO IT THE CRIMINALS EXPERIENCE A SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION. 
          THANKS TO SUPPORT FROM LEADERSHIP AND COUNCIL WE WERE ABLE TO ADD FOREIGN SUPERVISOR POSITION AND STAND UP NEW STREET CRIMES UNIT THIS YEAR. THESE DETECTIVES ALONG WITH U.S. 
          MARSHAL TASK FORCE OFFICERS WERE TASKED EVERY DAY WITH TRACKING DOWN THOSE WHO COMMITTED CRIMES IN OUR GREAT CITY WHEREVER THEY MAY BE IN THE METROPLEX. THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR CRIME STRATEGY IS OUR PEOPLE. I BELIEVE WE HOLD A TRAIT UNIQUE TO CARROLLTON. WE LOVE THIS CITY. 
          WE DO NOT TAKE FOR GRANTED THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVE FROM OUR CITIZENS AND OUR LEADERS TO DO OUR JOBS. 
          YOUR DEPARTMENT THESE MEN AND WOMEN BEHIND ME, ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT KEEPING OUR CITIZENS SAFE. CRIME IS A VERY PERSONAL FOR US. 
          THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. 
          CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGY HAS BEEN SHOWCASED AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL BY CRIME ANALYSTS UNIT, NUMEROUS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE IMPLEMENTING OUR STRATEGIES AND HOW WE ARE LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY. 
          IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY AND WE ARE PROUD OF WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED. COUNCIL I. AM SURE HAS SEEN THIS BUT EVERYBODY ELSE, THIS SHOWS A DRAMATIC DECLINE IN OUR CRIME RATE SINCE THE START OF OUR FORMAL CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGY. 
          YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR NEXT MORE FROM COMMANDER WYATT ABOUT HOW WE ARE LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS A VITAL COMPONENT OF OUR STRATEGY AND INVOLVED IN THE SUCCESS. 
          FOR MANY YEARS I HAVE SPOKEN WITH CITIZENS WHO REFLECT ON HOW SAFE CARROLLTON USED TO BE. AND CARROLLTON THEY REMEMBER. 
          THE TRUTH IS CARROLLTON IS THE SAFEST IT HAS BEEN IN AT LEAST A QUARTER OF A CENTURY. WE ENDED 2025 WITH A CRIME RATE 65% LOWER THAN IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. 
          OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN OVER THIS TIME AND CRIME RATE HAS DECLINED. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED BY ACCIDENT. THIS DEMONSTRATES THE RESULTS OF AN INCREDIBLE INVESTMENT IN OUR PEOPLE, RESOURCES AND PARTNERSHIPS. THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO IF WE CONTINUE TO ADVANCE AND EVOLVE. THIS DEPARTMENT WILL NEVER AGAIN ACCEPT THE CRIME WE EXPERIENCED 20 OR JUST TEN YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. THIS IS THE CARROLLTON I. WANT TO REMEMBER PURE TURN IT OVER TO COMMANDER WHITE THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. WHITE COMMANDER OF POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU HEARD THE CHIEF SPEAK ABOUT THE REVIEW OF OUR CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGY FOCUS ON PEOPLE PLACES AND BEHAVIOR. I WILL GET INTO THE WEEDS OF HOW WE ARE MANAGING THE ACTUAL EXECUTION OF THAT STRATEGY AND SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE ARE USING. 
          TECHNOLOGY IS NOT SOMETHING NEW TO THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN I STARTED HERE TECHNOLOGY WAS A RADAR AND A RADIO BUT WE COME 
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QUITE A LONG WAY. WE'VE CONTINUOUSLY ADDED SOFTWARES AND HARDWARE TO OUR SUITE, SYSTEM AND TECHNOLOGY THROUGHOUT THE DECADES REALLY. IN THE CENTERPIECE OF IT TODAY IS WHAT'S CALLED REALTIME CRIME CENTER BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE MOVE FROM JUST RADARS AND RADIOS. 
          IT'S BECOME A LITTLE BIT CUMBERSOME AND A COMMODITY IS REALLY TIED. IT'S NOT PEOPLE. 
          HOW DO WE GET ALL THIS INFORMATION CACTUS DATA THAT WE AGGREGATE OUT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THEY CAN USE IT AS OPPOSED TO GIVING IT TO A DETECTIVE THREE DAYS LATER OR SOMEONE AFTER THE CRIME IS STALE. 
          SO THE CENTERPIECE IS A REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND IT'S A ROOM OVER IN THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFFED BY TWO SWORN DETECTIVES, AND IT'S KIND OF FANCY LOOKING, NOT AS FANCY AS A SLIDE BUT A LOT OF MONITORS AND TECHNOLOGY IN THERE. 
          WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS HELPING THE INDIVIDUALS OUT ON THE STREET MAKE DECISIONS. THE TECHNOLOGY THAT FLOWS INTO THAT ROOM ALSO IS OUT ON THE STREETS. 
          WE HAVE BODY WORN CAMERAS WE HAVE TASERS. 
          WE HAVE COMMUNITY CAMERAS WHERE BUSINESSES OR INDIVIDUALS CAN ADD THEIR CAMERAS TO OUR SYSTEMS, SCHOOL DISTRICT SHARES WITH US ONE OF OUR PRIVATE SCHOOLS SHARES WITH US. 
          WE HAVE OUR SKYWATCH TRAILER I AM SURE YOU HAVE SEEN IN SOME COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. WE HAVE A SUITE OF COVID SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY WE USE FOR NARCOTICS INVESTIGATORS. 
          WE HAVE POLE CAMERAS. THE AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE GAINED CACTUS SOFTWARE, AND WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO QUITE A FEW PUBLIC SAFETY DATABASES. SOME OF THEM ARE RESTRICTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT SOME OF THEM RESTRICTED TO GOVERNMENT ONLY. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE ACCESSIBLE OPEN SOURCE. 
          AND WE ACCESS AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE TRY TO SOLVE CRIME AS FAST AS WE CAN. SO AS INFORMATION FLOWS INTO THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER THE NEWEST PIECE OF IT IS THAT DRONE IS A FIRST RESPONDER. FOR YEARS WE HAVE HAD DRONES IN OUR CARS. A LITTLE PELICAN BRIEFCASE KIND OF THING AND OFFICERS CAN DEPLOY THEM TO LOOK FOR MISSING CHILDREN, LOOK FOR MISSING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL DEFICITS. 
          WE HAVE USED THEM IN TACTICAL SCENARIOS TO KEEP OFFICERS SAFE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROACH SOMEBODY WHO HAS A WEAPON OR GO INSIDE A BUILDING BEFORE IT'S TOO SOON. 
          AND WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH IT. 
          RECENTLY WE ADDED DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER ON TOP OF THIS BUILDING. IT'S A LARGER DRONE. 
          UNMANNED AIRPLANE HELICOPTER. IT LAUNCHES FROM A REALTIME CRIME CENTER FOR A CALL. IT CAN BE POLICE CALL FOR SERVICE OR FIRE CALL. WE HAVE USED IT FOR PUBLIC WORKS AFTER STORM INCIDENCES TO DO DAMAGE SURVEYS. 
          WHAT WE DO IS IT GOES TO THE CALL AND THE RESPONSE TIME HOVERS AROUND 2 MINUTES FOR THE DFR WE CALL IT. 
          RESPONSE TIMES ON THE GROUND HOVERING AROUND 6 MINUTES. 
          WE ARE OUTPACING IT ABOUT THREE TO ONE. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET THERE SOONER. WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS WE ARE GETTING INFORMATION THROUGH THE OFFICERS ON THEIR WAY FASTER. 
          SO WE CAN ADJUST OUR RESPONSE. SOMETIMES WE DIAL THAT UP. 
          SOMETIMES SLOW IT DOWN. SOMETIMES WE ADD OFFICERS AND REDUCE THEM. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOVES IT BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THEY DO TRAINED FROM THE FIRST DAY IS CALLED A SIZE UP. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE GET CALLS ABOUT A STRUCTURE FIRE AND IT'S ACTUALLY MUCH LESS THAN THAT. 
          WE CAN GO TO CALLS AND FIND THERE'S A WRECK THAT'S IN AN ADJACENT CITY. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO AND CALL ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS TO SEND THEIR RESOURCES. 
          WHAT IT DOES THE COMMODITY IS TIME. 
          IT'S KEEPING OFFICERS FROM GOING TO THINGS THEY DON'T HAVE TO SO THEY CAN GO TO THE THINGS THEY NEED TO AND GET THERE FASTER WITH INFORMATION THEY NEED. I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. 
          THERE YOU GO. THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT HOW WE TURN TO TECHNOLOGY WHEN WE WERE FACING A STAFFING CRISIS. 
          MOST POLICE AGENCIES HAVE DONE THAT. 
          RESOURCES ARE CONSTRAINED AND TECHNOLOGY HELPS US. 
          AND WE GET SO MUCH INFORMATION. THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION. 
          ONE OF THE PIECES OF TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE NOW IS LIVE 911. 
          WE ROLLED THAT OUT LAST YEAR. TYPICALLY CITIZEN CALLS 911 AND A CALL TAKER IN A DISPATCH CENTER PICKS UP THE PHONE AND TALKS TO THAT INDIVIDUAL. THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OF SOME TYPE. WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT AND THE DISPATCHER CALL TAKER IS TYPING IT IN. IT GOES TO A RADIO DISPATCHER WHO THEN COMMUNICATES IT OVER THE RADIO TO A POLICE OFFICER. 
          SENDS IT ON A COMPUTER INTO THEIR CAR AND THAT OFFICER IS TRYING TO INGEST THAT INFORMATION WHILE TRYING TO GET TO THE CALL. WITH LIVE 911 NOW WITH THE PRESS OF A BUTTON THE OFFICER CAN HEAR THE ACTUAL REPORTING PERSON, A CALLER AS THEY ARE SPEAKING TO THE CALL TAKER. 
          THEY CAN HEAR A WITNESS, A VICTIM. 
          THEY CAN HEAR BACKGROUND NOISE. THEY CAN DECIDE IN REALTIME WHAT TYPE OF RESPONSE THEY NEED TO HAVE AS OPPOSED TO WHERE IT WAS 
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TEXT ON THE SCREEN OR SECOND AND NOW THIRD PARTY INFORMATION COMING THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT DISPATCHERS. 
          IT HELPS US GET THERE FASTER AND MAKE DECISIONS FASTER. 
          ALPR. OKAY. 
          THAT STANDS FOR AUTOMATIC AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER. 
          IT'S A HOT TOPIC. WE HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT CARROLLTON. OUR VENDOR IS BLOCK SAFETY. 
          THEY ARE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY ON ROADWAYS, PUBLIC THOROUGHFARES ATTACHED TO PUBLIC PROPERTY. SOMETIMES THEY ARE ATTACHED TO TRAFFIC SIGNALS, SOMETIMES ON INDEPENDENT POLES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THERE ARE A FEW IN OUR PARKS. 
          WE HAVE TWO IN MCKINNEY PARK. ANOTHER AT JOSE RANCH. 
          INDIAN CREEK GOLF COURSE AND THOSE ARE SET UP BASED ON INGRESS AND EGRESS. SO WE CAN CAPTURE THE LICENSE PLATE OF VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE. 
          THERE'S ALSO LPR OWNED BY PRIVATE COMPANIES OR PRIVATE CITIZENS. THERE ARE SOME OF OUR BIG BOX RETAILERS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY IN OUR PARKING LOTS. SOME OF THEM USE FLOC AND SOME USE OTHER VENDORS. THERE'S SOME HOAS WHO DECIDED TO PUT THEM IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. SOME OF OUR DENSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, MULTILEVEL APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE PARKING STRUCTURES. SOME OF THEM ARE PUTTING THEM IN THEIR PROPERTIES. THOSE ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. 
          THE ONES THAT HAVE FLOC THEY DO SHARE WITH US. 
          THERE'S NO RECIPROCAL SHARE. WE DON'T SHARE OUR DATA WITH THEM. AND THIS IS HOW WE INGEST THE LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION FROM THE VEHICLES OUT ON THE ROADWAY. 
          WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MYTH AND THE FACTS. 
          I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE. 
          LAST WEEK I SAW SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET ABOUT SOMEONE GOT A SPEEDING TICKET FROM A CAMERA IN CARROLLTON. 
          IT'S NOT TRUE. IT CAN'T HAPPEN. 
          IT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. THEY TRACK LICENSE PLATES. 
          FLOCK TRACKS PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T. 
          THE CAMERAS CAPTURE LICENSE PLATE. 
          LICENSE PLATE ON A VEHICLE ISSUED BY THE STATE. 
          WE CAPTURE AROUND A MILLION LICENSE PLATES A MONTH. 
          SOME OF THOSE ARE REPEATS. SOME OF THOSE THE SAME VEHICLES ALL MULTIPLE LICENSE PLATE READERS. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE MISREADS. MAY BE NUMBERS ON THE SIDE OF A TRUCK. OUR SEARCHES OUR OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES AND ANALYSTS ARE LOOKING AT HOVER JUST UNDER 2000 A MONTH. SO THE IDEA WE ARE TRACKING EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE TIME IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. WE'RE NOT TRACKING PEOPLE. 
          SPECIFICALLY AND DELIBERATELY EXCLUDES FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY FROM THEIR PRODUCTS. WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS IN THE CAR. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS DRIVING THE CAR. 
          WE KNOW THE CAR WAS AT A LOCATION IN TIME BECAUSE THE LICENSE PLATE APPEARED. PEOPLE CAN JUST SEARCH ANYONE, ALSO NOT TRUE. ONLY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM CAN CONDUCT SEARCHES. 
          AND WHEN THEY DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VALID LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE. CASE NUMBER WHAT THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR, AND THAT LOG IS KEPT PERMANENTLY. 
          THE AUDIT LOG IS KEPT PERMANENTLY. 
          FOR WHEN THEY SEARCH. THERE'S NO AUTOMATIC SEARCHING GOING ON. CAN'T SET IT TO SEARCH AND TRACK A PERSON AND LET IT RUN FOREVER. WE HAVE TO HAVE DELIBERATE SEARCHES BY OFFICERS, DETECTIVES AND ANALYSTS AND NOT JUST SEARCHING ANYONE ANYTIME. PERMANENT RECORD ONE, THIS IS A GOOD ONE WE HAVE RETENTION RULES FOR OUR FLOCK THAT DATA BELONGS TO US. FLOCK ALLOWS THEIR CUSTOMERS TO SET THEIR OWN RETENTION RULES. AND CARROLLTON OURS IS 30 DAYS SO WHEN A LICENSE PLATE IS SCANNED IT'S KEPT IN THE DATABASE FOR 30 DAYS. WE CAN REDUCE IT AND CHANGE IT. 
          SOME AGENCIES HAVE. IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT'S OF EVIDENTIARY VALUE FOR A CASE WE'LL KEEP IT. 
          BUT IT'S NOT KEPT FOREVER. IT IS KEPT FOR 30 DAYS. 
          AND IF WE FIND A CRIME THAT HAPPENED AND MAYBE A LEAD THAT WE WANTED ON DAY 31 SORRY ABOUT YOUR BAD LUCK. 
          BACK INTO REGULAR POLICE WORK LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES. WHAT IS KEPT FOREVER IS THE AUDIT LOG. THAT'S PERMANENT. 
          WE CAN SEARCH BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2019 WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM TO EVERY SEARCH EVER CONDUCTED BY ANYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY. RECORDS FROM LICENSE PLATES ARE NOT KEPT FOREVER. THE SYSTEM DECIDES WHO GETS STOPPED OR ARRESTED THIS IS NOT TRUE. 
          POLICE OFFICERS DO BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT AI IS NOT DOING. 
          AI IS NOT REPLACING INDIVIDUAL JUDGMENT OF POLICE OFFICERS. 
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IT'S NOT REPLACING DECISIONS MADE BY DETECTIVES, BY ANALYSTS, BY ANYBODY, ANY HUMAN BEING. IS GENERATING AN INVESTIGATIVE LEAD. THAT'S ALL IT'S DOING. 
          IT'S DOING IT QUICKLY. IT'S DOING THE SAME THING THAT WE DO ONLY FASTER. ANY OFFICER WHO GETS AN ALERT FROM FLOCK OR FINDS AN OUTPUT FROM A SEARCH STILL HAS TO DEVELOP A LAWFUL REASON TO CONDUCT AN ARREST, SEARCH AND DETENTION. THEY HAVE TO HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO. 
          FLOCK AND ALPR DOES NOT DECIDE ANYTHING. 
          IT'S JUST AN INVESTIGATIVE LEAD. THAT'S IT. 
          TRANSPARENCY. WE PEER A PRETTY TRANSPARENT POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE THERE'S A PORTAL WE HAVE FOR ALPERS. 
          THAT DEMONSTRATES THE PUBLIC IT'S AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY. 
          THINGS LIKE HOW MANY LICENSE PLATES ARE READ. 
          TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THE ENFORCEMENT ACTS THAT WILL BE TAKEN, SANITIZED TO BE PUBLICLY DISPLAYED. 
          TALKS ABOUT THE HITS WE HAVE. IS AVAILABLE. 
          TALKS ABOUT OUR POLICIES AND THE SECURITY TECHNOLOGY AND SECURITY THAT'S BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE A TRANSPARENCY PORTAL ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT FLOCK AND A LOT OF OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT WHEN WE ROLLED THIS OUT WE LOOKED AT THE POLICY LOOKED AT CONTROLS AND LOOKED AT THE USE AND WHAT WE FOUND INITIALLY IS WE ALREADY HAD A VERY GOOD POLICY IN REGARDS TO TECHNOLOGIES BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTITUDE OF TECHNOLOGIES FOR DECADES. AND IN CARROLLTON WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF ESTABLISHING INTERNAL CONTROLS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE MISUSE AND WE ALSO HAVE A VERY, VERY LOW INCIDENCE OF MISCONDUCT IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          HOWEVER, WE DID ADD SOME TWEAKS. BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY MOVES VERY, VERY QUICK. THEY'RE ADDING PRODUCTS AND CAPABILITIES VERY, VERY QUICKLY. SO AS WE ADD IT FLOCK AND EXPAND FLOCK WE DID MAKE SOME POLICY CHANGES TO OUR TECHNOLOGY POLICY. THE CONTROLS. 
          IT'S A ROLE BASED ACCESS. SO WE HAVE IT SET FOR EXAMPLE PATROL OFFICERS HAVE A CERTAIN SET OF ACCESS. 
          WE HAVE DETERMINED IN CARROLLTON THE DETECTIVES SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESS TO LOOK BACK AT DIFFERENT THINGS THAN PATROL OFFICERS DON'T NEED. WE HAVE DIFFERENT ACCESS FOR ANALYSTS IN A REALTIME CRIME CENTER. 
          THIS IS ACROSS OUR TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS. WE DON'T NEED PATROL OFFICERS LOOKING REALTIME AT ANYBODY'S BODY CAMERA. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THAT. SUPERVISORS DO. 
          THE FOLKS IN THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER DO SO WE CAN TAKE THAT DATA AND USE IT ON THE STREET. WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING WITH THE FLOCK. WE OWN THE DATA. 
          FLOCK DOES NOT SELL THEIR DATA. AS A MATTER OF THEIR OWN POLICY AND CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THE DATA BELONGS TO US THEY CAN'T SELL IT AND WE DON'T GIVE IT AWAY. 
          WE DO SHARE WITH OTHER POLICE AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          WE DON'T SHARE WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCIES. 
          WE DON'T SHARE WITH AGENCIES OUTSIDE THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          WE DON'T SHARE WITH NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. 
          I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT SOME PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT HAVE FLOCK CAMERAS THAT SHARE WITH US IF THEY CHOOSE TO. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO. SOME OF THEM WE HAD TO ASK YOU HAVE LPRS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH POLICE. WE COULDN'T SHARE THAT IF WE WANTED TO. IT'S SIMPLY NOT ALLOWED. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE CONTROLS ON THAT. 
          WE CAN TURN IT OFF AND TURN IT ON WE CAN ADD POLICE AGENCIES. 
          THEY HAVE TO AFFIRM THE REQUEST AND WE HAVE TO ADD IT. 
          IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM SOMEWHERE IN TEXAS AND YOU CAN ACCESS IT. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF SECURITY. I'M NOT AN IT PROFESSIONAL BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE VERY HIGH LEVELS OF SECURITY REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEMS. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE ELECTRONS THAT KEEP US SAFE INSIDE THE SOFTWARE THERE'S PHYSICAL STANDARDS. 
          THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR THE BUILDING. 
          STANDARDS FOR ACCESS CONTROL. THEIR STANDARDS FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS AND FINGERPRINTING FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS ACCESS. 
          THOSE REGULATIONS FOR WHAT HAPPENS. 
          MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON TOURS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT CERTIFIED HOW ARE THEY ESCORTED. 
          AND WE HAVE MULTI-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION FOR OUR SYSTEMS. WE HAVE SINGLE SIGN ON. THIS ALL GOES IN WITH FLOCK. 
          BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION NETWORK THEY HAVE TO MEET THE SAME STANDARDS SET BY THE FBI DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          IT'S NO DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S AN LPR. 
          AND THEN THEY USE. I TALKED ABOUT NETWORK PARTICIPATION IN OUR POLICY BUT WE AUDIT OUR SYSTEM PROACTIVELY. 
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AND RECENTLY WE'VE MOVED, WE'VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF AUDITING OUTSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY APPLIANCE MANAGER. WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF SCRUTINY. 
          WE'VE DEALT WITH IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          WE'VE DEALT WITH IT FOR BODY CAMERAS. 
          WE STARTED IT AND THE STATE MADE A LAW THAT SAID WE HAD TO DO IT. 
          WE WERE ALREADY DOING IT. THERE'S A LAW ABOUT INFORMATION WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S. 
          WE WERE ALREADY DOING IT. BUT WE JUST ADD LAYERS BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT AND WE'VE ENJOYED A VERY LOW INSTANCE OF MISCONDUCT AND MISUSE IN ANY POLICE SERVICE IN CARROLLTON. WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          IT'S WORKING. GUARDRAILS. 
          I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS. 
          IT DETECTS LICENSE PLATES AND VEHICLES. 
          IT DETECTS WHETHER YOU'RE GOING. WE GET ALERT FOR STOLEN VEHICLES. WE GET ALERT FOR STOLEN LICENSE PLATES. THAT'S GOING UP. 
          CRIMINALS ARE TAKING LICENSE PLATES OFF OF A CAR PUTTING THEM ON ANOTHER CAR AND GOING OUT TO COMMIT CRIME. 
          WE GET ALERTS FOR MISSING CHILDREN. 
          WE GET ALERT FOR MISSING PERSONS WHO MIGHT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH DEFICIT. WE GET ALERT FOR VIOLENT GANG MEMBERS OR PERSONS WHO ARE WANTED THAT ARE FUGITIVES FROM JUSTICE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S TRACKING. 
          IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN AN LPR YOU WOULD SEE AT THE AIRPORT OR TOLLWAY TRACKING YOUR LICENSE PLATE. 
          IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME. IT IS JUST GIVING US ALERTS FOR OTHER THINGS. IT DOES NOT DETECT FACES. 
          IT DOESN'T IDENTIFY PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T TRACK WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IN A PROTECTIVE CLASS OR NOT IS IN A CAR. 
          IT CAN'T. THERE'S NO AUDIO RECORDING. 
          WE DON'T USE IT FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE DON'T USE IT FOR GENERAL SURVEILLANCE. 
          THE CAMERAS ARE NOT JUST ON HOVERING. 
          WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONTROL MEASURES IN AUDITING SYSTEMS IN PLACE. IN SOME CASES IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE AS NEW TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS THIS SOMETHING TO GIVE TO EVERY POLICE OFFICER OR NOT. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE CAMERAS THAT ARE SOLAR PANELS AND WE CAN MOVE AROUND. WE DON'T WANT EVERY POLICE OFFICER ACCESSING THOSE BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE USING IT FOR A SPECIFIC INVESTIGATION. MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR A COMPLAINT. WE ARE CONSTANTLY MONITORING THESE AND CHANGING THEM AS WE NEED. 
          AND THE HUMAN VERIFICATION. AI IS NOT MAKING POLICE DECISIONS. FLOCK, LAWYERS, PTZ CAMERAS, THEY ARE NOT MAKING ANY POLICE DECISIONS. 
          THERE ARE MISREADS. A LICENSE PLATE MIGHT GET READ. 
          STOLEN FROM A LICENSE PLATE IN MISSOURI. 
          OFFICER SEES IT AND SAYS THAT'S MONTANA LICENSE PLATE. 
          THE HUMAN HAS TO VERIFY WHAT THEY ARE SEEING JUST LIKE THEY WOULD IF THEY WERE RUNNING A LICENSE PLATE ON THEIR COMPUTER BY TYPING IT IN. THE HUMAN HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY AND WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY. OKAY A CONTRACT. 
          WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS TO CONSOLIDATE THE CONTRACTS. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND THAT MONEY. 
          IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR NEW CAMERAS. THIS IS NOT A FUNDING REQUEST. 
          AS WE HAVE EXPANDED FLOCK FOOTPRINT OVER THE YEAR WHAT WE ARRIVED AT IS A PATCHWORK OF CONTRACTS. 
          WE STARTED OUT WITH A FEW AND THEN WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH SOME PROPERTY CRIME IN OUR PARKS. WE HAD A FEW MORE AND WE GOT A GRANT FROM THE STATE. WE ADDED A BUNCH MORE. 
          GOT ANOTHER GRANT. PATCHWORK OF CONTRACTS THAT STARTED TO EXPIRE DIFFERENT TIMES AND IN SOME CASES WE HAVE A FEW CAMERAS ABLE TO LOCK IN ON DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES SO A LITTLE CHEAPER THAN OTHERS. BUT NOW IS THE TIME SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE SOME OF THE CONTRACTS ARE EXPIRING AND WE ARE NO LONGER USING STATE GRANT FUNDING. 
          WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM IN ONE CONTRACT AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY SO WE ARE NOT IN FRONT OF YOU EVERY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TRYING TO RENEW ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT SOUNDS THE SAME. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE GOING TO JUST ONE. THERE ARE 67 LPRS, ALPERS LIKE THE CHIEF MENTIONED, AND 15 PTZ CAMERAS. 
          THOSE ARE JUST LIKE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT BUILDINGS OUTSIDE AND THEY HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER AND THEN THE AMOUNT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. 
          WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND IT AND YOU ARE VERY WELL FAMILIAR WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY. 
          WE'RE NOT ADDING CAMERAS OR ANY BUDGET ITEMS. ALL RIGHT MAYOR AND COUNCIL I WANT TO GO OVER SOME SUCCESS 
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STORIES. HIT-AND-RUN. 
          A VEHICLE VERSUS A JUVENILE CYCLIST. 
          A JUVENILE ON A BICYCLE WAS STRUCK BY A VEHICLE IN FRONT OF CARROLLTON SCHOOL. VIDEO OF THE SCHOOL BUS PROVIDED OFFICERS WITH A DESCRIPTION OF THE SUSPECT VEHICLE. 
          INQUIRY IDENTIFIED THE VEHICLE AND LICENSE PLATE OFFICERS COMPLETED FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER AND DURING AN INTERVIEW THE SUSPECT CONFESSED TO THE OFFENSE. 
          VEHICLE BURGLARY AT MCKINNON'S PARK. 
          VEHICLE BURGLARY OCCURRED IN MACINNIS PARK. 
          EVIDENCE SUGGESTED SUSPECTS WERE PART OF A HIGHLY MOBILE CRIMINAL NETWORK. DETECTIVES CONDUCTED INQUIRIES IN THE AREA AND DURING THE TIME THE OFFENSE OCCURRED. 
          THROUGH FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS DETECTIVES IDENTIFIED TWO SUSPECTS AND CONFIRMED THEY WERE PART OF THE FELONY LANE GANG OUT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          WARRANTS WERE OBTAINED FOR BOTH SUSPECTS. 
          ROAD RAGE STABBING. VICTIM WAS STABBED DURING A ROAD RAGE INCIDENT IN CARROLLTON. THE FLOCK INQUIRY FOR THE SUSPECT VEHICLE DESCRIPTION RESULTED IN OFFICERS IDENTIFYING THE SUSPECT VEHICLE AND LICENSE PLATE THE SUSPECT WAS ARRESTED THE SAME DAY. AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, SHOOTING. 
          DETECTIVES ON SCENE DEVELOPED A PARTIAL LICENSE PLATE AND SUSPECT VEHICLE DESCRIPTION. FOUR SUCCESSFULLY IDENTIFIED THE VEHICLE AND CONFIRMED IT WAS IN THE AREA AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE. ADDITIONAL FLOCK HITS REVEALED THE SUSPECTS VEHICLE TRAVEL ROUTE LEADING OFFICERS TO ITS LOCATION AND RESULTING IN THE ARREST OF THE SUSPECTS AND SEIZURE OF FIREARMS AND DRUGS. A SECOND SUSPECT VEHICLE WAS DEVELOPED AND FLOCK INQUIRIES DIRECTED OFFICERS TO ITS LOCATION FOR ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS WERE ARRESTED. 
          ALL SUSPECTS WERE IN CUSTODY THE VERY SAME DAY. 
          FENTANYL INVESTIGATIONS. FLOCK HAS BEEN UTILIZED IN THREE FENTANYL OVERDOSE DEATH INVESTIGATIONS. 
          FLOCK INQUIRIES AIDED IN IDENTIFYING THE DEALERS AND BUILDING TIMELINES OF THE VICTIM AND SUSPECTS MOVEMENTS TO STRENGTHEN THE CRIMINAL CASES. THESE SUSPECTS HAVE SINCE BEEN CHARGED IN STATE AND FEDERAL COURT FOR THE MURDERS. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IN MY 30 YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER THE ONE THING THAT HAUNTS ME THE MOST IS GOING TO A MOTHER AND TELLING THAT MOTHER THAT I DON'T HAVE LEADS ON THE MURDER OF THEIR CHILD. THAT HAS STUCK WITH ME MY ENTIRE CAREER. THESE FENTANYL CASES ARE VERY I KEEP THEM CLOSE TO MY HEART. BECAUSE KIDS ARE IMPORTANT. 
          AND IT'S MY JOB TO PROTECT THEM. AND WHEN I GOT HERE KIDS WERE DYING. AND YOU LIVED IT WITH ME AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT FELT LIKE WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANSWERS. 
          FOR THOSE PARENTS. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE REGIONAL STRATEGY. YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE RE REGION. YOU'LL SEE IN THE MIDDLE, IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR CAMERAS WE BECOME THE HOLE IN THE DOUGHNUT. 
          THAT MEANS CRIME WILL BE DISPLACED FROM OTHER CITIES TO OUR CITY. YOU'VE HEARD AND YOU'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS. TECHNOLOGY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE VERY COMPREHENSIVE CRIME PLAN. 
          WE HAVE GREAT OFFICERS. WE HAVE A GOOD CULTURE AND WE HAVE GOOD MORALE. MUCH OF THAT COMES FROM YOUR SUPPORT. OFFICERS HAVE BOUGHT IN TO OUR CRIME PLAN IN A TIME WHERE IT'S NOT EASY TO BE A POLICE OFFICER. 
          WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE POLICE OFFICERS. 
          AND WE ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST. AND THEY WORK HARD EVERY DAY. 
          IF THESE CAMERAS GO AWAY OUR WORKLOAD WILL INCREASE. 
          WE WILL LOSE OUR EFFICIENCY. IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPH 
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CARROLLTON IS IN FOURTH SAFEST BIG CITY IN THE METROPLEX. 
          COUNCIL I WANT TO BE THE SAFEST CITY IN THE WORLD. 
          WE HAVE WORK TO DO. THAT'S WHY I GET UP EVERY MORNING. THAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY. IS HOW DO I CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS GREAT CITY SAFE? BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE CITY. 
          MY FAMILY COMES TO VISIT ME IN THE CITY. 
          I TAKE IT VERY PERSONAL AND SOMEONE IS A VICTIM OF CRIME. 
          ANY CRIME. I HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF CRIME. 
          I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE. OUR STRATEGIES, OUR TECHNOLOGY AND OUR OVERALL CRIME PLAN HAS REDUCED CRIME IN NEARLY 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE BY NEARLY 50%. I WANT TO BE THE SAFEST BIG CITY. I WANT TO BE THE SAFEST CITY IN AMERICA. BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS I. JUST WANT TO REITERATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONTRACT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE TAKING SUCH CONSIDERATION AND I RESPECT IT. 
          IT'S A TOUGH ASK. IT'S NOT EASY. 
          SAFEGUARDING THE CITY IS NOT EASY. 
          WE ARE DOING THE VERY BEST WE CAN. 
          WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO BE VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER MO MONIES. THIS MAKES US MORE EFFICIENT. 
          WE GET CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET. SOMETIMES THE SAME DAY WHICH MEANS THEY CANNOT CONTINUE OFFENDING BECAUSE THEY ARE IN JAIL. GOOD OLD FASHIONED POLICE WORK TAKES TIME. A PEN AND PAPER. 
          AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE AND DEVELOP LEADS TAKE TIME. SO WHEN YOU ASK ME WHY IS 30 DAYS WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, IT'S BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO DEVELOP LEADS. AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THAT LEAD ON DAY ONE. BUT I'VE SHOWED YOU WHEN WE DO GET THAT LEAD ON DAY ONE WE SOMETIMES CAN BRING THAT PERSON TO JUSTICE THAT DAY. WHICH MEANS I CAN GO BACK TO THAT FAMILY AND GIVE THEM CLOSURE. 
          IF WE BRING THAT DOWN I'M AFRAID WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION. I HAVE A VERY NOT JUST CRIME PLAN BUT A VERY COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN. 
          IT GOES HAND-IN-HAND WITH OUR CRIME PLAN. 
          I ENJOY TALKING TO OUR CITIZENS. I ENJOY LISTENING TO OUR CITIZENS. AND I 100% UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY. ANY TIME ANYTHING COMES UP TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. 
          THERE'S THINGS WE'VE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY. 
          AND WE'VE MADE IT BETTER. WE ARE DOING ALL WE CAN TO PARTNER WITH EVERY CITIZEN WHETHER THEY ARE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST IT. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT I'M STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SAFETY. THEY ARE STILL IMPORTANT TO ME. 
          EVERYONE IS IMPORTANT TO ME. I AM TRYING TO GIVE MY OFFICERS THE BEST POSSIBLE TOOLS THEY CAN HAVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL WE ARE NOT JUST ARRESTING CRIMINALS. WE ARE SOMETIMES TRYING TO FIND AN ELDERLY PERSON WITH DEMENTIA. IN A REGION OF 8 MILLION PEOPLE. 
          IF IT IS SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          BUT THAT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO. 
          THINK ABOUT THIS SUMMER AND HOW HOT IT HAS BEEN. 
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IF WE CAN FIND THEM IMMEDIATELY WE CAN SAVE THEM. 
          IF THEY RUN OUT OF GAS AND THEY WALK AWAY FROM THEIR VEHICLE IT COULD TAKE US DAYS TO FIND THEM. NO ONE IS SURVIVING IN THIS HEAT. ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ELDERLY. 
          THIS TOOL SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THE CONTRACT 67 CAMERAS, 15 VIDEO CAMERAS FOR A TOTAL OF 82. I'M NOT ASKING FOR MORE CAMERAS. 
          IT'S A THREE YEAR CONTRACT SO I DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THAT'S WHY WE ARE COMBINING. 
          IT DOES NOT FALL DEAF ON ME THIS IS A DIFFICULT TIME TO ASK YOU TO DO THIS BUT I FELT THAT THIS WAS THE BEST APPROACH, IS CALM NOW EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE HOT BUTTON TOPIC. 
          IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WHEN I TALK TO YOU ABOUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, I GIVE YOU MY COMMITMENT TODAY THAT WE ARE PUTTING THE TOOLS IN PLACE NECESSARY. 
          I WILL NOT PUT UP WITH MISUSE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO EVERY SINGLE OFFICER IN OUR DEPARTMENT. I'VE MADE THE ROUNDS. 
          I'VE SCENT EMAILS. I'VE TALKED DIRECTLY TO OUR OFFICERS. AND I SAID DO NOT MISUSE THIS TECHNOLOGY. YOU ARE NOT JUST HURTING THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT OR YOURSELF. 
          YOU ARE HURTING THE ENTIRE PROFESSION. 
          AND MOST OF ALL I WILL FIRE YOU AND I WILL CHARGE YOU WITH A CRIME. YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT IN DOING THAT. SO HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE. 
          DON'T TAKE THE TECHNOLOGY AWAY. HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO DO MY JOB. IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY. 
          JUST LIKE YOU HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE. HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE DO NOT MISUSE THIS TECHNOLOGY. 
          THAT'S MY JOB. AND I DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY. 
          I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          >> COUNCIL AGAIN CHIEF THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU AND YOUR COMMAND STAFF FOR PRESENTING AND WE WANTED TO LET YOU GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION. AGAIN COUNCIL, AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE JOINED US YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORK SESSION RIGHT NOW SO WE ARE NOT TAKING ACTION DURING THIS PART OF THE MEETING. 
          THAT WILL BE SUBSEQUENT TO THIS WORK SESSION. 
          OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TWO TO THREE MONTHS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC FORUM INPUTS SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THIS GROUP WILL HAVE. SOME OF THOSE CONTINUE TO COME IN VIA EMAIL. SO WE ARE GOING TO CATCH EVERYONE UP HERE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK AND EXHAUST YOUR QUESTIONS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE THEN CLOSE OUT THE WORK SESSION, HAVING ANSWERED ALL THOSE QUESTIONS MY CHIEF AND HIS COMMAND STAFF, THAT THERE WILL BE MORE QUESTIONS RAISED BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION AS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THOSE QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE YOU RETURN TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. BUT COUNCIL WE ARE GOING TO USE THE ROLE HERE SO AS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST HIT YOUR BUTTON TO BE IN LINE. I WILL ASK COUNCIL THAT DON'T ASK TEN QUESTIONS, ASK YOUR QUESTION. 
          WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. WE WILL STAY IN WORK SESSION AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. MY FIRST QUESTION IS MAYOR PRO 
          TEM PALOMO. >> THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILS AND ALL OF THAT TRANSPARENCY YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. I DEFINITELY SEE THE PASSION. 
          I SEE THE COMMUNITY POLICING AND I APPRECIATE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING YOU DO TO KEEP US SAFE. 
          MY QUESTION IS AROUND THE MISUSE TRACKING. 
          IS THERE A MECHANISM IN OUR CURRENT FLOCK SYSTEM THAT FLAGS UNUSUAL SEARCHES, OR WHAT IS THE MECHANISM THAT OUR CARROLLTON PD IS USING TO FLAG ANY MISUSE OF THE SYSTEM? 
          >> I WILL LET THE COMMANDER SPEAK ON IT A LITTLE BIT BUT WE HAVE RANDOM AUDITS. THEY ARE NOT BEING DONE BY US. 
          THEY ARE BEING DONE BASICALLY AT CITY HALL. 
          WE ARE DOING THAT FOR TRANSPARENCY REASONS SO THAT WE 
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CAN'T BE ACCUSED OF LOOKING THE OTHER WAY. 
          AGAIN I EXPLAINED TO THE OFFICERS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THEY DON'T MISUSE IT. AND I HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHERE I STAND ON THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER THING YOU 
          WANT TO SHARE ABOUT IT CAN WE. >> GOOD EVENING. 
          PART OF THE SOFTWARE PACKAGE IS SOMETHING CALLED THE AUDIT ASSISTANT. TECHNOLOGY BUILT INTO IT THAT PROACTIVELY REVIEW SEARCHES INDEPENDENTLY OF HUMANS AND FLAGS CONDUCT THAT APPEARS TO BE CONGRUENT WITH MISUSE. 
          AND THAT IT'S REPORTED TO US ON THE SCREEN PROACTIVELY. 
          SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE HIGH VOLUMES OF SEARCHES OR IF SOMEONE WAS SEARCHING THE SAME LICENSE PLATE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND IT TELLS US. WE MIGHT SEE ONE WHERE AN OFFICER IS SEARCHING THE SAME LICENSE PLATE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME OR LONG AMOUNT OF TIME. MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY FOR A LONG TIME. THAT MIGHT BE A DETECTIVE ON A FUGITIVE UNIT TRYING TO FIND A FUGITIVE SO PROACTIVELY LOOKING PUCK MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHO ENGAGED IN MISUSE BUT THE TOOLS ARE BUILT INTO THE PROGRAM AND THEY PROACTIVELY LOOK FOR BEHAVIOR THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MISUSE AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAN 
          SEE IT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER WATTERS. >> THANK YOU CHIEF AND TO THE TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION. I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          I CONSOLIDATED THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT TO ME IN MANY WAYS AND I THINK I RECEIVED THE ANSWERS FOR MOST OF THEM EXCEPT FOR ONE. ON YOUR SLIDES YOU TALKED ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY BUILT IN. YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT A PROACTIVE AUDIT. SO MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE PROCESSES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THE DELETION OF DATA AND HOW IS THE AUDIT BEING DONE TO ENSURE THAT DELETION? 
          >> I MISSED THE LAST PART ABOUT DATA. 
          >> WHAT AUDITS ARE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THE DELETION OF THE DATA? 
          >> SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY AUDIT THE DELETION OF DATA. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IS IF WE CONDUCT A SEARCH GOING BACK 31 DAYS IT IS JUST NOT THERE. WE CAN'T SEE IT. 
          IT IS GONE. SO IF WE WANTED TO AUDIT IT IT WOULD BE VERY SIMPLE TO DO. I WOULD PICK A DAY MORE THAN 30 DAYS FROM TODAY'S DATE AND SEARCH FOR ANYTHING AND IT WOULDN'T BE THERE UNLESS WE'VE RETAINED SOMETHING FOR EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES. THE DELETION HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY AT THE 30 DAY MARK. 
          >> SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU REFERRED TO AS THE PROACTIVE AUDIT. IT IS BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          >> FOR DATA DELETION IT IS PROACTIVELY DELETED. 
          >> THE COMMANDER HAS BEEN ON THE PROGRAM SINCE THE RESEARCH OF IT, INCEPTION. HE KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN ANYONE 
          AND HE'S MY ADVISOR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CLINE. 
          >> STAFF HAS ANSWERED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          STAFF HAS ANSWERED OUR QUESTIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT COUNCIL HAS HAD. THERE'S ONE THAT SHOWS UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I HAVE HAD ANSWERED BY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOU ALL REPEAT IT. IS ANY OF THIS DATA SOLD CAN WE. 
          >> NO. >> AND IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO 
          TARGET? >> FLOCK AS A MATTER OF POLICY DOES NOT SELL THEIR DATA. THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL US. 
          ALSO THEY ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED NOT TO SHARE OR SELL OR DISCLOSE ANY OF THE DATA THAT BELONGS TO US TO ANYBODY ELSE. 
          THEY DON'T DO IT AND WE DO NOT RECIPROCALLY SHARE WITH ANY NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. WE COULDN'T IF WE WANTED TO. 
          >> AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'RE SHARING IS LIMITED TO AGENCIES THAT HAVE THE SAME GUARDRAIL PROTECTIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN CARROLLTON. THANK YOU. 
          >> I WILL ADD THAT I'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER OF FLOCK AND EXPLAINED TO HIM MY CONCERNS BASED ON THE CONCERNS OUR COUNCIL HAS. AND I MAKE SURE AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS BUT ALSO I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT IT IS NOT SOLD TO. 
          I HAVE SEEN MANY OF INTERNET QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 
          I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF FOLKS SAYING HOW DO YOU KNOW CAN WE HOW DO YOU KNOW? I AM TELLING THE MAN, IF YOU ARE DOING THIS, ONE WE ARE GOING TO BE DONE WITH YOU BUT ALSO I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO ENSURE THAT BUSINESS NO LONGER 
          EXISTS. >> SPEAKER-09: COUNCIL MEMBER 
          CARPENTER. >> THANK YOU I HAVE FOUR QUESTIONS PROBABLY FOR YOU COMMANDER. 
          YOU HAD A SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT A REQUIREMENT FOR CASE NUMBERS AND I'M CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS EVER GO BACK AND DO AN AUDIT OR REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THE CASE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN 
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ENTERED ARE ACTUALLY VALID CASE NUMBERS CAN. 
          >> SO IT'S A REQUIRED FIELD. YOU CAN'T JUST PUT 12345 IN IT. 
          BUT THE AUDIT IS DONE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING BY THE COMPLIANCE MANAGER. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT ALL OF THAT. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS NO MECHANISM TO PUT INVALID CASE NUMBER IN IN CARROLLTON. 
          >> SO TO BE CLEAR WHAT I'M ASKING IS HOW DO WE KNOW THE CASE NUMBER THAT'S BEING INPUT IS AN ACTUAL VALID CASE NUMBER 
          CAN WE. >> WELL WE DO HAVE THE CONTROL BASED ON WHAT THE OFFICER CAN ENTER INTO THE FIELD, BUT LIKE MANY THINGS WE DO RELY ON THE HUMAN TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND 
          WE DO CHECK. >> OKAY. 
          >> NEXT QUESTION. YOU HAD BIG WORDS IN THERE PURE SOC2 TYPE TWO, ISO 27,001. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT IS FOR FLOCK. THAT IS NOT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IS THAT TRUE? 
          DO YOU KNOW? >> YES THOSE ARE SECURITY PROTOCOLS FLOCK HAS IN THEIR SOFTWARE. 
          >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T SAYING THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE DOING. YOU USED THE TERM ROLE BASED ACCESS CONTROL. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS BUT CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS CAN WE. 
          >> SURE. SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE DIFFERENT JOBS AND FUNCTIONS. WE DECIDE THEIR ACCESS TO MULTIPLE SYSTEMS BASED ON WHAT THEIR JOB IS. 
          SOMEONE IN ONE ASSIGNMENT MAY REQUIRE ACCESS A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN SOMEONE IN ANOTHER ASSIGNMENT. 
          SO WHAT WE DO IS WE BUILD ROLES BASED ON WHAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO ACCESS. FOR EXAMPLE A PATROL OFFICER CAN CONDUCT SEARCHES OF POLICE AGENCIES WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT SHARE WITH US BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT PATROL OFFICERS RANDOMLY LOOKING AT STUFF OUTSIDE OF THE STATE. 
          I WANT THEM LOOKING AT THEIR SECTOR ANSWERING CALLS. 
          DETECTIVES HAVE A WIDER NET THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT ROLE. OUR PILOTS, THE LICENSED FAA HAVE A ROLE WHERE THEY CAN FLY THE DRONE. 
          OUR ANALYSTS HAVE A DIFFERENT ROLE WHERE THEY CAN CONDUCT, ADD THINGS LIKE LAYERS. IF WE WANTED TO ADD A TAG LAYER INTO THE FLOCK MAP THEY CAN DO THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE LEVELS OF ADMINISTRATIVE ROLES WHERE SUPERUSER ADMINISTRATOR BASICALLY HAS FULL FUNCTION TO MAKE ALL THE CHANGES IF THERE'S LOWER LEVEL ONE. 
          WE CAN ALLOW SOME PEOPLE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES BUT NOT FULL ACCESS BUT AS PEOPLE'S ROLES CHANGE SO DOES THEIR ACCESS. 
          IF A DETECTIVE WENT BACK TO PATROL WHICH HAPPENS FROM TIME TO TIME THEIR ROLE CHANGE SO THEIR ACCESS CHANGES. 
          >> I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION REGARDING THE ALERTS FOR ATYPICAL USE. I THINK THAT YOU INDICATED FROM MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMO S. QUESTION THAT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN TRIGGERED BECAUSE OF AN INVESTIGATION. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS HAS IT BEEN TRIGGERED WITHIN THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR AN INVALID REASON OR MISUSE OF THE SYSTEM 
          CAN WE. >> YOU MEAN A FALSE POSITIVE? 
          >> SO I AM ASSUMING THE ALERT FOR ATYPICAL USE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SAY THIS PERSON IS ENTERING A LOT OF, PUTTING THE SAME LICENSE PLATE IN. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU USED. 
          I THINK WHAT YOU WERE INDICATING IS THAT HAS BEEN TRIGGERED. 
          YOU HAVE SEEN THAT TRIGGER. MY QUESTION IS HAS IT BEEN TRIGGERED YET WITHIN THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT OR 
          AN INVALID USE OF THE SYSTEM? >> NO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY MISUSES OF THE FLOCK SYSTEM IN CARROLLTON. 
          >> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE 
          FOR NOW. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER CARPENTER. 
          IN REGARDS TO THE AUDITING AND THE CASE NUMBER. 
          TO BE CLEAR, YES THE CASE NUMBER IN ADDITION TO WHAT COMMANDER WHITE SAID, YOU HAVE TO DO AT. IT'S A MANDATORY FIELD. 
          WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT NUMBER CAN PUT 12345. 
          BUT PART OF BOTH THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED AUDITS AND THE PROACTIVE SYSTEM WHERE FLOCK FLAGS CERTAIN BEHAVIOURS, PART OF THAT REVIEW IN AUDITING DOES INCLUDE GOING INTO THAT CASE AND MAKING SURE THAT LICENSE PLATE IS EITHER IN THE CASE. 
          IF IT IS NOT WE RUN THE LICENSE PLATE TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE REGISTERED DRIVER IS AND SAY THAT IS THE SUSPECT. 
          THE OFFENSE REPORT WAS WRITTEN. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SUSPECT VEHICLE IDENTIFIED YET. BUT WE NOW CONNECT IT SO THAT'S PART OF THE AUDITING PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT IT IS AS YOU DESCRIBED IT, A GOOD CASE NU NUMBER. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER AXBERG. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          CHIEF, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          YOU CAN HELP ME AMPLIFY SOME OF THE SAFEGUARDS PIECE THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED, GUARDRAILS YOU ARE UTILIZING TO ENSURE DATA 
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PROTECTION, SECURITY PROTECTION, GOVERNANCE AND OVERSIGHT. 
          MY QUESTION IS, IT'S REALLY AROUND WHAT HAPPENS OR HOW DO WE AVOID THE CAMERAS ACCESSING PRIVATE, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PRIVATE SITUATIONS, LET'S SAY, PRIVATE RESIDENCE OR PRIVATE PROPERTY OR WHEN SOMEONE HAS THE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY, HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT INTRUDING THERE? AND WHAT KIND OF SAFEGUARDS SPECIFICALLY ARE THERE TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS PUCK PRIVACY IN CARROLLTON WHILE USING THE TECHNOLOGY? WHETHER IT BE FLOCK, LPR, ANY OF 
          THOSE THINGS. >> GREAT ACTUALLY AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE A PAIN IN THE NECK. SO WHEN WE INSTALL A CAMERA THAT THE WAY THE DEPLOYMENT MODEL WORKS IS WE PICK A LOCATION. 
          ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS ARE IN PUBLIC SPACES. 
          THERE ARE NO LOCATIONS -- FOR EXAMPLE INTERIOR NEIGHBORHOODS, A CAMERA CANNOT LOOK OVER SOMEONE'S FENCE. 
          WE JUST DON'T PUT THEM THERE. BUT WHEN WE DO PICK A LOCATION FLOCK GOES OUT AND THEY DO A SITE SURVEY AND THEY MOCK UP WHERE THE CAMERA IS GOING TO GO AND THERE'S A DIGITAL CAMERA PICTURE OF WHERE THE CAMERA IS FACING DOWN TO HOW MANY LANES OF TRAFFIC, DOWN TO THE RANGE OF THE PTZ CAMERAS. 
          THERE'S AN ARC. WE HAVE HAD IT MOVED. 
          WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND. THIS INTERSECTION IS NO GOOD. 
          IT'S GOT TO GO ON THIS LIGHT POLE OR IT HAS TO GO OVER HERE WE HAVE HEARD FROM CITIZENS WHO SAY I DON'T LIKE IT HERE. 
          IT SCARES ME. AND WE MOVED IT FURTHER AWAY. 
          BUT BEFORE ANY CAMERA GOES UP ANYWHERE, 365, 570 ALL THE WAY AROUND, WE ENSURE IT ONLY LOOKS AT PUBLIC SPACES. 
          THERE ARE NO PRIVATE YARDS, PRIVATE RESIDENCES ANY OF THE PTZ OR LPR CAMERAS CAN VIEW IN, IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. 
          >> SO TO SUMMARIZE AGAIN, IT WOULD BE THE GUARDRAILS AND GOVERNANCE ARE IN PLACE, ENSURES THAT ANYTHING THAT'S RECORDED IS IN A PUBLIC SPACE, IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. 
          THAT WOULD INCLUDE A LICENSE PLATE THAT'S ON A PUBLIC ROAD, OR ANYTHING TO THAT PERSON BECAUSE YOU ARE POLICING THAT AND YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE FIRST BEFORE ANY RECORDING OR DATA IS COLLECTED, YOU ARE ENSURING THERE'S NO PRIVATE SPACE OR ANY PERSONAL INTENT THAT THEY ARE IN A PRIVATE SPACE, THAT THAT WON'T BE INTRUDED. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> THAT IS ACCURATE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CAMERAS LOOKED AT ANY PRIVATE SPACES WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THEM FOR ANY EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES. SO THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF THEM. SO ME PERSONALLY, DELIBERATELY AND INTENTIONALLY MAKE SURE THE CAMERAS ONLY EXIST AND VIEW PUBLIC SPACES. OTHERWISE WE WOULD LOSE CASES AT 
          COURT. >> THANK YOU. 
          MY LAST QUESTION IS REALLY AROUND BOTH BEING, AND I THINK THE PRESENTATION DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF QUANTIFYING THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR SPEED, EFFICIENCY. BUT IF WE COULD QUANTIFY THAT FROM A NUMBERS STANDPOINT, AND YOU SHOWED THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS THE OVERALL REDUCTION IN CRIME BUT CAN YOU QUANTIFY SPECIFICALLY RESULTED IN FLAK CAMERA ARRESTS, AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY MAKING FROM A NUMBERS STANDPOINT. 
          AND I'M SURE BECAUSE OF YOUR RECORD, YOU HAVE THE DATA AND YOU ARE ABLE TO DRAW DIRECT CORRELATION OF THE NUMBER OF EITHER VIOLENT OR SERIOUS CRIMES THAT ARE SOLVED, ADDRESSED, PROSECUTED AS A RESULT OF THE CAMERAS BEING IN PLACE, YOU ALSO SHOULD BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY IF THE CAMERAS WERE NOT THERE, THEN WHAT YOUR RECORD WOULD BE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO BRING CRIMINALS TO JUSTICE WITHOUT THOSE CAMERAS HERE IN CARROLLTON. 
          I'M VERY INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO SEE THE IMPACT THAT YOU COULD BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY CURRENTLY IF THOSE CAMERAS ARE 
          NOT IN PLACE STARTING TOMORROW. >> YES SO HISTORICALLY, OUR METRICS HAD TO DO WITH LICENSE PLATE CAPTURES AND ALERTS SO IT WOULD INFORM WHERE WE PUT THESE CAMERAS BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED RESOURCE. WE HAD NOT DONE THE BEST JOB OF KEEPING UP WITH THE OUTCOMES BUT WE GET THAT QUESTION A LOT, BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE COUNCIL AND EVEN OTHER CITIES WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT. AND SO WE RECENTLY HAVE BEEN DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PROACTIVELY TYING OFFENSES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND OUTCOMES. EVEN IF THE OUTCOME IS A 
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MISREAD, OR UNABLE TO LOCATE THE VEHICLE. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU THOUGH IS THE COMMODITY IS TIME. 
          TODAY I HAD DETECTIVES SEARCHING FOR A FELONY THEFT SUSPECT ENGAGED IN ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT. 
          HAD 13 FELONY WARRANTS IN MULTIPLE CITIES INCLUDING CARROLLTON. WE SPENT ABOUT 100 MAN HOURS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND FOUND OUT THIS AFTERNOON WITH LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR WE HAD A TRAGEDY IN ONE OF OUR BUSINESS PARKS, WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL SHOT FOUR PEOPLE, MURDERED OR ONE, DROVE TO ANOTHER LOCATION, SHOT AND KILLED ANOTHER PERSON. 
          AND WE WERE SEARCHING FOR THIS PERSON, DOING FIRST AID AND CLEARING BUILDINGS ALL AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND WE FOUND THAT INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE OF A FLOCK LICENSE PLATE HIT. WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THAT PERSON WHO WAS DRIVING AROUND THE CITY LOOKING FOR VICTIMS IN JAIL THAT DAY. I CAN GIVE YOU ENDLESS ANECDOTES ANECDOTES BUT WE HAVE TO BE BETTER WITH KEEPING UP WITH THE DATA. BUT I SUPERVISE A NARCOTICS UNIT AND WHEN I ASK THEM, THEY JUST THROW THEIR HANDS UP AND SAY ALL OF OUR CASES, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SO USEFUL, WE USE IT SO FREQUENTLY, IT IS HARD TO COUNT BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO 
          A BETTER JOB OF DOING THAT. >> LET ME ADD THAT LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME, I MET WITH MANY CHIEFS FROM THE METROPLEX. 
          WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UNBELIEVABLE, DRAMATIC DOWNTURN IN CRIME. THE ONE THING THAT WE KEPT LOOKING AT WAS CAR THEFTS. BECAUSE THE YEARS PRIOR THEY WERE GOING UP. THEY WERE JUST ON A ROCKET GOING UP. AND THEY WERE DOWN 20%, 25%. 
          30%. AND I'M TALKING THE CITIES THAT WE BORDER. AND IT IS DUE TO FLOCK. 
          ALONG WITH THE OTHER CRIMES, CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS. 
          SHOOTING UP ON A ROCKET DROPPED. COMING FROM OTHER CITIES TO OUR CITY TO VICTIMIZE OUR CITIZENS, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK THEM BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO GET BACK TO THEIR NEIGHBORING CITIES. SO I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT HAS MADE IT A TREMENDOUS IMPACT IN THOSE AREAS. 
          >> THANK YOU CHIEF. IF I MAY MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, I APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE THE EXAMPLES BOTH COMMANDER AND CHIEF HAS BEEN ABLE TO STATE. IN MY MIND THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THERE IS CERTAINLY A MASSIVE GAIN IN EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS EFFECTIVENESS WITH THE USE OF THESE PARTICULAR CAMERAS. 
          BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS DATA DRIVEN AS THE COMMANDER MENTIONED BEFORE THERE SHOULD BE A WAY THAT WE CAN PRETTY CLOSE TO DEFINITIVELY BE ABLE TO TRACK THE EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY SPECIFICALLY WITH THESE CAMERAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL CRIME NUMBERS, THERE'S NO DOUBT. 
          YOU CAN DRAW THAT CORRELATION BECAUSE THE DATA IS SO SPECIFIC WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY SPECIFICALLY THESE CAMERAS WERE INVOLVED IN THIS MEANING ARREST BUT, SUBJUGATED OR ADDRESSED THESE MANY CRIMES MOVING FORWARD. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN BE ABLE TO BOTH QUALIFY AND QUANTIFY BOTH THE EFFECTIVENESS AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. >> YES, SIR. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE STARTED LOOKING AT JUST A FEW MONTHS BACK TO TRY TO TRACK THAT. 
          IT TAKES AN EXTRA INTENTIONAL EFFORT TO SAY THIS WAS SOLVED THROUGH FLOCK. WE ARE RETRAINING OUR OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR IN THE PAST. WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO NOT JUST SHOW YOU SUCCESS STORIES BUT ALSO SHOW 
          YOU THE NUMBERS. >> THANK YOU CHIEF DEPUTY 
          MAYOR. >> LET ME ASK AGAIN. 
          THOSE STANDING IN THE DOORWAY. PLEASE ENTER. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF SEATS HERE. THIS IS AN OPEN MEETING. 
          AN OPEN ONGOING WORKEDUCATION AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME IN AND MAKE YOURSELF AS HOME AS COUNCIL HAS THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AGAIN REMINDER WHEN WE'RE FINISHED AND HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS AS PART OF THE WORK SESSION, WE WILL START OUR NORMAL MEETING. 
          OUR REGULAR MEETING. AND THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SPECIFICALLY FOR ITEM NUMBER 13 ADDITIONAL PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. OKAY MY NEXT QUESTION FROM 
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          COUNCIL IS LISA SUTTER. >> YEAH, I WANTED TO FIRST THANK EVERYONE FOR THE QUESTIONS. 
          BECAUSE THEY WERE GREAT AND INFORMATIVE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I GUESS IS QUESTION I WANT TO ASK IS TO CONFIRM THAT THE CITY OWNS 100% OF THE DATA. 
          AND THAT THE DATA IS NEVER SOLD OR SHARED BY FLOCK AND FLOCK DOES NOT PUBLICALLY REPLEASE ANY DATA. 
          IT IS A CARROLLTON CONTAINED DATA BASE. 
          >> CARROLLTON CONTAINED? IT'S IN THE GOVERNMENT CLOUD. 
          BUT TO ALL YOUR QUESTION, I CAN CONFIRM THAT, YES. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND IF WE DISCOVERED ABUSE, WOULD THERE BE DECISIVE DISCIPLINE FOR THEIR ACTION? 
          >> SWIFT AND DECISIVE ON MY PART. 
          >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. 
          >> YES, SIR. FIRST OF ALL CHIEF I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING UP AND FOR THIS PRESENTATION THAT'S GREATLY NEEDED. YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE MIS-USE FROM TIME TO TIME. HOW MANY MISUSE CASES HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED WITHIN CARROLLTON OF FOLKS MISUSING THE FLOCK 
          SYSTEM? >> NONE. 
          >> OKAY. HAS ANYBODY EVER BEEN 
          DISCIPLINED FOR IMPROPER USE? >> NOT ON THE FLOCK SYSTEM 
          WHILE I'VE BEEN HERE, NO. >> AND IN WHAT COMPLIANCE REPORTS ARE PROVIDED TO CITY MANAGEMENT AND/OR CITY COUNCIL? ANY? WHAT COMPLIANCE REPORTS ARE PROVIDED TO THE CITY MANAGEMENT AND/OR CITY COUNCIL, IF ANY? 
          >> I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY AT THE MOMENT, DO WE? 
          >> NO, SIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL. OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLIANCE MANAGER DOES CONDUCT AUDITS. BUT THAT EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GO 
          AFTERWARDS. >> AND MY LAST QUESTION HERE, I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEMS TECHNOLOGY CAN BE VERY VALUABLE. 
          LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOLS. I SUPPORT PROVIDING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH EFFECTIVE RESOURCES TO COMBAT CRIME. 
          RECOVER STOLEN VEHICLES AND LOCATE MISSING PERSONS. 
          AND RESPOND TO AMBER ALERTS. HOWEVER, THE QUESTION BEFORE US TO ME IS NOT WHETHER THE FLOCK TECHNOLOGY WORKS. 
          THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THIS SYSTEM IN THE INTERIOR OF OUR CITY OUTWEIGH THE RISKS OF PRIVACY, CIVIL LIBERTIES, PUBLIC TRUST. AND THE POTENTIAL FOR MISUSE. 
          THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEBATE AROUND FLOCK TECHNOLOGY IS NOT BASED ON THE IDEA OF A SINGLE CAMERA OBSERVATION IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE ARGUMENT IS THAT A NETWORK OF SYSTEM-- FLOCK SYSTEMS THAT STORES DATA, SHARES DATA AMONG AGENCIES, RETAINS INFORMATION OVER TIME. 
          AND ALLOWS RETROSPECTIVE SEARCHES MAY BE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM OUR OFFICERS SIMPLY OBSERVING A VEHICLE TRAVELLING ON THE PUBLIC ROADWAY. 
          SO THE ARGUMENT TO ME IS ROOTED MORE IN WHAT COURTS AND LEGAL SCHOLARS OFTEN REFER TO AS THE MOSAIC THEORY. 
          OR A MOSAIC PRINCIPLE. THE CONCERN IS THAT WHILE A SINGLE OBSERVATION MADE REVEAL VERY LITTLE, THOUSANDS OF OBSERVATIONS AGGREGATED IN A SEARCHABLE DATA BASE CAN REVEAL INTIMATE DETAILS ABOUT A PERSON'S LIFE INCLUDING WHERE THEY WORK, WORSHIP, SEEK MEDICAL TREATMENT, ATTEND SCHOOLS. CONDUCT BUSINESS, AND FOR ME, GO TO THE CIGAR BAR OCCASIONALLY. 
          SO TO ME, THAT'S WHAT I SEE IN THIS WHOLE THING. 
          IS MAKING SURE THAT OUR RIGHTS ARE NOT STOMPED UPON. 
          AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE IN TACT. 
          I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S COURT CASES OUT THERE THAT HAVE SAID THAT ALPR CAMERAS ARE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS CHATTIER VERSUS UNITED STATES WHERE DEMONSTRATING A WILLINGNESS TO SCRUTINIZE TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS THE GOVERNMENT TO RECONSTRUCT A PERSON'S PAST MOVEMENT. FOR LOCATION INFORMATION. 
          WHETHER THE FUTURE OF COURSE EXTENDS THOSE PRIVACY PROTECTIONS TO TO ALPR, FLOCK SYSTEM REMAINS TO BE SEEN. 
          HOWEVER THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE IS CLEARLY EVOLVING. 
          AND SO MY POSITION HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN THERE IS A MEANINGFUL DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON AND MONITORING THE MOVES THROUGHOUT THE INTERIOR OF CARROLLTON. 
          THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. 
          AND I RESPECT EVERYTHING YOU SAID. 
          AND I RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. 
          I HAVE LIVED MY ENTIRE LIFE AS A SOLDIER OR AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. BELIEVING IN THAT VERY THING. 
          IT HAS NOT CHANGED THROUGH THE USE OF FLOCK OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          [01:30:04]
AGAIN I RESPECT EVERYTHING YOU SAID. 
          I'M GOING TO DO MY JOB AND ENSURE THAT THERE IS NOT MISUSE. IF THE COURTS RULE IT DIFFERENTLY, THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT TOO. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO, RIGHT? IT'S THE RULING. 
          IF OUR LEGISLATURE DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO REGULATE IT, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT TOO. BUT CURRENTLY IT'S THE BEST TOOL WE HAVE TO REDUCE CRIME. AND FIND OUR LOVED ONES. 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PRO TEM 
          PELOMA. >> MY QUESTION IS AROUND CYBER SECURITY. I TRUST YOU GUYS WITH OUR PUBLIC SECURITY. BUT I DON'T KNOW COMMANDER IF YOU AND YOU MAY HAVE, PLEASE DON'T TAKE ANY OFFENSE, IF YOU ARE CYBER SECURITY GURU IN THIS CASE. 
          AND WE'RE DEALING WITH PERSONAL DATA HERE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, WHERE IS CARROLLTON'S DATA STORED? WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR ANY SECURITY BREACHES ON THAT D DATA? AND WHERE ON THE VENDOR SIDE DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO CARROLLTON'S OWNED DATA, IF ANY. 
          >> SO I AM NOT A CYBER SECURITY OR I.T. PROFESSIONAL. 
          AND WE RELY ON OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT WHO ARE VERY GOOD AT THIS. I CAN TELL YOU OUR DATA IS STORED IN THE CLOUD. IT'S A FUNCTION OF CONTRACT. 
          IF WE STORE IT ON SITE, IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          AND FLOCK'S MODEL IS THEY STORE IT IN THE CLOUD. 
          AND THEY'VE DISCUSSED THEIR PARTICULAR CYBER SECURITY SYSTEMS. BUT I'M NOT A CYBER SECURITY EXPERT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PERSONAL DATA THAT WE MAINTAIN IS SECURE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PIECE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION. 
          WHETHER IT'S A CRIMINAL HISTORY OR A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR ANY OTHER HIGHLY SENSITIVE PIECE OF INFORMATION. 
          EVIDENCE COMES IN OUR CITY ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE TO SECURE IT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF 
          MY EXPERTISE. >> COUNCILMEMBER AND MAYOR I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CIO TO APPROACH. 
          BECAUSE I WANT TO FOLLOW UP, THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER FROM ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AB ABOUT-- ISO27001 AND IT REALLY DEALS WITH CLOUD BASED APPLICATIONS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE FLOCK SYSTEM IS CLOUD BASED. REGARDING PENETRATION TESTING AND HACKING OF DATA AND DATA SECURITY AND SO FORTH. 
          CAN YOU MAYBE JUST ADD SOME COLOR BASED ON THE PRIOR QUESTION AROUND SOCK TWO THE QUESTION YOU JUST HEARD. 
          AND MY LEAD IN REGARDING DATA PROT PROTECTION, PENETRATION TESTING AND THE LIKE. 
          >> SO OF COURSE LET'S START WITH THE SOCK TWO'S QUESTION. 
          AT THE STATION FOR AN ORGANIZATION. 
          THAT THEY FOLLOW A SET OF RULES THAT ARE SET UP AROUND ACCESS CONTROL, OPERATIONS, RISK, THERE'S A SLEW OF THEM. 
          THERE'S THREE PARTS OF SOCK. ONE OF THEM IS FOR FINANCIAL REPORTING. ANOTHER ONE IS OPERATIONS AT-- THREE. TWO PULSE IT ALL TOGETHER INTO ONE SUMMARY FOR EVERYBODY. SO IN ESSENCE ALL SOFTWARE HAS TO HAVE A SOCK TWO COMPLIANCE. IT'S JUST KIND OF-- HEY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IT IS. AND THERE'S AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR THAT TO SAY THAT WE VERIFY THEIR CONTROLS AND THEY ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. AS FAR AS TO ANSWER YOUR 
          QUESTION? >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP BUT GO 
          AHEAD. >> AS FAR AS AWS. 
          HAS WHAT'S CALLED A GOVERNMENT TENANT. 
          SO THEY HAVE A CORPORATE TENANT AND A GOVERNMENT TENANT. 
          THE CORPORATE-- THE GOVERNMENT TENET HAS TO FOLLOW A SET OF RULES FOR A FED RAMP FOR YOU NAME IT. 
          SLEWS AND SLEWS OF REGULATIONS OUT THERE. 
          YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT IN REGULATORY LAW TO FIGURE THEM ALL OUT. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY SERVICE COMPANIES THAT NEED TO HAVE FEDERAL SECURITY STANDARDS OR SOME TYPE OF ENHANCED SECURITY STANDARDS FOR GOVERNMENT. SO IN OUR CASE POTENTIALLY CGIS OR-- LET'S SAY THAT THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH A PUBLIC 
          [01:35:07]
ENTITY FOR AI. SO WITHIN THERE THERE'S A WHOLE SET OF WHAT'S CALLED ISO STANDARDS. 
          AND NOT ONLY IS AWS HAVE THOSE STANDARDS BUT FLOCK ALSO REPORTS THAT THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH A SLEW OF STANDARDS. 
          LIKE 27001, 27701. ALL THE WAY DOWN TO-- I LOOKED UP BEFORE I CAME IN HERE. ISO 42001 WHICH IS THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR AN ORGANIZATION. 
          >> AND AS A CITY. PART OF THE CITY IS DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE. ALL SYSTEMS. WHETHER IT'S MICROSOFT OFFICE, TEAMS, ZOOM, OR BLOCK, RIGHT. 
          PRESUMABLY THERE ARE PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS FOR THE I.T. ORGANIZATION TO CHECK. AND OBVIOUSLY LEVERAGE THOSE EXISTING. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? 
          >> WHERE WE CAN, RIGHT. IN SOME CASES, I DO BELIEVE THE FINANCIAL CLEARS THE SOCK FOR US TO MOVE THROUGH WITH PROCUREMENT. BUT WHERE WE CAN SOMETIMES SOLUTIONS LIKE IF WE WERE TO BE USING SOMETHING SIMPLE. 
          THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IN PLACE. 
          BUT WE TRY TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW AND CHECK 
          EVERY BOX WE POSSIBLY CAN. >> OKAY. 
          AND I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT FROM MY COMPANY SOCK TWO COMPLIANT. WE PASS THOSE AUDITS AND THAT IS TO YOUR POINT, THAT IS THE GOLD STANDARD. 
          IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT YOU'VE UNDERGONE INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF YOUR SYSTEMS. YOUR CONTROLS. 
          YOUR ACCESS. YOUR USER RIGHTS AND DATA INTEGRITY ET CETERA TO ENSURE THOSE THAT YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST STANDARD. THE GOLD STANDARD IF YOU WILL, RIGHT? AND ANY CUSTOMER THAT SIGNS UP FOR US WOULD THEN BASICALLY RELY ON THAT AUDIT. 
          IT'S NOT OUR AUDIT. IT'S NOT THEIR AUDIT. 
          IT'S AN INCIDENT AUDIT. >> PATROLS THAT SOMEBODY 
          VALIDATES. >> OKAY. 
          COUNCIL AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS PART OF THE WORK SESSION, YOU MAY COME IN THERE. 
          OKAY I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOW, AGAIN. 
          THIS IS THE WORK SESSION ONLY. SO COUNCIL AS PART OF THIS, WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR WORK SESSION. 
          WE'RE THEN GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO OUR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          WE WILL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RATHER BREAK IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS TO USE THE RESTROOM. AND THEN WE WILL RECONVENE INTO OUR REGULAR SESSION. WITH THAT WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED FOR OUR WORKSESSION. FOR THOSE IN THE 
          [***REGULAR MEETING 7:00 PM***]
          [INVOCATION - Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Jason Carpenter]
          >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND TO DISCUSS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES. 
          IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A CLEAR MIND AND A CLEAR CONSCIENCE. I PRAY THAT WHERE WE DISAGREE, THAT WE WOULD COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MORE TO LEARN FROM THE OTHER SIDE. AND I PRAY LORD THAT ALL THAT WE DO THAT WE HONOUR YOU. IN YOUR NAME I PRAY, AMEN. 
          >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          >> AND THE TEXAS FLAG. >> OKAY, COUNCIL OUR FIRST 
          [6. 7754 Present A Proclamation Recognizing Emergency Preparedness Month.]
ORDER OF BUSINESS. IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH. IF I COULD HAVE OUR E EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF PLEASE JOIN ME. 
          >> THANK YOU. OUR CORRECT R DIRECTOR ELLIOT REAP AND HIS STAFF UP HERE FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. 
          AND AS A CITY, BEING THE COMMUNITY THAT FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES WANT TO CALL HOME. THAT'S OUR VISION. 
          [01:40:02]
AT THE HEART OF THAT IS KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE. 
          WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY HERE TONIGHT. 
          FOR AN AGENDA ITEM. WHEN DISASTERS OCCUR. 
          OR ACTS OF GOD OCCUR. IT'S OUR EMERGENCEY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL THAT STEP UP. OR WHEN TRAIN DERAILMENTS PERHAPS OCCUR. OTHER MASS CASUALTY TYPE OF EVENTS OCCUR, IT'S OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT STEPS UP AND COORDINATES ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE AS A COUNCIL RECOGNIZE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH. SO ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION. 
          WHEREAS EMERGENCEYS AND DISASTERS CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME AND BEING PREPARED IN ADVANCE CAN HELP PROTECT LIVES, PROPERTY AND THE WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ALL HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN PREPARING FOR EMERGENCIES. INCLUDING SEVERE WEATHER, HEALTH EMERGENCIES, POWER OUTAGES, AND OTHER UNEXPECTED EVENTS. AND WHEREAS TAKING SIMPLE STEPS SUCH AS CREATING AN EMERGENCY SUPPLY KIT. 
          DEVELOPING A FAMILY COMMUNICATION PLAN, KNOWING EVACUATION ROUTES AND STAYING INFORMED ABOUT LOCAL ALERTS CAN MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE WHERE AN E EMERGENCY OCCURS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARROLLTON'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO BE PREPARED FOR. RESPOND TO AND RECOVER FROM EMERGENCIES. WITH EVALUATION RESOURCES AND EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE PREPARED COMMUNITY AND A RESILIENT COMM COMMUNITY. 
          TO HELP CREATE A SAFER AND STRONGER CARROLLTON FOR EVERYONE. NOW THEREFORE I STEVE BABICK MAYOR OF THE GREAT CITY OF CARROLLTON AND CITY IN TEXAS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE AUTHORITY OF OUR CITY COUNCIL THIS MONTH BEING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          >> WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR. 
          CITY COUNCIL AND MANAGEMENT. FOR OUR PROGRAM. 
          BEING ABLE TO HAVE A CONFERENCE PROGRAM IN CARROLLTON IS A PRIVILEGE AND DONE IN COOPERATION WITH THE CITY AND EVERYONE HERE ALSO TO THANK INTERN ROSS THEY HELP MAKE OUR PROGRAM EXCELLENT AND I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT WE DO WITHOUT THEM. AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE LOOK FAR AROUND TO SEE WHY PREPAREDNESS IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO IT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE IT TODAY. 
          TWO PART THING FOR HOMES AND FAMLYS AND RESIDENTS OF CARROLLTON. AND THE CITY'S PART. 
          FOR YOU RESIDENTS OF CARROLLTON IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE THREE THINGS DONE. GO HOME AND LOOK AT IT. 
          HAVING YOUR EMERGENCY SUPPLY KIT. 
          YOUR FAMILY EMERGENCY PLAN AND MULTIPLE WAYS TO RECEIVE WARNINGS. IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, YOU'LL BE MUCH MORE RESILIENT AT HOME WHICH WILL HELP US. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HELP OUT WITH THE CITY WE HAVE OUR RESPONSE PROGRAM THAT RYAN RUNS. 
          WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU INVOLVED WITH THAT FOOP THANK YOU VERY 
          MUCH AND WE APPRECIATE IT. >> ALL RIGHT COUNCIL OUR FIRST 
          [CITIZEN COMMENT]
ORDER OF BUSINESS NOW IS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. 
          THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM. I'M GOING TO BREAK IT INTO TWO. 
          ONE WILL BE FOR AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 8 THROUGH 12. 
          AND 14 AND 15. THAT EXCLUDES THE FLOCK. 
          WE'LL DO THAT ONE BY ITSELF AFTERWARDS. 
          AFTER WE TAKE ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS. SO IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 8 THROUGH 12. 14 AND 15 YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THOSE ITEMS. SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO SO I 
          [CONSENT AGENDA ]
WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THOSE ITEMS. AND WITH THAT WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 9. 
          WHICH IS THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 1ST MEETING. 
          REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. SO COUNCIL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT. 
          10 THROUGH 12 AND 14 AND 15. COUNCIL MEMBER KLEIN? 
          >> THANK YOU MAYOR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 8, 10 THROUGH 12, 14 AND 15. 
          [01:45:06]
          >> OKAY AND MAYOR PRO TEM PALOMO. 
          >> OKAY I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND. >> SO MOVED AND SECONDED TO MOVE ITEM 8 10 THROUGH 12 AND 14 AND 15. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE 
          [*9. 7753 Consider Approval Of The September 1, 2026 Regular Council Meeting Minutes.]
VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER NINE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. AND WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING. 
          >> YES MR. MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 1 2026 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. 
          >> LOOKING FOR A SECOND. >> I'D LIKE TO SECOND THE 
          MOTION MAYOR. >> COUNCIL I HAVE A MOTION AND COUNCIL BY COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER AXBERG. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? 
          COUNCILMEMBER PALOMO. >> WAS THERE ANY AMENDMENTS? WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING INDIVIDUAL? 
          >> REQUESTED TO BE PULLED. SO INDIVIDUAL. 
          >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS. 
          I WILL CALL THE VOTE. AND THE MOTION PASSES 
          [*13. 7749 Consider Authorizing The City Manager To Execute A Cooperative Agreement With Flock Safety For The Lease Of 82 IP Cameras And Supporting Software Services In An Annual Expenditure Amount Not To Exceed $398,258.34 For A Total Contract Amount Not To Exceed $1,194,775.02.]
UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL WITH THAT TAKESTOUS ITEM NUMBER 13. THIS IS CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH FLOCK SAFETY FOR THE LEASE OF 82I.P. CAMERAS AND SUPPORTING SOFTWARE SERVICES IN AN ANNUAL EXPENDITURE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 398,250 $258.34. FOR A TOTAL CONTACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,194,775.02. ANY SO FOR THIS ONE AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. 
          I WILL REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT MANY OF YOU THERE HAVE SAME QUESTIONS. OR I WILL ASK THAT IF YOU'VE HEARD THE QUESTION FIVE TIMES, IT'S PROBABLY NOT NEEDED TO MAKE IT A SIXTH. BUT WE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR TIME TO SPEAK. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT MY FIRST-- OKAY WHAT'S THIS? ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO START WITH-- THESE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER. OH GOT IT. 
          SO I WILL START WITH A GROUP THAT WANTS TO GO IN A PARTICULAR ORDER. JEFFREY FOUST. 
          ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES GIVEN THE NUMBER OF CARDS WE HAVE. WE WILL BE PRETTY STRICT ON THAT. DO ME A FAVOR AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND THE CITY OF YOUR RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. YOU MAY START ANY TIME. 
          >> ALL RIGHT YEAH WELL I WON'T NEED THE ENTIRE THREE MINUTES BUT YEAH GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS JJ FAUST I AM A CARROLLTON RESIDENT LIVING ON CROMWELL DRIVE AND TONIGHT I'M ASKING YOU TO REMOVE THE FLOCK CONTRACT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND VOTE NO. 
          FOR MONTHS RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN COMING FORWARD TO THIS COUNCIL ASKING YOU TO END CARROLLTON'S USE OF THE LPRS AND ASKING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. YET TONIGHT INSTEAD OF HOLDING THAT HEARING, THIS COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON EXPANDING THE PROGRAM. AND I WANT THIS CLEARLY STATED FOR THE RECORD, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PUBLIC HEARING IN CARROLLTON ASKING RESIDENTS WHETHER WE CONSENT TO THE DEPLOYMENT OF THIS SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. 
          THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION BEGINS WITH A PRINCIPLE THAT SHOULD GUIDE THIS DECISION. ALL POLITICAL POWER IS INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE AND ALL FREE GOVERNMENTS ARE FOUNDED ON THEIR AUTHORITY. AND INSTITUTED FOR THEIR BENEFIT. THE RESIDENTS FOLLOWING ME TONIGHT WILL EXPLAIN WHY THIS MATTERS. 
          YOU WILL HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. 
          THE SCOPE OF THIS SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. 
          CONTROL OF OUR DATA. CYBER SECURITY, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND SOME SERIOUS UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT CARROLLTON'S USE OF THIS SYSTEM. 
          WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO ACCEPT OUR CONCLUSION TONIGHT, WE'RE 
          [01:50:04]
ASKING YOU NOT TO MAKE THE DECISION BEFORE HEARING THE EVIDENCE. IF POLITICAL POWER TRULY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, GIVE THE PEOPLE A VOICE IN THIS DECISION. PULL THE FLOCK CONTRACT FROM CONSENT, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, AND GET THE ANSWERS THAT ARE STILL MISSING. THEN YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION IN PUBLIC AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MY NEXT SPEAKER IS BRIAN CHANDLER. AND YOUR NAME AND CITY OF 
          RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS BRIAN CHANDLER I LIVE HERE IN CARROLLTON ON CONCORD DRIVE. 
          I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON CIVIL LIBERTIES. 
          AND AH INACCURATE LICENSE PLATE READING IS NOT JUST AN INACCURATE RECORD. IT CAN BECOME A STOP, DETENTION, AN ARREST, A DANGEROUS SITUATION POTENTIALLY FOR CITIZENS AND FOR OUR OFFICERS. 
          THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE DATA ERROR. 
          BUT EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM THAN THAT IS THE SURVEILLANCE RECORD ITSELF. IT'S-- THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY LETS THE GOVERNMENT-- IF THEY WANT. 
          IF THEY CHOOSE OR EVEN IF AN INDIVIDUAL CHOOSES. 
          THEY COULD BUILD A RECORD OF EXACTLY WHERE WE GO ALL THE TIME. THEY COULD KNOW WHAT GUN RANGE WE GO TO. HOW OFTEN. 
          WHERE WE VOTE. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG PROBLEM. 
          AND NOT JUST US BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN TONE DATA. 
          WELL WE OWN IT. BUT FLOCK HAS A IRREVOCABLE LICENSE TO THAT DATA. SO IF SOMETHING CHANGE, THE FIRMWARE CHANGES WHAT THEY CAN DO. 
          JUST BECAUSE THEY AGREED TO NOT MISBEHAVE. 
          DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL NEVER MISBEHAVE. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF A BIG PROBLEM. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF BIG ORGANIZATIONS THAT AGREE THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY A VERY LARGE PROBLEM. 
          DEFACTO LISTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR INSTANCE GUN OWNERS OR FOLLOWING PARTICULAR CREED. SO THE NRA NOTABLY NOT FOR MASS SURVEILLANCE. THE TEAMSTERS UNION. 
          THE ACLU AND THE TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY FOUNDATION ARE ALL AGAINST THIS TYPE OF TEC TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST ABOUT PEOPLE IT'S ABOUT THE WAY WE GOVERN OURSELVES. AND THIS COMMENTING DOWN UPON SUS AN INFRINGEMENT OF OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO LIGHTLY. 
          AND JUST THE POTENTIAL FOR STOMPING ALL OVER OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES IS A REAL PROBLEM. AT MINIMUM, WE NEED CLEAR LEGAL STANDARDS. DOCUMENTED JUSTIFICATION. 
          SUPERVISOR APPROVAL. STRICT ACCESS CONTROLS. 
          INDEPENDENT AUDITS AND MEANINGFUL INCONSEQUENTIAL USE WHICH I BELIEVE WERE ADDRESSED EARLYER. 
          BUT IT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC REALM IN THE WAY THAT WE CAN AUDIT IT. OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD A SEARCHABLE DATA BASE OF OUR ACTIVITIES AND OUR MOTIONS THAT SHOULDN'T BE B THE DEFACTO WAY THE GOVERNMENT RUNS. THEY SHOULD NEED A WARRANT FOR THAT. WE HAVE A RIGHT ALL OFTOUS LIVE, TRAVEL, WORSHIP AND ASSOCIATE ALL OF OUR LAWFUL RIGHTS WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT RECORD OF WHERE WE GO. 
          PLEASE THENNED PROGRAM. WE DO NOT CONSENT TO THIS. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NEXT-- OKAY WE'RE NOT-- YA'LL PLEASE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUTBURSTS. 
          SO EVERYONE-- YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE SOME. 
          AND NOT LIKE SOME. LET'S KEEP THE MEETING MOVING. 
          MY NEXT SPEAKER IS HANNA FAUST. >> GOOD EVENING. 
          HANNA FAUST CROMWELL DRIVE TONIGHT I'M CITING GOVERNANCE ISSUES. I'VE PROVIDED A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS BEHIND THE BIG PACKET I'VE GIVEN YOU. 
          THE FIRST IS A SET OF NETWORK AUDIT LOGS FROM TIFFWOOD GEORGIA, LYNNWOOD, WASHINGTON AND SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS. 
          YOU WILL SEE HIGHLIGHTED ON EACH CARROLLTON PD CONDUCTED SEARCHES OF 2025 PROTESTS AS THE JUSTIFICATION. 
          REPORTING FROM THIS TIME FRAME CONFIRMS THERE WAS NO ARREST OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY SO I URGE COUNCIL MEMBERS PLEASE, GET A RESPONSE FROM CPD ON WHY THEY WOULD BE TRACKING A PEACEFUL PROTESTER. A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT THAT WE ALL HOLD DEAR. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE VARYING DATA BROACHES. THE FIRST ONE AND TIFFDON THAT PROVIDES AN AUDIT LOG WITH USER NAMES REDACTED. 
          LYNNWOOD AND SALEM PROVIDE USER NAMES AND LICENSE PLATES. 
          CPD IS CONTROL OF THEIR OWN DATA PER FLOCK. 
          BUT ONCE THE DATA IS IN A SHARED NETWORK, THEY NO LONGER CAN CONTROL HOW OTHERS ARE USING OR SHARING THE DATA. 
          [01:55:01]
NEXT FILE I'VE SHARED WITH YOU IS A CHUNKY ONE. 
          THOSE ARE THE AUDIT LOGS FROM FLUGERVILLE, TEXAS. 
          FROM MID FEBRUARY TO AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. 
          THE GRAPH ON THE FRONT SHOWS CPD WAS SEARCHING FLUGARVILLE'S DATA MORE THAN 4,000 TIMES A MONTH IN AVERAGE OF 5500 TIMES PER MONTH. SINCE THE CPD TRANSPARENCY PORTAL HAS BEEN PUBLISHED THE SEARCH TOTAL LISTED HAS BEEN AROUND A THOUSAND SEARCHES PER MONTH. 
          THAT IS A 400% DIFFERENCE. EITHER THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE REPORTING AND THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL, OR CPD HAS DRASTICALLY REDUCED SEARCHES SINCE CITIZENS STARTED COMING AND ASKING QUESTIONS. WE'VE ALSO SEEN IN THIS DATA AND YOU CAN ASK THE POLICE OFFICERS TO PROVIDE THOSE AUDIT LOGS. LESS THAN 10% OF THE SEARCHES DONE BEFORE MID-JULY INCLUDED A CASE NUMBER. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY SAID WAS AN IMPORTANT CONTROL. 
          THE OTHER THING WE SEE FROM THIS FLUGARVILLE DATA IS THAT CPD DOES NOT HAVE THE GUIDANCE FOR THE OPEN TEXT. 
          THOSE ARE THE FOLLOWING PAGES. THESE ARE THE JUSTIFICATIONS. 
          EVERYTHING OFFICERS ARE TYPING. CJ OR SUS AS A REASON TO SEARCH. WHICH DOES NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH INSIGHT FOR EFFECTIVE AUDIT IN MY OPINION. 
          BUT OTHER SEARCHES IN THIS FILE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBERS. FULL NAMES. 
          ADDRESSES. AND NOTES TO OTHER OFFICERS. 
          THIS IS AN ISSUE WITH MAJOR IMPLICATIONS FOR TPIA REQUESTS. 
          OFFICER SAFETY AND LIABILITY FOR THE CITY IN MY OPINION. 
          BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT SHOWS THAT OFFICERS KNEW THAT NO ONE WAS WATCHING. IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ME THAT I AM BRINGING THIS IN FRONT OF OUR CITY COUNCIL. 
          I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS CITY. I APPRECIATE THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS. AND ONE THING I WANT TO ASK HIM IS HOW HE WOULD FEEL, I KNOW HE SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SPEAKING TO VICTIMS OF CRIMES. I COULD NOT LOOK A VICTIM OF STOCKING IN THE EYES AND SAY THAT YOU WERE A CARROLLTON RESIDENT AND YOUR DATA WAS SHARED OUTSIDE OF CARROLLTON AND AN OFFICER FROM ANOTHER CITY USED THAT DATA TO STALK A VICTIM. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS CLAIRE 
          NIEKO. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL. 
          SO I'M HERE TO CHAT WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT THE BORING STUFF. 
          I'M THEOR TALK ABOUT CYBER SECURITY AND NATIONAL SECURITY. 
          AND I KNOW WHY DOES THIS MATTER? WE DON'T HAVE MILITARY BASES IN CARROLLTON. 
          WE ARE MILES FROM THE NEAREST INTERNATIONAL BORDER. 
          BUT IT MATTERS BECAUSE THE LOCATION DATA ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WORK, LIVE AND TRAVEL THROUGH OUR CITY IS STILL EXTREMELY SENSITIVE. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHO DRIVES THROUGH THIS CITY, WE HAVE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          WE HAVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN OUR CRIT CALL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          MILITARY PERSONNEL, JOURNALISTS, BUSINESS LEADERS. 
          A DATA BASE THAT RECORDS WHERE PEOPLE GO IS A DATA BASE THAT CAN REVEAL PATTERNS OF THEIR LIVES. 
          SO THAT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS SHOWING YOU'RE HOME ALONE TONIGHT BECAUSE YOUR SPOUSE IS OUT OF TOWN. 
          SO THAT MAKES YOU A POTENTIAL TARGET. 
          OR IT COULD BE AS BIG AS GIVING OUR ADVERSARIES A DETAILED PICTURE OF YOUR MOVEMENTS. YOUR ROUTINES. 
          WHO YOU LOVE. WHO YOU TRUST. 
          ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE IN THE HANDS OF A BAD ACTOR. PUTTING ON MY NATIONAL SECURITY HAT. FORMER D.O. DMENT PERSON. 
          THE MORE CAMERAS THAT WE DEPLOY, THE MORE JURISDICTIONS THAT WE CONNECT, YES, OKAY, GREAT. 
          FLOCK HAS THEIR ISO CERTS. THAT SPEAKS TO THE COMPANY ITSELF. BUT WHO ARE WE GRANTING ACCESS TO? FLOCK ITSELF, GREAT. 
          THEY'VE WON THEIR SEARCH. BUT IF WE ARE CONNECTING ALL OF THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO IT, THAT'S STILL A VULNERABILITY. SO THE LONGER THAT INFORMATION IS RETAINED, THE MORE CONNECTED JURISDICTIONS. 
          THE MORE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE, THE MORE VALUABLE THE DATA BASE WE ARE BUILDING IS. NOT JUST TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. I RECOGNIZE THE VALUE TO THEM. 
          BUT IT'S ALSO VALUE TO ANYBODY WHO CAN COMPROMISE IT. 
          SO THAT MEANS OUR CYBER SECURITY. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY JUST AN IT ISSUE OR JUST A LOCATAL ISSUE. 
          THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. 
          IN ADDITION TO AN I.T. ISSUE AND A LOCAL ISSUE. 
          WE SHOULD BE ASKING, WE HAVE ASKED. 
          WHERE IS THIS INFO STORED. OKAY AMAZON WEB SERVERS. 
          GREAT. WHO HAS TECHNICAL ACCESS TO IT. 
          I STILL DON'T KNOW THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE ANSWERS. 
          WHAT SYSTEMS IS IT CONNECTED TO? WHAT ALL IS BEING INTEGRATED WITH IT? WHAT HAPPENS IF AN INDIVIDUAL USER'S ACCOUNT AT MAYBE NOT CPD MAYBE ONE OF THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE SHARE WITH. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OF THOSE IS COMPROMISED. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF THE VENDOR ITSELF IS COMPROMISED? 
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NO SECURITY SYSTEM IS PERFECT RIGHT. 
          BUT INFORMATION WE DON'T COLLECT CAN'T BE STOLEN. 
          SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER BEFORE VOTING TO RENEW THIS CONTRACT, IS THERE A DEMONSTRATED NEED TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN THIS MASSIVE REPOSITORY OF VEHICLE LOCATION DATA. ONCE WE COLLECT THIS IT'S ON US TO PROTECT IT. THANK YOU. 
          >> ALL RIGHT MY NEXT SPEAKER IS KIM CROSSLY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M KIM CROSSLEC AND I LIVE ON HOMESTEAD WAY IN CARROLLTON TEXAS AND AM CONCERNED SKOUN VOTING ON RENEWING AND EXPANDING THE FLOCK ALPR PROGRAM BECAUSE CARROLLTON DOESN'T HAVE UNLIMITED MONEY. WE DON'T VUN LIMITED OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, INVESTIGATORS, ENGINEERS OR CITY STAFF. 
          EVERY DOLLAR AND EVERY HOUR WE COMMIT TO FLOCK OR SIMILAR SYSTEM IS A DOLLAR THAT WE CANNOT COMMIT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES OUR COMMUNITY MEETS THOSE RESOURCES. LOOK AT OUR STREETS. 
          GAPS OF LINING AND CROSSWALKS ASK INFRASTRUCTURE IN SERIOUS NEED OF ATTENTION. RESIDENT TRAFFIC SAFETY PROBLEMS EVERY DAY. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW SOMEONE RUN A RED LIGHT? THIS IS NOT A THEORETICAL PROBLEM. THREE WEEKS AGO A CHILD WAS HIT BY A CAR WHILE WALKING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          A KID WAS WALKING TO PUBLIC SCHOOL ON A CITY STREET AND THEY WERE HIT BY A CAR. THAT SHOULD MAKE US ALL STOP AND LOOK AT THE STREETS WE USE DAILY. 
          ARE THEY AS SAFE AS THEY SHOULD BE. 
          LOOK AT LIGHTING, CROSSING AND TRAFFIC AND CONDITIONS OF STREET. THERE'S CLEARLY WORK TO DO. 
          WE DESPERATELY NEED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND INVESTIGATORS AND OFFICERS RESPONDING. WE NEED TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE. THOSE ARE COMPETING PRIORITIES FOR THE SAME TAX DOLLARS. SO WHEN THE CITY SPENDS MONEY ON ADDITIONAL FLOCK, WE SHOULD ASK WHAT THAT MONEY COULD ACCOMPLISH SOMEWHERE ELSE. COULD IT HAVE MADE IMPROVED LIGHTING OR MADE DANGEROUS CROSSING SAFER. 
          THAT IS OUR PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY. IT IS CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE A REAL POSITIVE SAFETY NEED GOING UNADDRESSED TODAY. WE SHOULD SPEND OUR LIMITED RESOURCES ON THE LINKS THAT MOST DIRECTLY MAKE CARROLLTON SAFER. BECAUSE EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND HERE IS A DOLLAR WE CANNOT SPEND THERE. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT MY NEXT SPEAKER IS KIRK BOOTH. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M KIRK BOOTH. I LIVE ON WOODSIDE DRIVE. 
          WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF AND THE STAFF THAT'S HERE AND LET THEM KNOW WE ARE NOT ANTI-POLICE WHEN WE COME TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS ON THIS. 
          AND WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE GREAT REDUCTION AND CRIME WHICH YOU'VE LED CHIEF OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND WE APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE LEO THAT PUTS ON A BADGE AND RISKS THEIR LIFE TO SAVE OURS EVERY DAY. WE ARE YOUR FANS. 
          WE'RE NOT YOUR ENEMIES. YOUR PRESENTATION THOUGH DID RAISE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR US. 
          DOES YOUR-- AND I'LL ADDRESS THIS TO COUNCIL AS I'M SUPPOSED TO. WE HAVE NOW THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEIR AUDIT-- THE SAFETY AUDIT THEY DO THAT FLAGS UNUSUAL ACTIVITIES. COVERS THE PARTNERS THAT GET OUR DATA. DOES CARROLLTON GET A FLAG WHEN AN OFFICER HITS THE LICENSE PLATE OF HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND TEN OR 15 TIMES IN TWO WEEKS? HOW DO WE KNOW? AS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT PART OF FLOCK'S DATA BASE. 
          BUT IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH ALMOST, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT GANG MEMBERS ARE FLAGGED. HOW DO YOU FLAG A GANG MEMBER IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL? WE'RE NOT TRACKING PEOPLE. YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE THIS STORY ABOUT A PERSON WHO MAYBE WANDERS AWAY. 
          SILVER ALERT. AND WANDERS AWAY FROM THEIR CAR IN 105°. BUT THE CAMERA CAN FIND WHERE THEY WALKED TO. WE'RE TRACKING PEOPLE. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT WAS ON THE GRAPHIC THAT CAN BE ESTABLISHED BY FLOCK AND CARROLLTON POLICE IS CONFIRMING IT TO US TONIGHT IS A VEHICULAR TRAFFIC PATTERN IS PART OF THE RECORD. 
          YOUR CAR? YOUR CAR? MY CAR IS PART OF THE RECORD. IF YOU ARE NOT A CRIMINAL, WHAT'S IT MATTER? DOESN'T TODAY. 
          BUT SOMEBODY MAY DECIDE THAT A CERTAIN ASSOCIATION OF PEOPLE WITH OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO FLOCK CAMERAS. 
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MIGHT BE PEOPLE TO BE LOOKED AT. 
          AND NOW MY VEHICULAR PATTERN BECOMES KNOWN. 
          MY ASSOCIATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S JUST A DANGEROUS PATH TO GO DOWN TO. 
          THE BURDEN SHOULD NOT BE ON RESIDENTS TO PROVE WE NEED PRIVACY. THE BURDEN'S ON THE GOVERNMENT TO JUSTIFY SURVEILLANCE. I BELIEVE OUR CITY COUNCIL AND CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF KEEPING RESIDENTS SAFE WITHOUT BUILDING A PERMANENT RECORD OF WHERE WE GO. A RECORD IN A PRIVATELY-OWNED DATA BASE THAT CONTRACT REALLY NOT SO IS BEYOND CITY 
          OVERSIGHT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> CONTRACTS--. >> YEAH. 
          YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. I'M SURE YOUR OTHER POINTS WILL 
          BE RAISED. >> IF YOU DON'T RENEW THIS 
          TONIGHT WE WILL NOT GO AWAY. >> YOUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMARIYAH-- AR--. AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> I LIVE ON STANDARDS DRIVE. I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO REMOVE ITEM 13 FROM TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AND VOTE AGAINST THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO THE IP CAMERAS AND SUPPORTER SOFTWARE SERVICES FROM FLOCK SAFETY. 
          WHAT DOES HOME MEAN TO YOU? TO ME, HOME MEANS CARROLLTON. 
          IT MEANS DRIVING MY THREE DAUGHTERS TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY AND NOT BEING CONCERNED THAT THAT DRIVE IS A DATA POINT COLLECTED BAY COMPANY. STORED IN A DATA BASE AND SHARED WITHOUT MY FAMILY'S CONSENT. 
          OR ANY WAY FOR US TO EVEN KNOW IF OR HOW THAT DATA WAS USED. 
          DOES HOME MEAN COMMITTING UP TO $1,194,775 OVER THREE YEARS TO CONSOLIDATE FOR THREE YEARS. WITH NO INDEPENDENT AUDIT REQUIRED. BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT? DOES HOME MEAN A PLACE OF SURVEILLANCE. 
          AND PERSONAL COLLECTION WITHOUT CONSENT. 
          AS FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES WANT TO CALL HOME. 
          OR IS IT AN AGGREGATE OF PERSONAL DATA COLLECTED FOR OVER $1 MILLION WITHOUT RELIABLE OVERSIGHT. 
          SO WHAT DOES HOME MEAN TO YOU? TO ME, HOME MEANS TRUST. 
          HOME MEANS COMMUNITY. HOME MEANS CARROLLTON. 
          SO SO I ASKED VOTE NO. FURTHER CONTRACTS CONSIDERED. 
          THE CARROLLTON COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE A VOICE IN THAT DECISION. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS-- JONATHAN OWEN? IN YOUR NAME AND CITY FOR THE RECORD. 
          YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS JONATHAN BAME FOR THE RECORD. 
          AND I WOULD FIRST WANT TO APOLOGIZE IF MY SPEECH IS A BIT MORE UNSTRUCTURED THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE. 
          I DID NOT ACTUALLY REALIZE I'D BE GETTING THIS CIVICALLY INVOLVED TONIGHT UNTIL ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE I WALKED IN THE DOOR THERE. BUT-- I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR ALL OF THE REASSURANCES. THAT THE POLICE HAVE GIVEN TONIGHT OR THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY FLOCK THE COMPANY ITSELF. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD ALL KEEP IN MIND. 
          THAT COMPANIES LIKE FLOCK AND NOT SOLELY COMPANIES LIKE FLOCK BUT COMPANIES LIKE AXON AND ALL OF F THESE GIVEN SECURITY CONTRACTORS AND SUCH LIKE THAT. THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSE WAS NOT TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. 
          THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE IS TO MAKE MONEY. 
          AND THEY DO THAT BY HARVESTIC OUR DATA. 
          NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT IT THERE IS NO SET OF CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS OR FLAGS OR A TYPICAL USE THAT ARE GOING TO COMPLETELY VOUCHSAFE OR-- I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE 
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VERBIAGE. THAT ARE NOT GOING TO ENSURE THAT A COMPANY LIKE THIS WITH ACCESS TO A RESOURCE THIS VALUABLE. IT IS A RESOURCE. 
          WE ARE THE RESOURCE. OUR DATA IS THE RESOURCE THAT IS-- THAT IT BUILDS ITS COMPANY. 
          THAT THIS COMPANY BUILDS ITSELF ON. 
          THAT TO SUSTAIN ITSELF. ONCE THEY HAVE THIS DATA. 
          I STUDIED COMPUTER SCIENCE. I COULD TELL YOU. 
          APPAR APPARENTLY. 
          A CLOUD SECURITY. AS OPPOSED TO RESTORING THE DATA ON SITE IS NOWHERE NEAR A SATISFACTORY ANSWER TO COMPLETELY PROVIDE ANY SORT OF SENSE OF SECURITY TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY ARE HEARING. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE COULD KEEP THAT IN MIND. THESE CONTRACTORS ARE NOT HERE. 
          FOR OUR BENEFITS. THEY ARE HERE FOR THEIR OWN BENEFITS. LIKE MOST OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS DO LIKE THIS THEY ADHERE TO EXTRACT RESOURCES AND MONEY AND THAT OF ALL OF US FIRST AND FOREMOST. 
          TO PROVIDE THE DATA IS A DISTANCE SECOND PLACE IF IT IS A PRIORITY AT ALL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMEMBER THAT EVERYONE HERE IN THIS AUDIENCE IS GOING TO REMEMBER AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING. IF I'M GETTING CIVICALLY INVOLVED LIKE THIS. SUDDENLY A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WILL AS WELL. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK BEAUNE. I KNOW I PRONOUNCED THAT WRONG BUT I APOLOGIZE. YOU CAN FIX IT WHEN YOU GET TO 
          THE PODIUM. >> MY NAME IS MARK BAME AND I'VE LIVED IN CARROLLTON MORE THAN 25 YEARS. 
          I'M ASKING YOU TO PULL THIS ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND EITHER VOTE NO OR POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY HAS BUILT. 
          TONIGHT YOU'RE CONSIDERING A THREE-YEAR FLOCK CONTRACT COVERING 82 CAMERAS AND RELATED SOFTWARE ABOUT $1.2 MILLION YET IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WHERE IT CAN BE APPROVED WITHOUT SEPARATE DELIBERATION UNLESS ONE OF YOU PULLS IT. 
          SO PLEASE ONE OF YOU PULL IT. CITY STAFF SAYS FOUR SEPARATE FLOCK CONTRACTS. AND THIS PROPOSAL ROLLS MOST OF THEM INTO ONE AGREEMENT. THE CITY'S DRONE AS FIRST RESP RESPONDER. 
          PROGRAM REMAINS A SEPARATE ISSUE. 
          BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE ISN'T JUST A NUMBER OF CAMERAS. 
          IT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY COLLECT AND THE CITY'S OWN RECORDS SHOWED THAT CARROLLTON HAS MADE HIS FLOCK CAMERA DATA AVAILABLE TO 491 OUTSIDE SUMMER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          491. THIS ISN'T JUST A LOCAL POLICE CAMERA SYSTEM. INFORMATION ABOUT VEHICLES TRAVELLING THROUGH CARROLLTON INCLUDING MOVEMENTS OF CARROLLTON RESIDENTS AND BE SEARCHED AND USED FAR BEYOND CARROLLTON CITY LIMITS. AND MOST RESIDENTS HAVE NO IDEA HOW LARGE THIS SYSTEM IS. WHAT IT CAN DO. 
          HOW LONG THE INFORMATION IS KEPT OR WHO CAN SEARCH IT. 
          I HAVE PENDING COMPLAINTS. OVER THE CITY'S HANDLING OF PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY. 
          IN TWO OF THOSE MATTERS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS REQUIRED THE CITY TO FORMALLY EXPLAIN ITS RESPONSE. 
          OR LACK THEREOF. THERE IS ALSO ACCOUNTABILITY PROBLEMS. CITY DID COUNT ALERTS BUT WHEN I ASKED FOR RECORDS SHOWING REAL WORLD RESULTS LIKE HOW MANY STOLEN VEHICLES WERE RECO RECOVERED. THE RECORDS PRODUCE DIDN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AT ALL. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY YOU BELIEVE IN LIMITED GOVERNMENT, I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS A LIMITED GOVERNMENT ABOUT BUILDING A SYSTEM THAT RECORDS THE MOVEMENTS OF ORDINARY PEOPLE AND MAKES THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO HUNDREDS OF OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. PLEASE PULL ITEM 13 FROM CONSENT. BEFORE COMMITTING CARROLLTON TO ANOTHER THREE YEARS. TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THE SYSTEM DOES. WHO CAN USE THE INFORMATION. 
          WHAT SAFEGUARDS EXIST AND WHAT RESULTS IT HAS ACTUALLY PRODUCED. THEN LET THE PUBLIC HAVE THE DEBATE THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE THIS SURVEILLANCE NETWORK BECAME THIS LARGE. 
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          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NICK BROWN. 
          AND JUST PROVIDE MR. BROWN YOUR NAME. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. HONOURABLE MAYOR AND STEAMED COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS NICHOLAS BROWN. 
          CURRENT HOMEOWNER AT 2304-- PLACE IN PLACE SEVEN HERE IN CARROLLTON. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 16 YEARS. 
          I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE USE OF FLOCK AS BOTH A PRODUCT AND A SERVICE. TO BEGIN I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HERE AND ACROSS THE NATION AND I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST THOSE ABSOLUTES AND LOGICAL FALL SAES AS THOSE COULD SHUTDOWN CONVERSATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT SHOULD BE HAD ACROSS THE NATION. 
          THAT BEING SAID WHAT I WILL NOT DO TONIGHT IS BE STANDING UP HERE AND QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF THE FINE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          MY SPOUSE AND I ARE BOTH STANDING MEMBERS OF THE CARROLLTON POLICE ALUMNI ASSOCIATION AND HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AS OFTEN AS WE CAN. 
          WE HAVE BECOME ACQUAINTED WITH POLICY, PROCEDURE AND MANY OF THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE OF THE KRAIRLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WHETHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE FALLEN SHORT AND HAVE EMPLOYED INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE ABUSED THEIR POSITION THE OFFICERS STAND TALL ABOVE THE REST AND HAVE EARN MID TRUST AND CONFIDENCE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OTHER CITIZENS TO ATTEND CITIZENS OF POLICE ACADEMY TO LEARN MORE AND TO BUILD THEIR RELATIONSHIP AS WE HAVE. 
          WHAT I ALSO WILL BE DOING TONIGHT IS ADDRESSING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT CONCERNS AROUND USE OF ALPRS. 
          AS I AM NEITHER A CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR OR LEGISLATURE SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO TAKE IT UP IN THE FUTURE. 
          WHAT I AM IS A PROFESSIONAL 26 YEARS. 
          SUBSIDIARY RECOGNIZE CERTIFICATIONS E ELECTRONICS REPAIR. AND POINTS NETWORKING. 
          CYBER SECURITY AND AI. CAME TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AS CITIZENS PURELY BASED ON FACT. SECURITY FLOCK BOTH A PRODUCT AND A SERVICE. BUT WITH A CURRENT COPY AND UNRESOLVED SECURITIES. NATIONAL VULNERABILITY DATA B BASE. 
          A FEDERAL DATA BASE. FROM LOW TO CRITICAL ACROSS THEIR ALPR. GSDS. 
          A FEW'SLY OBTAIN TOOLS TO FLOCK DEVICES THEMSELVES. 
          AND THE SERVICES UNALTERED AS THEY SEE FIT ALL WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE AS THE CONSUMER DEVICES AND THE SERVICE. 
          FLOCK HAS CHOSEN NOT TO ADDRESS MANY OF THESE VULNERABILITIES. 
          REPROGRAMMABLE THAT WE COULD UPDATE AND MAKE SURE VULNERABILITIES ARE ADDRESSED. THEY HAVE STATED DECISIVELY THEY WILL NOT BE USING THOSE PRODUCTS TO REMAIN VULNERABLE. 
          LIKE CODE AND CLEAR TEXT. HARD CODED PASSWARDS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE INSTANCES WHERE THEY HAVE LEFT FLOCK SOFTWARE DEVELOPER TOOLS. TO THE WEB ADDRESS WHERE THEY ARE BEING HOSTED ON THE INTERNET. 
          WORLDWIDE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALL RIGHT. SOREY. 
          AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          >> MY NAME IS--. COUNCIL ON MARGE LANE IN KRAIRLTON, TEXAS. SPEAKING AGAINST-- DANGEROUS WHEN IT ENDS UP IN THE WRONG HANDS. 
          DOCUMENTED AT LEAST 27 CASES BECAUSE A CAMERA SIMPLY A NUMBER ON A PLATE. WE'RE PAYING FOR THE SYSTEM OURSELVES YET IT'S RECORD SHOWS THAT IT HURTS US. 
          THE PEOPLE IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT. 
          ALONG WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID HERE, I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE JUST HERE FOR OUR MONEY AND I DO NOT WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TOTHEM. PLEASE VOTE NO ON CONTINUING THIS CONTRACT. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE-- DUMONT. MI MICAH? AND JUST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS 
          FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS MICAH DUMONT I'M A RESIDENT AND HOME OWNER IN KRAIRLTON. 
          I WORK AS A CYBER SECURITY EXPERT FOR TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA. THESE SYSTEMS DO FAR MORE THAN READ LICENSE PLATES. EVERY VEHICLE THAT PASSES GENERATES A RECORD STORED BY A PRIVATE COMPANY. 
          SEARCHABLE AT ANY TIME AND ACCESSIBLE WITHOUT A WARRANT. 
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THERE IS NO JUDGE AND NO PROBABLE CAUSE. 
          NO INDIVIDUALIZED SUSPICION REQUIRED. 
          AND PRACTICE MANY SEARCHS ARE JUSTIFIED WITH ONLY VAGUE OR MEANINGLESS JUSTIFICATIONS. SUCH AS INVESTIGATION OR SUSPECT. SOME OF THE AUDITS THAT I'VE SEEN ONLY TYPED IN ASDF WHICH IS JUST GARBAGE FROM A KEYBOARD. AS A CYBER SECURITY PROFESSIONAL I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DOCUMENTED SECURITY ADVOCATORS. PUBLIC ON THE INTERNET. 
          ANYONE WITH A LINK COULD VIEW LIVE FEEDS. 
          DOWNLOAD ARCHIVES. SEARCH DATA AND MODIFY SETTINGS AND DELETE RECORDS. WHEN ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES AND BLAMED LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR MISCONFIGURING THEIR PORTALS. 
          THAT MEAN IFS ANY OF THE CARROLLTON SYSTEMS HAD SIMILAR VULNERABILITIES THIS WOULD BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE BREACHES. ALSO REGARDING THE DELETION OF DATA, TLEEGS OF DATA ON AN EXTERNAL SYSTEM CANNOT BE VERIFIED OR EVEN TRUSTED FOR ANY NON-CITY CONTROLLED STORAGE MEDIUM. SIMPLY SEARCHING FOR DATA DOES NOT CONFIRM IT'S BEEN DELETED BY FLOCK. 
          IT JUST MEANS THAT IT'S NOT VISIBLE. 
          THIS IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS A SOFT DELETE. 
          THERE'S NO WAY OF CLAIMING EFFECTIVELY THAT SOMETHING THAT'S HOSTED IN THE CLOUD CAN BE CITY OWNED. 
          THAT'S JUST NOT A THING. THE RISKS ALSO GO BEYOND TECHNICAL PROBLEMS. THERE ARE NOW DOZENS OF CASES OF OFFICERS USING FLOCK TO STALK EX-PARTNERS. 
          ONE GEORGIA OFFICER TRACKED HIS FELLOW OFFICERS X AND ANOTHER OFFICER'S VEHICLE DOZENS OF TIMES. 
          A KENTUCKY OFFICER CONDUCTED MORE THAN 2,000 SEARCHES ON VEHICLES BELONGING TO HIS CHILD'S MOTHER. 
          AS A HOME OWNER AND TAX PAYER I'M BEING ASKED TO FUND A SYSTEM THAT COLLECTS WARRANTLESS RECORDS OF MY MOVEMENTS. STORES THEM WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT HAS A HISTORY OF SECURITY LAPSES. 
          PRODUCES FALSE POSITIVES AND HAS BEEN USED FOR STALKING. 
          IN EFFECT I'M PAYING TO HAVE MY FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS VIOLATED. THE SUPREME COURT VIEW THE UNITED STATES FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTS PEOPLE AND NOT PLACES. 
          AND THAT WARRANTS SURVEILLANCE INVADING INVASION OF PRIVACY IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. PERMANENT ALPR NETWORKS DO EXACTLY THAT. I URGE YOU TO PULL AND VOTE NO ON ITEM 13. PAUSE THE PROGRAM AND HOLD A FULL PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. 
          >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN ETZEL. 
          CITY COUNCIL JOHNNY-- CARROLLTON CITIZEN. 
          I SAT HERE AND LISTENED TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TELL US ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE FLOCK PROGRAM WAS DOING. REMIND YOU WHAT QUESTION COUNCILMAN FLEMING ASKED. DO THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE RISK? I HEARD OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PROMOTE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS BEING A MAJOR PART OF THE JOB THAT THEY DO. I ASKED YOU. 
          WHY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR SOMETHING. 
          DRIVE WITH A WEDGE BETWEEN CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE HEARD A GOOD BIT ABOUT CYBER SECURITY. 
          AND THE PROTECTION THAT THE CITY HAS IN PLACE. 
          WE ALSO HEARD THE DATA IN THE CLOUD WHICH MEANS PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF KRAIRLTON HAS ACCESS. 
          WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A NEFARIOUS ACTOR GETS A HOLD OF THAT DATA. 
          SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN. THEY'VE GOT GREAT CERTIFICATIONS. I'LL REMIND YOU IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY THE CITY OF CARROLLTON WAS A VICTIM OF CYBER ATTACKS ITSELF. AND THAT HAPPENED TO THE FLOCK SYSTEMS. EQUIFAX CREDIT REPORTING BUREAU. DO THEY HAVE GREAT SECURITY SYSTEMS. I SUSPECT THEY DO BUT THEY WERE COMPROMISED. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE EQUIFAX SITUATION IS HOW LONG DO YOU GO BEFORE THEY REPORTED AND TOLD PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED THAT THEIR DATA WAS COMPROMISED. WHAT CONTROLS DOES FLOCK HAVE TO REPORT ANY SORT OF COMPROMISE TO THE CITY. 
          HOW QUICKLY TO LET CITIZENS KNOW IF THEIR DATA IS COMPROMISED AS A RESULT OF THAT. 
          I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO AGAINST ITEM 13. 
          THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS KENNETH BIGGENS. AND IF YOU WILL JUST GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AND CITY RESIDENTS FOR THE RECORD. 
          >> HI NAME IS KENNETH-- I'M A PLANER RESIDENT AND PASSES THROUGH. I ALSO OWN PROPERTY IN CARROLLTON. BEFORE COMMITTING APPROXIMATELY 
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$1.2 MILLION TO THE SYSTEM. COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL LANDSCAPE SURROUNDING ALPRS IS DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW. EARLIER THIS YEAR THE FIFTH SURROGATE HELD UNITED STATES SUCH AS PORTER THAT THE USE OF ALPR DATA IN THAT CASE DID NOT CONSTITUTE A FOURTH AMENDMENT SEARCH. A PETITION ASKING THE SUPREME COURT TO REVIEW THAT DECISION IS PENDING RIGHT NOW. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE VERY FIRST QUESTION OUT OF THAT PETITION. WHETHER OFFICERS ACCESS OF AN AUTOMATED DATA BASE WHICH INDISCRIMINATELY COLLECTS AND STORES. PERSONALLY IDENTIFYING INFORMATION AND LOCATION HISTORY AND ALLOWS FOR THE ACCESS RETROSPECTIVELY CONSTITUTES A SEARCH OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. I WILL TURN THIS IN FOR YOU. 
          AS THE CITY CONSIDERED HOW THAT COULD AFFECT THIS AGREEMENT? WHAT LIABILITIES COULD CARROLLTON INCUR? AND WAS COUNCIL ADVISED OF THIS POSITION BY THE CITY ATTORNEY? I DIDN'T SEE THAT PRESENTED ANYWHERE. 
          SINCE PORTER THE SUPREME COURT DECIDED CHATRIE HOLDING THAT GOVERNMENT ACCESS TO THE LOCATION DATA BASE AT ISSUE CONSTITUTED A FOURTH AMENDMENT SEARCH. 
          THE COURT EMPHASIZED THAT EVEN SHORT TERM LOCATION INFORMATION CAN REVEAL SENSITIVE INFORMATION OTHERWISE PROTECTED UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. AS A DATA SCIENTIST, I CAN TELL YOU THE SURVEILLANCE CAPABILITY IS IN THE DATA BASE. 
          IN THE AGGREGATION AND SEARCHABILITY OF THAT INFORMATION. USING THE CAMERAS OUTSIDE-- BAPTIST SEARCH. THIS SYSTEM CAN IDENTIFY VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PEOPLE ATTENDING A PARTICULAR CHURCH. THAT EXAMPLE IS INCLUDED IN THE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE YOU. IN THAT EXAMPLE, I CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE HOW THIS CAN BE ACHIEVED. 
          SO I ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHAT THE LIMITING PRINCIPLES ARE HERE. AT WHAT POINT DOES OBSERVING PEOPLE AND PUBLIC BECOME CONSTRUCTING SEARCHABLE HISTORY OF THEIR LIVES. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS LAURIE FOSTER. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE 
          RECORD? >> YEP. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. 
          YOU HEARD ME SPEAK BEFORE. I SENT YOU GUYS MY CONCERNS EARLIER IN THAN E-MAIL. AND DUE TO THE INFORMATION PRESENTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE I HAVE PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY MODIFIED WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU. 
          I HAVE LIVED IN CARROLLTON SINCE '87. 
          I HAVE BEEN IN SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR MANY YEARS. MORE THAN 40 YEARS. 
          I HAVE DETAILED UNDERSTANDING OF DATA MANAGEMENT AND PRIVACY ISSUES. THIS IS MY THIRD TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT MY OPPOSITION TO THE FLOCK PROGRAM. 
          IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR POLICE OFFICERS. 
          I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT IS IN THE CLOUD. TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST TIME I ACTUALLY HEARD FROM OUR CIO THAT FLOCK STORES THEIR DATA AT AMAZON WEB SERVICES. AMAZON WEB SERVICES HAS HAD SOME PROBLEMS IN THE PAST. WE ALL KNOW THAT. 
          IF WE WERE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE MANAGED THE DATA HERE LOCALLY, THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN THE FACT OUR DATA IS BEING PRESENTED INTO A CLOUD OPERATION. 
          SO BASICALLY WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED LOCALLY BY THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND THE OTHER LICENSE PLATE READERS IS BEING COLLECTED BY EQUIPMENT OWNED BY A THIRD PARTY COMPANY SHARED AND AGGREGATED OVER LARGE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS. NOT STORED HERE LOCALLY. 
          NOT LIKE WE CAN REALLY CONTROL THIS. 
          THE DATA IS BEING COLLECTED BY FLOCK. 
          WE HAVE REALLY NO ASSURANCE THAT FLOCK IS ADEQUATELY PROTECTING OUR DATA. WE HEARD THEIR CERTIFICATIONS BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          WE PASSED SOME CERTIFICATION TESTS. 
          ABUSE OF ALL THIS DATA HAS BEEN CLEARLY DOCUMENTED AND REPORTED IN MANY STATES. NOT IN CARROLLTON. 
          AND THIS IS NOT A DIRECTED THING AT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE RECOGNIZED THESE ISSUES AND ARE SLOWING THEIR ADOPTIONS. PAUSING EXISTING CONTRACTS. 
          WILL CAUTION YOU KRAIRLTON SEEMS TO BE UNAWARE OF THE POTENTIAL ABUSES AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED YA'LL WERE HELD FOR RANSOM A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          AND AT THAT TIME I DON'T THINK YOUR I.T. GUY IS THE SAME GUY THAT YOU HAVE NOW BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 
          THE DATA THAT'S MAINTAINED IN THE CLOUD. 
          THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DONE A GREAT JOB OVER YEARS AND YEARS. 
          NOBODY IS ACCUSING THEM OF ABUSING ANY DATA. 
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BUT THIS DATA COLLECTED IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE AGGREGATED AND POTENTIALLY ABUSED BY OTHER COMMUNITIES WHICH IS THE CONCERN. MY CONCERN. 
          THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. AND I WANT TO JUST SAY OF COURSE I'M NOT AGAINST THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          I'M A TECHNOLOGY PERSON. I AM AGAINST THE AGGREGATION AND DISSEMINATION OF THIS DATA WITHIN THE FLOCK SYSTEM BY ACTORS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE WITHOUT APPROPRIATE PRIVACY PROTECTIONS. WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS POLICIES. 
          LAW IS NOT YET CALLED UP TO THIS TECHNOLOGY AND THAT'S WHAT 
          WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. >> THANK YOU. 
          MY NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRISTIAN HERNANDEZ. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN HERNANDEZ I LIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET AND HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THAT COUNCIL VOTE NO. I APPRECIATE THE MOVE THAT SO THAT IT CAN BE GIVEN ITS DUE DILIGENCE. 
          GIVEN CONCERNS BY RESIDENTS OF CARROLLTON. 
          IN-- COUNTIES ACROSS THE NATION. 
          ALL SEEKING TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC SPHERE FROM PRIVATE ENTERPRISE. THE CARROLLTON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS STATED ITS MISSION IS TO PROACTIVELY PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. BEING PROACTIVE REQUIRES TAKING THE FIRST SET. IN THIS CASE THAT MEANS NOT RENEWING THE CONTRACT AND NOT COMMITTING TO A MISTAKE JUST BECAUSE WE SPENT A LONG TIME MAKING IT. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND INDIVIDUAL PRIVACY HAVE TO BE COMPETING INTERESTS AND IN FACT PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIRES PUBLIC BUY IN AND PUBLIC TRUST. IT ERODES BOTH WHEN THERE'S DOCUMENTED PROOF OF THESE CAMERAS BEING USED TO INFRINGE ON BASIC EXPECTATIONS OF PRIVACY. 
          THE PROLIFERATION OF THESE CAMERAS ENABLES A NETWORK OF MASS SURVEILLANCE. AND SAFETY REQUIRES MUTUAL COOPERATION. WHILE THIS TOOL IS BEING TOUTED AS INDISPENSE TO BELIEVE SOLVING CRIMES, I MUST IMPLORE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS TOOL MIGHT BE A VECTOR FOR ENABLING IT. THE POTENTIAL ABUSE FOR THIS TECH IS NOT THEORETICAL BUT SUBSTANTIATED. 
          WE NEED CONSISTENT BASELINE STANDARDS FOR USE OF THIS AND ALL MASS TECHNOLOGY REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE LIVE. 
          WHICH AGENCY OPERATES THE SYSTEM OR WHICH BUSINESS OWNS IT. THERE'S BEEN SO LITTLE PROVIDED IN HOW THESE SYSTEMS ARE GOVERNED. 
          HOW INFORMATION IS ACCESSED OR RETAINED AND WHAT PROTECTIONS EXIST TO PREVENT MISUSE. AND THE LITTLE THAT WE DO KNOW IS ONLY PROVIDED AT OUR BEHEST. FLOCK INVERTS THE NATURE OF HOW WE ARE KEPT SAFE. EASY TO SAY LOOK AT ALL THIS CRIME WE FOUND WHEN EVERYONE WATCHING IS CRIMINAL. 
          WE SHOULD TAKE THIS DOWN IN MANVILLE WHO JUST LAST WEEK UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO END THEIR FLOCK CONTRACT INCLUDING SOME RESPONSIBLE FOR ADOPTING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          GOOD LEADERSHIP MEANS ALSO RECOGNIZING WHEN NEW INFORMATION SHOULD LEAD TO A DIFFERENT DECISION AND THAT REALIZATION KNOWS THAT INDIVIDUAL GOOD INTENT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL OR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN COUNTERACT THE DANGERS OF THE ECOSYSTEM THAT FLOCK IS BUILDING. 
          THERE ARE NO ASSURANCES. NO GUARDRAILS THAT YA'LL CAN GENERATE TO I SURE US OF THE INTENTIONS OR ACCESS BEHIND THESE CREEPY CAMERAS. AND IN FACT THE FLOCK CONTRACT CURRENTLY IN EFFECT STATES VERBATIM FLOCK CAN USE ONE OR MORE THIRD PARTIES TO DELIVER SERVICES SUCH AS USING THE THIRD PARTY TO HOST THE WEB INTERFACE FOR CLOUD STORAGE. 
          THESE CAMERAS ARE A LIABILITY. ONE ENTIRELY MORE COSTLY THAN $400,000. AND WE DESERVE BETTER. 
          I IMPLORE THE DOWN RECOMMIT TO A CITY THAT IS SAFE AND WELCOMING BY ENDING THESE CONTRACTS. 
          THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS DOM KAIZING? NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD 
          AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS DON KLESING. 
          I'M A TEN-YEAR HOMEOWNER OF CARROLLTON. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING INVASION OF PRIVACY OR SURVE SURVEILLANCE. 
          IF I'M IN YOUR BEDROOM AT 2 A.M., I'M INVADING YOUR PRIVACY. IF I'M AT YOUR DINNER TABLE WITH YOUR FAMILY, I'M INVADING YOUR PRIVACY. 
          IF I AM WATCHING YOU GET INTO YOUR VEHICLE IN WAL-MART AND I'M GLANCING AT YOUR LICENSE PLATE, I HAVE NOT INVADED YOUR PRIVACY. BUT LIKE INVASION OF PRIVACY TO BE COMPARED WITH THOSE OF US THAT HAVE APPLE PHONES. 
          I PRESUME THAT MOST OF US HERE HAVE APPLES. 
          I HAVE ONE THAT'S A FEW YEARS OLD BUT I UPDATE MY SOFTWARE. 
          IF YOU CARRY YOUR APPLE PHONE INTO YOUR BEDROOM, YOUR BEING SURVEILLED AND RECORDED BY APPLE. 
          IF YOU HAVE IT AT YOUR KITCHEN TABLE, YOU ARE BEING RECORDED BY APPLE. IF YOU HAVE YOUR LOCATION SERVICES ON, YOUR EVERY MOVE OF YOUR PHONE IS BEING RECORDED AND PERHAPS SOLD BY APPLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ACCURACY 
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OF THEIR LOCATION DATA ALLOWS THEM TO KNOW WHAT ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE, YOUR PHONE IS LOCATED IN. 
          SOW THINK ALL OF THOSE OF YOU WHO OBJECT TO THE SURVEILLANCE OF FLOCK SHOULD COMPARE THAT SURVEILLANCE TO WHAT YOU ARE PROBABLY VOLUNTARILY ALLOWING AP TOLL SURVEIL. 
          THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT CARD DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. BUT AN OPPOSITION AUTUMN-- FROM CARROLLTON. RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ANNA MALEK IS MY NEXT SPEAKER. >> YES MY NAME IS ANNA-- AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CARROLLTON FOR TEN YEARS. 
          AND I LIVE ON SUGAR BUSH DRIVE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO RECO RECONSIDER-- NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS TO FLOCK CAMERAS. THAT IS ALMOST 40 $0,000 EVERY YEAR AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS VERY SIMPLE. 
          WHAT ELSE COULD CARROLLTON DO WITH THAT MONEY? WE HAVE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT. 
          NEIGHBOURHOODS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM BETTER LIGHTING. 
          PARKS AND TRAILS THAT NEED INVESTMENT, PEDESTRIAN AREAS THAT COULD BE MADE SAFER. THAT MANY COULD ALSO GO DIRECTLY TOWARD PUBLIC SAFETY. OFFICERS INVESTIGATORS, TRAINING, COMMUNITY POLICING AND RESOURCES THAT PORTRAYED PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS. AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO USE CAMERAS TO SOLVE CRIMES WITHOUT CONTINUOUSLY COLLECTING VEHICLE LOCATION DATA. CARROLLTON PREVIOUSLY MAINTAINED A VOLUNTARY REGISTRY OF HUNDREDS OF PRIVILY-OWNED SECURITY CAMERAS. WHEN A CRIME OCCURRED, POLICE COULD IDENTIFY NEARBY CAMERAS THAT REQUEST FOOTAGE FROM PARTICIPATING RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES. 
          CARROLLTON POLICE HAS SAID THAT SYSTEM HELPED THEM SOLVE SERIOUS CRIMES IN THE PAST. AND WHY NOT EXPAND A VOLUNTARY VENDOR NEUTRAL CAMERA REGISTRY LIKE THAT. 
          AND WE SHOULD ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL. JUST WEEKS AGO CORONER GREG-- REGARDED TEXAS STATE AGENCIES TO STOP SPENDING MONEY ON ADDITIONAL FLOCK CAMERAS AMID GROWING SCRUTINY OF THESE SYSTEMS. IF TEXAS IS RECONSIDERING FURTHER INVESTMENT IN FLOCK CARROLLTON SHOULD BE WILLING TO DO THE SAME. AND THIS IS PLEASE NOT BEEN ABOUT AGAINST PUBLIC SAFETY. IT IS ABOUT ASKING WHETHER THIS IS THE BEST USE OF $1.2 MILLION. 
          EVERY DOLLAR SPENT HERE IS A DOLLAR WE CANNOT SPEND SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND QUICKLY I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO CAMERAS PLACED IN NEIGHBOURHOODS AND I WOULD LIKE TO REFUTE THAT. 
          WE HAVE SEEN THOSE OURSELVES IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD. 
          PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS CONTRACT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MY NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES MCKOL CE CENTER. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> HI I'M JAMES MCKOL CENTER. I LIVE AT 614-- DRIVE. 
          I HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT. WHEN I HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT CAN 
          YOU HOLD UP A ONE? >> I'LL DO THAT. 
          >> I APPRECIATE IT. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET THROUGH THIS. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I'M ACTUALLY NOT SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST THIS MEASURE. BUT I AM ASKING YOU TO TABLE THIS DECISION. BY ADOPTING FLOCK CAMERAS, YOU ARE NOT SIMPLY PURCHASING A TOOL. 
          THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH CITIZENS EXERCISE THE FREED NM PUBLIC SPACES. FREEDOM IS NOT NEARLY THE ABSENCE OF INTERFERENCE. THE PUBLIC WORLD YOU AND I INHABIT WITH EACH OTHER. HISTORICALLY THERE HAS BEEN A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INVISIBLE AND BEING TRACKED. 
          A PERSON COULD MOVE TO THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          ATTEND MEETINGS. VISIT PLACES OF WORSHIP. 
          ASSOCIATE WITH OTHERS AND GO ABOUT DAILY LIFE WITHOUT CREATING A PERMANENT SEARCHABLE RECORD OF THEIR MOVEMENTS. 
          SYSTEMS LIKE FLOCK CHANGE THAT DISTINCTION. 
          AND THEY MOVE US TOWARD A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT FREEDOM IN PUBLIC SPACE ENTAILS. 
          PERHAPS THAT CHANGE IS JUSTIFIED. 
          NOT THEOR SAY IT MIGHT NOT BE. BUT IF IT IS I THINK MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL OWED THE PUBLIC AND AN EXPLANATION THAT MATCHES THE SIGNIFICANT THAT MEASURES THE DECISIONS. 
          SO FAR I HAVE HEARD ARGUMENTS ABOUT EFFECTIVENESS. 
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SAFEGUARDS AND DATA RETENTION. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION HOW WILL THIS SYSTEM BE MANAGED? THEY DO NOT ANSWER THE MORE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. WHY IS THIS CHANGE IN PUBLIC LIFE JUSTIFIED IN THE FIRST PLACE? AS AN EDUCATOR, I TELL MY STUDENTS ONE THING CONSTANTLY. 
          SHOW ME YOUR WORK. SHOW ME YOUR WORK. 
          I DO NOT ASK THAT BECAUSE I CARE ONLY ABOUT THE ANSWER BUT I WANT TO SEE REASONING BEHIND IT. 
          TONIGHT I AM ASKING THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO DO THE SAME. 
          SHOW US WHAT CONCEPTION OF FREEDOM IS INFORMING YOUR DECISION HERE TONIGHT. SHOW US WHAT ALTERNATIVES YOU CONSIDERED. SHOW US WHY YOU BELIEVE THIS CHANGE IS JUSTIFIED. AND SHOW US IN WRITING. 
          A COUPLE OF SENTENCES AT A COUNCIL MEETING IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CRIME 
          REDUCTION. >> ONE MINUTE. 
          >> OH I GOT ONE MINUTE. OH PERFECT. 
          SORRY. >> I DID WHAT YOU ASKED. 
          >> A FEW TALKING POINTS ABOUT CRIME REDUCTION ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. A DECISION THAT CHANGES THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH WE LIVE AS FREE PEOPLE DESERVES A SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC JUSTIFICATION. 
          DEMOCRATIC ACCOUNTABILITY MEANS MORE THAN CASTING VOTES. 
          IT MEANS GIVING AN ACCOUNT OF THE JUDGMENTS YOU MAKE ON OUR BEHALF. IF THE COUNCIL BELIEVES FLOCK IS JUSTIFIED, TABLE THE DECISION. 
          PREPARE A WRITTEN JUSTIFICATION FOR YOUR VOTE. 
          AND LET THE PUBLIC EVALUATE THAT JUSTIFICATION. 
          BECAUSE DEMOCRATIC ACCOUNTABILITY REQUIRES IT AND FAILING TO DO SO FAILS TO RESPECT THE PRINCIPLE OF ACCOUNTABLE SELF-GOVERNMENT ON WHICH THIS COUNTRY RESTS. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          MY NEXT SPEAKER IS CATSIYA ME MENDEZ? NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> IT SAYS DO NOT TOUCH. CAN I BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE? 
          >> YES, PLEASE. MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. HELLO MY NAME IS CATSIYA AND I LIVE IN CARROLLTON ON BARTON ROAD. 
          I HAVE LIVED IN CARROLLTON, TEXAS FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AND I GREW UP HERE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WHO HAS ACCESS TO FLOCK SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEDUCE WHETHER I STOP FOR COFFEE ON MY WAY TO MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR IF I WAS RUNNING LATE TO WORK ONE DAY. I THINK CARROLLTON'S PRIORITY SHOULD BE FUNDING REMAINING SCHOOLS. 
          THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL HAVE CLOSED IN THE PAST YEAR OR MAKING REC SCHOOLS TO AFFORD A HEALTHIER CARROLLTON. I UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS TAKE TIME BUT IF CITY COUNCIL MATCHES EFFORT AND SPEED WITH WHICH THEY IMPLEMENTED FLOCK CAMERAS I HAVE NO DOUBT IT IS DOABLE. THE CITY GOVERNMENT SHOULD FOCUS MORE ON FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE ACTIONS OUTLINED IN CARROLLTON'S DESTINATION PRODUCT WHICH IS CARROLLTON'S VISION FOR WHAT WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS. FUNNILY ENOUGH THERE WAS AN ONLINE COMMUNITY FORUM OUTPUT FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          IN CONTRAST THERE WAS NO VOTE ON WHETHER FLOCK CAMERAS ACTUALLY MAKE CARROLLTON RESIDENTS FEEL SAFER. 
          MANY OTHER CARROLLTON RESIDENTS HAVE TOLD YOU SIMILARLY TONIGHT. I URGE YOU TO HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM AND VOTE NO TO THE EXPANSION OF FLOCK OR OTHER SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS FORMER MAYOR BECKY MILLER. NOT SPEAKING BUT IS IN SUPPORT. 
          MY NEXT SPEAKER IS FORMER MAYOR PRO TEM RUSTY PENDLETON. 
          >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. 
          RUSTY PENDLETON 2805-- CARROLLTON TEXAS. 
          FIRST OFF CHIEF, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR CARROLLTON. AND YOU TOOK MY THUNDER SO I WON'T BE TAKING A LOT OF TIME UP HERE. 
          I DO SUPPORT THE USE OF THE SYSTEM. 
          I LIVE IN AN HOA. WE PUT OUR OWN CAMERA SYSTEMS IN 15 YEARS AGO FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO CATCH CRIMINALS WHO USE OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD FOR THEFTS AND STUFF. WITH THAT INFORMATION, WE HAVE SHARED IT WITH THE POLICE WHEN THEY'VE ASKED FOR IT. 
          NOW THE CAMERAS DO-- ARE SUCCESSFUL. 
          STATI STATISTICS. 
          THAT IS A RESEARCH IN CARROLLTON'S 2023 ANNUAL REPORT. THEY RECORDED 204 HIT AND RUN CRASHES INVESTIGATED BY THE TRAFFIC UNIT. 
          OF THOSE, FLOCKS WERE AVAILABLE TO BE USED IN 89 OF THE SYSTEMS. 43 OF THOSE CASES WERE SOLVED. 
          THAT'S ALMOST A 60% SOLVE RATE. SO THEY DO WORK. 
          MR. MAYOR, YOU GAVE A SPEECH EARLIER THIS SUMMER. 
          WHICH YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SYSTEM. 
          AND HOW IT RESULTED IN THE RECOVERY OF 43 STOLEN 
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AUTOMOBILES. THE ARREST OF 76 OUTSTANDING WARRANTS AND THE AVAILABILITY TO FIND SIX MISSING PEOPLE. 
          THEY WORK. I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU WITH THIS. BUNCH OF WHAT IFS. 
          WHAT IF THE FLOCK SYSTEM WAS ABLE TO HELP FIND YOUR PARENT WHO GOT IN THE CAR WHO WAS DRIVING AROUND. 
          WHAT IF THE FLOCK SYSTEM WAS ABLE TO HELP ARREST THE DRIVER WHO HITS A PEDESTRIAN OR A CHILD. 
          WHAT IF THE FLOCK SYSTEM ASSISTED IN THE CAPTURE OF SOMEBODY WHO BURGLARIZED YOUR HOME. 
          AND THE BIG ONE. WHAT IF THE FLOCK SYSTEM HELPED IN THE CAPTURE AND RESCUE OF CHILD WHO WAS KIDNAPPED OFF OUR STR STREETS. 
          THINK OF THESE. THE SYSTEM WORKS. 
          I RECOMMEND THAT YOU VOTE YES FOR THIS. 
          THANK YOU. >> MY NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS PUR PURCELL. 
          NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THREE MINUTES. 
          >> THANK YOU MAYOR. LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU. 
          AND TO THANK MY NEIGHBOURS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          MY QUESTION IS SIMPLE. WHEN IS ENOUGH SURVEILLANCE ENOUGH? THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ONE MORE CRIME TO SOLVE. ONE MORE CRIMINAL. 
          ONE MORE CASE. WHAT'S THE LIMITING PRINCIPLE. 
          HOW MUCH PRIVACY AND LIBERTY AND SACRIFICE BEFORE WE'RE SATISFIED. I'M A SEAN YORE SOFTWARE ENGINEER. YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT FLOCK WILL KEEP OUR DATA SAFE BECAUSE NO COMPANY IS GOING SO TO SACRIFICE THEIR ESSENTIAL CASH COWS. 
          THESE COMPANIES ALL HAVE CLEVER WAYS OF FOOLING THE PUBLIC USING DISHONEST LANGUAGE. CONFUSING TERMS OF SERVICE AND AN UNREMITTING DEVOTION TO CREATING MORE SHAREHOLDER VALUE. I CAN GUARANTEE THAT FLOCK IS OR WILL CIRCUMVENT THEIR 30-DAY DATE OF DELETION PINKY PROMISE BY REPACKAGING THEIR DATA INTO PROPRIETARY DATA ANALYTICS THAT THEY WILL THEN SELL TO DATA BROKERS. 
          THAT ARE USED BY POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO EVADE FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK INTO THE FOG REVEAL PRODUCT. 
          THAT'S FOG REVEAL WHICH IS SOLD BY A DATA SCIENTIST COMPANY. 
          THIS PRODUCT USES LOCATION AWARE ADVERTISING DATA. 
          HARVESTED FROM OUR PHONES TO BUILD PROFILES ABOUT ALL OF US. 
          THIS DAY DID A THAT GETS SOLD AT A PROFIT TO ENTITIES SUCH AS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BUILD MAPS OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHAT WE LIKE TO BUY. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AI CIRCUMVENTS SECURITY GUARDRAILS. 
          WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN NOVEL UNPREDICTABLE AND HIGHLY UNSOPHISTICATED ATTACKS COMPROMISE THE IDENTITIES OF OUR CITIZENS. HOW CAN YOU STOP, FLOCK FOR MONETIZING THAT EVERYDAY LIVES THAT WE WANT TO ENJOY IN PEACE. 
          OVER TIME YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A BIGGER COST THAN JUST HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING ON THESE CAMERAS. 
          A SURVEILLANCE STATE HAS CHANGES A CALENDAR WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AMERICAN. WE LEARN THAT THE PUBLIC SPACE IS A PLACE TO TREAT A SUSPICION AND MISTRUST. 
          WE NO LONGER BECOME NEIGHBOURS TO EACH OTHER. 
          WE BECOME THE DANGER TO EACH OTHER. 
          AND IT'S THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE TO GROW UP LEARNING THAT THEY WILL INHERIT A WORLD BASED ON FEAR INSTEAD OF HOPE AND LIBERTY. I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE AGAINST THESE CAMERAS. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NEXT PART DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. BARBARA RAILY. 
          MY NEXT CARD IS FROM KYLE RUSSELL. 
          OH ALREADY DONE IT. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. 
          EXCUSE ME. BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. 
          ALL RIGHT MY NEXT CARD IS FROM CARRIE SILVERSMITH DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. 
          MY NEXT CARD IS FROM NICHOLAS SALAS? PLEASE. YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THE MIC THERE IF YOU WOULD PLEASE WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THE RECORD. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> HELLO MY NAME IS NICHOLAS SO LIZ I'M A CARROLLTON RESIDENT. 
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MY PURPOSE HERE TODAY IS TO SPEAK AGAINST FLOCK CAMERAS. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S UNJUST THAT THESE HAVE BEEN EVEN SET UP IN THE FIRST PLACE WITHOUT PUBLIC CONSENT. 
          AND AN OUTSIDE COMPANY HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO COME TO A COMMUNITY AND SET UP SURVEILLANCE DEVICES ALMOST OVERNIGHT AND WITH LITTLE TO NO OVERSIGHT ON SUCH A POWERFUL TOOL. 
          FURTHER MORE THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES NATIONWIDE OF THESE DEVICES BEING USED TO YOUR EVERYDAY CITIZEN. 
          I FIRMLY STAND AGAINST ITEM 13 TO THESE MASS SURVEILLANCE FLOCK DEVICES AND RENEW ANY CONTRACT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND I BELIEVE YOU THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF CARROLLTON SHOULD AS WELL. IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE YOURSES TO BE REPRESENTATIVES OF CARROLLTON CITIZENS. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT MY NEXT CARD IS FROM CHLOE SPITZER. 
          DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. 
          VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. MY NEXT CARD IS FROM JOSEPH SUTTON. WISHES TO SPEAK. 
          AND YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS JOSEPH SUTTON. 
          I AM A CARROLLTON RESIDENT. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX YEARS. 
          I LOVE CARROLLTON. I RAISED MY TWO DAUGHTERS HERE. 
          I ALSO DID NOT PLAN ON BEING HERE TONIGHT UNTIL YESTERDAY WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA. 
          HERE I STAND WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          BUT IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM CAN I STAND BY AND SUPPORT THE USE OF FLOCK IN OUR CITY. AS COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING BROUGHT UP, I DON'T THINK-- I QUESTION WHETHER IT IS A VIOLATION OF OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT. 
          I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE. AND I HOPE IT IS DEEMED AS SUCH. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS SYSTEM WORKS. ONE OF THE OFFICERS MENTIONED WHEN HE TALKS TO HIS NARCOTICS DEPARTMENT THEY SAY EVERY CASE USES FLOCK, OKAY. ARE WE SAYING NARCOTICS WAS UNABLE TO PERFORM INVESTIGATIONS BEFORE THE USE OF FLOCK? OR BEFORE THESE SYSTEMS WERE INSTALLED? I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY CAN'T BE KEPT SAFE WITHOUT FLOCK. 
          DO I THINK IT KEEPS IT SAFER? SURE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH IT. TO THE POINT WHERE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER I AM ATTENDING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER ON OUR NEXT ELECTION CYCLE FLTH CONTINUES, I WILL VOTE IN THE ELECTION IN THE LOCAL ELECTION TO VOTE AGAINST ANYONE WHO CONTINUES TO VOTE FOR FLOCK. 
          AND I'VE NEVER VOTED IN A LOCAL E ELECTION BEFORE. 
          BUT MOVING FORWARD, I WILL BE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          >> THANK YOU. NO-- LET'S HOLD THE APPLAUSE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE SOME AND NOT LIKE SOME. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON UNINTERRUPTED. HAROLD VINCENT? 
          >> MY NAME IS HAROLD VINCENT. I'M A CARROLLTON RESIDENT. 
          BEEN LIVING IN MY HOUSE FOR 38 YEARS. 
          I LIKE CARROLLTON A LOT. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS. RHETORICAL QUESTION WITH 82 CAMERAS, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF CARROLLTON CITY THAT'S BEING VIEWED BY THOSE CAMERAS? PROBABLY NOT THAT MUCH. 
          WITH 30 DAYS TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT GOES AWAY, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT ANYONE, POLICE OFFICER, ANYBODY IS GOING TO LOOK AT YOU INDIVIDUALLY? I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE. 
          FROM MY STANDPOINT I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF-- I HAVE HAD ZERO INTERACTIONS WITH THE CARROLLTON PD EITHER BECAUSE OF FLOCK CAMERAS OR BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ELSE I'VE DONE. 
          SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE YES FOR IT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. MY NEXT PART IS FROM LEAH WORKHEISER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. 
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MY NEXT CARD RUSSELL WIDENER. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN SUPPORT. MY NEXT CARD IS MICHELLE WIGGINGTON. AND IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE 
          THREE MINUTES. >> YES MY NAME IS MICHELLE WIGGINGTON. I LIVE IN NO TOWN DALLAS COUNTY UNINCORPORATED AREA FOP LEAVE MY HOUSE IT'S A ONE IN-- DEAD END STREET. ONE WAY OUT BLOCK CAMERA AT THE END. ANYWHERE I GO I'M ON A FLOCK CAMERA. WHEN I COME TO YOUR TOWN I'M ALSO IN A FLOCK CAMERA. A LOT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT THE VICTIMS AND GETTING CRIMINALS OFF THE STREETS. 
          THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE NOT ALL CRIMINALS. 
          WE'RE THE PUBLICS. THE TREATMENT OF THE GENERAL POPULATION OF CRIMINALS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD BUT ESPECIALLY FOR ME I'VE ALREADY BEEN VICTIMIZED BY THE DALLAS COUNTY ROAD POLICE FORCE THAT I WAS THERE TO SPEAK ABOUT. 
          THEY ARE TECHNICALLY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO ACCORDING TO THE PRESENTATION WE WATCH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT AND GET INFORMATION. THERE'S NO WAY FOR CARROLLTON TO ENSURE THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE FOLLOWING THE SAME SEEMINGLY PROFESSIONAL AND AT LEAST ATTEMPTING TO PROTECT THE CIVIL LIBERTIES OF THE PUBLIC. 
          THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. 
          OVER WHAT FLOCK DOES WITH THEIR DATA. 
          THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OF WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ENTER INTO THAT DATA. SEARCH OR RECRUIT THEM IN. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN CASES WHERE PEOPLE'S LICENSE PLATES HAVE BEEN ENTERED INCORRECTLY AND THEY GET PULLED OVER EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY LEAVE THEIR HOMES. 
          AND THERE IS NO SOLUTION YET. THEY JUST HAVE TO KEEP HOPING AND PRAYING NEXT TIME THEY GET PULLED OVER THEY DON'T END UP DEAD. PLEASE VOTE NO. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NEXT CARD. 
          DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION. 
          AND MY LAST CARD IS FROM ALEXANDER FINCHER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN SUPPORT. OKAY COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS TO SPEAK. WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ITEM 13. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE. 
          I WANT TO FIRST OFF THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND SPEAKING. YOU ALL SPOKE FROM YOUR HEART. 
          YOU SPOKE WITH DATA IN MANY CASES. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING AND SHARING YOUR OPINIONS OF COUNCIL. I WILL ALSO TELL YOU AS IS OFTEN THE CASE, YOU ASKED TWO PEOPLE IF YOU ARE LIBEL TO HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OPINION. BOTH FROM THE HEART SO AS THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS BASED ON YOUR QUESTIONS AND DELIBERATE. JUST REMINDER THAT WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR CARROLLTON. 
          TO FULFILL THE VISION OF CARROLLTON. 
          TO FULFILL THE MISSION OF CARROLLTON. 
          JUST AS YOU ARE HERE TO DOING THE SAME THING TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS TO TRY TO INFLUENCE THEIR VOTE. 
          SO WITH THAT, COUNCIL? MY FIRST SPEAKER IS 
          COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. >> YES, SIR MR. MAYOR. 
          IT'S A NICE-- TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS BIGGER THAN JUST CAMERAS. IT'S ABOUT THE DETERMINING THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. IT'S ABOUT DECIDING HOW MUCH SURVEILLANCE GOVERNMENT SHOULD CONDUCT ON ITS CITIZENS AND WHETHER THE LEVEL OF SURVEILLANCE IS NECESSARY. 
          IF OUR RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO ACCEPT FLOCK'S SURVEILLANCE NETWORK OPERATING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT THAT THE TAX PAYERS OF CARROLLTON SHOULD HAVE A DIRECT VOICE IN THAT DECISION. 
          IF THIS TECHNOLOGY IS AS VALUABLE AND BROADLY SUPPORTED AS SOME CLAIM, THEN WHY SHOULDN'T CITIZENS OF CARROLLTON DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHETHER THEY WANT IT OPERATING IN THEIR COMMUNITY. PERSONALLY I'M OKAY WITH FLOCK CAMERAS IN THE ENTRYWAYS AND EXITWAYS OF THE CITY OF CARROLLTON BUT I HAVE CONCERNS IN THE INTERIOR PART OF CARROLLTON. FOR ALL THOSE REASONS I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13. 
          BUT LET ME JUST SAY I SUPPORT GIVING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT EFFECTIVE TOOLS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS BIGGER THAN CAMERAS. THIS IS ABOUT WHO DECIDES HOW MUCH SURVEILLANCE WE ALL SHOULD HAVE. 
          AND I WOULD SUPPORT ALLOWING THE VOTERS OF CARROLLTON TO VOTE ON THIS. IF THEY WANT FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEMS IN THE CITY. TAKE IT TO THE VOTE. 
          SIMPLE AS THAT. YOU THE TAX PAYERS ARE BIGGER 
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THAN THE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE ARE NOT INVOLVED SO YOU ALL HAVE A VOICE. SO I'M OPEN TO TAKING IT TO THE VOTEERS AND LET EVERYBODY HAVE A VOTE JUST LIKE WE DO THE BOND PACKAGE. SO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM OF $1 MILLION BUT YOU HAVE TAX PAYER DOLLAR DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON THIS. 
          AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A VOTE. AND THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE CIVIL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE. 
          THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF FOR COMING OUT AND GIVING THUS GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER. >> WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT WAS HERE THAT SPOKE OR PUT IN A CARD TO GIVE THEIR OPINION AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK THE OFFICERS OF OUR CITY AND ALL DOW FOR ALL OF US. TONIGHT I HEARD A LOT ABOUT OUR THIRD PARTY VENDORS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO SAY WE GIVE THIRD PARTY VENDORS MORE RIGHTS TO EVERYTHING ABOUT US. 
          BUT WE WANT TO DRAW THE LINE ON SAFETY PROVIDED TO OUR CITY BY DEDICATED OFFICERS THROUGH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND I WANT TO GIVE SOME EXAMPLES. 
          POLL ROAD READERS TAKE OUR PLATES EVERY TIME WE DRIVE DOWN A TOLL ROAD. AND THEY TAKE OUR MONEY AND YOUR CREDIT CARD IS ATTACHED TO THE ACCOUNT AND PROBABLY YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER AND WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. GOOGLE MAPS. 
          FACEBOOK, APPLE WATCH. MOST OF THE APPS ON YOUR IPHONES. ALEXA, SIRI, HGTV KNOWS WHAT I'M DOING. IT POPS UP SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS I'M LIKE HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? EVERYTHING IS ON A CLOUD SO NOW I'LL GO TO THINGS IN THE CLOUD. 
          EVERYTHING IS IN A CLOUD. YOUR CREDIT CARDS IS IN THE CLOUD. BANKS ARE IN THE CLOUD. 
          401KS. BROKER ACCOUNTS. 
          HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL DATA ARE IN THE CLOUD. 
          BUT THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS BUT THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS FOOLPROOF. 
          HOW MANY CYBER ATTACK LETTERS DO YOU GET EVERY YEAR. 
          TELLING US THAT OUR DATA HAS BEEN LINKED. 
          SOCIAL SECURITY LINKED AND ADDRESSES. 
          NOTHING IS FOOLPROOF. WE HAVE 139 CITIZENS WE REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY AND THE MOST VULNERABLE WE REPRESENT AND IT COMES DOWN TO PROTECTING THEM FROM CRIME, MISSING PEOPLE. TRAFFICKING. 
          AM BETTER ALERTS. SILVER ALERTS. 
          STOLEN CARS. BURGLARIES. 
          MURDERS. TERRORIST ATTACKS. 
          KIDNAPPING AND MORE. WHEN THE BOSTON BOMBING HAPPENED IN 2013 IT WAS FACE RECOGNITION. 
          GREAT TECHNOLOGY THAT CAUGHT THE GUYS THAT BOMBED ALL THOSE PEOPLE RUNNING A MARATHON AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY BACK THEN SAYING OH MY GOD THEY USED FACE RECOGNITION. 
          HOW HORRIBLE, THEY VIOLATED OUR RIGHTS. 
          WE WANT TO STOP TECHNOLOGY USE FOR CRIME FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMODITY. OUR FAMILIES AND PROPERTY. 
          BASED ON PROVIDING STATISTICS OF CRIME IN CARROLLTON THAT HAS BEEN REDUCED AND SOLD AT A FASTER RATE WHILE USING FLOCK TECHNOLOGY. IN CLOSING THEY USE STATEMENTS FROM BEFORE. CARROLLTON HAS STRONG SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE AND A STRONG DISCIPLINE POLICY FOR ANY ABUSE. POLICE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS OR ASKING FOR A BUDGET INCREASE. 
          IS HOW CAN I RESPONSIBLY TURN DOWN THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY TO STOP AND SOLVE CRIME IN OUR CITY TO BE USED AS A DETERRENT AGAINST CRIME. SO I WILL BE VOTING FOR THE 
          CONTRACT TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. 
          CHLOE DO YOU MIND PUTTING UP THE FLOCK TRANSPARENTY PAGE. 
          I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. 
          AS WE REFLECT ON MANY OF THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RAISED TONIGHT. SOME OF THOSE WE HEARD OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS. SOME ARE THE FIRST TIME HEARING THEM TONIGHT. MANY HAVE ANSWERED PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED. AS I LOOK AT THIS FLOCK TRANSPARENCY PAGE. 1574 ALERTS. 
          PROTECTIVE WARRANT OR SEX OFFENDER LIST. 
          STOLEN PLATES OR CARS. >> THAT'S A 30 STAY SNAPSHOT. 
          IN A CITY WITH 40,000 PEOPLE THAT'S A LOT OF BAD PEOPLE 
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RIDING DOWN OUR ROADS AND OUR UP IN ONE RESPONSIBILITY AS CITY COUNCIL IS KEEP THE CITY SAFE SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO KEEP THE TRANSPARENCY IN FRONT OF YOU AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS AND COUNCIL AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING YOUR VOTES SM I'LL HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS HERE. 
          COUNCILMEMBER AX BERG. >> I WOULD ASK LIKE TO ECHO HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS OF CARROLLTON COMING TO THIS OPEN MEETING TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR EVENING TO COME LISTEN TO THE CITY OUR OFFICERS EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS, HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE CITY. HEARING FROM EACH OTHER, ABOUT WHAT CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE FACING WHAT WE AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE I'M SO PROUD. NOT ONLY TO BE REPRESENTED AND INVOLVED WITH THE CITY WHERE WE CAN BE ABLE TO COME SPEAK OUR MINDS AND BE ABLE TO DO IT FROM A PLACE OF PROTECTING OURSELVES EACH OTHER THIS COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY EXPRESSING THE LOVE FOR THE CITY I GREW UP IN AND ALL OF US LIVE IN SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO THANK CHIEF ARIDONDO AND OUR OFFICERS SENIOR STAFF LEADERSHIP. THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE TODAY WAS VERY, VERY ENLIGHTENING. THE RESPONSIBILITY IS, IMMENSE. 
          THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE, THAT WE ARE UTILIZING TODAY IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT TOMORROW. AND IT IS AN AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY. BUT I THINK ALL YOU RECOGNIZE THE CHIEF ON DOWN AND THE CONCERNS THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS WITH YOU TAKING ON THAT AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK IT'S FAIR FOR OUR PEOPLE TO ASK, ESPECIALLY IN THIS OPEN FORUM WHAT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE IS VOTING ON, AND WHY. 
          AND I'M GOING TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS CONTRACT, AGGREGATION. 
          I'M NOT VOTING TO EXPAND IT OR PUT MORE MONEY IN IT BUT I'M VOTE FOR THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE CONTRACTS. 
          I'M CONVINCED THROUGH WHAT I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING THAT THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF CARROLLTON'S POLICE DEPARTMENT STARTING WITH OUR CHIEF ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR OFFICERS IS ENOUGH FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROGRAM. 
          THE CHIEF PUT HIMSELF OUT THERE, AND SAID, NOT ONLY IS HE ACCOUNTABLE BUT HE TAKES A PERSONAL SAFETY OF THIS CITY, AND I BELIEVE HIM. I ALSO EQUALLY THINK THAT THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY THAT SITS IN FRONT OF YOU ON THIS DAIS. 
          WE COLLECTIVELY, THIS COUNCIL ARE ALSO ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOLDING THE CHEEFD AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR SENIOR STAFF ACCOUNTABLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES THAT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WE ALL SWORE TO UP HOLD ARE FOLLOWED. AND ARE TRANSPARENT TO US AND THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD OUR CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE IS FOR THEM TO BE TRANSPARENT. 
          AND THE BIG RESPONSIBILITY OF OURS COLLECTIVELY WILL BE ABLE TO INSURE THAT TRANSPARENCY. IF FOR ANY REASON THAT TRANSPARENCY OR THAT TRUST IS BROKEN IT WILL BE ON US TO BE ABLE TO HOLD OUR CITY ACCOUNTABLE. 
          AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU. 
          WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITIZENS OF CARROLLTON AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO THROUGH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT IS GIVEN TO US, THAT WE ARE HOLDING THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE BUT ALSO THAT WE ARE ALSO KEEPING YOUR TRUST, SO I WOULD ASK THE CITIZENS JUST LIKE YOU HAVE THIS EVENING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE TO INSURE THAT OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES, AS WELL AS OUR RIGHTS AND OUR PRIVACY CONTINUE BE B TO BE PROTECTED. THIS IS THE REASON I'LL BE VOTING FOR ITEM NUMBER 13. I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHICH DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE ARE VOTING ON IT STRAIGHTAWAY. 
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THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE THEIR OPINIONS AND TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THE REASONS BEHIND THIRD VOTE BUT MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NEGOTIATION BE ABLE TO APPROVE 
          ITEM NUMBER 13. >> COUNCILMEMBER KLEIN. 
          >> MAYOR, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION BUT I HAD SOME COMMENTS 
          TO MAKE. >> THAT'S FINE SO COUNCIL I HAVE A MOTION BE COUNCILMEMBER AX BERG AND SECOND BY KLEIN WHO APPROVE ITEM 13 FOR THE CO CONTT AGGREGATION. 
          >> THANKS FOR COMING OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. 
          I SPEND TIME TO KEEP UP WITH OUR RAPIDLY CHANGING WORLD WE LIVE IN WITH CHAT GPT AND ROBOTS AND HAVING THAT'S CHANGING OUR LIVES AND THE ADOPTION AND FRAUD THAT CAN OCCUR FROM THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER LISTED THAT WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO, AND I FEEL LIKE COMMUNICATION HAS IMPROVED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS TRANSPARENCY PAGE, MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER, I FEEL LIKE TRUST IS A CHALLENGE IN THIS NEW CHANGING WORLD, BUT I TRUST OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I APPRECIATE HEARING YOU ALL SAY THE SAY THING BUT WE NEED TO TRUST THEM HARNESS THEM AND ABLE TO FIGHT AS CHIEF HAS SAID. 
          WHEN RUNNING FOR COUNCIL SAFETY WAS MY PRIORITY, I PARTICIPATED IN POLICE ACADEMY AND SEVERAL OF Y'ALL HAVE AND APPRECIATED THE BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT GOES ON. THAT WAS BEFORE WE STARTED USING FLOCK CAMERAS AND TO ME THE CAMERAS ARE A DETERRENT IN JENNI WHERE. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INCIDENTS SINCE I'VE LIVED IN CARROLLTON WITH WHEELS BEING STOLEN YOU KNOW OUR HOUSE BROKEN INTO CARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEING ROBBED AND HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND I CONTINUE WANT TO BECOME THE HOLE IN THE DONUT THAT THE CHIEF DISCUSSED. 
          I DON'T WANT TO BE A CRIME MAGNET IN THE REGION. 
          I DO NOT WANT TO HAPPEN STRING OUR POLICE AS COUNCILMEMBER SUTTER MENTIONED THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE IN CAMERAS, DO I NOT BELIEVE 82 IS A SURVEILLANCE STATE FOR CARROLLTON. 
          I FEEL LIKE IT'S BASICALLY AT THE ENTRIES TO OUR COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES LIKE ROSEMEAD OR MCGINNIS WHERE HIGH CRIME HAS OCCURRED AND I EXPECT THE POLICE TO CONTINUE THAT PRACTICE. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD STAFF ACCOUNTABLE AND WE HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, IT IS ULTIMATELY THE SAME MANAGER AND THE POLICE CHIEF'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY WE KEEP MENTIONING WE ARE THESI SENSE ELECTED TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS BUT NOT SERVE IN THAT ROLE AND ALSO CITY ATTORNEY TO KEEP US FROM GETTING IN TROUBLE WITH DOING ANYTHING ILLEGALLY. SO WITH THAT I'M DONE, MAYOR. 
          >> CHLOE DO YOU MIND PUTTING UP THE MAPS THAT CHIEF ALLUDED TO, THAT WOULD HAVE THAT, WOULD BE A HOLE IN THE METROPLEX? AS SHE'S PULLING THAT UP LET ME POINT OUT THE POPULATION OF THE METROPLEX IS 8 MILLION PEOPLE. IT'S GROWING TO 15 TO IDENTIFY 20 MILLION IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND THAT DONUT HOLE THAT IF CARROLLTON WERE TO OPT OUT OF RENEWING THIS CONTRACT, WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE A VOID WITH RESPECT TO BE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          IT WOULD BE A -- AND GIVEN THE NUMBER OF THOROUGHFARES THAT WE HAVE COMING THROUGH OUR CITY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ARE A LOT OF POOL WHO PASS THROUGH CARROLLTON A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE HERE A LOT OF BAD ACTORS WE PUT UP ON THE TRAINS SPAIRN PAGE THAT CONTINUE CRIMES EVIDENCE DAY AND SOMETIMES THE FLOCK HAVE CAUGHT CRIMES THAT OCCURRED IN CARROLLTON THAT THAT DO NOT LIVE IN CARROLLTON THAT ARE ELSEWHERE SO BACK TO THE CHIEF AND COMMAND STAFF'S COMMENTS LET'S KIND OF KEEP THIS IN PERSPECTIVE OF THIS FLOCK PROGRAM. 
          LET ME ALSO MAKE A CONCEPT ABOUT THE ACCUSEDTY. 
          THERE'S BEEN A ROT OF DISCUSSION ON CONSTITUTIONALITY AND I'M NOT A LAWYER. MOST OF YOU ARE NOT LAWYERS. 
          SOME OF YOU ARE EXPERTS ON CYBER, I GET THAT BUT WE ALSO EVERYONE UP HERE TAKES THE OATH. EVERYONE UP HERE ALL THOSE MEN 
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AND WOMEN IN BLUE OUR CITY STAFF ALL TAKE THE OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND AND PRESERVE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. SO JUST BECAUSE AND WE BY THE WAY HAVE DONE OUR OWN RESEARCH. WE HAVE DONE OUR REVIEW OF CASE LAW, AND THAT GIVES US THE INSURANCE THAT THIS CONTRACT AS IT STANDS TODAY IS CONSTITUTIONAL. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE, THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS. 
          PUT YOUR HAND UP. IF YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE, ALL THESE CITIES ARE GOING TO GO WITH WHAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL TODAY. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THINGS WON'T CHANGE TOMORROW, A YEAR FROM NOW AND PRIVACY CONCERNS AT THE NATIONAL OR STATE LEVEL WON'T CHANGES AND THIENGS WON'T BECOME UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN WHICH CASE WE WILL PULL THOSE DOWN, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CONSTITUTIONAL BUT ALL THESE CITIES UP THERE RIGHT NOW BELIEVE THIS TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL, AS DO WE IN CARROLLTON, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL FOLLOWING THAT OUR NEXT SPEAKER 
          IS COUNCILMEMBER ROWENA WATERS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF FEED BACK FROM RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY IN PERSON, BY EMAIL, BY TEXT, VOICEMAIL, AND EVERY FEED BACK THAT WE GET WE HAD VALUE. 
          YOU'VE KEPT US ON OUR TOES AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR TO US SEE WHAT'S GOOD FOR CARROLLTON. WE HAVE HEARD THE SENTIMENTS AND UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME LEGITIMATE FEARS AND WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM OUR PLEECHD AND HE'S GIVEN US HIS INSURANCE. 
          OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN US GREAT RESULTS AND WE ARE A SAFETY WE ARE SAFER LIKE THEY SAY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AND I THINK THEY HAVE EARNED OUR TRUST SO GIVEN THAT ALL THOSE FEARS I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE CARROLLTON. 
          A LOT OF THE INCIDENCE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE MENTIONED ARE SOMETIMES DONE IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN EXPANSION OF THAT FEAR BECAUSE OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS GATHERED, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE ARE CARROLLTON AND WE ARE NEIGHBORS AND WE ARE A COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE THAT WHERE HAVE THE VOTE GOES TONIGHT WE SHOULD CONTINUE, YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO KEEP US ON OUR TOES AND WE ARE YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS ELECTED OR STAFF SO WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE BY DOING THINGS TOGETHER. 
          BE INVOLVED WITH OUR POLICE AS WELL. 
          THEY HAVE BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THERE'S THE POLICE ACADEMY GOVERNMENT ACADEMY. 
          LEARN HOW THEY FUNCTION. KEEP US ON OUR TOES AND LEARN HOW IT'S DONE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE BEST INTENTIONS AND WE ALL CARE FOR CARROLLTON AND WE ALL CARE FOR EACH OTHER. 
          SO REGARDLESS OF HOW THE VOTE GOES, BEAR IN MIND THAT WE ARE WE ALL NEED, WE ALL WANT THE BEST FOR WHAT'S HERE NOW AND FOR THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. 
          >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND PARTICIPATING IN GOVERNMENT. THIS IS ONE OF THE AWESOME THINGS THAT I THINK AS I SIT HERE AS A COUNCILMEMBER IS TO SEE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TO SPEAK TO US AND TO SHARE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT WHAT WANT TO SEE THE CITY DO. 
          I HEARD ONE PERSON SAY THAT THEY PLAN TO VOTE NEXT TIME, AND MY GOODNESS, IF I CAN GET ONE MORE PERSON TO VOTES, THEN EVEN IF WE DISAGREE, THEN I HAVE SUCCEEDED BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY, WE ARE WHO WE ARE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO FREELY VOTE AND WHEN WE IGNORE OUR WILLINGNESS TO GO AND VOTE THEN THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO COME OUT AND VOTE THE NEXT TIME, EVEN IF WE DO NOT AGREE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE COURTS AND THE LEGISLATURE ARE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE THIS UP, AND TO DECIDE ULTIMATELY WHETHER THIS IS A VIOLATION OF OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT. 
          CURRENTLY THE COURTS HAVE SAID IT IS NOT AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS PROGRESSING AND THAT MIGHT CHANGE, AND WHEN IT DOES, WE OF COURSE WOULD REACT TO THAT. 
          IN THE MEANTIME I BELIEVE THAT IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCILMEMBER IN CARROLLTON TO GIVE MY POLICE DEPARTMENT THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED THAT ARE LEGAL AND THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL TODAY ABOUT USING A SYSTEM LIKE ALPR'S AND I 
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UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ARE PLENTY OF CONCERNS ABOUT DATA. 
          THAT'S MY WORLD. THAT'S WHAT I LIVE IN DAY IN AND DAY OUT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF GIVING OUR POLICE THE TOOLS THAT THEY ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO HAVE. 
          AND SO I WILL BE VOTING YES FOR THIS AND I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE COURTS AND THE LEGISLATURES WORK THIS OUT. I CAN'T DO THAT IN MY POSITION ON CITY COUNCIL. ALL I CAN DO IS VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THIS CONTRACT AND BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EXPANDING ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE JUST CO-TERMING THIS I'M GOING TO 
          VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. >> MADEIRA PRO TEM. 
          >> THANK YOU MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I HAD TO WRITE MINE DOWN BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE AT LOSS FOR WORDS BUT I KNOW THIS TOPIC STIRS A LOT OF STRONG FEELINGS AS IT SHOULD. 
          R. YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT. 
          FOR ME AS A COUNCILMEMBER WHEN I RAN FOR ELECTION ONE OF MY STRONG POINTS AND THE THINGS I SAID I WOULD BE STAND ON IS PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, SOMEONE ASKS THE QUESTION DUCKS THE BENEFIT OUT WEIGH THE RISK AND IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW IT'S THE WELL BEING OF EVERY FAMILY IN THIS ROOM THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          NOT JUST YOU GUYS. ALSO SOME OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS. ALL THE COUNCIL UP HERE, WE ALL LIVE IN CARROLLTON TOO. I JUST WANT TO SAY, THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY. 
          FIRST, THESE CAMERAS SOLVE REAL CRIMES AND PROTECT REAL PEOPLE. 
          THEY'RE NOT STATISTICS. WHEN A CHILD IS ABDUCTED AND AMBER ALERT GOES OUT, SECONDS MATTER. 
          AND THOSE CAMERAS ARE THERE. WHEN AN ELDERLY RESIDENT WITH DEAD MENSAH WANDERS OFF IN THEIR CAR MINUTES CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AUTOMATE LICENSE READERS HAVE HAD PEOPLE HELPED RECOVER VEHICLES AND THE LIST GOES ON. 
          THESE ARE REAL INCIDENTS AND THESE INCIDENTS WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE HAVE GONE COLD SO SOMEONE ASKED THE QUESTION IS THE CRIME RATE DIRECTLY CORRELATED COULD THEY STILL SOLVE THESE CRIMES WITHOUT THOSE TOOLS. 
          WELL, AS ONE OF THE PRESENTATION SLIDES SHOWED THESE CAMERAS WERE IMPLEMENTED IN 2019. SINCE THEN, THE CRIME RATE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY GONE DOWN YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT CORRELATION TO THE THE USE OF THIS TOOL FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO SOLVE THESE CRIMES. 
          SECOND THIS, IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER AS CHIEF MENTIONED. 
          OUR DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE STRETCHED THIN. 
          WE ARE STILL PEOPLE. MOST OF OUR OFFICERS MIGHT BY OVERWORKED AND WE CANNOT STATION A PATROL CAR AT EVERY SINGLE CORNER. BUT, A CAMERA DOESN'T GET TIRED. 
          A CAMERA CAN READ THAT LICENSE PLATE AT 3 A.M. JUST LIKE IT CAN AT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. IT LETS OUR LIMITED NUMBER OF OFFICERS FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION WHERE A GENUINE LEAD EXISTS INSTEAD OF CHASING DEAD ENDS. THIRD THIS MATTERS DEEPLY TO ME. 
          THIS TECHNOLOGY READS PLATES AND IT DOESN'T READ FACES AND THERE'S NO FACIAL RECOGNITION IN A LICENSE PLATE READER. 
          IT DOESN'T NODE YOUR NAME YOUR RELATED JUN YOUR SKIN COLOR. 
          IT LOGS A LICENSE PLATE A PUBLIC IDENTIFIER THAT IS ALREADY VISIBLE TO ANYONE ON THE ROAD THAT IS BEHIND YOU IN TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT CUT YOU OFF IN TRAFFIC, AND IT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY LAW FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT LICENSE PLATE. 
          A CAMERA CANNOT PROFILE SOMEONE THE WAY HUMAN JUDGMENT CAN. 
          ON IFS ARE DRIVEN BY EVIDENCE RATHERED THAN HUTCHISON THAT PROTECTS THE GUILTY AND INAS WELL THE INSENT. 
          WE CAN BUILD GUARDRAILS AND DATA CAN BE DELETED AFTER A SHORT RETENTION WINDOW ACCESS CAN BE LOGGED, IT'S AUDITED AND IS RESTRICTED TO LEGITIMATE INVESTIGATIONS. 
          POLICIES CAN PROHIBIT USE, FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, AS THE PRESENTATION SHOWED. FOR TRACKING LAWFUL PROTEST, OR 
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FOR ANY PURPOSE THE COMMUNITY DECIDES IS OFF LIMITS. 
          OVERSIGHT IS NOT HOW WE USE THIS ACKNOWLEDGE. 
          IT'S HOW WE DEPLOY IT RESPONSIBILITY. 
          WE GET TO WRITE THOSE REELSES RULES AND WE ARE COUNTING ON OUR POLICE CHIEF THE HEAD OF OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THAT OVERSIGHT AND TO MAKE SURE THOSE RULES ARE FOLLOWED. 
          I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU NO TOOL IS FOOLPROOF. 
          IT'S NO SILVER BULLET. IT'S NOT FREE OF RISK. 
          THE ANSWER TO THAT RICK IS NOT TO LEAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT MODERN TOOLS WHILE CRIME EVOLVES AND THE ANSWER IS VILLAGE LANCE, TRANSSPAIRN REPORTS, CLEAR POLICIES, REELED ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE WILLINGNESS TO PULL BACK IF WE GET IT WRONG. WE ASK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO KEEP US SAFE, WE ASK A LOT OF THEM, LET'S GIVE THEM A TOOL THAT WORKS AND LET'S GOVERN WITNESS THE SERIOUSNESS IT DESERVES. 
          I ASK FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING IN MY VIEWPOINT AND MY PERSPECTIVE TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT, PRIVACY IS NOT A GIVE AND TAKE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. OUR PRIVACY MATTERS TOO, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE LICENSE PLATE READER STEPS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOLLOW ME AS WELL. IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SEE THAT I GO DOWN JOSIE LANE FIVE OR SIX TIMES A DAY THEY CAN DO THAT. 
          BUT IF MY CAR IS STOLEN, I WANT THEM NO KNOW THAT MY CAR WENT DOWN JOSIE LANE THAT LAST TIME, SPEEDING AND PAST A RED LIGHT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. AND I HAD WOULD LIKE MY CAR TO BE RECOVERED AND I'M COUNTING ON OUR POLICE FORCE TO BE ABLE TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE TOOLS IN PLACE. 
          WE CAN'T SAY WE SUPPORT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE WANT TO GIVE THEM ALL THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED DO THEIR JOBS AND THEN NOT VOTE FOR THIS. SO, FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF RENEWING OR EXTENDING THE CONSOLIDATION OF THIS CONTRACT. FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. 
          COUNCIL I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND I WILL CALL THE VOTE. 
          AS THE VOTES ARE COMING IN I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE AND SHOWING UP. 
          WE HOPE YOU WILL STAY ENGAGED IN ALL CITY MATTERS, VOLUNTEER, CHIEF, TO YOU AND YOUR COMMAND STAFF THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW THAT HOPEFULLY YOU FEEL THE SUPPORT REGARDLESS OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS, RIGHT? I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE SUPPORT OF 100 PERCENT OF THIS ROOM AND A HUNDRED PER CENT OF THIS D AD IS YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COUNCILMEMBER WATERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CAST YOUR VOTE. 
          WITH THAT, THE MOTION PASSES WITH COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING IN OPPOSITION. THE CON TRACK WILL BE RENEWED. 
          WITH THAT, THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST OFF CONGRATULATIONS AND WOID LIKE EVERYONE IN SUPPORT OF OUR POLICE TO GIVEAWAY THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THEIR WORK. 
          THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. TAKES US TO OUR PUBLIC FORUM. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS TO SPEAK ON THE PUMP FORUM F. ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON 50 MATTER NOT ON THE AGENDA YOU HAD MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM NOW. FACING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND
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